2012/06/27/#kubuntu.txt

[00:00] <judgen> I can not install KDE or kubuntu onto my ubuntu system. It claims that sip-8.1 is not available in the repos.
[00:00] <judgen> How do i proceed?
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[03:25] <L3top> sip-8? Is this an asterisk thing judgen?
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[04:59] <pehden> can one change the color to the kubuntu theme.
[05:01] <komodo69> System Settings --> Application Appearance
[05:01] <pehden> sweet
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[07:10] <Smurphy> Morning ...
[08:33] <anastasios> hello to all
[08:33] <anastasios> having a bit of trouble making my external monitor to work
[08:34] <anastasios> I have an Asus laptop with NVidia GeForce GT520m Cuda
[08:34] <anastasios> external monitor is not detected at all
[08:34] <anastasios> anyone who can give some pointers?
[08:35] <StarryNight> what kind of monitor if i may ask?
[08:35] <anastasios> LG Flatron IPS231
[08:36] <anastasios> google hasnt worked so far
[08:36] <anastasios> its been 2 days and I am starting to lose it
[08:36] <anastasios> :)
[08:37] <StarryNight> yea i google it atm and it does not show up
[08:37] <StarryNight> i been using a samsung
[08:37] <StarryNight> and i had no problem even with my laptop
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[08:38] <anastasios> google brought stuff such as Bumblebee, NVidia drivers, etc up but I am afraid I have failed miserably with all I've tried so far
[08:39] <anastasios> btw, is this even the right channel to be asking questions like this?
[08:39] <hateball> anastasios: Are you using the restricted driver or nouveau?
[08:40] <anastasios> hateball: no idea, how can I check this?
[08:41] <hateball> anastasios: well, one easy way is to try and run nvidia-settings, which is what comes with the restricted driver, and is also where you configure stuff like external monitors
[08:42] <hateball> anastasios: or run "jockey-kde" which is the restricted driver installer
[08:42] <anastasios> do you mean the NVidia X Server Settings?
[08:42] <qbit> one can also look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log for more info
[08:42] <anastasios> hateball: if you mean that, it came preinstalled and never worked properly
[08:43] <anastasios> hateball: right, right, I know that one. It is the Additional Drivers app
[08:43] <hateball> anastasios: for some settings to stick, you need to run "sudo nvidia-settings"
[08:44] <anastasios> hateball: let me try that
[08:44] <hateball> maybe it asks for sudo stuff within the gui these days... not sure
[08:49] <anastasios> hateball: "You do not appear to be using the NVidia X Driver. Please edit your X Configuration file (just run 'nvidia-sconfig' as root), and restart the X server"
[08:49] <anastasios> always get this one when I open the settings
[08:49] <anastasios> now
[08:50] <anastasios> each time I have tried to run sudo nvidia-xconfix, things get badly screwed up
[08:50] <hateball> well you should probably use jockey to install it properly
[08:52] <anastasios> hateball: yes, the problem is that jockey shows up empty with a "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[08:53] <anastasios> that was actually the very first thing I tried after my installation was compete
[08:53] <anastasios> *complete
[08:54] <anastasios> terminal says "ERROR: Could not fid any typelib for AppIndicator3" before "Additional Drivers" launches
[08:55] <anastasios> or actually it shows that at the same time "Additional Drivers" launches
[08:55] <anastasios> urgh...
[08:58] <hateball> anastasios: is your system fully up to date?
[08:59] <hateball> Also I have no experience with a CUDA chipset, so I dunno about the driver situation there
[08:59] <anastasios> looks like it and I am runnig 12.04
[08:59] <anastasios> I opted-in for updates while installing
[08:59] <anastasios> and I was connected to the internet
[09:00] <anastasios> urgh, this is my work computer and if I dont find a solution for this soon, I will have to take it back to IT and they will put Windows back in it
[09:00] <anastasios> yack
[09:01] <anastasios> if it was my personal laptop, wouldnt even think it as a big deal but at work I have to daily connect to external monitors
[09:01] <anastasios> shit
[09:02] <anastasios> I really thought this would be easy
[09:02] <hateball> What interface does it connect over?
[09:02] <hateball> VGA, DVI, HDMI?
