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[06:36] <BV1AL> I connected USB HUB to the OTG and it work for my keyb/mouse when I boot TI Blaze with Android ICS. |
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[06:36] <BV1AL> But if I boot ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf-omap4 on TI Blaze, and with the same connection(USB HUB keyb/mouse) |
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[06:37] <BV1AL> the keyb/mouse has no any response even though I can see the Ubuntu desktop on HDMI monitor |
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[06:37] <BV1AL> what can I do to solve this problem ? so I can start to configure Ubuntu. |
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[06:39] <scientes> BV1AL, AFAIK OTG ports are reverse ports |
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[06:39] <scientes> so they don't work for what you want |
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[06:42] <BV1AL> so this means I cannot run Ubuntu ? but only ICS ? |
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[06:42] <scientes> nono |
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[06:42] <BV1AL> because the keyboard on Blaze has no any response when I boot to Ubuntu |
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[06:43] <scientes> BV1AL, can you login via ssh? |
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[06:43] <BV1AL> so I need a external keyb |
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[06:43] <BV1AL> it has no network connection even I plug the ethernet to Blaze |
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[06:43] <scientes> then you need to log in via the serial console |
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[06:44] <BV1AL> serial port has no any response either |
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[06:45] <BV1AL> the monitor waiting me to select language for the system, but I can do nothing |
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[06:46] <scientes> did you unplug and replug in the keyboard? |
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[06:47] <BV1AL> yes I did |
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[06:47] <scientes> did you try with no hub? |
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[06:48] <scientes> anyways serial port is your best bet |
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[06:49] <BV1AL> in the beginning, the serial has messages |
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[06:49] <BV1AL> but right after "Uncompressing linux... done, booting the kernel" it has no any response |
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[06:49] <scientes> ahh then its a bug in ubuntu |
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[06:50] <scientes> or in the parameters you are passing to the kernel |
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[06:50] <scientes> shoudl pass something like console=ttyS0,11520 |
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[06:50] <BV1AL> when I type printenv, it has this console=xxxx |
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[06:50] <scientes> thats wrong |
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[06:51] <scientes> needs to be the above |
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[06:51] <scientes> but its "bootargs" that is the important variable |
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[06:51] <BV1AL> no, I mean it has the console=tty(something,speed |
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[06:51] <scientes> you have to study how it is booting before messing around |
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[06:51] <scientes> oh |
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[06:51] <scientes> well it might be good, and it might not |
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[06:51] <scientes> cause it has to pass it to the kernel too |
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[06:52] <scientes> via the bootargs variable in uboot |
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[06:52] <BV1AL> ok I'll try later |
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[06:53] <BV1AL> does this mean even I can login through serial port and configure, I still cannot use external keyb/mouse ? |
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[06:54] <scientes> serial port is with an external input |
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[06:54] <scientes> that is why serial is the universal debug port, its the simplest |
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[06:56] <BV1AL> but if everything need to send through serial port, this mean I have to depend on another PC |
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[06:57] <BV1AL> I wish to run Ubuntu on Blaze not debug |
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[06:57] <scientes> of course |
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[06:57] <scientes> but you need to run evtest to figure out what is going on with the keyboard/mouse |
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[06:57] <scientes> and dmesg |
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[06:58] <BV1AL> I see, thanks |
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[07:06] <BV1AL> the OTG port under ICS can act either master/slave mode depend on the microUSB I plugin |
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[07:08] <BV1AL> I wonder how to configure Ubuntu to let OTG port do exactly the same as ICS did ? |
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[07:09] <BV1AL> there are some demo on Youtube that they running Ubuntu on TI Blaze, how did they setup the external keyb/mouse ? |
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[07:11] <BV1AL> or the Ubuntu they do demo on Youtube different with the image they release for people to download ? |
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[07:13] <scientes> you need the usb port to be in host mode |
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[07:14] <BV1AL> I knew, so I plug in a microUSB with pin4-pin5 connected, this make it act as host |
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[07:14] <BV1AL> and this work as expected under ICS |
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[07:15] <scientes> well you need that serial port so you can read the kernel log |
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[07:15] <scientes> and then start sending in patches |
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[07:16] <scientes> when you fix it |
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[07:18] <BV1AL> is it possible to get the Ubuntu image some people demo successfully on TI Blaze ? |
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[07:18] <BV1AL> I think they did fixed it, otherwise hwo do they demo ? |
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[07:19] <scientes> i know nothing about that hardware |
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[07:19] <scientes> you have a page on the stats? |
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[07:20] <BV1AL> http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/OMAP4_Blaze |
