| === Ursinha` is now known as Ursinha | |
| === Ursinha is now known as Guest70417 | |
| === Guest70417 is now known as Ursinha | |
| === Ursinha is now known as Guest78022 | |
| [08:22] <beyond_> qgis porting to beagleboard help?? anyone here? | |
| [08:37] <beyond_> qgis porting to beagleboard help?? anyone here? | |
| [08:38] <LetoThe2nd> beyond_: smart questions, anyone read? | |
| [08:39] <LetoThe2nd> beyond_: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | |
| [08:44] <beyond_> qgis porting to beagleboard ubuntu error.. Help please | |
| [08:45] * LetoThe2nd sighs and heads back to work. | |
| [09:55] <lilstevie> LetoThe2nd, I like it | |
| [09:57] <LetoThe2nd> lilstevie: what specifically | |
| [09:58] <lilstevie> the smart-questions faq | |
| [09:58] <LetoThe2nd> lilstevie: its awesome. too bad nobody ever reads it. | |
| [09:59] * lilstevie is reading it right now | |
| [10:37] <ogra_> rsalveti, bug 1045491 for you | |
| [10:37] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1045491 in pvr-omap4 "Moving mouse messes up the desktop" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045491 | |
| [11:10] <ogra_> rsalveti, hmm, i struggel to get any monitor output on the server image ... is there any trick to make that work if no xserver and no pvr driver are installed ? | |
| [11:17] <ogra_> yippie, my new ac100 screen arrived | |
| [11:20] <ogra_> marvin24, do you happen to know if i still need the kernel hacks if i want to use a 1280x720 panel with the 3.1 kernel ? | |
| [11:21] <marvin24> ogra_: yes, the resolution is hard coded | |
| [11:21] <ogra_> k, sad | |
| [11:21] <marvin24> maybe we could read out the edid | |
| [11:21] <marvin24> but I have no idea how | |
| [11:21] <ogra_> well, i guess it would be fixed if i used a kms enabled kernel | |
| [11:22] <marvin24> not really | |
| [11:22] <marvin24> no edid, no autoresolution | |
| [11:22] <ogra_> oh | |
| [11:22] <marvin24> the schematic says something about a ddc connection, though | |
| [11:22] <ogra_> i thought kms would rely on EDID data | |
| [11:23] <ogra_> anyway, first i need to replace the HW :) | |
| [11:23] * ogra_ is a bit scared to remove the bezel | |
| [11:24] * LetoThe2nd hands ogra_ an "r" | |
| [11:24] <ogra_> lol | |
| [11:24] <ogra_> bavarians ... | |
| [11:24] <LetoThe2nd> \o/ | |
| [11:25] <LetoThe2nd> a bavarian would never call it "brezel" though, but "brezn" | |
| [11:25] <ogra_> oh, indeed | |
| [11:28] <marvin24> ogra_: yes, kms needs it | |
| [11:28] <marvin24> but there's a hard code hack ... | |
| [11:28] <ogra_> lovely | |
| [11:28] <marvin24> seems the ddc data path is only connected to the hdmi port | |
| [11:28] <ogra_> well, i'm willing to live with a hack if needed, after all 720p panels arent std on the ac100 | |
| [11:29] <ogra_> (and i wouldnt have bought it if one of my ac100s wouldnt have a cracked screen) | |
| [11:44] <rsalveti> ogra_: what is the issue with the server image? in theory you should be able to get the boot log or the console login interface just fine | |
| [11:44] <rsalveti> unless your panda is not recognizing your monitor from the kernel side, at least not during boot | |
| [11:45] <rsalveti> and the modeseting from pvr-omap4 is the one enabling and starting your monitor properly | |
| [11:45] <ogra_> rsalveti, it works just fine when doin a serial install, but without console= set no screen comes up on the monitor | |
| [11:45] <ogra_> there is no pvr on server installs | |
| [11:45] <rsalveti> ogra_: and thanks for the buglink, got the kernel to build here, will give it a try now | |
| [11:45] <ogra_> we cant ship X there | |
| [11:45] <rsalveti> that's fine, the kernel should still be able to set up the correct resolution and get everything in place for you | |
| [11:46] <rsalveti> even if you're not using X | |
| [11:46] <ogra_> you mean if i dont have pvr installed ? | |
| [11:46] <rsalveti> let me boot with text and see if I can reproduce your behavior | |
| [11:46] <rsalveti> yup | |
| [11:46] <ogra_> i dont even get a console after install :/ | |
| [11:48] <ogra_> [ 0.288848] omap_sr_disable: omap_sr struct for sr_iva not found | |