[09:02] <anastasios> dvi
[09:03] <anastasios> well, laptop has HDMI and I am using a HDMI to DVI converter
[09:04] <anastasios> cause my monitor doesnt have HDMI input
[09:04] <anastasios> well, I need to run but I will be back in 20min
[09:05] <hateball> anastasios: Is this one of these machines with nVidia Optimus?
[09:05]  * hateball googles more
[09:06] <anastasios> well, some stuff I found on google kinda point to that direction
[09:07] <anastasios> but this is the very first time I hear about Optimus and though that Cuda and Optimus are different
[09:07] <anastasios> but could be the case
[09:07] <anastasios> just not sure about this
[09:08] <hateball> anastasios: I'm not sure if this could be of any help to you http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11911939&postcount=2
[09:09] <hateball> that is, add a ppa to grab the latest nvidia-driver
[09:09] <hateball> use at your own peril and all that
[09:09] <anastasios> of course, no worries
[09:10] <anastasios> well, that is something I can try
[09:10] <anastasios> will let you know
[09:10] <anastasios> of for 20min now
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[11:52] <openos> Helllo everybody
[11:53] <openos> I Dont Know Why I Cant install deb Packages In My Kubuntu
[11:58] <hateball> openos: Have you downloaded stuff manually instead of using Muon?
[12:02] <openos> Yes I have download google chrome manually
[12:05] <kroonrs> openos: how are you trying to install the .deb file you downloaded?
[12:06] <openos> Yes I Already Try To install it via gdebi But he tell me finished but nothing installed
[12:07] <openos> via gdebi
[12:08] <kroonrs> openos: can you use the command line (I don't know gdebi)
[12:09] <anastasios> hateball: for the record, the solution for the external monitor didnt work
[12:10] <hateball> anastasios: :/
[12:10] <anastasios> thanks for the support though
[12:10] <anastasios> :)
[12:10] <hateball> anastasios: I guess asking on the forum may be something to try then
[12:10] <anastasios> yep, I will try that
[12:11] <anastasios> I discovered in the meanwhile that there is a bug report open about this
[12:11] <anastasios> and that it is related to certain nvidia cards
[12:12] <anastasios> will be trying bumblebee next which feels like the next best thing to do
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:16] <kroonrs> Hi
[12:20] <BluesKaj> hey kroonrs
[13:15] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel_: are you there?
[13:32] <anastasios> right
[13:33] <anastasios> I found this which looks promising now but I need someone to break it down for me a bit
[13:33] <anastasios> Okay so I finally got it working, so I'm posting my solution for others.
[13:33] <anastasios> The problem was indeed the nVidia Optimus card. So I went into the BIOS, set this to Discrete mode, and disable OS detection feature.
[13:33] <anastasios> After rebooting, I installed the nVidia driver in additional drivers, rebooted again, and I was (finally) able to access this nvidia-settings panel and get my second monitor workign !
[13:33] <anastasios> Cheers
[13:33] <FloodBotK1> anastasios: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <anastasios> shit
[13:33] <anastasios> sorry about that
[13:33] <hateball> anastasios: Cool :)
[13:34] <anastasios> well, thing is I have not tried it yet since I can figure out the BIOS part but the rest I am not really sure how to do
[14:08] <yofel_> phoenix_firebrd: now I am
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[14:08] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: hi
[14:08] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: have some time?
[14:09] <yofel> "some" yes, what's the problem?
[14:09] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: need the crash log for kde 4.9-microblog app-twitter crash
[14:10] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302267
[14:10] <ubottu> KDE bug 302267 in widget-microblogging "Plasma applet Microblogger doesn't work, crashes the plasma-desktop sometimes" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo]
[14:10] <yofel> when it crashes drkonqi should give you the backtrace
[14:11] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: not happening here
[14:12] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: trying once more
[14:14] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: no use. Previously it showed up one, some debugging symbols were missing, so i installed it and retried , it is not working
[14:15] <yofel> does plasma actually still crash, or does it just not work?
