| [00:05] <silverarrow> bkm, I haven`t tried chromium | |
| [00:06] <silverarrow> I`m on the ppc iso where Firefox is default browser | |
| [00:06] <bkm> interesting! | |
| [00:07] <silverarrow> bkm, does the flash bundle alternative work fine with chromium | |
| [00:07] <bkm> no | |
| [00:07] <bkm> not for me | |
| [00:07] <silverarrow> pepper api or something like that | |
| [00:07] <silverarrow> I hope they keep working on that | |
| [00:07] <silverarrow> it is too new to run smooth on all setups I suppose | |
| [00:08] <bkm> haven't figured out how to make it work, so i'm not one to ask. everything seems to blow up (or consume all of the limited resources) as far as i can tell | |
| [00:09] <silverarrow> I keep getting conflicting info about the papi, they have already abandoned it, or they are still working on it | |
| [00:09] <silverarrow> bkm, what kind of computer do you have? | |
| [00:10] <bkm> 900 mhz; 512 ram pc | |
| [00:10] <silverarrow> which is not too bad | |
| [00:11] <silverarrow> however flash is the most difficult thing on low specs | |
| [00:11] <bkm> seems to be | |
| [00:11] <silverarrow> trick is to find workarounds | |
| [00:11] <silverarrow> and run one application at a time when streaming any video | |
| [00:12] <silverarrow> have you found anything that works? | |
| [00:12] <bkm> i followed a hack of placing the adobe version in place of the whatever version, and that hack worked for a long time | |
| [00:13] <bkm> now it does not seem to. something has changed | |
| [00:13] <silverarrow> if it streamed smoothly it should though | |
| [00:14] <silverarrow> adobe hardly streams smooth with less than 1.5GHz | |
| [00:14] <silverarrow> it does depend a bit upon the cpu though | |
| [00:14] <bkm> a weird problem is that worldcat.org tries to tell me what libraries hold a certain book, but with chromium, the libraries never show up. i'm not sure why | |
| [00:15] <bkm> later chrome versions work as does firefox | |
| [00:15] <bkm> i'm not sure what is happening on that website | |
| [00:17] <silverarrow> anything I can test+ | |
| [00:18] <silverarrow> ? | |
| [00:18] <silverarrow> I`m not registered thre | |
| [02:08] <silverarrow> hi | |
| [02:08] <silverarrow> I am troubleshooting totem and mplayer plugins | |
| [03:03] <kanliot> sup | |
| [03:17] <Orrin_Fox> hey there | |
| [03:17] <tony_> hello | |
| [03:19] <bioterror> morning | |
| [03:20] <Orrin_Fox> I was wondering if i could have some advice on how well lubuntu would work on my desktop, I love ubuntu but.. well it doesnt work well on my desktop | |
| [03:21] <tony_> what's wrong with ubuntu? | |
| [03:22] <Orrin_Fox> Ubuntu standard appears to lag upon entering the desktop (KDE) | |
| [03:22] <Orrin_Fox> I tried Gnome, almost similar | |
| [03:23] <Orrin_Fox> I happened to hear around the corner that lubuntu could handle the lighter-capable computers | |
| [03:24] <tony_> lubuntu is a lot faster | |
| [03:25] <Orrin_Fox> how well would you say it could respond on 256MB ram? | |
| [03:26] <kanliot> nearly as well as windows xp | |
| [03:26] <tony_> the minimum RAM to install Lubuntu is 256 MB | |
| [03:26] <kanliot> which is good | |
| [03:26] <Orrin_Fox> cool | |
| [03:26] <Orrin_Fox> yeah windows XP was on this previously | |
| [03:26] <kanliot> just don't open 5 tabs in chromium | |
| [03:26] <kanliot> it will be slow | |
| [03:26] <Orrin_Fox> lol yeah | |
| [03:26] <kanliot> try firefox or xxxterm | |
| [03:27] <kanliot> if you get it intstalled | |
| [03:27] <kanliot> please post your results | |
