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[00:04] <DystaN> Im using Ubuntu 12.04 and my compiz desktop cube is not working properly
[00:05] <DystaN> can anyone tell me if this is the proper installation method ?
[00:05] <DystaN> http://pastebin.com/untJ775S
[00:36] <DystaN> do you need emerald to run desktop cube on ubuntu 12.04 ???
[00:40] <DystaN> can someone give me an easy way to remapp my mouse buttons ?
[01:11] <thewrath> hello all
[01:11] <thewrath> i have a question
[01:11] <thewrath> about apache and name based virtual hosting
[01:38] <aeoril-mob> O/
[01:41] <DystaN> someone help me
[01:41] <DystaN> im using ubuntu 12.04 LTS trying to get compiz to work properly
[01:45] <DystaN> 3D windows are not working and the cube only leaves me with a flat screen that flips
[01:46] <DystaN> plus group windows and tabs seems to be defective
[02:03] <holstein> DystaN: i would expect breakage
[02:03] <DystaN> breakage ???
[02:03] <holstein> DystaN: compiz is customized for unity.. if you want desktops on a cube and all that, i would consider 10.04
[02:04] <holstein> OR, try using compiz in XFCE... im just telling you.. at the end of a few days piddling around with getting it all working, im using openbox now
[02:04] <DystaN> I had it almost working with 12.04
[02:05] <holstein> DystaN: i had it fully working
[02:05] <DystaN> why is it 10.04 better :
[02:05] <holstein> DystaN: i didnt say it was better
[02:05] <holstein> i implied it would be more appropriate out of the box for the older style of compiz it seems you are looking for
[02:06] <DystaN> well
[02:06] <DystaN> I just want the cube to be the cube
[02:06] <DystaN> and the plugins to work properly
[02:06] <DystaN> last instalation I had everything working but "group tabs'
[02:06] <holstein> DystaN: sure.. and they are.. they are working the way unity needs them to
[02:06] <holstein> DystaN: you can "undo" that, and get it back to "normal"
[02:07] <DystaN> last time I broke everything down
[02:07] <DystaN> and the screen went black
[02:07] <DystaN> so I had to reinstall everything
[02:07] <holstein> yup.. i broke it a few times as well
[02:07] <DystaN> lemme show you something
[02:07] <holstein> i got it working.. and decided it wasnt worth it.. and now im not doing it.. that doesnt mean you shouldnt
[02:07] <holstein> im just saying, it wont be easy, and you should expect breakage
[02:08] <DystaN> http://www.ubuntudicas.com.br/blog/2012/03/compiz-no-ubuntu-12-04/
[02:08] <DystaN> I installed it through terminal
[02:08] <DystaN> would that way be the complete one ?
[02:09] <holstein> it was similar to that when i did it.. i just had to tweak a bunch
[02:10] <DystaN> thats the hard part
[02:10] <DystaN> im a complete beginner on linux and ubuntu
[02:10] <holstein> yup.. id say, install and enjoy the normal 12.04
[02:11] <holstein> if you want cubes and fire, try the 10.04 CD... you can have that running live with most graphics hardware
[02:11] <DystaN> theres no way to enjoy it
[02:11] <DystaN> without the cuuube
[02:11] <holstein> i manage...
[02:12] <holstein> i hear you though... i had a simlar conversation with myself about this over a year ago when i saw everything changing
[02:12] <holstein> i just decided to go the other way with it
[02:12] <thewrath> hey all
[02:12] <DystaN> lol
[02:12] <DystaN> hello
[02:12] <thewrath> long time no see holstein
[02:12] <thewrath> stlsaint: hey buddy
[02:12] <holstein> its all open, you are free to tweak and do what you like.. you might find an ubuntu derivitive with cubes and fire DystaN
[02:12] <holstein> thewrath: o/
[02:13] <thewrath> holstein: i am using ubuntu for a web server and fedora for another. i have port 9000 external going to the ubuntu:80. it is not working is that because i am using name based virtual hosts?
[02:14] <holstein> thewrath: good question... i think thats a good place to start troubleshooting from.. an easier place
[02:14] <holstein> seems plausible
[02:18] <thewrath> that is what i figured
[02:18] <thewrath> as last night i did not have them
[02:19] <stlsaint> thewrath: hey man
[02:19] <thewrath> how has it been?
[02:19] <stlsaint> thewrath: chillin man. sup with you?
[02:19] <thewrath> i finally installed Ubuntu again in a VM using 12.04
[02:19] <thewrath> busy
[02:19] <thewrath> work has been killer
[02:19] <thewrath> lost power for 2.5 days after that huge storm that went from ohio beyond to the east coast
[02:20] <thewrath> stlsaint: do you if what i said is possible?>
[02:20] <stlsaint> is what possible?
[02:20] <thewrath> i am using ubuntu for a web server and fedora for another. i have port 9000 external going to the ubuntu:80. it is not working
[02:20] <thewrath> is that because i am using name based virtual hosts?