[14:15] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: plasma crashes, but not always
[14:16] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: the thing is the app is not able to show twitter twits, the crash is not relevent
[14:17] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: how did you authorize your app for twitter
[14:17] <BluesKaj> eeeuuw ...can't live without twits :)
[14:18] <yofel> wait, from my POV, the crash, and the fact that it doesn't work a 2 seperate issues
[14:18] <yofel> (it doesn't work for me either)
[14:18] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: i think know why it doesnt fetch the twits
[14:19] <yofel> file a bug about that and explain it there
[14:19] <yofel> (for the crash maybe quit plasma, and restart it from krunner to make sure it's not called with --nocrashhandler)
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: i got drkonq
[14:21] <yofel> good, backtrace usable?
[14:22] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: 3 stars , sufficient? i will paste it here now
[14:23] <yofel> 3 stars is as good as it gets
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/508892/
[14:24] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: ok shall i attach it to the bug report?
[14:25] <yofel> yes please
[14:25] <yofel> looks fine
[14:25] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: on my way
[14:29] <als-it-net-pc> thank you all.....okay.....good by
[14:32] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: done
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[17:34] <simplew> i have started KDE but the gnomeand gtk apps appear with fonts too BIG, but i did set then in gnome with size 8, so why now in KDE they appear as if the fonts were as size 16 ?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> simplew, open system settings>application appearance>GTK+Appearnce
[17:39] <simplew> BluesKaj: i did doesnt make any difference, but im running linuxmint
[17:40] <BluesKaj> simplew, ask in linuxmint , their settings may be different
[17:40] <simplew> BluesKaj: seams they are lost
[17:40] <BluesKaj> #linuxmint chat
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[17:42] <ebisky> Hi, I am looking to switch to Kubuntu from fedora. Does Kubuntu have an updated livecd version with all the security patches and updates after the release - somewhat like Fedora's updated livecds here: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/
[17:43] <Peace-> ebisky: well there is a daily build
[17:43] <Peace-> ebisky: i am using 12.10 that is alpha
[17:44] <Peace-> with kde 4.9 and kernel 3.5
[17:44] <ebisky> Peace-, isnt the daily build likely to have some instability
[17:44] <Peace-> ebisky: updated system = instable system
[17:45] <Peace-> ebisky: for normal user i reccomend  12.04
[17:45] <Peace-> after you have installed
[17:45] <Peace-> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:45] <Peace-> and you are done
[17:45] <Peace-> 12.04 it's rock solid
[17:46] <Peace-> ebisky: btw i have 12.10 without issue , of course this could be my own case
[17:46]  * Peace- if you use alpha you could lost data
[17:47] <ebisky> Peace-, thanks, the updating process takes forever after install. I am not on a particularly fast or high bandwidth network so I usually prefer that I download some "final version" and don't have to worry about running updates for a couple months at least. I really prefer not starting a couple hour updates immediately after installing.
[17:47] <Peace-> ebisky: you can use 12.04 without upgrade
[17:47] <Peace-> it's 5 years that i use kubuntu
[17:47] <ebisky> you think its fine?
[17:47] <Peace-> and i have never had securety issue
[17:47] <Peace-> yes
[17:47] <ebisky> Well -that is really good to hear.
[17:48] <Peace-> i have 2 root
[17:48] <simplew> Peace-: where do i get 12.10?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> ebisky, I run 12.04 and have had very few update/upgrades since the officiual releas , and most have been small
[17:48] <Peace-> with /home shared
[17:49] <ebisky> Peace-, BluesKaj, thanks very much for your opinions. :)
[17:49] <ebisky> Can't wait to switch.
[17:49] <Peace-> simplew: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[17:49] <Peace-> simplew: dailyt
[17:49] <ebisky> fedora sucks the life out of everything
[17:49] <simplew> ebisky: what?
[17:49] <Peace-> simplew: sorry daily live
[17:49] <BluesKaj> ebisky, it's not an opinion , that's been my experience
[17:53] <Peace-> => 12.10 alpha simplew http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/27/plasma-desktopji1697.png
[18:16] <ronrom> where is the package kde-gtk-config
[18:29] <BluesKaj> ronrom, it should be installed by default, look in kcmshell4
[18:30] <ronrom> BluesKaj: you are wrong
[18:31] <ronrom> BluesKaj: i even neeeded to add another repo, see https://launchpad.net/~tehnick/+archive/kde-gtk-config
[18:31] <BluesKaj> ronrom, odd because I have it installed , it's in the repos
[18:32] <ronrom> BluesKaj: what you have its another
[18:32] <ronrom> BluesKaj: and that one at least doesnt do any in linuxmint
[18:32] <ronrom> i nedeed to install this one
[18:34] <lordievader> Good evening
[18:35] <lompocus> Good Morning
[18:35] <ronrom> how can i configure synaptic to search only by name by default ?