| [03:27] <kanliot> we like to hear positive stuff | |
| [03:27] <Orrin_Fox> oh yeah, so far ubuntu hasnt really given me any problems | |
| [03:28] <kanliot> i'm testing 12.10 | |
| [03:28] <kanliot> not there yet :) | |
| [03:29] <Orrin_Fox> ah thats cool | |
| [03:29] <kanliot> actually | |
| [03:29] <kanliot> if you are lazy | |
| [03:29] <kanliot> you can just install lubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu | |
| [03:29] <kanliot> and i think you are | |
| [03:30] <Orrin_Fox> well, i would overall just get an iso and throw it on the drive | |
| [03:31] <kanliot> you wouldn't even have to reboot | |
| [03:31] <tony_> it would be a lot faster to do it like he said | |
| [03:31] <kanliot> to use lubuntu | |
| [03:31] <kanliot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu | |
| [03:31] <Orrin_Fox> but, if ubuntu wont even fully start up.. i would be able to work lubuntu onto it? | |
| [03:32] <kanliot> uh | |
| [03:32] <kanliot> please be specific about yer problem | |
| [03:32] <kanliot> i can't guess | |
| [03:32] <tony_> once you get to the logon screen you can choose lubuntu | |
| [03:33] <Orrin_Fox> well, if i can install it without needing to go into the desktop then i suppose it could work | |
| [03:33] <Orrin_Fox> i can start a terminal session | |
| [03:33] <kanliot> why can't you get into ubuntu? | |
| [03:33] <kanliot> it should work | |
| [03:33] <tony_> so you are on another computer? | |
| [03:33] <kanliot> really | |
| [03:33] <kanliot> just horribly slow... | |
| [03:33] <Orrin_Fox> yeah im on another computer | |
| [03:34] <kanliot> well anyhow | |
| [03:34] <kanliot> try it out | |
| [03:34] <kanliot> should take about 100MB of downloads or so | |
| [03:34] <kanliot> mebbe more | |
| [03:34] <Orrin_Fox> I happen to have an iso on me actually | |
| [03:34] <tony_> when the logon screen comes up, press Ctrl + Alt + F2 and login and type sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop | |
| [03:34] <Orrin_Fox> alright, yeah i can do it from the terminal | |
| [03:35] <tony_> Lubuntu should work for you | |
| [03:35] <Orrin_Fox> alright, i was just wanting some second opinions on how well it would work. | |
| [03:36] <kanliot> xxxterm | |
| [03:36] <kanliot> actually if you really need performance | |
| [03:36] <kanliot> it would be better to install from scratch | |
| [03:36] <kanliot> but i donno why ubuuntu isn't working now | |
| [03:37] <kanliot> it should start up | |
| [03:37] <Orrin_Fox> that was what i was thinking.. actually | |
| [03:37] <kanliot> for example | |
| [03:37] <Orrin_Fox> its seeming as if theres not enough ram to load it | |
| [03:37] <Orrin_Fox> i mean it shows up | |
| [03:37] <kanliot> you get the unity bar? | |
| [03:37] <Orrin_Fox> but, the side bar wont come up or anything | |
| [03:37] <Orrin_Fox> no | |
| [03:37] <kanliot> it just doesn't respond | |
| [03:37] <kanliot> hm | |
| [03:37] <kanliot> it should if you let it sit for 2 minutes | |
| [03:37] <Orrin_Fox> seems *maybe* to be a ram issue | |
| [03:38] <kanliot> but i can only guess | |
| [03:38] <Orrin_Fox> yeah this sat for.. 10 some odd minutes | |
| [03:38] <kanliot> how much swap space? | |
| [03:38] <Orrin_Fox> oh im not sure i wasnt able to get into the terminal, it locked up | |
| [03:38] <tony_> once you get lubuntu-desktop working, you might wanna disable some unnecessary daemons that are using RAM | |
| [03:38] <Orrin_Fox> yeah | |
| [03:39] <kanliot> did you ctrl+alt+f2? | |
| [03:39] <Orrin_Fox> yeah | |
| [03:39] <kanliot> are you running livecd? | |
