| [06:56] <dholbach> good morning | |
| [07:21] <dpm> morning | |
| [08:58] <dholbach> ajmitch, highvoltage: we might have to decide how we move forward with app showdown apps | |
| [08:58] <dholbach> as 'quickly package' will overwrite changes we ask for | |
| [09:13] <PaoloRotolo> Good morning | |
| [09:15] <dholbach> ciao PaoloRotolo | |
| [09:15] <PaoloRotolo> Hi dholbach :) | |
| [09:19] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, please, can you post a feedback on this app: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1151/ ? I've uploaded some fixes here: https://code.launchpad.net/~paolorotolo/ubuntu-app-reviews/variety :) | |
| [09:21] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, it seems like the app uses quickly too, so those changes would get overwritten too the next time it gets updated in the ppa :-/ | |
| [09:21] <dholbach> dpm: ^ meet PaoloRotolo, a tireless new helper in the app world :) | |
| [09:22] <dpm> heya PaoloRotolo, nice to meet you and welcome! :-) | |
| [09:22] <dpm> I saw some of your merge proposals already, good work! | |
| [09:22] <didrocks> hey hey | |
| [09:22] <dholbach> salut didrocks | |
| [09:22] <PaoloRotolo> dpm, hi, thanks! | |
| [09:22] <PaoloRotolo> hi didrocks | |
| [09:22] <didrocks> hey dholbach, PaoloRotolo! | |
| [09:22] <dholbach> didrocks, which of the changes in https://code.launchpad.net/~paolorotolo/ubuntu-app-reviews/variety/+merge/113424 should we be able to make in p-d-e itself? :) | |
| [09:23] <dholbach> bug 1002379 is already fixed or going to be fixed soon | |
| [09:23] <didrocks> dholbach: the DEP-5 one | |
| [09:23] <dholbach> bug 1020502 is already filed | |
| [09:23] <didrocks> ah :) | |
| [09:23] <dholbach> I'm not quite sure how to proceed in the .rtupdate case | |
| [09:24] <dholbach> and do you think we should file a bug about extending debian/copyright somehow? | |
| [09:24] <didrocks> why do you override dh_python2? | |
| [09:24] <dholbach> at least to document the problem somewhere | |
| [09:24] <dholbach> didrocks, it creates usr/share/python/runtime.d/*.rtupdate files | |
| [09:24] <didrocks> dholbach: I would prefer that we discuss that with all the other problems we saw recently on Monday | |
| [09:24] <didrocks> and see what could be done | |
| [09:24] <didrocks> yeah, but only on quantal? | |
| [09:24] <didrocks> dh_python2 is useful :) | |
| [09:24] <dholbach> I think I saw it in precise too | |
| [09:24] <didrocks> for having compiled .pyc I guess | |
| [09:25] <didrocks> the crashdb.conf is fixing in pde as well | |
| [09:25] <dholbach> I think that's all the problems I currently know of | |
| [09:25] <dholbach> so it's not too bad | |
| [09:25] <dholbach> let me do a test-build on precise and see what I get | |
| [09:25] <didrocks> yeah | |
| [09:26] <PaoloRotolo> didrocks, I override dh_python2 to fix this error: | |
| [09:26] <PaoloRotolo> E: Unallowed file usr/share/python/runtime.d/variety.rtupdate was found in | |
| [09:26] <PaoloRotolo> the package, which is created by dh_python2. To find out how to override | |
| [09:26] <PaoloRotolo> dh_python2, please have a look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach | |
| [09:26] <PaoloRotolo> /ubuntu-app-reviews/harvestwidget/revision/59 | |
| [09:26] <dholbach> it was introduced in python-defaults 2.7.2-5 | |
| [09:26] <didrocks> PaoloRotolo: right, but you mean that dh_python2 is useless then? | |
| [09:26] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, yes, I know - that was added to arb-lint before we knew about quickly rewriting things | |
| [09:29] <dholbach> didrocks, the same problem should be in precise as well (.rtupdate) | |
| [09:29] <didrocks> dholbach: hum ok | |
| [09:30] <didrocks> dholbach: I need to look at what this file is for exactly | |
| [09:30] <didrocks> dholbach: and see if we can make use of it | |
| [09:30] <didrocks> I think we should really spend time to ensure that everything works well frmo /opt | |
| [09:30] <didrocks> so that we have a requirement which really works | |
| [09:30] <dholbach> maybe we need a dh_extrasapp :-D | |
| [09:31] <didrocks> dholbach: yeah, maybe, I would be happy that we clearly look at that :) | |
| [09:31] <didrocks> dholbach: can you setup a hangout for Monday? | |
