| === Logan_ is now known as k | |
| [01:45] <ryaxnb> has ubuntu officially gone to dvd? | |
| [01:45] <ryaxnb> the new release is 800MB | |
| [01:46] <natman> anyone been using telepathy in kubuntu12.10? hows it looking? how does it compare to kopete? | |
| [01:47] <ryaxnb> i personally would recommend a 2GB image file size. | |
| [02:06] <KRomeleoN> hey yall | |
| [02:07] <arand> ryaxnb: over-sizing is an expected bug in alpha/beta afaik, I'm not sure if the maxsize was raised though, since it used to be the case that the oversizedness was pointed out on the cdimage page. | |
| === IdleOne changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to #ubuntu+1, the channel for discussion of pre-release versions of Ubuntu. The next version of Ubuntu will be 12.10 with development codename Quantal Quetzal. | Beta1 Released http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ | |
| [02:13] <ryaxnb> eh, 800MB is a lot of oversize | |
| [02:14] <ryaxnb> it's worth noting if you switch to MODE1 you can fit 800MB on a CD | |
| [02:14] <ryaxnb> (no error correction) | |
| [02:14] <ryaxnb> most CDs can technically hold 800MB, if need be... ;) | |
| [02:14] <ryaxnb> whether or not burning programs are adept at fitting 800MB on them is another matter | |
| [02:15] <ryaxnb> anyway, on ebay, the prices for direct from china 100pk of CDs & DVDs are identical nowadays | |
| [02:15] <ryaxnb> CDs are old things | |
| [02:15] <ryaxnb> same with DVDRW 25pk vs CDRW 25pk | |
| [02:17] <trism> ryaxnb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta1#Ubuntu (first sentence) | |
| [02:55] <mike_sun> hi, I update my ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and there is no dash preview | |
| [02:56] <mike_sun> when I click if the right button, the file is open, not show any preview | |
| [02:56] <mike_sun> any idea? | |
| [03:19] <mike_sun> hi, I have to enable dash preview on ubuntu 12.10 beta 1? because right click don't show any preview, just open the file | |
| [05:34] <vega-> takes 3-4 sec for alt-tab to display the menu, blazingly fast ... | |
| [05:35] <vega-> with 2 year old laptop, nvidia quadro nvs 160m and nvidia binary drivers | |
| [05:35] <vega-> same with the thingie that opens from Windows key | |
| [05:39] <vega-> also winkey-s and winkey-w functionality is dead slow, any way to improve this? | |
| === trijntje_ is now known as trijntje | |
| [08:54] <gnomefreak> why7 cant stuff be easy at 3am | |
| [08:59] <smartboyhw> gnomefreak: !? | |
| [09:03] <gnomefreak> i cant even send emails right. i need a smoke, brb | |
| [10:26] <digidot> Are there plans for Ubuntu (Unity) to move from Compiz to Mutter? | |
| [10:26] <digidot> Are there plans for Ubuntu (Unity) to move from Compiz to Mutter? | |
| [10:27] <smartboyhw> Hey don't double post:) | |
| [10:27] <smartboyhw> Isn't it moving to metacity!?!? | |
| [10:30] <rochabk> hello everyone | |
| [10:30] <rochabk> is ubuntu 12.10 beta 1 very unstable? | |
| [10:30] <smartboyhw> Hello rochabk | |
| [10:30] <smartboyhw> rochabk: It should NOT bd | |
| [10:30] <smartboyhw> *be | |
| [10:30] <smartboyhw> Since it has already been tested | |
| [10:31] <digidot> smartboyhw: Sorry copy/paste mistake.. | |
| [10:31] <smartboyhw> digidot: NP :) | |
| [10:31] <rochabk> what are the common issues i might face | |
| [10:31] <rochabk> yes NP:) | |
| [10:31] <smartboyhw> rochabk: Well maybe you will get some bugs in certain apps | |
| [10:31] <smartboyhw> Or crashes | |
| [10:32] <rochabk> oH | |
| [10:32] <smartboyhw> But at least you can USE it | |
| [10:33] <rochabk> after I upgrade to beta 1 should I reinstall the older apps again | |
| [10:34] <smartboyhw> rochabk: You mean from like 12.04? | |
| [10:34] <smartboyhw> No! | |
| [10:34] <rochabk> yes | |
| [10:34] <smartboyhw> Oh alright you don't need to | |
| [10:34] <rochabk> wow | |
| [10:34] <rochabk> thats reliefing | |
| [10:34] <smartboyhw> LOL it upgrades FOR you | |
| [10:35] <rochabk> oh that really good | |
