| [02:44] <msdaisy> hello all, I'm studying linux permissions and I don't understand how you would see this: -rwsr-S--t. I would only expect this: -rw-r----- What command would you use to get the first result? | |
| [02:44] <msdaisy> I know ls -l will give you the second result. | |
| [02:47] <escott> msdaisy, i think thats setuid, setgid and sticky bit | |
| [02:47] <msdaisy> yes it is. But how do you get bash to report that? | |
| [02:48] <escott> msdaisy, stat? | |
| [02:49] <msdaisy> is there a variable that goes with stat? because I just get the expected result with stat. | |
| [02:50] <escott> msdaisy, i dont understand what you want exactly | |
| [02:50] <msdaisy> I don't either- that's probably the problem :) | |
| [02:50] <escott> msdaisy, are you asking how you would go about chmod'ding a file to make it that set of permissions? | |
| [02:51] <msdaisy> When would I see -rwsr-S--t ? Why wouldn't I just see rwx only? I'm getting this from here: http://content.hccfl.edu/pollock/aunix1/filepermissions.htm just above the "Files" section. | |
| [02:52] <escott> msdaisy, so the lowercase s means setuid/setgid non-executable, the capital S means setuid/setgid and executable | |
| [02:52] <escott> iirc | |
| [02:54] <msdaisy> how is that different from ---x or ----? | |
| [02:54] <escott> msdaisy, you want to know what setuid/gid do? | |
| [02:54] <msdaisy> yes. | |
| [02:55] <escott> depends on it being a file or folder | |
| [02:55] <escott> on files that are marked S meaning setuid and executable the file executes with the uid/gid of the owner. so this is used for things like "mount" | |
| [02:56] <msdaisy> ah, setuid is used to temporarily elevate privileges too. | |
| [02:56] <escott> which allows non-priviledged users to perform priviledged operations (subject to the restrictions of the application in the mount case entry must be in the fstab) | |
| [02:57] <escott> msdaisy, inspecting ls -l `which mount` shows im wrong. maybe s means setuid without executable | |
| [02:58] <msdaisy> The SUID bit displays as an "S" in the owner's execute column of the output. If the execute bit is also set then an "s" is used. (from the link I posted) | |
| [03:00] <msdaisy> thanks for the help escott , I will continue to read. | |
| [03:01] <escott> on folders it means that new files get set to the same permissions | |
| [03:02] <escott> msdaisy, im not sure when you would ever have setuid/gid without execute, or what that would mean | |
| [03:34] <msdaisy> escott, that's what was confusing me. I think i just need to read more about setuid/gid in general. | |
| [03:34] <escott> msdaisy, my guess is the capital S is to indicate "you probably got this wrong and want something else" | |
| [05:41] <Matpick> Hello, a beginner here, having some issues installing Ubuntu anyone here willing to help me out? | |
| [05:42] <nothingspecial> well I'm in here | |
| [05:42] <nothingspecial> lol | |
| [05:42] <nothingspecial> what's up Matpick | |
| [05:43] <Matpick> Well I formated my disk getting rid of Windows and wanting to install Ubuntu only | |
| [05:43] <nothingspecial> ok | |
| [05:43] <Matpick> now i ran it with the disc when i go and click install its telling me I dont have 4.4 GB of space to install Ubuntu | |
| [05:43] <Matpick> My hdd is 1TB | |
| [05:44] <nothingspecial> is it unallocated space or is there a partition there | |
| [05:44] <Matpick> Kind of stuck now since I can only run ubuntu using CD and Windows is also gone | |
| [05:44] <Matpick> Im not really sure, I formated it using the Windows 7 Install Disc :/ which I know isnt the right way to do it | |
| [05:44] <nothingspecial> press the super (windows key) and start typing "gparted" | |
| [05:45] <nothingspecial> open the gparted partition editor and have a look at what you've got | |
| [05:45] <Matpick> Yeah I tried GParted after Googling it but that says no devices detected. | |
| [05:46] <wilee-nilee> Matpick, hit alt-f2 then type unity --reset then try again, if this is a ubuntu cd | |
| [05:46] <Matpick> Didnt want to ask any dumb questions so I have been on google trying to fix this for at least two hours but im stuck.. | |
| [05:46] <nothingspecial> can you see the drive from the live cd at all? | |
| [05:46] <wilee-nilee> unity has a habit of being mucked up | |
| [05:47] <Matpick> typed it, screen was blinking for a little bit now im back | |
| [05:47] <stlsaint> i dont think thats the issue. That 1TB is formatted wrong possibly | |
| [05:47] <Matpick> Ran GParted again still no devices detected | |
| [05:48] <Matpick> I do think my 1TB might be wrongly formated.. not sure how I can fix that though | |
