| [07:33] * agateau answers day old irc pings now | |
| [07:33] <agateau> shadeslayer: yes, I am coming to Akademy | |
| [07:34] <agateau> Riddell: I've been exclusively using lightdm-kde for a long time now, I consider it solid. It still lacks the lock-after-autologin feature from kdm though, but I know David Edmundson has a plan for it, ping him. | |
| [07:36] <agateau> yofel_: that bug with the lightdm classic greeter is probably due to a bug in the plasma components it uses. In the "User Bar" theme we actually have fixed copies of the TextField component to fix keyboard handling | |
| [07:36] <agateau> yofel_: the fixes are in KDE 4.9, so it should work correctly there | |
| [07:39] <Riddell> agateau: did you see the bugs which debfx had? | |
| [07:40] <agateau> Riddell: mmm no | |
| [07:40] <Riddell> by default it wants to log into a previous session which doesn't work | |
| [07:40] <agateau> oh | |
| [07:40] <agateau> I haven't been active on lightdm for a while now, it may be fixed already | |
| [07:41] <agateau> but I remember something like this | |
| [07:41] * agateau checks | |
| [07:41] <Riddell> agateau: can you get the language box to contain some options? it's entirely empty for me | |
| [07:42] <agateau> Riddell: oh yes, that one as well | |
| [07:44] <agateau> Riddell: reading the log of david work right now: he "fixed" the language box by removing it | |
| [10:15] <Riddell> ug Debian's owncloud packages don't install mysql and don't set up a mysql database for you | |
| [10:20] <shadeslayer> agateau: awesome, you can teach me everything about KSNI and App Indicator | |
| [10:20] <agateau> shadeslayer: first thing to learn: KSNI == App Indicator | |
| [10:20] <shadeslayer> right, knew that :P | |
| [10:20] <Riddell> ug and then it doesn't even set up right | |
| [10:20] <agateau> shadeslayer: there I just reduced your teaching to half :) | |
| [10:20] <shadeslayer> haha | |
| === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz | |
| [10:59] <jussi> Riddell: I find kamerka much lighter and nicer UI IMHO. However, it does not (yet) do video. | |
| [10:59] <jussi> (in regards to the seed change) | |
| [11:00] <Riddell> can't say I've heard of it | |
| [11:02] <jussi> !info kamerka | |
| [11:02] <ubottu> kamerka (source: kamerka): shiny photo taking application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-1 (precise), package size 96 kB, installed size 318 kB | |
| [11:02] <jussi> Riddell: install and try it | |
| [11:04] <jussi> Riddell: iirc, Kamerka is written with QML | |
| [11:05] <Riddell> mm, shiny indeed | |
| [11:05] <Riddell> afiestas_: how do you think they compare? | |
| [11:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: don't forget about kde-telepathy message-indicator! | |
| [11:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ofcourse not, I've deferred it till Akademy where I'll talk to agateau about implementation details | |
| [11:20] <shadeslayer> then I'll have a better idea of what needs to be done | |
| [11:20] <apachelogger> talking about deferred | |
| [11:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: do we have data yet? | |
| [11:20] * shadeslayer runs off to /dev/null | |
| [11:22] <Riddell> data? | |
| [11:22] <shadeslayer> I sent you the data, but you were not satisfied, I also have lost interest in gathering said data | |
| [11:22] * shadeslayer is on a coding spree | |
| [11:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fwiw call ui now has phonon integration as well, but the phonon KCM is all sorts of broken | |
| [11:23] <shadeslayer> kde bug 302308 | |
| [11:23] <apachelogger> the phonon kcm was designed to support runtime backend switching == the phonon kcm is broken by design | |
| [11:23] <ubottu> KDE bug 302308 in general "kcm_phonon does not update device list even when a existing/new device is plugged in" [Normal,New: ] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302308 | |
| [11:24] <shadeslayer> heh | |
| [11:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fix eet | |
| [11:24] * apachelogger was under the impression the pulse overlay does plug listening | |
| [11:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, you are working on runtime anyway | |
| [11:24] <shadeslayer> wait ... I am? when did that happen | |
| [11:24] <apachelogger> you just need to register to some pulse signal or osmething | |
| [11:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kio streaming? | |