| [11:48] <ogra_> [ 0.291564] omap_hwmod: sl2if: _wait_target_ready error: -16 | |
| [11:49] <ogra_> thats the only error i find in dmesg | |
| [11:49] <ogra_> well, a few more omap_sr errors | |
| [11:49] <rsalveti> adding drm.debug=7 omapdss.debug=1 might help us understanding what is happening | |
| [11:49] * ogra_ does | |
| [11:53] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1185592/ | |
| [11:55] <rsalveti> ogra_: here it seems to work fine, after booting with 'text' | |
| [11:55] <ogra_> rsalveti, what is bothering is that it works just fine on desktop ... | |
| [11:55] <rsalveti> the monitor turned itself on while opening the tty1 console | |
| [11:55] <ogra_> on a server image ? | |
| [11:55] <ogra_> note that desktop has no issues here either | |
| [11:55] <rsalveti> no, desktop, but with 'text' the X11 it not even started | |
| [11:56] <ogra_> and it didnt with the alpha release (where we had no pvr) | |
| [11:56] <rsalveti> let me check the logs | |
| [11:57] <rsalveti> ogra_: when booting your desktop image, do you always see the splash before X11 starts? | |
| [11:57] <ogra_> hmm, i didnt check, i think i didnt see it after install, but before | |
| [11:58] <ogra_> i.e. booting the image showed it ... but it was gone after booting into the installed system | |
| [11:58] <rsalveti> ogra_: also, can you check what happens when you use the dvi output instead of hdmi? | |
| [11:58] <ogra_> already tried, no change | |
| [11:58] <ogra_> i would blame my monitor (LG) ... if it wouldnt work just fine in desktop | |
| [11:59] <ogra_> with the same kernel | |
| [11:59] <ogra_> [ 508.846771] omapdss DISPC: channel 1 xres 1920 yres 1080 | |
| [11:59] <ogra_> [ 508.879577] omapdss HDMI: hdmi_runtime_get | |
| [11:59] <ogra_> [ 508.879608] omapdss HDMI: hdmi_runtime_put | |
| [11:59] <ogra_> [ 508.879608] omapdss HDMI: Enter hdmi_display_disable | |
| [11:59] <ogra_> seems thats printed over and over in dmesg now | |
| [12:02] <ogra_> ogra@panda:~$ who | |
| [12:02] <ogra_> ogra tty4 2012-09-04 14:01 | |
| [12:02] <ogra_> ogra pts/0 2012-09-04 13:51 (192.168.2.91) | |
| [12:02] <ogra_> after logging in blindly ... | |
| [12:02] <ogra_> so getty is there and i can log in ... just cant see a thing | |
| [12:03] <rsalveti> there's a lot of sync_lost as well... | |
| [12:03] <ogra_> yes | |
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| [12:07] <rsalveti> let me just give the new kernel a try (with in theory fixes the flickering issue) | |
| [12:07] <rsalveti> this new kernel changes quite a few bits at the dss and display driver | |
| [12:07] <rsalveti> and reverts a few changes for omap5 as well | |
| [12:07] <ogra_> ok | |
| [12:08] <ogra_> if you think it hleps i can test here too | |
| [12:08] <rsalveti> sure | |
| [12:19] <ndec> rsalveti: so you decided to go with the ~try kernel? | |
| [12:20] <ndec> where do you host the code? it's not coming from tilt-3.4.. | |
| [12:20] <rsalveti> ndec: not yet, still checking what would be the side effects | |
| [12:20] <rsalveti> we're using robclark's tree | |
| [12:20] <ndec> yeah, i know. | |
| [12:21] <ndec> but it breaks some display interface such as DSI at least. not sure if some of your users will care about that. | |
| [12:21] <rsalveti> yeah, that's one of the issues I noticed here as well | |
| [12:22] <ndec> DSI? you mean DVI, no? | |
| [12:23] <ndec> there is a cleaner solution that has been designed in omapdss, to fix the same issue. and that is being planned for upstreaming in the upcoming kernel. | |
| [12:24] <rsalveti> what is the current state of that? | |
| [12:24] <rsalveti> because we either go with the same solution from ~try or decide to backport the proper one that will land upstream later on | |
| [12:24] <ndec> i am hoping that we will get omapdss changes in our upcoming 3.6 tree. | |
| [12:24] <rsalveti> but there are a bunch of omap5 related changes at our tree as well | |
| [12:25] <ndec> and i am also interested in a backport of the 'clean' solution. | |
| [12:25] <ndec> omap5? | |
| [12:25] <rsalveti> because we got the tree from ti-3.4 branch | |