[02:21] <stlsaint> thewrath: why is 9000 going to port 80?
[02:22] <thewrath> because i have port forwarding set up
[02:22] <stlsaint> if you are doing virtual hosting than port numbers should notbe changed
[02:22] <thewrath> hmm
[02:22] <thewrath> i want to run 2 web servers
[02:22] <thewrath> let me remove teh virtual hosting
[02:23] <stlsaint> thewrath: naw, you should remove the port forwarding
[02:24] <stlsaint> apache works best when hosting off the same machine, IE: both servers run through ubuntu just in different dirs, and you setup apache vhost
[02:24] <thewrath> lol
[02:24] <thewrath> i am running fedora because of snort
[02:24] <thewrath> i use RH at work so fedora is close
[02:25] <stlsaint> oh ok, well run servers through fedora
[02:26] <thewrath> lol
[02:26] <thewrath> but i get better support in here with ubuntu lol
[02:26] <thewrath> i feel bad coming in here and talking about fedora
[02:26] <stlsaint> lol
[02:27] <thewrath> suggestions?
[02:28] <msdaisy> Hello. Does anyone know how to turn off logging in Ubuntu? I'm guessing you have to issue commands for each log, right? (sys, kern, ufw, etc)
[02:29] <thewrath> msdaisy: why would you want to do taht?
[02:29] <msdaisy> to learn how to control logging? To screw with my system? Just for fun?
[02:29] <thewrath> stlsaint: i forget do you have your own site?
[02:29] <thewrath> ok
[02:29] <stlsaint> msdaisy: sounds like you ;)
[02:30] <msdaisy> indeed.
[02:30] <msdaisy> lol
[02:30] <stlsaint> thewrath: i was running site for church. server is under maintenance right now though
[02:30] <thewrath> running ubuntu?
[02:30] <stlsaint> thewrath: i would suggest running everything via fedora. Scrap ubuntu all together if you are already familiar with RH
[02:30] <stlsaint> thewrath: proxmox
[02:31] <stlsaint> vps some running fedora, some debian, some ubuntu, some centOS
[02:31] <stlsaint> msdaisy: i actually dont know. I would google it cause ive never turned off logging lol
[02:31] <msdaisy> so thewrath, do you have any ideas on how to control the logging levels of various logs?
[02:31] <msdaisy> my google fu is totally broken right now. I'm getting no where. :(
[02:32] <stlsaint> msdaisy: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/75746
[02:33] <stlsaint> msdaisy: maybe that can get you started somewhere
[02:33] <msdaisy> LOL, I found that thread a little bit ago. It's kind of it but not really.
[02:33] <msdaisy> But thank you stlsaint
[02:34] <thewrath> msdaisy: no as i will not change
[02:35] <msdaisy> What if you wanted to change the log levels to verbose?
[02:35] <msdaisy> or uber-verbose?
[02:37] <stlsaint> msdaisy: have you glanced at logrotate manual?
[02:39] <msdaisy> yeah stlsaint, I *think* if you change the rotation duration to 0 it will not save any old logs.
[02:39] <msdaisy> But it will still log I believe.
[02:42] <stlsaint> msdaisy: we talking ubuntu server or ubuntu in general?
[02:42] <msdaisy> well both I guess stlsaint
[02:42] <msdaisy> because I'm certain it's at the command line level.
[02:46] <stlsaint> msdaisy: lol this is more difficult to figure out than i thought
[02:46] <msdaisy> I know! It wasn't even my question to begin with, but now it's like a personal thing between me and logging!
[02:47] <stlsaint> lol same here
[02:47] <DystaN> how can I remapp my mouse buttons on ubuntu 12.04 LTS ???
[02:47] <msdaisy> From my crappy google skills I have pieced together that I think you need to issue commands to stop each log individually stlsaint
[02:48] <msdaisy> Screw it- I'll just test logrotate and see what it does. I'll let you know stlsaint
[02:48] <stlsaint> DystaN: still do not know from the last time you asked ;)
[02:50] <DystaN> :D
[03:19] <nhandler> There probably isn't a "switch" you can flip to disable logging. Many applications handle it in different ways. Your best bet would be to do something crazy like turning your /var/log directory into a symlink to /dev/null or having it mounted read only. This would most likely prevent logs, but it would also probably cause a LOT of errors to be displayed and many applications to stop working properly
[03:23] <msdaisy> thanks nhandler
[03:27] <msdaisy> nhandler, Ok, so all applications need to write to the logs and they all handle it differently. Is that what you're saying?
[03:39] <thewrath> stlsaint: what is the link for the church website
[03:39] <thewrath> what software r u using
[03:42] <stlsaint> thewrath: right now site is down, its all done by hand, wife does it, no joomla or nothing
[03:43] <stlsaint> thewrath: but i use a turnkey linux LAMP template to handle all backend stuff, really nice
[03:44] <stlsaint> thewrath: http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lampstackhttp://www.turnkeylinux.org/lampstack
[03:44] <stlsaint> opps double posted link
[03:44] <stlsaint> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lampstack
[03:48] <stlsaint> out for night, thewrath hit me on email if you have anymore questions
[03:49] <thewrath> what is turnkeylinux?
