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[00:08] <shadeslayer> /usr/include/boost/spirit/home/qi/parse.hpp:155:9: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[00:08] <shadeslayer> yay
[00:08] <shadeslayer> I made the compiler shit itself
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[05:05] <Daskreech> Is 4.8.80 built? The notes say PyKDE FTBFS
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[10:25] <bambee> kwin 4.8.80 <3
[10:35] <Riddell> bambee: what's good in it for you?
[11:29] <apachelogger> backtracing rekonq is epic fun on 1gb ram
[11:30] <Peace-> apachelogger: you have not get crash ?
[11:30] * Peace- XD
[11:30] <apachelogger> ...
[11:31] <apachelogger> fun fact: leave rekonq open all night with an asorted list of tabs, it will not only have leaked but also crash on exit
[11:38] <apachelogger> there now is a krunner for kill Oo
[11:44] <apachelogger> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/09/plasma-desktopZ19146.png
[11:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: ugly theme?
[11:51] * apachelogger waves fist
[11:52] <apachelogger> not as ugly as the default
[11:54] <apachelogger> This package has 0 new bugs and 0 open questions.
[11:55] <apachelogger> mhhh, that's a change
[11:57] * apachelogger finds it a bit mean that one has to have kactivitymanagerd running even when not using activities
[11:58] <Peace-> not bad theme
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[11:59] <CIA-19> [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@kubuntu.org> * apachelogger@kubuntu.org-20120609115904-7mgw6qorn0y7pjd1 * (debian/changelog share/config/krunnerrc) Deactivate new runners for killing (yes, that needs a runner) and activity switching
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[12:12] <bambee> Riddell: what's good in it for you? --> the performances are excellent
[12:12] <bambee> no you can change the qt graphics system and use raster
[12:12] <bambee> s/no/now/
[12:12] <kubotu> bambee meant: "now you can change the qt graphics system and use raster"
[12:13] <bambee> the compositing handler, the effects are very very fast :)
[12:13] <bambee> a great release !
[12:15] <bambee> I feel that this not the same laptop... :D
[12:23] <apachelogger> lol
[12:24] <apachelogger> bambee: did we not use raster?
[12:27] <bambee> apachelogger: probably, even if I disable raster and I switch to xrender, it's faster than kde 4.8...
[12:27] <Riddell> who can spot the error in this build? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+build/3559576
[12:27] <Riddell> bambee: hug mgraesslin next time you see him for that
[12:28] <bambee> I have already congratulated him (and the kwin team) on #kde-devel :)
[12:28] <apachelogger> raster always > other stuff :P
[12:32] <apachelogger> so
[12:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you actually use rekonq?
[12:36] <yofel_> Riddell:
[12:36] <yofel_> ../../../../nepomuk/kioslaves/nepomuk/resourcepagegenerator.cpp:204:36: error: 'depiction' is not a member of 'Nepomuk2::Vocabulary::NFO'
[12:36] <yofel_> ../../../../nepomuk/kioslaves/nepomuk/resourcepagegenerator.cpp:205:52: error: 'depiction' is not a member of 'Nepomuk2::Vocabulary::NFO'
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[12:37] * apachelogger giggles
[12:41] <yofel> now I wonder why that would build in quantal...
[12:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: yep
[12:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: but it does crash and it does not work on some websites so it's not perfect at all
[12:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: and it does not fail to load sites, leak memory and crashes on fun sites?
[12:44] <apachelogger> also intermediate lock ups
[12:44] <Riddell> apachelogger: rumour has it the author has been hired by blue systems so he can spend more time on it
[12:44] <apachelogger> also general sluggishness when using say a gmail tab and other stuff
[12:44] <Riddell> and maybe we can make closer relations with him to get it working better with kubuntu
[12:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: we have been talking about closer relations for years yet I never saw that happen
[12:45] <Riddell> right enough
[12:45] * apachelogger ponders invoking the dog food rule
[14:30] <bambee> I noticed that phonon-backend-vlc and phonon-backend-gst haven't the same lib prefix. The first one is installed in /usr/lib and the second one in /usr/lib/<arch>/
[14:32] <Mamarok> Riddell: apparently launchpad ejected me from the kubuntu-irc-operators list without warning
[14:34] <apachelogger> bambee: no one cares
[14:35] <bambee> ?