| [12:25] <ndec> and what do you call 'our' tree in fact? is it Andy's tree? | |
| [12:25] <rsalveti> yup | |
| [12:26] <ndec> yes, tilt-3.4 has some support for OMAP5, even though it's still missing a few bits. we have another tree we use for full releases on OMAP5. | |
| [12:27] <ndec> we will get a tilt-3.6 eventually with similar 'feature' set as tilt-3.4. except that our primary 'dev' and test platform will become OMAP5, instead of OMAP4. | |
| [12:27] <ndec> and that we will get the rework from omapdrm/omapdss. | |
| [12:27] <ndec> for OMAP4 'products' we will continue to use tilt.3.4, well our TI tree based on tilt-3.4 | |
| [12:28] <rsalveti> got it | |
| [12:37] <robclark> rsalveti, DVI should be working on my branch | |
| [12:39] <rsalveti> robclark: yup, but for some reason I'm not even getting my hdmi out to work | |
| [12:39] <rsalveti> still trying to understand why | |
| [12:40] <rsalveti> had to disable OMAP2_DSS_VENC and OMAP2_DSS_DSI for it to build | |
| [12:42] <robclark> rsalveti, hang on, I can pastebin my .config for you to cross check against | |
| [12:43] <robclark> rsalveti, http://hastebin.com/raw/gopiweniqi | |
| [12:43] <rsalveti> robclark: thanks, will check here | |
| [13:04] <robclark> rsalveti, btw, the weston shader optimizations were pushed to master last fri.. this should give a nice performance boost w/ pvr | |
| [13:04] <rsalveti> robclark: cool, nice to know | |
| [13:04] <plars> ogra_: heya | |
| [13:05] <plars> ogra_: on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/1045788 - I was trying ubuntu-server on my panda this morning and I'm seeing something very different | |
| [13:05] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1045788 in linux-ti-omap4 "screen on quantal server images stays black" [High,New] | |
| [13:06] <plars> ogra_: with hdmi plugged in, I see the language selection screen come up, but my keyboard does not work | |
| [13:06] <rsalveti> plars: hey :-) | |
| [13:07] <plars> hey rsalveti | |
| [13:07] <plars> rsalveti: your name sounds familiar...have we met? | |
| [13:07] <plars> :-b | |
| [13:07] <rsalveti> plars: ;-) | |
| [13:08] <rsalveti> plars: so I guess you're at least getting your screen to work properly? | |
| [13:08] <rsalveti> the usb issue is a bit weird | |
| [13:08] <rsalveti> I'd not be surprised if this screen issue is related with the monitor you're using | |
| [13:08] <rsalveti> as I'm able to get it to work here just fine as well | |
| [13:09] <rsalveti> and ogra_ seems to be getting a bunch of hdmi_display_disable messages after boot | |
| [13:10] <plars> rsalveti: yeah, likely | |
| [13:25] <plars> rsalveti, ogra_: also, even with serial, mine appears to get stuck at some point... just have a black screen now after going through a couple of steps | |
| [13:25] <rsalveti> :-( | |
| [13:26] <plars> wow, not sure what that was | |
| [13:26] <plars> I got it back though | |
| [13:26] <plars> no ^c or ^z, I think ^d finally did it | |
| [13:26] <plars> it was after network detection, after it asked me for hostname | |
| [13:26] <plars> screen just went black | |
| [13:26] <plars> now after ^d it continues though | |
| [13:27] <plars> if you didn't see this, maybe I will try to reimage this and reproduce in a moment... let me get through it as is for now thoug | |
| [13:29] <plars> oh, you have to manually make a partition on it now? | |
| === Guest78022 is now known as Ursinha | |
| === Ursinha is now known as Guest61980 | |
| [14:20] <ogra_> plars, ?? | |
| [14:20] <ogra_> plars, you need to install to USB nowadays | |
| [14:20] <ogra_> or yes, jump through several hoops and pre-partition the SD (with / and swap at minimum) | |
| [14:21] <ogra_> apart from the screen issue both, omap and omap4 server images work fine for me | |
| [14:28] <elfy> I have finally managed to get omap4 installed - happened to see an "omapdss HDMI error : failed to enable GPIO's" in a tty - is that a known thing or should I report it - if so what should I report it against - thanks for any help :) | |
| [14:29] <elfy> or is it tied up with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pvr-omap4/+bug/1045491 | |