| [10:35] <smartboyhw> Yeah! | |
| [10:35] <smartboyhw> But then after upgrade | |
| [10:36] <smartboyhw> remember to do a "sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" | |
| [10:39] <rochabk> okes | |
| [10:40] <smartboyhw> okes | |
| [10:49] <Ejdesgaard> how can it be that eclipse-3.8-rc4 is in 12.10 software-center and not eclipse-4.2 ? | |
| [10:53] <rochabk> Ejdesgaard: I think ubuntu keep certain build in their software database | |
| [10:53] <rochabk> at the time of their release | |
| [10:57] <Ejdesgaard> rochabk, I can't find any 3.8 release on eclipse.org... http://wiki.eclipse.org/Simultaneous_Release | |
| [10:58] <rochabk> Ejdesgaard: I find the answers here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11322349/eclipse-3-8-where-is-the-download-site | |
| [11:00] <Ejdesgaard> that explains it :) | |
| [11:07] <pwuertz> Hi, I just upgraded to 12.10 and I cannot find the option for a compact view of the contact list anymore.. is it gone? | |
| [11:17] <rochabk> pwuertz: can you explain more? | |
| [11:17] <pwuertz> rochabk: yea.. I just joined the irc channel for epiphany | |
| [11:18] <pwuertz> rochabk: seems they removed the compact layout for the chat contact list | |
| [11:18] <rochabk> oH in epiphany | |
| [11:18] <pwuertz> rochabk: ahh sorry.. empathy | |
| [11:20] <rochabk> Ohmy I had not used Empathy | |
| [11:25] <Ejdesgaard> I read "Switch off" as pulling the power cord... which is kindof misleading, when I want to shut down the computer | |
| [11:38] <mortal> do you have sound problems on quantal? latest packages installed and both my eee pc and thinkpad laptops don't produce any sound | |
| [11:38] <mortal> they both have intel audio | |
| [11:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all | |
| [11:51] <mortal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1047299 posted this | |
| [11:51] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1047299 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Pulseaudio does not use audio hardware, has only pseudo output [quantal]" [Undecided,New] | |
| [11:57] <BluesKaj> mortal, install pavucontrol i, it's the GUI part of pulse , and gives control over your inputs and out puts , also which audio chip does alsamixer show ? | |
| [11:58] <BluesKaj> puse is a soundserver that needs alsa to operate | |
| [11:58] <BluesKaj> pulse | |
| [12:27] <Bluefoxicy> hah | |
| [12:27] <Bluefoxicy> I've upgraded but haven't yet rebooted and I restarted gnome-shell o.o | |
| [12:27] <smartboyhw> Oh yeah? Reboot please | |
| === xezexal is now known as SolarAquarion | |
| [13:35] <Guest3894> Has any one managed to install with disk encryption? When I tick the disk encryption box in the installer, I can't get past the next screen titled "Choose a security key". There are no dialog boxes to enter a key, and the Next button is not accessible. | |
| [13:35] <ActionParsnip> not used i, too many headaches | |
| [13:35] <ActionParsnip> *it | |
| [13:42] <BluesKaj> dunno whythe devs insist on imposing lightdm on us , they could at least wait til it;s stable ...kdm works fine | |
| [13:44] <ActionParsnip> its not imposed at all | |
| [13:44] <ActionParsnip> its just installed by default | |
| [13:44] <ActionParsnip> you can use kdm if yuo want | |
| [13:44] <ActionParsnip> !info kdm quantal | |
| [13:44] <ubottu> kdm (source: kde-workspace): KDE Display Manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 907 kB, installed size 2690 kB | |
| [13:45] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: its just like any other app, if you don't like it, use something else | |
| [13:45] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: I hate firefox, its been the default browser forever, I always remove it and install something I prefer | |
| [13:45] <BluesKaj> I am using kdm ..but lightdm shouldn't be default 'til it's stable | |
| [13:46] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: seems stable here, never had an issue | |
