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[00:03] <mars> SpamapS, alright. I need to sign off. Thanks for looking at my problem. I'll watch the bug for a fix that I can test. |
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[00:05] <SpamapS> mars: should be soon I think. :) |
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[00:35] <hazmat> SpamapS, back |
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[00:36] <hazmat> there are some pyzk bugs with fixes in trunk that haven't been backported / packaged but nothing relatable |
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[00:37] <SpamapS> hazmat: seems odd that after a while it would go from lazy polling to furious reconnecting |
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[00:37] <hazmat> mars, is zookeeper running? |
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[00:37] <SpamapS> hazmat: anyway, I say we just stop trying to start agents that will never work |
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[00:37] <hazmat> ps aux | grep java |
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[00:37] <SpamapS> hazmat: the whole point is that zk is not running |
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[00:37] <hazmat> SpamapS, so two options make local envs survive restarts, or remove upstarts for all of them |
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[00:45] <SpamapS> hazmat: well I'd like them to survieve |
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[00:45] <SpamapS> hazmat: seems that we'd need to re-start zookeeper and it would work |
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[00:46] <SpamapS> hazmat: oh, and the containers. ;) |
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[00:46] <SpamapS> hazmat: either way, the half-done bit needs to go |
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[00:46] <SpamapS> hazmat: I say remove the start stuff until we can get around to finishing the feature |
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[00:48] <hazmat> SpamapS, sounds good to me |
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[00:54] <surgemcgee> Well, running 6 m1.small instances got a little pricey. I have two large amazon bills. Ahhhhh =:s |
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[00:55] <surgemcgee> I blame that on you guys. Need to put the handy constraints options more close to the front of the documentation. |
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[00:57] <SpamapS> surgemcgee: I topped $200 this past month, and thats just from testing stuff for 1 - 2 days at a time ;) |
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[00:57] <SpamapS> surgemcgee: constraints only landed about 2 months ago.. so.. before that you just had to eat it. ;) |
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[03:17] <_mup_> Bug #1013469 was filed: Reactor issues (should switch to solar) <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013469 > |
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[03:30] <twobottux> aujuju: What is the correct way to set config options to a juju service unit with a file? <http://askubuntu.com/questions/151075/what-is-the-correct-way-to-set-config-options-to-a-juju-service-unit-with-a-file> |
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[04:53] <twobottux> aujuju: Can't get juju to deploy, problem with ec2 keypair? <http://askubuntu.com/questions/151088/cant-get-juju-to-deploy-problem-with-ec2-keypair> |
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[06:41] * negronjl is done for the night |
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[06:41] <imbrandon> night |
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[06:42] * imbrandon just got done with the second round of updates for the doc theme |
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[07:19] <rogpeppe> what's a good idiom for detecting when all my relations have been joined? store the joined status in a file? |
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[07:21] <imbrandon> relations can be joined at any time, even weeks after a deployment when new nodes or services are added |
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[07:25] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: what if i depend on those relations, so i need them to be fulfilled before i can proceed? |
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[07:27] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: i guess i'm wondering if there's some way of querying the status of the other relations while within a relation-joined hook |
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[07:28] <imbrandon> then dont do anything until relation-joined |
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[07:28] <imbrandon> almsot every charm has something like that, e.g wordpress cant work without a db |
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[07:28] <imbrandon> so it waits for the mysql to join relation |
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[07:29] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: that's fine. but in this case i want to wait for *both* relations to be joined |
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[07:30] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: and i'm wondering what the idiomatic way to do that is |
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[07:30] <imbrandon> ok so do some setup in one and some in the other and make them inter depend |
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[07:30] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: by storing state in a file? |
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[07:31] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: or is there some other way to track local state? |
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[07:31] <imbrandon> could be that or checking for a file that only exists on setup, like a settings.php |