| [03:39] <kanliot> or idd you already install? | |
| [03:39] <Orrin_Fox> no i installed it | |
| [03:39] <tony_> ok ctrl alt f7 | |
| [03:39] <Orrin_Fox> well, i dont have that option right now. as its not running | |
| [03:40] <tony_> ok. sudo reboot -h now | |
| [03:40] <Orrin_Fox> mhm | |
| [03:42] <tony_> how much hdd space on that? | |
| [03:42] <kanliot> anyhow Orrin_Fox you can install lubuntu, especially with the alternate installer | |
| [03:42] <kanliot> it installs and runs great on 128mb | |
| [03:42] <Orrin_Fox> yeah, i downloaded the mini installer | |
| [03:43] <Orrin_Fox> And i have two HDs so, space isnt too much an issue | |
| [03:43] <holstein> the alternate text based installer.. im not sure how "mini" it is | |
| [03:43] <Orrin_Fox> yeah, true, ill just have to see how it goes | |
| [03:44] <kanliot> mini installer isn't for new usersd | |
| [03:44] <kanliot> alternate installer is | |
| [03:44] <kanliot> if it takes you an hour to get the 12.04 alt installer, it's time well spent | |
| [03:45] <kanliot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall | |
| [03:46] <kanliot> ^instructions | |
| [03:46] <Orrin_Fox> im there | |
| [03:46] <kanliot> am i wrong guys? I don't remember the mini iso being easy to use | |
| [03:47] <Unit193> It isn't hard. | |
| [03:48] <kanliot> ok maybe i'm off base | |
| [03:48] <holstein> you'll need to download the desktop at some point though | |
| [03:48] <Unit193> Yeah, I wouldn't say you download less, just at a different time. | |
| [03:48] <Unit193> (Though, you wouldn't have a ton of updates later to do as well) | |
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| [18:16] <toscho> hello | |
| [18:16] <toscho> my autostart entrys don't always work | |
| [18:17] <holstein> toscho: in what case are the working and when are they failing | |
| [18:17] <toscho> can someon help me fix them | |
| [18:18] <toscho> I have added two lines to ~/.config/lxsession/autostart | |
| [18:18] <toscho> if i start the laptop from cold they are most often ignored | |
| [18:18] <toscho> if i kill x via ctrl-del-backspace, they work | |
| [18:19] <holstein> toscho: what are "they".. maybe you just need to add a little delay in | |
| [18:19] <toscho> @xmodmap -e "keycode 166=Home" | |
| [18:19] <toscho> @xmodmap -e "keycode 167=End" | |
| [18:27] <holstein> toscho: i would try a delay | |
| [18:28] <toscho> how to? | |
| [18:29] <holstein> i would read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152099 | |
| [18:29] <holstein> seems like adding the sleep command should add delay | |
| [18:31] <toscho> thx, i will try | |
| [18:52] <toscho> thx holstein, it worked | |
| [19:07] <holstein> toscho: COOL! enjoy :) | |
| [23:23] <battlehands> can someone point me towards a latex friendly lubuntu editor | |
| [23:30] <wxl> battlehands: yes! vi ;) | |
| [23:31] <wxl> gvim if you need a gui | |
| [23:31] <battlehands> Im already in the process of installing texmaker or something like that | |
| [23:31] <wxl> there's latex-suite | |
| [23:31] <battlehands> hoepfully this one has some preset templates that I can use. | |
| [23:31] <wxl> ↑ for vi/vim/gvim | |
| [23:32] <wxl> if you're not already used to (g)vi(m) tho prolly not best | |
| [23:32] <wxl> there's also lyx and texmacs | |
| [23:32] <wxl> haven't used any but vi | |
| [23:32] <wxl> also ppl use emacs too | |
| [23:34] <wxl> there's gedit but technically that will pull in some other gnome crap | |
| [23:35] <wxl> lyx and texmacs are wysiwig which is not how i usually do latex. not how a lot of ppl do. | |