| [11:30] <shadeslayer> ah yes | |
| [11:30] <shadeslayer> Seems like I've got my hands in too many things :P | |
| [11:32] <apachelogger> srsly? :P | |
| [11:32] * Peace- has compiled ffmpeg successfully on quantal | |
| [11:32] * Peace- happ | |
| [11:32] <Peace-> y* | |
| [11:33] * apachelogger tired and sticky | |
| [11:33] <apachelogger> kubotu: order shower | |
| [11:33] * kubotu slides shower down the bar to apachelogger | |
| [11:33] * Peace- feel sorry for apachelogger | |
| [11:33] <apachelogger> pff | |
| [11:33] <Peace-> feels | |
| [11:34] <apachelogger> yesterday it was like super hawt, then it started raining now it is super hawt and super humid | |
| [11:36] <Peace-> here there is 39 degree | |
| [11:36] <Peace-> wtf | |
| [11:38] <shadeslayer> hah! | |
| [11:39] <shadeslayer> It's something like 45 degrees here | |
| [11:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fwiw I still couldn't get the KIO stuff to work | |
| [11:45] <shadeslayer> I didn't get the right debug messages | |
| [11:46] <shadeslayer> I'll look into it next week | |
| [11:47] * apachelogger points out htat 4.9 is closing in :/ | |
| [11:47] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so, what's with the data? | |
| [11:47] <shadeslayer> not really interested :( | |
| [11:48] <apachelogger> good thing I waited 2 or was it 3 months then | |
| [11:48] <apachelogger> <- not happy, not at all | |
| [11:48] <shadeslayer> yeah, sorry about that | |
| [11:48] <Riddell> what data is this? | |
| [11:48] * shadeslayer is not motivated enough to collect data | |
| [11:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: data about where we spend most of our dev time | |
| [11:48] <shadeslayer> and where we can improve | |
| [11:49] <Riddell> mm, tricksy | |
| [11:51] <apachelogger> well then | |
| [11:51] <apachelogger> how about some mangement overhead? :D | |
| [11:54] <Riddell> not something kubuntu has ever had is that | |
| [11:54] <apachelogger> just about time | |
| [12:05] <shadeslayer> any ideas what library I should link against for kdeui and kdecore? | |
| [12:05] <shadeslayer> -lkdeui -lkdecore doesn't seem to be working | |
| [12:05] <Riddell> mm, libkdeui and libkdecore? | |
| [12:05] <shadeslayer> ok | |
| [12:05] <Riddell> in cmake? | |
| [12:06] <shadeslayer> configure.in ... | |
| [12:06] <shadeslayer> don't ask ... | |
| [12:06] <Riddell> umm | |
| [12:07] <Riddell> well /usr/lib/libkdecore.so and /usr/lib/libkdeui.so are there | |
| [12:07] <shadeslayer> like I said .. don't ask :P | |
| [12:07] <shadeslayer> yeah, the project was linking against kdeui and kdecore | |
| [12:07] <shadeslayer> was missing libs | |
| [12:40] <apachelogger> braindumps ftw | |
| [12:42] * markey dumps brain | |
| [12:43] <markey> mmmmh brainz | |
| [12:47] <apachelogger> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/zombie-apocalypse-are-bath-salts-to-blame/2012/06/07/gJQAsYL3LV_blog.html | |
| [13:10] <BluesKaj_> Hey all | |
| === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter | |
| [16:23] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1005677] Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widg... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1005677 (by Doug McMahon) | |
| [16:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1005677 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)'"" [High,Confirmed] | |
| [16:50] <ScottK> BTW, Debian finally uploaded kde4libs 4.8.4 to Unstable, so that's a good source of what patches are really needed if someone wants to resume work on 4.8.4 for precise. | |
| [16:57] <debfx> ScottK: 4.8.4 is already in the updates PPA | |
| [16:58] <debfx> we should probably lift it to -proposed soon | |
| [16:58] <ScottK> debfx: With the fixed kde4libs? | |
| [16:58] <debfx> yes | |
| [16:59] <ScottK> Ah. Let's go then. | |
| [16:59] <ScottK> If someone can upload them, I'm in ubuntu-sru now, so I can accept them. | |
| [17:02] * debfx has another look at kubuntu-ppa bugs first | |
| [17:06] <debfx> I suppose we don't have a script to push packages from the updates ppa to -proposed? | |
| [17:06] <debfx> yofel_, Riddell ^ | |
| [17:06] <ScottK> apachelogger: ^^^ | |
| [17:10] <shadeslayer> afaik no | |
| [17:47] <BluesKaj_> later all , stuff to do | |
| [20:07] <yofel_> debfx: afaik no, at least not from me | |
| [20:08] <yofel_> can you cherry pick http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=kdelibs.git&a=commit&h=808914aff663636e602fd6b60d6040bf0001e462 btw. ? That really removes the Hibernate button from plasma | |
