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[00:43] <nady_> ?
[00:58] <holstein> !hi | nady_
[00:58] <ubot2`> Factoid 'hi' not found
[00:58] <holstein> !hello | nady_
[00:58] <ubot2`> Factoid 'hello' not found
[00:58] <holstein> nady_: welcome!
[03:21] <Veric> If the MD5SUM dose not match that means it was a bad DL?
[03:21] <TheMaster> As long as you are checking the right file, pretty much.
[03:22] <Veric> What causes that bad conection? I Dl 12.04 from Unbuntu
[03:23] <TheMaster> I'd recommend since you downloaded the file, try using zsync to just git the different bits.
[03:23] <TheMaster> !zsync
[03:23] <ubot2`> Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage
[03:24] <Veric> ok will do. thx that will help
[03:25] <TheMaster> Could also try a torrent, those tend to be pretty good.
[04:27] <histo> Wished every server used zsync
[13:03] <lukjad_> Hi guys
[13:04] <lukjad_> I seem to have messed up my GRUB partition
[13:04] <lukjad_> I ran fdisk -l to get my drives so I can recreate them
[13:04] <lukjad_> Following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[13:05] <lukjad_> But I'm unsure which of my five partitions I should use.
[13:05] <Sidewinder1> lukjad, I'm by no means a grub expert, but have you tried sudo update grub?
[13:06] <lukjad_> I'm running off a live CD 10.10, That command does not seem to work
[13:07] <lukjad_> Also, I had a / partition and a /home partition
[13:08] <lukjad_> So I'm unsure which I should pick to install grub to
[13:08] <Sidewinder1> Again, no expert, but there should be a way to 'install grub' from the live cd. Either way, if no one else answers here, you might try the main support channel at #ubuntu. Just type /join #ubuntu.
[13:09] <lukjad_> Sidewinder1, Well, I tried that, it says one was generated
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> There' 1557 people there, now. :-)
[13:09] <lukjad_> I guess I can try a reboot.
[13:10] <Sidewinder1> Yes, try that and if 'no joy', try in #ubuntu..
[13:10] <lukjad_> I was just panicking because all my live CDs that weren't ubuntu refused to boot
[13:11] <lukjad_> Sidewinder1, Hopefully I'll see you as lukjad next time!
[13:11] * lukjad_ goes for a reboot
[13:14] <lukjad> Aaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
[13:14] <lukjad> Sidewinder1 THANK YOU! :D
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> !yay
[13:14] <ubot2`> Glad you made it! :-)
[13:14] <lukjad> Sidewinder1 I want to do something for you
[13:14] <lukjad> Do you know what the Humble Indie Bundle is?
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> My pleasure; though I'm not exactly sure how I helped.. :-/
[13:16] <lukjad> Sidewinder1 ^
[13:16] <Sidewinder1> lukjad, I'm not much of a gamer and, I have all of the music that I need/want; but thanx for offering. :-)
[13:16] <lukjad> Aw, okay then. :)
[13:17] <lukjad> So you don't want the music bundle then?
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> I could use a new aircraft, though. ;-)
[13:17] <lukjad> Sorry, fresh out of those.
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> I particularly like the Cessna 310, prior to the "Q" model..
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> Heh,.
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> Just kidding; I'm glad that you're enjoying ubuntu. :)
[13:19] <lukjad> Yes, I have been a casual user (heh, that sound illegal) for some time now. My brain tends to shut down when it's my own PC though.
[13:19] <lukjad> Mainly because I don't have any backups so am running off live CDs, and you know how fun that is.
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> A little slow..
[13:22] <lukjad> Sidewinder1 Oh, and I couldn't find any that worked
[13:23] <lukjad> Slax, TEENpup, all of them refused to boot
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> lukjad, Do you md5sum your ISOs?
[13:23] <lukjad> I do, and they used to work too
[13:23] <lukjad> It seems they were detecting something on the HD and didn't like it
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> Hmm..
[13:24] <Sidewinder1> Do you burn your CDs at the SLOWEST speed?
[13:24] <lukjad> Not really, I burn them on Audo
[13:24] <lukjad> auto
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> That might be your problem. Think about it, a misplaced bit or two in an mp3 or an avi means little; however an entire operating system? See what I mean?