| [05:48] <nothingspecial> press Ctrl-Alt-T to run a terminal and type | |
| [05:48] <nothingspecial> sudo fdisk -l | |
| [05:48] <nothingspecial> it'll ask for a password, just hit enter | |
| [05:49] <nothingspecial> can you see your drive listed? | |
| [05:49] <Matpick> dont think so | |
| [05:50] <Matpick> i see bunch of letters like b c h u v etc. and with some text next to it but nothing that looks like my drive | |
| [05:50] <Matpick> b <size> sector size (512, 1024, 2048 or 4096) | |
| [05:50] <Matpick> that type of thing | |
| [05:51] <Matpick> fdisk [options] <disk> change partition table | |
| [05:51] <nothingspecial> silly, obvious question coming | |
| [05:51] <nothingspecial> you sure it's connected correctly? | |
| [05:52] <Matpick> Well I had Windows on it just hour ago and computer was working fine | |
| [05:52] <stlsaint> Matpick: are you using one or two drives? | |
| [05:52] <Matpick> only one | |
| [05:52] <Matpick> Single 1TB drive | |
| [05:53] <stlsaint> Matpick: do you mind installing a application called pastebinit? | |
| [05:54] <Matpick> i guess not, what does it do | |
| [05:54] <stlsaint> just gonna allow us to see your command outputs | |
| [05:54] <stlsaint> via a website | |
| [05:54] <Matpick> I was reading something on the net about the way driveis conected something about SATA and SATAIII or something but I dont understand it | |
| [05:54] <Matpick> sure ill google it now | |
| [05:54] <stlsaint> Matpick: SATA is fine. As long as you dont have multiple | |
| [05:55] <stlsaint> Matpick: no google needed | |
| [05:55] <stlsaint> Matpick: open a terminal and enter: sudo apt-get install pastebinit | |
| [05:55] <nothingspecial> sudo apt-get install pastebinit | |
| [05:55] <nothingspecial> in your terminal, again just enter throught the password | |
| [05:55] <stlsaint> nothingspecial: tsk tsk...to slow lol | |
| [05:55] <Matpick> ok done | |
| [05:56] <stlsaint> Matpick: in terminal enter: | |
| [05:56] <stlsaint> Matpick: sudo fdisk -l | |
| [05:56] <stlsaint> sorry | |
| [05:56] <stlsaint> Matpick: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit | |
| [05:56] <stlsaint> and paste the url you get here | |
| [05:56] <nothingspecial> then paste url here | |
| [05:56] <nothingspecial> :) | |
| [05:56] <stlsaint> nothingspecial: lol thats twice ;) | |
| [05:56] <stlsaint> quick on the keys lol | |
| [05:57] <stlsaint> Matpick: just copy and paste the output here | |
| [05:57] <Matpick> Cant im on the different computer at the moment | |
| [05:57] <Matpick> On the laptop | |
| [05:57] <Matpick> But I guess I can relog on the one running ubuntu | |
| [05:57] <stlsaint> o_O | |
| [05:57] <nothingspecial> come back from the live cd | |
| [05:58] <stlsaint> does the ubuntu computer have internet? | |
| [05:58] <nothingspecial> but I have to go to work | |
| [05:58] <nothingspecial> I'll have to leave you in these capable hands | |
| [05:58] <stlsaint> ha | |
| [05:58] <Matpick> yeah im on the net on it | |
| [05:58] <nothingspecial> hope you get it sorted Matpick :) | |
| [05:59] <Matpick> Thanks for your help | |
| [05:59] <MatpickUbuntu> Ok on ubuntu comp now | |
| [05:59] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: well no need for Matpick now | |
| [05:59] <MatpickUbuntu> yeah just want to be on incase something stuffs up with this ne | |
| [06:00] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: arlight paste that url from the commdn | |
| [06:00] <stlsaint> command | |
| [06:00] <MatpickUbuntu> Yeah, it said pastebinit is not located | |
| [06:00] <stlsaint> that means you didnt install it | |
| [06:00] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: sudo apt-get install pastebinit | |
| [06:01] <MatpickUbuntu> I | |
| [06:01] <MatpickUbuntu> Yup doneit again now its sayig unable to locate package pastebinit | |
| [06:02] <stlsaint> alright screw it, just paste the output into paste.ubuntu.com and send url here | |
| [06:02] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: paste output of command: sudo fdisk -l | |
| [06:02] <MatpickUbuntu> is that - L ? or 1 | |
| [06:03] <stlsaint> lowercase | |
| [06:03] <MatpickUbuntu> yeah it doesnt do anything | |
| [06:04] <stlsaint> no space between the - and l | |
| [06:04] <stlsaint> fdisk -l | |
| [06:04] <stlsaint> sudo fdisk -l | |
| [06:04] <MatpickUbuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ | |
| [06:05] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: enter command: sudo lshw -C disk | |
| [06:05] <MatpickUbuntu> CPUID | |
| [06:05] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: paste output in paste.ubuntu.com | |