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[07:32] <imbrandon> config-set would be an option but it has not be coded yet :) |
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[07:33] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: i'm not sure that config-set is quite what i'm after, as that's global to the service, but this is something local to the unit |
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[07:34] <rogpeppe> config-set --local, perhaps |
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[07:34] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: BTW i'm not quite sure what you mean by "checking for a file that only exists on setup, like a settings.php" |
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[07:34] <imbrandon> umm so i am wordpress, i need a webserver and i need a db |
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[07:34] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: the other end of the relation is remote, right? so there won't be any associated files. |
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[07:35] <imbrandon> so i setup myself on www when i get the ww relation |
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[07:35] <imbrandon> but ther eis no settings file as that is made by the db relation |
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[07:35] <imbrandon> so i know its not be setup yet by [[ -t /pth/to/settings.php ]] |
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[07:35] <imbrandon> and can wait till next relation fires |
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[07:36] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: ah, so you're tracking which relations have been joined by which files you've created. i see. |
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[07:36] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: and then in both relation-joined hooks you test for both files and start the service if they exist. |
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[07:36] <imbrandon> not really cuz very rearely do i reeally care, i'll set up the relation regaurdless of the other state |
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[07:37] <imbrandon> the charm wont work untill they all come about anyhow :) |
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[07:37] <imbrandon> but if i did care that would be the simplest way |
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[07:38] <rogpeppe> imbrandon: thanks a lot |
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[07:38] <imbrandon> np heh :) |
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[15:39] <imbrandon> SpamapS: btw did mention i LOVE sphinx doc system, like it has some funky parts to work arround but for real, i even installed the PHP and JavaScript domain plugings to document my personal libs and such |
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[15:55] <m_3> imbrandon: do you use trello mobile? jorge's recent change to ubuntu group borked my mobile boards |
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[15:56] <imbrandon> yea, but i havent logged into it in a few days |
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[15:56] <imbrandon> lemme check |
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[15:56] <imbrandon> ios right ? |
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[15:56] <m_3> not sure if I'm just being dumb... yeah ios |
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[15:56] <imbrandon> ahh crap ipad is dead, i'll check it here in afew once it charges a lil |
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[15:56] <imbrandon> should only take a few min to charge enought to come on |
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[15:57] <m_3> np.. no hurry... just wondering if I was the only one |
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[15:57] * m_3 can also just rtfm :) |
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[15:57] <imbrandon> heh yea, i actually leave that and mail clien up on my ipad alot |
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[15:57] <imbrandon> just sitting off to the side |
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[15:57] <negronjl> 'morning all |
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[15:57] <imbrandon> kinda nice to just thumb through but not have a tab |
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[15:58] <imbrandon> heya negronjl |
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[15:58] <m_3> negronjl: yo |
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[15:58] <negronjl> 'morning imbrandon |
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[15:58] <negronjl> m_3: hi |
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[15:58] <m_3> wish they had a native ipad version... that'd be really cool with trello |
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[15:58] <m_3> visual layouts n stuff |
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[15:59] <imbrandon> yea, all the effect with the movement would be nice |
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[15:59] <imbrandon> like iphoto, well the new one |
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[15:59] * m_3 nod |
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[16:00] <imbrandon> i think this is thr first time i;ve charged this one since i got it |
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[16:00] <imbrandon> about a month ago ( the new 3, traded off my 2 ) |
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[16:01] <imbrandon> but honestly i can tell no diffrence at all, even with the retna display |
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[16:16] <imbrandon> seems ok here m_3 |
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[16:19] <m_3> imbrandon: ok, thanks |
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[17:36] <jcastro> SpamapS: hey clint, may I brainstorm an idea with you? |