| [13:46] <BluesKaj> you can't can't remove it only disable | |
| [13:46] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/16560/desktop-o-kubuntu-lightdm/ has some discussion around that from the last UDS | |
| [13:46] <ActionParsnip> for the sake of 2Mb, i'm sure we'll live | |
| [13:47] <BluesKaj> default is an imposition , when i doesn't work :) | |
| [13:48] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: firefox doesn't work | |
| [13:48] <ActionParsnip> thunderbird...really? | |
| [13:48] <ActionParsnip> gedit is dog slow | |
| [13:48] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: want me to continue? | |
| [13:49] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: lightdm is a dep of ubuntu-desktop you could report a bug to make it optional and then the user can install the DM of their choice | |
| [13:52] <BluesKaj> tsimpson, I'm on the single sighn in merry-go-round , Either you have not been granted access to this resource or your entitlement has timed out. Please try again. | |
| [13:52] <tsimpson> I'll just pastebin it for you :) | |
| [13:52] <BluesKaj> so nm , today is not starting out well :P | |
| [13:53] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1190841/ | |
| [14:00] <jbicha> BluesKaj: you could ask for kdm to be an alternate dependency, lightdm is getting a lot more development these days & is a good choice for *buntu distros | |
| [14:02] <BluesKaj> jbicha, it was working until the last update/upgrade ...suppose i should have mentioned that , suddenly broke ..again , guess I should be grateful that kdm still works :) | |
| [14:33] <Guest3894> If i turn on disk encryption, what does it do when I "encrypt my home folder" during the initial user creation with the installer? | |
| [14:38] <ironhalik> the encypt my home folder options creates an encrypted container in which your home folder resides | |
| [14:38] <ironhalik> all your private data is encrypted and is accessible on login | |
| [14:39] <ironhalik> but directories like /opt /etc in plain text | |
| [14:40] <ironhalik> its a decent solution - almost no performance hit while nice security | |
| [14:42] <ikonia> Guest3894: do you have secret data - and I do mean secret ? | |
| [14:42] <ironhalik> like, lets say, one million apple UDIDs :> | |
| [14:43] <ikonia> Guest3894: unless you have genuine sensitive data that pure permission control is not enough, don't use it, it's a managment overhead you do not need | |
| [14:43] <ikonia> Guest3894: (you are of course welcome to ignore that advice) | |
| [14:44] <ironhalik> ikonia: well, on a laptop that can be easily stolen, browser cookies can be enough of a sensitive data | |
| [14:44] <ironhalik> and home folder encryption is pretty much transparent | |
| [14:45] <BluesKaj> my apologies , ActionParsnip , tsimpson , jbicha , lightdm works again after another reboot ,,,odd that it didn't load on reboot after the large upgrade the first time | |
| [14:47] <ikonia> I'm sorry, cookies are not sensitive data, they are of little concern | |
| [14:47] <ikonia> but if you feel the need - do it. | |
| [14:47] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: good ol windows method :) | |
| [14:48] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: don't sweat it btw it's all gooooood | |
| [14:48] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, double reboots :) | |
| [14:48] <Guest3894> ikonia and ironhalik does a default ubuntu partition scheme have a separate partition for /home? because otherwise /home is already encrypted when i chose to encrypt the disk | |
| [14:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest3894: default partitioning is one single partition for / and one for swap | |
| [14:49] <Guest3894> ActionParsnip: right, so asking me if i want to encrypt my user dir is redundant after i have encrypted the partition | |
| [14:49] <ironhalik> true | |
| [14:50] <Guest3894> i suppose if you want each of your users to have an encrypted home dir that would be something... | |