[13:26] <lukjad> Yah, I guess so
[13:26] <lukjad> 4x it is
[13:28] <Sidewinder1> Just select the slowest; it takes longer but you're then relatively certain that you've got 'a good burn.'
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
[15:00] <Drux> Hi, is anyone here?
[15:01] <holstein> Drux: lots of folks in and out all the time.. ask if you have a question, and welcome!
[15:02] <Drux> Oh alright. I was thinking about making a dual booting system...maybe triple booting. Win7/Ubuntu/Hackintosh.
[15:02] <holstein> enjoy!
[15:02] <Drux> So...I was wondering if there was a supported hardware list somewhere? I was looking at hackintosh stuff and I saw things like 680 nVidia cards...is there something like that here?
[15:02] <holstein> i dont waste my time making apple software run on things that its not "allowed" to run on
[15:03] <Drux> Okay no worries about the hackintosh, what about the Ubuntu stuff?
[15:03] <holstein> if you are asking about ubuntu compatibility, i would just search by model #
[15:03] <holstein> these days, most things are supported or supportable
[15:04] <Drux> Hmmm...so literally google <graphics card> ubuntu compatability?
[15:04] <holstein> i typically just get the hardware in front of me, and try a live CD on it.. and learn about how challenging support might be, if its not just working out of the box
[15:04] <holstein> we have popups that come up and offer to install drivers that are not "allowed" to be included by default
[15:05] <Drux> Natively by Ubuntu?
[15:05] <holstein> Drux: ubuntu doesnt make graphics cards
[15:05] <holstein> it would be supported by nvidia natively in ubuntu
[15:06] <Drux> Yes, I meant there would be a notification saying "Hey we know your graphics card is nateively bundled but here's where you could ask for help or here are the drivers from nVidia"
[15:06] <holstein> with steam coming to linux, i would expect more and more proper support for graphics cards in the near future
[15:06] <holstein> Drux: there is a notification that says "additional drivers are available"
[15:06] <Drux> Hahaha, alright.
[15:06] <histo> Drux: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see
[15:06] <histo> │ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[15:07] <holstein> its typically click through a menu and get a driver
[15:07] <holstein> i personally like to see the hardware in front of me.. a kerne upgrade can "break" functionality.. so having a list of supported hardware is challening to maintain
[15:08] <holstein> Drux: there is nothing in ubuntu preventing *any* manufacturer from supporting it with drivers
[15:10] <Drux> Hmmm...there is quite a lot of support. I may end up chancing a pc build for ubuntu/windows sicne there so much support for this stuff!
[19:54] <Bipul> Hellow my audio is not clear, it's cracking. how to fix it any one?
[20:00] <Sidewinder1> Bipul, I'm no expert; perhaps one of these links will help:
[20:01] <Sidewinder1> !sound | Bipul
[20:01] <ubot2`> Bipul: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3.
[20:02] <Sidewinder1> Bipul, But, crackling might simply be a loose connection.
[20:06] <veric> is flash plugin and flash player the same thing?
[20:11] <holstein> veric: in theory.. but i would literally try them all in your case
[20:11] <holstein> Bipul: in what? the browser?
[20:12] <veric> hey man i found my problem i think gona send it to you in a window
[20:12] <Samizdat> Is there a trick to getting wine to install on 12.04? I keep getting errors.
[20:13] <holstein> Samizdat: i ran sudo apt-get install wine and it worked fine.. you are likely getting errors installing a windows application in wine
[20:13] <Samizdat> Hey holstein. :)
[20:13] <Samizdat> The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:14] <Samizdat> I've done everything to clear packages, though.
[20:14] <holstein> Samizdat: i would fix what is broken
[20:14] <holstein> Samizdat: you might have a bad PPA.. or something you built that is causing an error
[20:15] <holstein> i would just go back through what all you have done.. and if you havent done anything, just run sudo apt-get update, and report errors
[20:15] <holstein> then, sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:16] <Samizdat> They both ran fine.
[20:16] <Samizdat> No errors.
[20:16] <holstein> Samizdat: ok.. so sudo apt-get install wine
[20:17] <Samizdat> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine : Depends: wine1.4 but it is not going to be installe
[20:17] <holstein> Samizdat: this is 64bit?