| [06:05] <MatpickUbuntu> Doing it now | |
| [06:06] <MatpickUbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1036681/ | |
| [06:10] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: considering that linux does not see your drive im thinking you will need to re-format with a boot disk | |
| [06:11] <MatpickUbuntu> Will I be able to burn it since im running ubuntu through a disc? | |
| [06:11] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: you said you had another computer right? | |
| [06:11] <MatpickUbuntu> MacBook AIr .. no Cd :( | |
| [06:11] <stlsaint> ok, will have to use usb than | |
| [06:12] <MatpickUbuntu> Got plenty of those | |
| [06:13] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: i am a personal fan of UBCD | |
| [06:14] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: download the iso from one of the mirrors listed below and use a application called unetbootin to install to usb | |
| [06:14] <stlsaint> sudo apt-get install unetbootin | |
| [06:14] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: here is UBCD site: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html | |
| [06:15] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: if that CD cant get your drive to a read ready state with fat32 or ntfs format than nothing will :) | |
| [06:15] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: 1. Download from site UBCD ISO | |
| [06:16] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: 2. In ubuntu open terminal and enter: sudo apt-get install unetbootin | |
| [06:16] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: 3. Plug in USB to ubuntu system and open Unetbootin from menus | |
| [06:16] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: 4. Select the "Have ISO" option and ensure that /dev/sdb is listed in the usb section of unetbooin | |
| [06:17] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: 5. Select the ISO from your system and start. Boot to the usb after its done and try and format that drive | |
| [06:17] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: i must head to bed, 0120AM here | |
| [06:18] <MatpickUbuntu> Thanks for help mate hopefully it will work :) | |
| [06:18] <MatpickUbuntu> sudo apt-get install unetbootin .. for some reason it siad it cant find unetbootin :/ | |
| [06:18] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: if not just come back tomorrow, ill be here ;) | |
| [06:18] <stlsaint> >< | |
| [06:18] <stlsaint> are you sure you have internet on that system? | |
| [06:18] <MatpickUbuntu> Im on it now | |
| [06:18] <MatpickUbuntu> Writing from it | |
| [06:18] <stlsaint> your not joshing me?? o_O | |
| [06:18] <stlsaint> oh alright | |
| [06:19] <MatpickUbuntu> Im not | |
| [06:19] <MatpickUbuntu> Full 100% serious.. its frustrating me :( | |
| [06:19] <MatpickUbuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install unetbootin | |
| [06:19] <stlsaint> ah forgot you may have to enable the sources. | |
| [06:19] <MatpickUbuntu> How do I do that | |
| [06:20] <stlsaint> you see that bar to your right | |
| [06:20] <stlsaint> aye left | |
| [06:20] <MatpickUbuntu> Yup | |
| [06:20] <stlsaint> hit the top ubuntu symbol button and type in update manager | |
| [06:21] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: give me a sec, booting up vm | |
| [06:22] <MatpickUbuntu> yup | |
| [06:22] <MatpickUbuntu> found the thing and opened it | |
| [06:24] <stlsaint> ok you should see a option that says: CD-ROM | |
| [06:26] <MatpickUbuntu> I have Settings, Check, Install Updates and Close | |
| [06:26] <stlsaint> nope, one sec | |
| [06:26] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: hit settings button | |
| [06:27] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: Click first tab, "Ubuntu Software" | |
| [06:27] <stlsaint> select the "Main" | |
| [06:27] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: then hit close | |
| [06:27] <MatpickUbuntu> Yup | |
| [06:28] <MatpickUbuntu> E: Unable to locate package unetbootin | |
| [06:28] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: did everything reload? Packages should have reloaded | |
| [06:29] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: screw it, easypeasy, go here, hit download button | |
| [06:29] <stlsaint> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ | |
| [06:29] <stlsaint> for linux | |
| [06:30] <MatpickUbuntu> there we go, so that will help me make that USB bootable right? | |
| [06:30] <stlsaint> yep, follow the directions on that site | |
| [06:30] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: see on that site scroll down to the first pic where it says Diskimage | |