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[07:21] <scientes> ooo thats pretty |
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[07:23] <LetoThe2nd> scientes: its TI's super-expensive omap4 dev platform |
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[07:24] <suihkulokki> fsov "super-expensive" |
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[07:24] <LetoThe2nd> ? |
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[07:26] <suihkulokki> if you actually are going to make an omap4 product, a blaze will be rounding error in the whole budget... |
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[07:26] <LetoThe2nd> sure, if you are into the omap4 production market thats totally irrelevant |
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[07:28] <LetoThe2nd> but there are those folks who want to just tinker around a bit on the omap, and compared to the panda its justified to call it expensive. |
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[07:30] <suihkulokki> well blaze isn't targeted for tinkerers |
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[07:31] <LetoThe2nd> i never said it was. i just called it expensive. :) |
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[08:09] <ogra_> blaze is a dual screen elephant cellphone ... only buy it if you also have the elephant to use it :P |
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[08:10] <phh> :) |
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[08:10] <phh> i didn't remember it could phone |
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[08:10] <ogra_> it has a SIM slot |
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[08:11] <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: not a SOM slit? |
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[08:11] <ogra_> not sure we ever had a driver ... |
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[08:12] <phh> but yeah, the blaze is here only for people who uses omap4 to complain to TI "see, it doesn't work for you either !" |
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[08:13] <ogra_> heh |
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[08:13] <phh> (yup that's from experience.) |
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[08:14] <ogra_> well, it was available before the panda at least ... without blazes the ubuntu port would have been a release later |
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[14:50] <ogra_> infinity, any opinion ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1113920/ |
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[14:57] <infinity> ogra_: .d is a misleading name for that directory. |
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[14:57] <ogra_> just /etc/flash-kernel/bootscript/ then ? |
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[14:57] <infinity> ogra_: One expects .d directories to be full of snippets that get reconstructed. |
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[14:57] <ogra_> k |
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[14:58] <infinity> ogra_: Yeah, just mirroring the layout in /usr/share with bootscript/ seems sane. |
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[14:58] <infinity> (Though, I wouldn't be against designing a .d system where one could drop in bits, it's probably overkill) |
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[14:59] <ogra_> my next step would be to make f-k-i cp the input file from /usr/share/flash-kernel/bootscript/ and make f-k check for its existence |
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[14:59] <infinity> Well, you just made f-k look for it. |
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[14:59] <ogra_> and after that we should look into setting root= from f-k-i so we arent depending on initrd's |
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[15:00] <infinity> Also, this doesn't necessarily need to be a directory in /etc at all. |
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[15:00] <infinity> Why break past assumptions? |
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[15:00] <infinity> Can't we just use /boot/$usname ? |
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[15:00] <ogra_> you mean reading /boot/boot.script ? |
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[15:00] <ogra_> no |
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[15:00] <ogra_> $usname differs from boot.script |
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[15:01] <ogra_> it carries the subarch name |
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[15:01] <infinity> Ahh, so it does. But that's fine. |
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[15:01] <infinity> It's still where people expected it to live. |
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[15:01] <infinity> And it's not a conffile. |
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[15:01] <ogra_> sure, but if we abuse /boot for configs again i would like to have backwards compatibility |
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[15:01] <infinity> *shrug* |
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[15:02] <ogra_> f-k-i should copy it from /usr/share/flash-kernel/bootscript/ to /boot/boot.script then |
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[15:02] <infinity> It's probably more correct to have it in /etc anyway. |
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[15:02] <ogra_> adn f-k should respect that |
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[15:02] <ogra_> why ? /etc is for configs or did that change |
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[15:02] <infinity> I was just thinking about people's assumptions, not about backward compat, per se. |
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[15:02] <ogra_> i was always shouted at for putting it into /boot |
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[15:02] <infinity> 09:02 < infinity> It's probably more correct to have it in /etc anyway. |
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[15:02] <infinity> ^-- I just said that. :P |
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[15:03] <ogra_> (though i still think its the most logical place) |
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[15:03] <infinity> Anyhow, drop the .d from that patch, and it seems sane enough to me. |
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[15:04] <ogra_> oh. sorry, misread more as not ... |
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[15:04] * ogra_ is melting, germany has a heatwave |
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[15:04] <ogra_> ok |
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[15:04] <infinity> Or maybe even just /etc/flash-kernel/$whatever |
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[15:04] <infinity> There's nothing else being shipped in that directory, seems weird to have an empty directory just to contain another one. |
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[15:05] <ogra_> yea, less typing ... i wasnt sure we wouldnt have other stuff in there in the future |