| [14:29] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1045491 in pvr-omap4 "Moving mouse messes up the desktop" [High,Confirmed] | |
| [14:29] <ogra_> does your system behave as expected otherwise ? | |
| [14:29] <elfy> I believe so ogra_ - this is the first time I've managed to get installed :) | |
| [14:30] <ogra_> i think it prints that every time you swithc the display context ... i.e. from X to a tty or back, i see that here too | |
| [14:30] <elfy> aah ok - thanks | |
| [14:32] <elfy> though it is very very slow to respond to mouse | |
| [14:32] <ogra_> hmm, i didnt find it slow | |
| [14:32] <ogra_> i found firefox extremely slow though | |
| [14:32] <ogra_> everything thats 3D rendered seemed fine | |
| [14:33] <ogra_> (i dont think it is slower than unity-2d was with the framebuffer driver in 12.04) | |
| [14:33] <ogra_> but thats indeed totally subjective :) | |
| [14:34] <elfy> 7 seconds to report back from free -m in aterminal, 20 secs to give the me the shutdown menu, a long time for nautilus to show anything | |
| [14:34] <ogra_> oh, thats disk I/O ... i thought you referred to graphics | |
| [14:35] <elfy> I was responding to " does your system behave as expected otherwise" | |
| [14:35] <ogra_> well, using USB for / simply limits you to the max 24MB/s you can pump through a USB bus | |
| [14:35] <ogra_> thats still a lot more than with SD, but its just USB after all | |
| [14:36] <elfy> aah ok - so that is 'expected' - if I'd thought more I'd have not asked lol | |
| [14:36] <ogra_> also note that there are a lot of tasks running right after install | |
| [14:36] <elfy> ok - so yea - as far as graphics - I just have that bug I linked then | |
| [14:36] <ogra_> update-xapian-index ... locate ... lots of processes that put a horrible load on the little panda | |
| [14:37] <elfy> yep | |
| [14:37] <ogra_> try to let it sit fro 30min until all these bits are done | |
| [14:37] <elfy> ok | |
| [14:37] <ogra_> and also do an additional reboot, that helps ureadahead to set up a better profile | |
| [14:37] <ogra_> (i think it uses three runs (each run at a fresh boot) to actually build the proper profile | |
| [14:37] <ogra_> ) | |
| [14:38] <elfy> ok - will do that - and then see how it looks - thanks ogra_ | |
| [14:38] <ogra_> thanks for helping !!! | |
| [14:38] <ogra_> :) | |
| [14:38] <elfy> welcome :) | |
| [14:39] * ogra_ is happy about every additional tester | |
| [14:39] <elfy> lol | |
| [14:39] <elfy> I blame balloons - so you are safe :) | |
| [14:39] <ogra_> haha | |
| [14:40] <elfy> I test this and xubuntu - ubuntu has enough people :) | |
| [14:40] <ogra_> true | |
| [14:41] <ogra_> (though i bet plars would disagree ... ) | |
| [14:41] <elfy> :) | |
| [14:41] <elfy> I guess there's never enough people testing in truth | |
| [14:41] <ogra_> yeah | |
| [14:41] <balloons> hah! | |
| [14:43] <elfy> ohai balloons | |
| [14:47] * balloons waves at elfy | |
| [14:48] * elfy would wave back but the channel's logged ... :p | |
| [14:49] * ogra_ ponders if having the bootloader partition automounted after install is a bu or not | |
| [14:49] <ogra_> *bug | |
| [14:49] <ogra_> we used to hide it in the past | |
| [14:54] <ogra_> yay, my ac100 kernel with 1280x720 hack works | |
| [14:55] <lilstevie> ogra_, nice, I kinda want an ac100 | |
| [14:55] <lilstevie> seems like a bit of fun | |
| [14:56] <ogra_> buy one then :) | |
| [14:56] <lilstevie> hah | |
| [14:56] <LetoThe2nd> far too expensive. | |
| [14:56] * lilstevie doesn't think he could convince the mrs that he needs it | |
| [14:57] * LetoThe2nd repeatedly thought hard about if he needs another arm tablet/notebook device. i couldn't find any use case, so the answer obviously is no. | |
| [14:57] <ogra_> LetoThe2nd, http://www.amazon.de/Toshiba-AC100-10V-Netbook-Android-schwarz/dp/B003YJ67T2 | |
| [14:57] <ogra_> 169€ | |
| [14:57] <xnox> hmm... good price. | |
| [14:57] <xnox> ogra_: do they ship to UK? | |
| [14:58] <ogra_> i think you can still get them used on amazon.co.uk somewhere :) | |