| [14:50] <Guest3894> also the install just finished and whatever it did grub can't find it lol | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | |
| [17:25] <user_> can i have more than 4 workspaces in Unity ? | |
| [17:35] <trism> user_: yes, you can configure them in ccsm on the general tab | |
| === Jikan is now known as Jikai | |
| [17:55] <brot> soo, am i currently the only one who has problems installing a new version of linux-image? | |
| [17:56] <brot> The following packages have unmet dependencies: | |
| [17:56] <brot> linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.5.0-14-generic but it is not installable | |
| [17:59] <trism> brot: -14 is still in proposed, and stuck in the NEW queue, so linux-meta (linux-image-generic) is ready but not linux (linux-image-3.5.0-14-generic) | |
| [18:02] <IdleOne> in other words, just wait a little while and it will be there soon | |
| [18:02] <IdleOne> soon ~= 1 minute up to 1 year | |
| [18:03] <trism> *nods* | |
| [18:06] <brot> mmh, i wonder when i started to use the proposed thingys | |
| [18:06] <brot> i thought those get disabled while starting the 12.04 -> 12.10 upgrade | |
| [18:09] <IdleOne> brot: you aren't using the proposed repo, before a package gets put into the repositories it goes into a "proposed" queue waiting to be approved. | |
| [18:09] <IdleOne> these types of dependency issues are common during the dev cycle and usually resolve themselves fairly quickly | |
| [18:12] <brot> disabled proposed repo, everything works like it should | |
| [18:12] <brot> thanks :) | |
| [18:13] <IdleOne> lol, ok. | |
| [18:13] <brot> ( i needed to resolve that as i did some housekeeping and deleted every linux-image <3.5 :) | |
| === Supersaiyan_IV is now known as matrixa1 | |
| [20:23] <marcappuccino> Does anyone know whether the new window minimize and unminimize animations in Quantal beta 1 will be permenant? | |
| [20:27] <ChaosEngine> greetings | |
| [20:28] <ChaosEngine> Got funny issue under VirtualBox and U12.10 as a guest | |
| [20:28] <ChaosEngine> Fres install finishes with empty deskltop and some error popped-out | |
| [20:29] <ChaosEngine> no compiz, no window, nuthing | |
| [20:29] <ChaosEngine> Updatre-SoftwareCenter crashed with DBusException in _new__();...... | |
| [20:30] <ChaosEngine> and I can only start reboot-looop-to-the same error | |
| [21:18] <ChaosEngine> ok, scratch all that before taht came from me, everything worx | |
| [21:19] <ChaosEngine> I'v got some earlier borked CD which had this problem, and in bet i'ts obviously fixed. | |
| [21:20] <ChaosEngine> Sorry 4 the inconvinience ;-> | |
| [21:27] <Morgawr> hello everyone.. I'm trying to run the new ubuntu beta (12.10) on a kvm virtual machine just to see how it goes.. however when I go installing it it says that it fails on the step "Select and Install Software" after asking me what type of updates I want to use (automatic, manual, etc etc) | |
| [21:27] <Morgawr> is this a known issue? | |
| [21:40] <taowa> After Quetzal what is the codename | |
| [21:43] <Daekdroom> taowa, it has not been decided yet | |
| [21:46] <taowa> OK | |
| [23:11] <Flumpy> Why did the most recent upgrade install gdm? | |
| [23:16] <ChogyDan> aptitude why gdm | |
| [23:18] <jbicha> Flumpy: because gnome-shell won't run if you don't have gdm installed | |
| [23:19] <Flumpy> jbicha: Huh. Is that new? I haven't needed it before. | |
| [23:20] <jbicha> the need for gdm is new, yes | |
| [23:20] <Flumpy> Oh, okay, thanks. | |
| [23:20] <jbicha> it might be possible to split libgdm into a separate package | |
| [23:21] <Flumpy> I'm not going to try to force it, I was just curious. | |
| [23:21] <jbicha> but if you want the lock screen to actually lock, you'll currently need to not only have gdm installed but have it as default | |
| [23:42] <jbicha> yeah, it looks like Fedora is fine with only depending on the gdm library, I'll look into that | |