| [20:11] <genii-around> Perhaps someone may know offhand.. if there is some known bug with 3.4,3.5 64 bit kernels and Atom N450. I get odd error messages. | |
| [20:22] <yofel_> #ubuntu+1 would be more helpful I guess | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | |
| [20:23] <shadeslayer> or for that matter, #ubuntu-kernel | |
| [20:25] <genii-around> Hm | |
| [20:52] <debfx> yofel: to precise? | |
| [20:52] <yofel> yes, for 4.9 it'll be in rc1 | |
| [20:52] <yofel> but we got bug reports about hibernate not working as we disabling it in policykit, and plasma ignored that | |
| [20:52] <yofel> *we're | |
| [20:53] <yofel> er, solid ignored it | |
| [20:53] <debfx> appShouldConserveResources() is called to check if hibernation is allowed? | |
| [20:54] <yofel> wait | |
| [20:55] <yofel> debfx: sorry, I'm too tired today -.- I meant http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=c78a108ae304a42c0507f2ae962ba186f10426f6 | |
| [20:56] <yofel> thanks a lot for taking a look | |
| [20:57] <debfx> that looks more plausible ;) | |
| [20:57] <debfx> I wonder what that kdelibs commit fixes, the commit message is not very verbose | |
| [21:14] <Ezim> why are not kubuntu-netrunner working togheter? netrunner developer is same person that also is behind blue system. correct? | |
| [21:16] <BluesKaj> Ezim, yup | |
| [21:17] <Ezim> BluesKaj: good. then drop kubuntu and join netrunner :)... maybe leave buntu based and go over to debian. | |
| [21:18] <BluesKaj> Ezim, I tried netrunner ..it's ok , but nothing special from what could see. A stable kubuntu based OS | |
| [21:19] <Ezim> BluesKaj: it is kubuntu :). I know that. but why netrunner-kubuntu, when same company supports both. | |
| [21:19] <BluesKaj> pretty plain vanilla , nothing exciting going on | |
| [21:20] <BluesKaj> stability is the philosophy , I believe | |
| [21:21] <Ezim> BluesKaj: stability is good, then why not direct base kubuntu on debian? | |
| [21:22] <BluesKaj> dunno , it's a compiliation of tried and true apps and driver for ppl who don't want any "issues". | |
| [21:23] <Ezim> BluesKaj: driver and apps are avaible in debian to :) | |
| [21:23] <BluesKaj> debian's permissions system is goofy | |
| [21:23] <Ezim> almost everything that buntu uses comes from upstream and often that is debian. | |
| [21:25] <BluesKaj> Ezim, you can say the same thing about ubuntu all of it's derivatives | |
| [21:25] <Ezim> BluesKaj: :) yeah my question was towards kubuntu, not the other buntu. | |
| [21:26] <BluesKaj> well, it's kde , some ppl prefer kde to the other desktops | |
| [21:27] <Ezim> BluesKaj: exactly. :) | |
| [21:27] <ScottK> Ezim: Kubuntu is stability, but not acient. | |
| [21:27] <Ezim> ScottK: debian testing is also stable and not acient :). | |
| [21:27] <ScottK> If you want to run KDE 4.4 in 2012, then Debian Squeeze is a good choice. | |
| [21:28] <BluesKaj> netrunner doesmn't use some of the default kubuntu apps , it even uses some gtk apps by default | |
| [21:28] <ScottK> That's a mix of 4.7 and 4.8 right now. | |
| [21:38] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1011400] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: lectura insuficiente en buf... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1011400 (by Manuel) | |
| [21:38] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1011400 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: lectura insuficiente en buffer_copy para error en dpkg-deb durante `./usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4.8.1'" [Undecided,New] | |
| [21:41] <debfx> kubotu: why do you only post useless bug reports? | |
| [21:52] <debfx> yofel: is there a launchpad bug for the polkit hibernation issue? | |
| [21:52] <shadeslayer> pkgkde-symbolshelper seems a bit busted | |
| [21:54] <yofel> debfx: bug 989652 against kubuntu-ppa is what I remember | |
| [21:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 989652 in Kubuntu PPA "Hibernate only locks the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/989652 | |
| [21:59] <debfx> ok | |
| [22:24] <shadeslayer> I've been meaning to ask, what does this : +#MISSING: 0.4.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1# _ZN6Attica8Metadata7PrivateD1Ev@Base 0.4.0 : signify? | |
| [22:25] <shadeslayer> the MISSING part I mean | |
| [22:25] <shadeslayer> nvm ... debian has docs on this :| | |