| [14:58] <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: jsut for _having_ but not _using_ 170€ is still too much. | |
| [14:58] <ogra_> xnox, you likely dont want a german kbd :) | |
| [14:58] <xnox> ogra_: yes. I want US one | |
| [14:58] <ogra_> there are no US ac100's | |
| [14:58] <plars> ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/1045855 any suggestions what else I could try here? | |
| [14:58] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1045855 in linux-ti-omap4 "usb keyboard doesn't work during installation of ubuntu-server on panda" [Undecided,New] | |
| [14:59] <ogra_> uk, fr, russian, german iirc | |
| [14:59] <TypoNAM> ogra_: US never gets the cool toys :/ | |
| [14:59] <ogra_> plars, do you have a serial console enabled when it doesnt work ? | |
| [14:59] <xnox> ogra_: according to amazon.co.uk 169 EUR is 287 GBP, instead of 133 GBP | |
| [15:00] <ogra_> i have seen d-i take the input from serial while displaying on framebuffer before | |
| [15:00] <plars> ogra_: I do, but when I switch over to the serial pre-env, it seems that nothing is shown on the graphical display, so there's nothing to interact with | |
| [15:00] <ogra_> xnox, heh, yeah, they are bad at math ... especially when it comes to GBP | |
| [15:01] <plars> ogra_: I did try pressing keys on the serial console, just to see if it would affect what was happing on my screen, no luck | |
| [15:01] <ogra_> plars, well, for laughs, try hitting the up/down keys in your serial console and watch the monitor | |
| [15:01] <xnox> ogra_: i think they thing they are rather good with math, and customers aren't | |
| [15:01] <plars> ogra_: yeah, tried that | |
| [15:01] <ogra_> ah, you did | |
| [15:02] <plars> I'll play with it some more later... let me get through some more tests | |
| [15:02] <ogra_> yeah, as lon as seerial works i'm not too concerned | |
| [15:02] <ogra_> plain serial installs are fine for server ... | |
| [15:03] <ogra_> (not that we dont need to fix this, but its not a beta blocker imho) | |
| [15:03] <plars> ogra_: right | |
| [15:03] <plars> I know what you mean :) | |
| [15:03] <plars> it's possible to install for sure, so it's good enough for beta | |
| [15:03] <ogra_> yep | |
| [15:03] <ogra_> i'll have to write a little novel for the release notes though | |
| === Guest61980 is now known as Ursinha | |
| [16:16] <GrueMaster> Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, but it looks interesting. http://cubieboard.org | |
| [16:17] <ogra_> like a beaglebone :) | |
| [16:18] <GrueMaster> Except half price & with video + SATA. | |
| [16:19] <prpplague> that an all-winner based? | |
| [16:19] <prpplague> ahh right | |
| [16:19] <prpplague> yea A10 | |
| [16:20] <ogra_> the headphone jacks are really clever placed | |
| [16:29] <prpplague> indeed | |
| [16:34] <suihkulokki> someone needs start mainlining the allwinner stuff | |
| [16:34] <prpplague> hehe | |
| [16:54] <rsalveti> another allwinner based board? | |
| [16:54] <wookey> yep | |
| [16:54] <wookey> very cheap, and mali GPU | |
| [16:54] <rsalveti> suihkulokki: I think there are a few folks working on that already | |
| [16:55] <rsalveti> problem is that people got it all wrong at the beginning, it needs rework before being able to send anything upstream | |
| [16:55] <wookey> It looks a lot like what luke was trying to get done with PCMCIA-format A8, but only 1GB RAM :-( | |
| [16:58] <prpplague> wookey: yea it has some nice features and good size, but between lack of good mainline support and low amount of ram..... | |
| [17:07] <rsalveti> robclark: argh, worked fine with your config, need to check what caused the issue with the original one I used | |
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| [19:14] <prpplague> rsalveti: have a fun trip back home? | |
| === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson | |
| [19:38] <jimerickson> well omap4+armhf is working better than it did except for some wierd flashing in unity. why are fonts corrupted in the terminal in openbox? | |
| [19:41] <prpplague> jimerickson: because they hate you | |
| [19:41] <jimerickson> i thought as much! | |