[14:36] <apachelogger> I complained about it some time ago
[14:37] <apachelogger> also I do not get why it is multiarched to begin with
[14:57] <bambee> something like that http://paste.kde.org/496130/ ?
[14:58] <debfx> bambee: there's no point in doing that. vlc isn't multiarched.
[14:59] <shadeslayer> wibble
[15:01] <shadeslayer> this looks extremely useful : http://upstream-tracker.org/compat_reports/kde-libs/4.8.3_to_4.8.4/compat_report.html
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[16:59] <shadeslayer> anyone have experience in dealing with toolchain issues?
[17:00] <shadeslayer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/107207946/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.digikam_4%3A2.6.0-0ubuntu1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz < build log
[17:00] <shadeslayer> Specific error message : /build/buildd/digikam-2.6.0/extra/kipi-plugins/panorama/ptoparser/ptoparser.cpp:158:122: required from here
[17:00] <shadeslayer> /usr/include/boost/spirit/home/qi/parse.hpp:155:9: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[17:00] <shadeslayer> Please submit a full bug report,
[17:03] <debfx> See <file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.7/README.Bugs> for instructions.
[17:03] <shadeslayer> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676728 < Seems to be in debian as well
[17:03] <ubottu> Debian bug 676728 in src:digikam "digikam: FTBFS: parse.hpp:155:9: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Serious,Open]
[17:04] <shadeslayer> turns out ... don't have gcc 4.7 :P
[17:05] <debfx> report a bug against the gcc-4.7 packages with the information from "Summarized bug reporting instructions"
[17:05] <debfx> I expect the steps haven't changed from 4.6
[17:13] <shadeslayer> debfx: heh, found the file in my debian sid install on the vps :P
[17:41] <shadeslayer> debfx: question, don't pbuilders use their own gcc? So if I'm building digikam in a quantal pbuilder, it would fail there as well right?
[17:42] <yofel> as long as your pbuilder is fully updated it should fail the same
[17:42] <yofel> unless this has something todo with memory constaints or whatever
[17:42] <shadeslayer> okay
[17:45] <yofel> hm, packagers ML is fun too today...
[17:46] <shadeslayer> surely you mean it's been fun for the past few weeks
[17:46] <yofel> good point...
[17:47] * shadeslayer looks into juju charm for owncloud
[18:22] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1010966] KDM doesn't allow login into Unity, Gnome3, Unity 2D... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1010966 (by Tommy_CZ)
[18:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1010966 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "KDM doesn't allow login into Unity, Gnome3, Unity 2D..." [Undecided,New]
[18:27] <yofel> apachelogger: does that only monitor kde-workspace?
[18:29] <shadeslayer> agateau: ping
[18:54] <shadeslayer> Filed http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=53620 for digikam ftbfs
[18:54] <ubottu> gcc.gnu.org bug 53620 in c++ "Compiler segfaults when compiling Digikam" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ]
[18:57] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: how goes it?
[18:58] <shadeslayer> I'm good, excited that exams are over, looking forward to the next couple of weeks
[18:58] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: how about you?
[19:14] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: doing ok
[19:15] <Daskreech> We are showing off some things at a conference
[19:15] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:15] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: oh, which conf?
[19:16] <Daskreech> we have a Kubuntu machine here kinda sidelined to show off KDE 4.9 if the packages come through
[19:16] <Daskreech> shadeslayer SELF
[19:16] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: South East LinuxFest
[19:16] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: we do have 4.9 packages :P
[19:17] <shadeslayer> interesting
[19:17] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: oh which PPA ?
[19:17] <shadeslayer> for precise? It's in staging, but they haven't been tested
[19:18] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging
[19:21] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: Guess I'm testing then :)
[19:21] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:21] <shadeslayer> my ISP still hasn't contacted me for upgrading my connection :|
[19:29] <Daskreech> Strange
[19:29] <Daskreech> theye normally mlike having more money
[19:37] * sreich wishes he could upgrade his connection
[19:43] <shadeslayer> yep, no idea why they won't take my money
[20:18] <Riddell> Mamarok: hum, I have no idea who does kubuntu-irc-operators list
[20:18] <Riddell> probably some irc council
[20:18] <Riddell> ikonia: you know? ^^
[20:52] <Daskreech> ok rebooting to KDE 4.9
[20:59] <jussi> Mamarok: are you now sorted with the ircc issue ?