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[17:36] <jcastro> have we thought about the equivalent of like a debian watch file? |
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[17:36] <jcastro> so we can test/know when a charm is out of date vs. upstream? |
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[17:37] <imbrandon> thats what i was tracking with the x-vcs , we could approve a metadata field easy enough for a upstream url and then have charm tools check it |
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[17:37] <imbrandon> like watch does, via the charm store too |
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[17:37] <imbrandon> like bts |
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[17:38] <SpamapS> jcastro: No we haven't throught about it, but I'd love to have something like it |
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[17:38] <SpamapS> And there is a discussion in Debian right now to add Vcs to watch files |
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[17:39] <hazmat> imbrandon, i'm starting to wonder if this sphinx bootstrap layout wouldn't be better (retains navigation tree) .. demo -> http://code.scotchmedia.com/engineauth/docs/index.html code -> |
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[17:39] <imbrandon> hazmat: yup, already on it |
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[17:39] <imbrandon> ;) |
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[17:39] <hazmat> imbrandon, +1 on upstream url |
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[17:39] <hazmat> i was thinking how to get that into the browser with google search api ;-) |
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[17:39] <hazmat> but ofc a metadata field for it would be much nicer |
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[17:39] <imbrandon> heh yea :) |
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[17:40] <imbrandon> the feeds api is great for that btw, if you ever dig more |
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[17:40] <jcastro> SpamapS: ok, and one other thing, where'd you put in the docs the info for other distros? |
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[17:40] <imbrandon> but yea a dedicated field/fields for tarball/vcs |
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[17:40] <imbrandon> would rock |
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[17:41] <imbrandon> jcastro: http://local.assets-online.com/docs/operating-systems.html |
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[17:41] <imbrandon> err . correct domain |
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[17:41] <imbrandon> thats my local copy heh |
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[17:41] <jcastro> got it |
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[17:42] <imbrandon> hazmat: yea i ve got an update 3.4 done with better navigation |
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[17:42] <imbrandon> closer to the old way |
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[17:42] <imbrandon> but still ubuntu like |
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[17:42] <imbrandon> probably will need more tweaks but much better than whats i put up yesterday |
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[17:44] <imbrandon> btw i am splitting out the theme so other sphinx users in canonical/ubuntu can use it too + i have a "base" plain .html verion i;ve been mirroring too so that i can convert it to drupal/wordpress/django easy as well |
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[17:44] <imbrandon> for the little one off cananical non-webteam or pre-web team sites |
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[17:44] <imbrandon> heh |
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[17:46] <imbrandon> but yea my .plan hazmat was to utilize the responsive css, and the 1170 and 980 screens use the tree on the side |
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[17:47] <imbrandon> and the smaller ones and tablets use a dropdown |
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[17:47] <imbrandon> its what i;ve been working on between nginx/spdy stuff this morning |
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[17:48] <hazmat> imbrandon, sounds good to me |
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[17:48] <hazmat> imbrandon, nginx spdy is pretty experimental was my understanding |
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[17:49] <imbrandon> also noticed i hard coded a few http:// and ssl errors are throwing, got that fixed up too |
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[17:49] <hazmat> imbrandon, awesome, thanks |
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[17:50] <imbrandon> SpamapS: so can we add upstream: and vcs: pweease ! *said in his best kid on christmass day voice* |
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[17:56] <jcastro> SpamapS: are you planning on adding it more or should I post this to the list? |
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[17:59] <SpamapS> jcastro: I have no plans. ;) |
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[18:37] <m_3> SpamapS: yo |
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[18:37] <m_3> SpamapS: I'd like to kick off a jjj build |
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[18:37] <m_3> SpamapS: is there anything that should happen before `make dist`? |
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[18:41] <SpamapS> m_3: autoreconf :) |
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[18:41] <m_3> SpamapS: yeah... got all that |
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[18:41] <SpamapS> actualy make dist probably does that |
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[18:41] <SpamapS> well no |
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[18:42] <SpamapS> make diest is after .. anyway |
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[18:42] <m_3> SpamapS: just can't quite tell if I need to bump the vers |