[18:35] <lordievader> Hey lompocus, how are you?
[18:35] <lompocus> glorious, how did you get orange text :P
[18:36] <BluesKaj> ronrom, this what I have installed kde-config-gtk , onfiguration module for GTK+ appearance in KDE, 2:0.5.3-1ubuntu3
[18:37] <BluesKaj> ronrom, just paste  kde-config-gtk in the search in synaptic
[18:38] <ronrom> BluesKaj: i asked how can i do to have only the search for name by default instead having to search by name-description
[18:39] <ronrom> BluesKaj: add the repo and install package kde-config-gtk-style  to see what i mean
[18:39] <BluesKaj> kde-config-gtk is an actual name
[18:39] <ronrom> its a far better interface to confugyre gtk and gnome apps
[18:39] <ronrom> BluesKaj: thats another man
[18:39] <ronrom> BluesKaj: listen what other say
[18:40] <BluesKaj> ronrom, you do what you want , if you already know the answer whay do you ask ?
[18:41] <ronrom> BluesKaj: ;)
[18:42] <ronrom> BluesKaj: but now i need how to change synaotic to search only by name by default
[18:43] <BluesKaj> I tried to answer your question in an honest manner , if you don't like my answers then too bad , as for synaptic it's a gtk /gnome app , go ask in #ubuntu
[18:43] <BluesKaj> ronrom,^\
[18:46] <ronrom> BluesKaj: sorry i didnt mean to offend
[18:46] <xenoph> Greetings. I have just installed Kubuntu. On my first attempt, I had no GRUB upon reboot - it would boot straight into Kubuntu. After attempting to use Boot Repair, I received a 'error: invalid arch independent ELF magic'. I then proceeded to re-install on my sda hdd (previous was on sdb). This time I have a GRUB, but I have no option for Windows 7. Any ideas please?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> xenoph, run sudo update-grub
[18:48] <lordievader> xenoph: You didn't accidentily wipe your drive, I hope?
[18:48] <xenoph> Ah, I have. Sorry, should've mentioned. Upon running that, it tells me that it finds linux image, initrd image and memtest86+ image.
[18:48] <xenoph> I still have a 'Basic data partition' when checking my file systems - which contains all my Windows folders&files.
[18:49] <BluesKaj> xenoph, try sudo os-prober, then sudo update-grub again
[18:49] <xenoph> Same result as previously.
[18:50] <BluesKaj> xenoph, if there's no windows OS grub won't pick it up
[18:50] <xenoph> There is. Or should be. I've had one up to the point where I started installing Kubuntu, at least.
[18:51] <xenoph> And since my first install was on the sdb hdd (which does not contain my Windows), I would've thought that the sda hdd had been left working.
[18:51] <andreas_> hallo
[18:51] <andreas_> ist jemand online ?
[18:52] <lordievader> andreas_: Hey, do you happen to be german?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> xenoph, does the other hdd show up in dolphin places as an entry
[18:53] <lordievader> !german | andreas_
[18:53] <ubottu> andreas_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!
[18:53] <andreas_> moment muss übersetzen
[18:53] <xenoph> Sorry, 'as an entry'? As in showing on the right hand side?
[18:53] <xenoph> Er, left hand side.
[18:53] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:53] <xenoph> Yes, it's showing as 'Basic data partition'.
[18:54] <jarle> I keep seeing "NetworkManager[1782]: <info> Unmanaged Device found; state CONNECTED forced." in /var/log/messages (Kubuntu 12.04) all google results are several years old...
[18:54] <BluesKaj> I have 2 hdds and all show up as entries on dolphin places
[18:54] <jarle> any help?
[18:55] <xenoph> All my hdd partitions are currently showing up. sdb is divided into two partitions, both showing up by names. My c: as 'Basic data partition' as said.