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[15:05] <infinity> Even if we do, the bootscr.platform stuff is well-named. |
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[15:05] <infinity> And it's not like you'll have 30 of them. |
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[15:05] <infinity> Not in /etc anyway. |
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[15:05] <ogra_> and i would like to prevent having to migrate configs around more than i have to for release upgrades |
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[15:05] <infinity> Since you should really only have the one for the platform you're running. |
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[15:06] <ogra_> ok, i'll cut it |
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[15:35] <ogra_> infinity, so steve just convinced me to use /etc/default/flash-kernel and there only stote the additional cmdline options ... and them make f-k append these on boot.scr generation |
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[15:36] <infinity> That works too. |
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[15:36] <infinity> I'm not picky. |
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[15:36] <ogra_> sure. just a bit more work |
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[15:36] <infinity> Though, I thought there was a drive in Debian to deprecate /etc/default in general for wheezy+1 |
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[15:37] <ogra_> that way we have an easy place to set root= too |
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[15:37] <ogra_> in favour of ? |
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[15:37] <infinity> Just making it go away. Not necessarily replacing it with anything. :P |
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[15:38] <ogra_> heh |
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[15:38] <ogra_> that doesnt sound well thought through |
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[15:44] <ogra_> rsalveti, any PVR news ? |
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[15:45] <rsalveti> ogra_: I just tested with latest compiz + precise unity and things seems to be working nicely |
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[15:45] <ogra_> YAY, one positive thing at least |
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[15:46] <rsalveti> there's still an annoying bug but at least it's not dumping anything at the sgx side |
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[15:46] <ogra_> (seems compiz is still not ready) |
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[15:46] <rsalveti> not yet, I'm using the branch people are still working on |
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[15:46] <rsalveti> but I must say I'm quite happy with the results |
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[15:46] <rsalveti> people are finally merging the stuff back |
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[15:46] <rsalveti> and fixing a few other issues as well |
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[15:46] <rsalveti> so I'll be working at getting the driver at ubuntu in a few, now that the linaro release is done |
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[15:46] <ogra_> well, as long asd it lands in the ubuntu packages i will be happy too :) |
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[15:47] <rsalveti> yeah, probably before feature freeze I'd say |
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[15:47] <ogra_> but compiz is pretty closely bound to feature freeze |
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[15:47] <ogra_> yeah |
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[15:47] <rsalveti> yup |
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[15:48] <infinity> Is this all still build-time selection, or have we moved on to runtime yet? |
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[15:48] <ogra_> compiz you mean ? |
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[15:48] <ogra_> that should be runtime since GLES is also available on some intel chips nowadays |
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[15:48] <infinity> The GL/EGL stuff in compiz, nux, and unity. |
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[15:48] <infinity> Yes, it *should* be runtime selected, but it wasn't in precise. :P |
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[15:48] <infinity> Hence the question. |
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[15:49] <ogra_> but i dont know how much the reality matches "should" :P |
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[15:49] <ogra_> i know it was disxcussed that way at UDS |
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[15:49] <rsalveti> hm, not that sure if this will land (runtime selection) at quantal |
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[15:50] <rsalveti> first thing I want to see is the code merged |
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[15:50] <ogra_> ++ |
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[15:50] <rsalveti> and not maintaining that huge patch set anymore |
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[15:50] <rsalveti> after that we can discuss new features ;-) |
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[15:50] <ogra_> ++++++++ ! |
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[15:51] <infinity> Fair enough. Just as long as runtime selection is on someone's radar. |
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[15:52] <infinity> Right now, it matters for x86. In the future, I bet it'll matter for some ARM platforms that decide to flip-flop back to pure GL. |
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[15:52] <ogra_> yup |
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[15:52] <infinity> (And we really need to sort out the QT GL/EGL thing sometime too, for similar reasons) |
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[15:52] <rsalveti> yup |
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[15:52] <infinity> Having that all build-time selected, and having to patch everything that links to QT is such a joke. |
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[15:53] <rsalveti> well, someone at Qt decided it was a good idea to let applications to render GL directly |
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[15:53] <rsalveti> while also using a GL-enabled Qt :-) |
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[15:53] <infinity> Well, you can't really stop people from using libGL directly. |
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[15:54] <rsalveti> which let people to do whatever they wanted |
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[15:54] <infinity> It's a shame that QT doesn't appear to provide a rich enough API that people feel they need to do so, though. |
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[15:54] <ogra_> sure you can. make it a symlink tolibGLES |
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[15:54] <rsalveti> don't know how it's not working with qt5, but I'd expect to be similar in some way |
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