| [06:30] <stlsaint> the second radial button on the pic | |
| [06:31] <MatpickUbuntu> ok newbie questions.. i cant open the unebooting program i downloaded =/ | |
| [06:31] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: make sure to select the ubcd iso there and where it says Type: make sure your USB shows up where you see C;\ | |
| [06:31] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: lol | |
| [06:32] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: open terminal: cd Downloads && sudo dpkg -i unetbootin.blah.blah | |
| [06:32] <stlsaint> whatever the file is | |
| [06:32] <MatpickUbuntu> is there a way i can share my screen or something haha im such an idiot i know | |
| [06:32] <MatpickUbuntu> Could not display "/home/ubuntu/Downloads/unetbootin-linux-575". | |
| [06:33] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: lol why are you trying to display | |
| [06:33] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: first command: cd Downloads | |
| [06:33] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: then enter: sudo dpkg -i unetbootin-linux-575 | |
| [06:33] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: better yet right click the unetbootin file and choose install with software center | |
| [06:34] <MatpickUbuntu> Errors were encountered while processing: unetbootin-linux-575 | |
| [06:34] <MatpickUbuntu> i swear i have the worst luck :( | |
| [06:35] <stlsaint> lol naw, you see on that site it has a button for MAC :D | |
| [06:35] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: dont you have a MAC ;) | |
| [06:35] <MatpickUbuntu> i should do it on my mac, good idea :D | |
| [06:35] <MatpickUbuntu> my first linux ecperiences not so great :P but i wont give up | |
| [06:35] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: naw its this TB drive format issue | |
| [06:36] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: nothing at ubuntu's fault | |
| [06:37] <MatpickUbuntu> I know | |
| [06:37] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: you got it from here? | |
| [06:37] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: wait, one more link | |
| [06:38] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/index.html | |
| [06:39] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: what you want is under the Hard Disk tools, on that link scroll down to the Partition management block | |
| [06:39] <MatpickUbuntu> yeah | |
| [06:39] <stlsaint> all the apps at your fingertips | |
| [06:39] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: alright man hope it works out, im sure you will enjoy ubuntu | |
| [06:39] <stlsaint> MatpickUbuntu: later man | |
| [06:40] <MatpickUbuntu> see ya | |
| [06:40] <MatpickUbuntu> thanks for the help | |
| [06:41] <stlsaint> no prob | |
| [08:06] <tenach> o. | |
| [08:06] <tenach> o/ | |
| [15:52] <bobweaver> Hello there I will be teaching a Class On How to find some troubles that you read about on the Ubuntu Forums and fixes ,How to make Packages (Debian) For these Troubles. Think about it as a crash cource in packaging. What we will be doing. We will be looking a a b43 driver(wireless broadcom) and the awaful "missing firmware" Bug. There is a fix for this on the forums But I think it would be best If There where Pacakages for theses | |
| [15:52] <bobweaver> Fixs. Who knows maybe a team might form to bring Ubuntu Forums and Ubuntu Motu closer. Things that are needed Teamvier you can get deb for that here. http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx | |
| [15:53] <bobweaver> Other tools that are needed | |
| [15:53] <bobweaver> ubuntu-dev-tools , dpkg-dev, dh-make, | |
| [15:53] <bobweaver> WHEN June 14th 2012, 11:30 am 0700 UDT too 1pm | |
| [15:53] <bobweaver> WHERE #ubuntu-classroom | |
| [15:53] <Meridious> cool story bro | |
| [16:14] <SergioMeneses> bobweaver, great!... | |
| [16:18] <bobweaver> SergioMeneses, hope to see you there :) | |
| [16:19] <SergioMeneses> bobweaver, me too xD | |
| [16:19] <SergioMeneses> if I don't have to work I will be present ;) | |
| [16:54] <raubvogel> bobweaver: I myself will probably be there | |
| [16:54] <bobweaver> Good news then | |
| [19:11] <Dandaman3452_> have problem with ext4 filesystem ,sorry for outlinking but this will explain best without spaming http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/uy72d/help_needed_not_a_noob/ | |
| [19:18] <Dandaman3452_> Bump ^ | |
| [19:20] <philipballew_> must be a forums person | |
| [20:55] <Meridious> So how is everybody today? | |
| === SkippersBoss_ is now known as Skippersboss | |