| [09:32] <dholbach> didrocks, so as far as I can see there are two issues which we don't have bugs for: 1) extending debian/copyright and 2) .rtupdate | |
| [09:32] <didrocks> with some people aware and deep into that? :) | |
| [09:32] <dholbach> didrocks, who would you want to have in the hangout | |
| [09:32] <didrocks> dholbach: it will be in French, of course :p | |
| [09:32] <didrocks> dholbach: don't really know, I don't know the arb members ;) probably you, david, already | |
| [09:32] <dholbach> bien sûr :) | |
| [09:34] <didrocks> people who knows about the requirements and exception, as well as different issues we have with it :) | |
| [09:34] <PaoloRotolo> didrocks, are you French :)? | |
| [09:35] <didrocks> PaoloRotolo: you never hear me talking I guess and my english accent, I'm clearly French :p | |
| [09:36] <dholbach> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-distutils-extra/+bug/1021207 | |
| [09:37] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, I'll update arb-lint to explain that this is something we should ignore for now | |
| [09:37] <PaoloRotolo> nice :) | |
| [09:38] <PaoloRotolo> dholbach, only in the quickly app, right? | |
| [09:39] <dholbach> PaoloRotolo, no, I fear it's a more general issue | |
| [09:41] <dholbach> didrocks, in which cases will p-d-e write the debian/copyright file? | |
| [09:42] <didrocks> for all apps where python-mkdebian --force-copyright is called | |
| [09:42] <didrocks> I added force-control, force-rules and force-copyright some years ago | |
| [09:42] <didrocks> and then, make them called by Quickly | |
| [09:42] <didrocks> I'm not sure anyone else but Quickly is using it | |
| [09:42] <dholbach> and in which cases are they called by quickly? always? or just for extras? | |
| [09:42] <didrocks> always | |
| [09:42] <dholbach> ok | |
| [09:43] <didrocks> as soon as you have to update the packaging | |
| [09:43] <didrocks> meaning release, share, package | |
| [09:43] <dholbach> gotcha | |
| [09:43] <didrocks> so | |
| [09:43] <didrocks> this rtupdate file | |
| [09:43] <didrocks> in fact, it's really interested | |
| [09:43] <didrocks> and definitively relocatable | |
| [09:43] <didrocks> we should have the dh_extraapp that dholbach is talking about :) | |
| [09:44] <didrocks> and moving the additional things we move that way | |
| [09:44] <didrocks> would be way more clean :) | |
| [09:44] <didrocks> this would support changing the prefix, moving files around and such | |
| [09:45] <didrocks> than, just adding dh --with extraapp to debian/rules | |
| [09:45] <didrocks> and the magic happens :) | |
| [09:45] <dholbach> I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-distutils-extra/+bug/1021216 | |
| [09:45] <dholbach> dpm, the list of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=arb is growing | |
| [09:46] <didrocks> dholbach: so no special check for rtupdate, the only check is that is should be installed in /opt | |
| [09:46] <dholbach> didrocks, but will it be run if it's located in /opt? | |
| [09:46] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, I saw that. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quickly/+bug/1018038 seems to be a critical one to me. Do you know if many people have hit that bug? | |
| [09:47] <dholbach> yes, a few | |
| [09:47] <dholbach> some fixed it after they saw the answer on AskUbuntu | |
| [09:47] <didrocks> dholbach: yeah | |
| [09:47] <didrocks> dholbach: it's just compiling .py to .pyc | |
| [09:47] <dholbach> didrocks, really? what's running it? | |
| [09:47] <didrocks> nothing | |
| [09:47] <didrocks> should be in the postinst | |
| [09:47] <dholbach> oh yeah? | |
| [09:48] <dholbach> will have a look | |
| [09:48] <dholbach> (if somebody could verify all the test-cases from the bugs in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-distutils-extra/+bug/1020017 and leave a comment on the individual bugs, that'd be nice) | |
| [09:49] <dpm> dholbach, I'll ask mterry if he can have a look when he's around later on. It's a pretty bad bug if we ask people to use submitubuntu and then the package fails to build | |
| [09:49] <dpm> Btw, does anyone know the answer to http://askubuntu.com/questions/159673/how-to-use-gsettings-from-opt - does Quickly take care of it? | |