[20:18] <Samizdat> Yes.
[20:18] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.4/+bug/994309 mentions a workaround
[20:18] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 994309 in wine1.4 "wine is uninstallable" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:20] <Samizdat> Wow.
[20:20] <Samizdat> http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-77def7ca75193f24e358dba3dd6bcf674bd61b37
[20:20] <Samizdat> Is that the work around you speak of, holstein^
[20:21] <holstein> Samizdat: the one i was referencing is mentioned on the link i gave.... the bug report for the bug you are encountering
[20:21] <Samizdat> Okay, the force install.
[20:28] <Samizdat> Yeah, no luck.
[20:29] <Samizdat> geoffrey@geoffrey-HP-ProBook-4530s:~$ apt-get download wine1.4-i386 Get:1 Downloading wine1.4-i386 1.4-0ubuntu4.1 [19.9 MB] Fetched 19.9 MB in 16s (1,238 kB/s) geoffrey@geoffrey-HP-ProBook-4530s:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all -i wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb dpkg: error processing wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No
[20:43] <Bipul> holstein, no when i am recoding my desktop
[20:43] <Bipul> i am facing issue
[20:48] <geirha> Samizdat: apt-get downloads it to /var/cache/apt/archives, not the current dir
[20:48] <Samizdat> Okay, so I need to switch to there to run the force installs?
[20:49] <geirha> that or provide the path to the file
[20:49] <geirha> sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[20:52] <Samizdat> geirha: rchives/wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:22] <geirha> Samizdat: Ah, well the file probably has a different name then
[21:22] <Samizdat> Hmm.
[21:24] <Samizdat> geirha: root@geoffrey-HP-ProBook-4530s:/var/cache/apt/archives# sudo dpkg --force-all -i wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb Selecting previously unselected package wine1.4-i386:i386. (Reading database ... 319085 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking wine1.4-i386:i386 (from wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb) ... dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read on buffer copy for failed to wr
[21:25] <Samizdat> for failed to write to pipe in copy dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2 dpkg: error processing wine1.4-i386_1.4-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb (--install): short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/wine/atl.dll.so'
[21:30] <geirha> According to that bug report, the wine ppa apparently has a fixed package
[21:30] <geirha> of wine 1.5
[21:32] <Samizdat> Yeah, still doesn't work.
[21:35] <geirha> Hm. Let me try. I have wine1.4 installed, I'll try from the ppa
[21:42] <geirha> Installed without a hitch here
[21:43] <Samizdat> I have no idea.
[21:43] <Samizdat> I can get them all to install except the i386, geirha.
[21:44] <Samizdat> wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4-0ubuntu4.1)
[21:45] <geirha> what does dpkg --print-foreign-architectures output?
[21:46] <Samizdat> i386
[21:46] <geirha> same here. Hm.
[21:47] <Samizdat> Synaptic wants me to fix broken packages.
[21:47] <Samizdat> I try their way, but nothing changes.
[21:48] <geirha> Could you pastebin apt-cache policy wine1.4 wine1.4:i386 ?
[21:48] <geirha> You can pastebin by running apt-cache policy wine1.4 wine1.4:i386 | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[21:50] <Samizdat> http://pastebin.com/rwDfCXz4
[21:50] <Samizdat> geirha: ^
[21:51] <geirha> Samizdat: Looks correct, though you don't have the PPA enabled
[21:52] <geirha> Though, the version it shows is the version I had installed before I installed wine1.5 just now
[21:52] <Samizdat> I added it to the software center.
[21:54] <geirha> Hm. Then apt-cache policy should've shown packages from it
[21:54] <geirha> does sudo apt-get update produce any error messages?
[21:54] <Samizdat> I'm running this: apt-get download wine1.5*
[21:55] <Samizdat> No, runs perfectly.
[21:57] <geirha> Here's the output from mine for comparison http://sprunge.us/BRjF
[21:57] <Samizdat> Then I forced them all/.
[21:57] <Samizdat> sudo dpkg --force-all -i wine*
[21:57] <Samizdat> And now it seems to work.
[21:57] <Samizdat> __¯(°_o)/¯
[21:59] <geirha> Hm. Hopefully the force hasn't broken anything
[22:00] <Samizdat> Still can't load a program, though.