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[18:42] <SpamapS> m_3: no, it should be self contained |
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[18:42] <m_3> awesome |
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[18:42] <SpamapS> m_3: only bump the version if you're doing an actual release :) |
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[18:42] <SpamapS> should be like, 0.11 or something righ tnow |
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[18:42] <m_3> so `make dist` now will create 0.10.1? |
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[18:42] <m_3> ah |
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[18:43] <SpamapS> no make dist does not create a version. |
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[18:43] <m_3> is there also build recipe to kick off manually from the web or is that handled in make dist? |
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[18:43] <m_3> I see "create a release" button on the web |
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[18:43] <SpamapS> m_3: there's a build recipe attached to the trunk |
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[18:43] <SpamapS> m_3: it points at the stable branch.. |
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[18:44] <SpamapS> m_3: unfortunately we can't use {latest-tag} in bzr build recipes.. or it would be fully automatic |
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[18:44] <m_3> SpamapS: you have any problems with me creating a new release version with jim's changes (they're approved and merged into trunk now) |
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[18:44] <m_3> (watch subcommand) |
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[18:45] <SpamapS> m_3: the release procedure is to bump the version in configure.ac, commit+tag that, push that to trunk+stable, then bump again and push that to trunk only |
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[18:45] <SpamapS> m_3: then make dist, create release, upload tarball, etc. etc. |
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[18:45] <SpamapS> m_3: would love to automate this so its 'make release' |
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[18:46] <m_3> hmmm... wow, didn't think I'd need to upload tarballs... ok |
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[18:46] <SpamapS> m_3: the final step is to edit the recipe and bump the revision to the next stable version, and request a build |
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[18:46] <SpamapS> that last step is the most annoying |
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[18:47] <SpamapS> because its just waiting on an update to launchpad to be automatic :-P |
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[18:47] <SpamapS> m_3: you don't *have* to push tarballs |
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[18:47] <m_3> before I get started on that... bigger question: should this process sync up with bigger cycle milestones? or is it ok to be when we feel like it? |
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[18:47] <SpamapS> m_3: I just wanted to make it easy for anybody who wants to run it |
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[18:47] <SpamapS> m_3: jjj is experimental. We release whenever. |
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[18:47] <SpamapS> often :) |
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[18:47] <SpamapS> 1 commit is enough |
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[18:47] <SpamapS> :) |
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[18:48] <SpamapS> anyway, I have to run and do some errands |
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[18:48] <m_3> SpamapS: cool |
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[18:48] <SpamapS> bbl |
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[18:48] <m_3> SpamapS: I'll work on the bump... I'll try to ping you only as last resort :) |
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[18:48] <m_3> thanks! |
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[18:49] <MarkDude> imbrandon, pingy |
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[18:49] <imbrandon> sup MarkDude |
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[18:49] <MarkDude> Good news on Fedora JUJU? |
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[18:50] <imbrandon> yea its, in the wild, did not see 1000 tweets from everyoen ? heh |
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[18:50] * MarkDude has some that may help with process now the questions start |
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[18:50] * MarkDude hasa had time taken by ladyfriend |
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[18:50] <imbrandon> seriously tho its on gitup, all ready to start and take a beating, i noticed there is a zookeeper issue i need to fixup |
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[18:50] <imbrandon> but it works :) |
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[18:50] <MarkDude> also we are STILL arguing over names in Fedora |
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[18:50] <imbrandon> hahaha |
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[18:50] <imbrandon> nice |
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[18:50] <MarkDude> Antoehr board meeting |
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[18:51] <MarkDude> some polls |
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[18:51] <MarkDude> changing the voting system |
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[18:51] * MarkDude calleda few people humorless |
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[18:51] <MarkDude> due to their lack of humor |
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[18:51] <imbrandon> http://github.com/jujutools/rpm-juju should be where it is atm |
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[18:51] <imbrandon> btw |