[18:56] <xenoph> Everything seems to be there, and I've not done anything to it. Apart from resizing the disk for the install, of course. But I had the same issue of no GRUB/Windows before I did my second install as well.
[18:57] <lordievader> xenoph: In the bios from what drive are you booting, in other words on what drive is grub installed.
[18:58] <xenoph> It is installed on sda.
[18:58] <xenoph> Or it should, at least, as that's what I chose during the installation.
[18:59] <BluesKaj> xenoph, you may be able to get the windows mbr to show if you boot with a kubuntu live cd and restore grub with it ..but usually the mbr isn't hidden after a kubuntu install
[18:59] <lordievader> xenoph: As a last resort you could try to reinstall the windows bootloader, with that wiping grub, and then restoring grub again.
[19:02] <xenoph> I was considering reinstalling the mbr. Should I after doing that (if successful, of course) just run the live cd and restore grub?
[19:03] <lordievader> xenoph: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[19:06] <xenoph> Thanks.
[19:06] <lordievader> xenoph: No problem, but consider it a last resort.
[19:07] <xenoph> Well, with update-grub not recognising Windows, I'm unsure what else to do.
[19:08] <BluesKaj> jarle, so are you connected to the 'net eevn tho you're getting that message ?
[19:10] <jarle> BluesKaj: yes, (I have manually configured /etc/network/interfaces)
[19:11] <BluesKaj> jarle, ok , then you may want to remove network manager because it will overwrite your network/interface settings , unless you plan on using wifi
[19:12] <jarle> BluesKaj: I won't be using wifi, I'm just using a static IP, however I would like to have a nice GUI to enable/disable VPN...
[19:13] <xenoph> exit
[19:13] <xenoph> ....
[19:13] <xenoph> Such a fail way of leaving. :) Thanks for the help, off to attempt to fix.
[19:14] <BluesKaj> jarle, kvpn
[19:16] <BluesKaj> err kvpnc
[19:17] <jarle> BluesKaj: thnks.
[19:44] <xenoph> Greetings again. I've attempted to re-install the mbr by using a Windows 7 disk, and following different directions - mostly to use bootrec.exe and its options. So far, no luck. However, whenever I press F12 to see my boot options, I can chose between Ubuntu and Windows Boot Loader (may or may not be just when I have the Windows 7 restore disc in, I can't remember).
[19:50] <rosiu_> Why so quiet here?
[19:51] <lordievader> rosiu_: Is it?
[19:51] <lordievader> xenoph: The windows 7 cd can automatically detect other bootloaders and remove them, Microsoft only likes their own bootloaders.
[19:53] <xenoph> lordievader: Yeah. I've not had issues reinstalling the mbr before though - but I'm not sure I'm doing what I normally have done. I've used bootrec.exe with /FixMbr and... /FixBoot (I think) options.
[19:54] <lordievader> xenoph: Those usually did the trick, not sure if they did in Win7, can't remember, did you try booting to windows after resoring the mbr?
[19:55] <xenoph> lordievader: After using those, I attempted to reboot (twice), and every time I got into grub, which still only had Ubuntu as an option.
[19:56] <lordievader> xenoph: So the restore of the Win7 bootloader failed, you should probably fix that first.
[19:59] <xenoph> lordievader: Is anything related to sda1 being a fat32 partition with /boot/efi? When I attempted to use the Boot Repair earlier, I faintly remember either a warning about 'efi'. Or just a notification, I'm unsure.
[20:00] <lordievader> xenoph: I'm not sure either.
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[20:16] <BluesKaj> !hud
[20:16] <ubottu> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS includes the first step in a major new approach to application interfaces, the Head-Up Display, or HUD, which will ultimately replace menus in Unity applications. See http://ubottu.com/y/hud for the background on this and discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:49] <xenoph> According to bootrec.exe /ScanOs I have no Windows installation on my hdds. By pressing F12 in the startup to select my boot, I have a choice between Ubuntu and Windows Boot Loader (I believe that was the name). If I don't press F12, it'll go straight to grub with just Ubuntu as an option. Windows Boot Loader, however... loads Windows. Which I don't have on my system.
[20:50] <xenoph> Fantastic.
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[23:28] <wellington> Olá ?
[23:28] <wellington> Olá?