| [09:50] <dholbach> didrocks, I see nothing in the postinst calling the .rtupdate file | |
| [09:50] <didrocks> dpm: it's easy to fix with current infra | |
| [09:50] <didrocks> dholbach: yeah, it needs to be set manually in postinst | |
| [09:51] <didrocks> dholbach: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-python@lists.debian.org/msg04587.html | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> oh | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> it's even worse | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> wow, people are going crazy :) | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> so we have this file | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> which should be executed in a postinst | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> BUT! | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> dh_python3 | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> is adding: f which py3compile >/dev/null 2>&1; then | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> py3compile -p unity-lens-radios /usr/share/unity-lens-radios | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> fi | |
| [09:53] <didrocks> so doing the same :) | |
| [09:54] <dholbach> I don't think I understand what's going on :) | |
| [09:54] <didrocks> dholbach: "it's a mess" is a good summary? :) | |
| [09:55] <dholbach> I think we've had the .rtupdate files much much much longer already | |
| [09:56] <didrocks> dholbach: yeah, but it was removed before, that was what barry told me last week | |
| [09:56] <didrocks> but this file is useless since dh_python it seems | |
| [09:56] <didrocks> basically, dh_python adds the same thing in postinst | |
| [09:57] <didrocks> (compiling the .py in .pyc if you project is not in a standard python directory) | |
| [09:58] <dholbach> aha! | |
| [09:58] <dholbach> the python and python3 maintainer scripts run it | |
| [09:59] <didrocks> but it's useless | |
| [09:59] <didrocks> as the postinst stenza is already doing the same | |
| [10:00] <didrocks> dholbach: I do not see any trigger? | |
| [10:00] <didrocks> ah, you mean in each libs | |
| [10:01] <dholbach> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076151/ | |
| [10:01] <dholbach> for python.p{re,ost}inst | |
| [10:01] <didrocks> dholbach: right, but this is only when you install python | |
| [10:01] <didrocks> see the thread I pointed to you, it confirms that | |
| [10:01] <didrocks> but then, there is no trigger | |
| [10:02] <didrocks> so if you install something afterward installing python | |
| [10:02] <dholbach> I would suggest we override dh_install with p-d-e for now and remove the file and be done with it :) | |
| [10:02] <didrocks> this files isn't used | |
| [10:02] <dholbach> and backport the change to precise as well :) | |
| [10:02] <didrocks> dholbach: yeah, it's not needed | |
| [10:02] <didrocks> dholbach: making this down as something to discuss on Monday? :) | |
| [10:02] <dholbach> or rather delete the whole directory :) | |
| [10:02] <didrocks> I'll try to grab more info to confirm that it's not needed anymore | |
| [10:02] <didrocks> (in our case) | |
| [10:04] * didrocks is out for some exercice, see you soon :) | |
| [10:04] <dholbach> didrocks, ah, maybe it's needed in case you upgrade to a new python | |
| [10:04] <didrocks> dholbach: hum, interesting… ;) | |
| [10:04] <dholbach> but then we just might have to update the python and python3 maintainer scripts to look into /opt as well | |
| [10:04] <didrocks> yeah | |
| [10:04] <dholbach> bugger bugger bugger | |
| [10:05] <didrocks> I need to try to compile with both :) | |
| [10:05] <dholbach> enjoy the exercise | |
| [10:05] <didrocks> and see how it behaves | |
| [10:05] <didrocks> thanks! | |
| [10:05] <dholbach> .rtupdate is a bad hack really :) | |
| [10:05] <didrocks> enjoy is not the correct them :p | |
| [10:05] <didrocks> well, /opt is as well | |
| [10:05] <didrocks> so 1-1 :) | |
| [10:05] <dholbach> haha | |
| [14:20] <dholbach> lp:~ubuntu-app-review-contributors/ubuntu-app-reviews/webbar ← got PPA info from myApps submission, downloaded last package, imported into branch and uploaded :-D | |
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