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[18:51] <imbrandon> heh make it beefy |
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[18:51] <imbrandon> just beefy |
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[18:51] <imbrandon> :) |
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[18:52] <MarkDude> They are pushing for a theming way to do it |
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[18:52] * MarkDude has suggested BBQ |
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[18:52] <imbrandon> btw you should have seen my gimp job i posted with the rpm's |
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[18:53] <imbrandon> check out brandonholtsclaw.com its still on the front pahe |
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[18:53] <imbrandon> page* |
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[18:56] <imbrandon> MarkDude: but yea i'm sure that they are not perfect, i'm more than happy to take bugreports or help or whatever from the testers |
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[18:56] <MarkDude> Im putting it out now on IRC |
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[18:56] <MarkDude> Then will go to MLs |
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[18:56] <imbrandon> if they do file a bug report , i'll give ya the tracker url |
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[18:56] <imbrandon> one sec |
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[18:57] <imbrandon> https://github.com/jujutools/rpm-juju/issues |
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[18:58] <imbrandon> and patches more welcome too as i'm not a native rpm'er :) |
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[18:59] <imbrandon> i was gonna try that suse build service soonish to try and build centos / suse / fedora packages all form the git repo automatic |
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[18:59] <imbrandon> =just had not got that far :) |
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[19:04] <MarkDude> So Jeff Spatula is wrong about charms needing to be hosted on LP- am I correct? |
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[19:04] <imbrandon> they dont NEED to be, it would be easy for yall if they were |
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[19:05] <imbrandon> just means you have to setup your own store if you want to not use LP ( there is talks about the store moving to github , not sure where thats gonna go tho ) |
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[19:46] <jcastro> negronjl: mira mira |
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[19:46] <jcastro> when do you want to do the graphs for the charm store? |
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[20:17] <jcastro> hazmat: what's the refresh interval on the review queue, I believe you said 15 minutes? |
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[20:24] <hazmat> jcastro, yup |
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[20:24] <hazmat> jcastro, max delay with the http cache is 18m |
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[21:13] <_mup_> Bug #1013457 was filed: twistd still autostarted for juju after juju is removed from system <juju> <storage-server.log> <twistd> <juju:Confirmed> <juju (Ubuntu):Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013457 > |
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[21:20] <SpamapS> m_3: how did it go? |
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[21:22] <m_3> SpamapS: almost there!!! |
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[21:22] <m_3> on the last step... can't seem to edit the recipe |
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[21:22] <m_3> is it owned by you? |
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[21:23] <m_3> https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+recipe/juju-jitsu-stable |
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[21:27] <SpamapS> m_3: let me transfer it to juju-jitsu |
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[21:30] <m_3> SpamapS: also, I see a deb version in the recipe (0.10-0stable1) but no updates in the changelog in lp:juju-jitsu/packaging... did you just make up 0.10-0stable1? |
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[21:30] <SpamapS> m_3: https://code.launchpad.net/~juju/+recipe/juju-jitsu-stable |
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[21:30] <SpamapS> m_3: yes I just made that up |
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[21:30] <m_3> cool... trying again now |
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[21:30] <SpamapS> m_3: Have to run. TTYL |
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[21:32] <m_3> ok, thanks... that seemed to work |
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[21:55] <m_3> SpamapS: awesome... it built |
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[23:48] <hazmat> SpamapS, m_3, jamespage around? |
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[23:48] <hazmat> trying to figure out python-dbg stuff to trace down a deadlock |
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[23:49] <hazmat> but it can't seem to import any extensions on precise |
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[23:49] <hazmat> it always fails with ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apt_pkg.so: undefined symbol: Py_InitModule |
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[23:49] <hazmat> which is troubling |
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[23:50] <hazmat> nm |
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[23:50] <hazmat> just removing sys.excepthook gets rid of apport which was the problem |
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[23:50] <hazmat> failure in the failure system ;-) |
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[23:52] <hazmat> hm... didn't work as well i had hoped |
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