[03:51] <msdaisy> go to the website he posted ^^
[03:55] <thewrath> i realized after i asked
[03:55] <thewrath> silly me that is why i did not follow it up with anything
[04:07] <DystaN> has anyone ended up with a flat screen that flips instead of the desktop cube in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[05:14] <DystaN> Hello , im new to linux and ubuntu can someone help me remapp my mouse ? Im using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
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[06:03] <not_found> stupid question... how do I easily download the whole folder "meetbot" from here - http://anonscm.debian.org/darcs/collab-maint/
[06:03] * not_found fails at basics
[06:09] * not_found finds out about darcs
[06:12] <Unit193> Why not try meetingology?
[06:13] <not_found> Unit193, dunno
[06:13] <Unit193> Fair enough.
[06:14] <not_found> I don't know much about IRC and meetings... found this googling so trying to set it up :)
[06:14] <Unit193> You can pull it, or maybe ask AlanBell for use of the official one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
[06:15] <Unit193> (Official is the one in #ubuntu-meeting)
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[08:06] <IlikeMoose> how do i find out if my pc supports usb 1.0 or 2.0 ?
[08:11] <philballew> IlikeMoose, how old is it?
[08:29] <DystaN> hello everyone
[08:31] <DystaN> is there any program to make remapping mouse buttons easier in Ubuntu 12.04 ??? How about a slide show for wallpapers ????
[08:41] <DystaN> does CreBS still work with Ubuntu 12.04 ???
[08:43] <krytarik> DystaN, in lack of a quick response here, you might better ask in #ubuntu.
[08:44] <krytarik> Or research it yourself in the first place, of course.
[08:51] <DystaN> I find my questions my be 2 stupid for real Ubunturers
[08:51] <DystaN> *might be
[08:52] <krytarik> DystaN, as for CreBS, just try it. As for a fancy program for remapping mouse buttons, that's not a stupid question at all.
[08:58] <DystaN> krytarik I tried installing CreBS , seemed to install ... cannot start it whatsoever
[08:59] <krytarik> DystaN, do you find its launcher then?
[08:59] <DystaN> cannot find it
[09:01] <krytarik> DystaN, what desktop session option are you using then?
[09:01] <DystaN> Ambience if yo urefer to theme
[09:02] <krytarik> Nope, I'm meaning Unity, Gnome Classic, Gnome Shell, or something else?
[09:02] <DystaN> Unity
[09:03] <krytarik> So you don't find CreBS in the Unity Dash?
[09:03] <DystaN> no sir
[09:03] <DystaN> it might be krebs
[09:03] <krytarik> No, it's really CreBS.
[09:03] <DystaN> hmmm
[09:04] <krytarik> How did you install it then?
[09:04] <DystaN> found a tutorial for making wallpaper slideshows
[09:04] <krytarik> Link?
[09:05] <DystaN> gave me 3 lines for terminal so I tried it
[09:05] <DystaN> http://www.howtogeek.com/?post_type=post&p=25549
[09:06] <krytarik> Sec.
[09:06] <matt_symes> IlikeMoose: try lsusb from the terminal.
[09:10] <krytarik> DystaN, there are no packages in the CreBS for the latest two Ubuntu versions, incl. Precise 12.04. And the source code hasn't been updated since July 2010 either.
[09:10] <krytarik> *Crebs PPA
[09:10] <krytarik> *CreBS PAA - :D
[09:11] <krytarik> Damn it! :D
[09:11] <DystaN> damn
[09:11] <DystaN> what in the name of monkey jesus did I install then ?
[09:12] <krytarik> Nothing, I reckon.
[09:12] <DystaN> :D three lines of nuthing
[09:12] <DystaN> nice
[09:13] <krytarik> It's not in the official repos of any Ubuntu version either, I should mention.
[09:15] <krytarik> DystaN, try searching for an alternative, I think there is one.
[09:24] <DystaN> krytarik foudn Wallich :D thanx Krytarik
[09:25] <krytarik> You're welcome. :)
[10:19] <DystaN> Using SKype , Ubuntu 12.04 , where do you Resize the Font of Chat Window ????
[10:20] * krytarik is not using Skype.
[10:20] <geirha> You should avoid the extraneous question marks. One is enough.
[10:21] <krytarik> +1
[10:21] <DystaN> geirha lol
[10:29] <Boogeyman> for remapping mouse buttons, i recommend btnx
[10:29] <Boogeyman> thats what i used in 11.04
[12:46] <stlsaint> thewrath: i was saying if you had any questions shoot me an email
[15:20] <raubvogel> Does anyone have an example of an iptable egress rule (allow to, say, connect to www.server.com:80 from a LAN) for a firewall?
[15:35] <escott> raubvogel, don't know if you have looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[15:36] <raubvogel> escott: I need something a bit more complex
[15:36] <raubvogel> But thanks
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