[21:00] <jussi> Riddell: you know, after Dave Morelys mail, I jujst tried out rekonq again - seems to be much better than before. still a bit jumpy scrolling, but not bad at all
[21:03] <Riddell> jussi: yes it's generally nice, just a few websites it doesn't work with (which is an issues with qtwebkit/the website in question)
[21:04] <Riddell> and occational crashes/freezes are a downer
[21:04] <jussi> Riddell: any particular websites? FB seems to now work?
[21:05] <Riddell> jussi: aws console and bbc iplayer
[21:05] <Riddell> come to mind
[21:05] <jussi> ok
[21:06] <jussi> So what are the real issues with webkit? is there anything that we have people with the knowhow to fix?
[21:14] <shadeslayer> heh, aws console, what's it written in anyway ...
[21:16] <jussi> Riddell: yay, I consistently get the crash on close bug
[21:16] <jussi> :/
[21:18] <Riddell> jussi: not in kubuntu that requires a lot of time to do bug fixes on
[21:19] <jussi> Riddell: hrr.
[21:19] <Riddell> and with html et al it's often uncertain if it is a bug, e.g. bbc iplayer probably has some browser detection and just redirects everything to a non-supported page
[21:19] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: ping
[21:19] <shadeslayer> pong
[21:20] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: So I log in and it goes to a black screen for a minute then kwin crashes then it throws to login screen
[21:20] <Daskreech> I can run kwin manually and get in
[21:21] <Daskreech> krunner needs kde-workspace-bin
[21:21] <Daskreech> kde-workspace-bin needs kde-ksplash-default
[21:21] <Daskreech> Which doesn't have a package available
[21:21] <shadeslayer> ah, so broken packages
[21:21] <shadeslayer> everywhere
[21:22] <Daskreech> :-)
[21:22] <Daskreech> not really
[21:22] <shadeslayer> oh?
[21:22] <Daskreech> Just in one place kde-ksplash
[21:22] <Daskreech> (so far)
[21:23] <shadeslayer> right
[21:23] * shadeslayer checks
[21:26] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: ack, can you file a bug against quantal ?
[21:27] <shadeslayer> because it doesn't work there as well
[21:27] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: Ok
[21:27] <shadeslayer> also, I have no idea what kde-ksplash-default is
[21:27] <shadeslayer> All I can see is something for active
[21:28] <yofel> iirc the temporary name for kde-base-artwork
[21:28] <yofel> which is stuck somewhere
[21:29] <yofel> kde-ksplash-default doesn't exist in any case
[21:29] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: should I just grab the kde-workspace-bin deb?
[21:30] <shadeslayer> well ... atmost it would be stuck in binary new, but Daskreech is in a PPA
[21:30] <shadeslayer> s/in/using/
[21:30] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "well ... atmost it would be stuck using binary new, but Daskreech is in a PPA"
[21:30] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: uh, could you hold off on that bug report
[21:30] <shadeslayer> need to check binary new first
[21:31] <Daskreech> yofel: no kde-base-artwork
[21:31] <shadeslayer> nope, not even in binary new
[21:31] <debfx> I've renamed kde-ksplash-default to kde-base-artwork but the package is stuck in the (source) new queue anyway
[21:31] <shadeslayer> ahh
[21:31] <yofel> shadeslayer: it's not in the ppa
[21:32] <yofel> so someone just needs to upload that
[21:32] <shadeslayer> okay, doing
[21:32] <Daskreech> \o/ :)
[21:32] <Daskreech> doesn't fix the depends but ok
[21:32] <Daskreech> yofel: What should it be named?
[21:39] <yofel> Daskreech: the dependency? kde-base-artwork
[21:39] <yofel> shadeslayer: are you fixing that too or should I?
[21:39] <shadeslayer> will do
[21:39] <shadeslayer> stupid KSNI giving me notifications every 5 seconds :|
[21:39] <yofel> there's plenty of build failures anyway :/
[21:39] <yofel> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+packages
[21:40] <yofel> ok, some just need retries
[21:40] <yofel> and boost depchange
[21:41] <shadeslayer> I want to strangle KSNI now
[21:45] <shadeslayer> splash uploaded to staging, working on fixing deps
[21:46] <yofel> I'm fixing boost stuff
[21:46] <shadeslayer> will get back to neon after this :P
[21:53] <Daskreech> Okkjlfkfg
[21:53] <Daskreech> Ok net is back
[21:54] <yofel> shadeslayer: do you understand the kde-runtime failure? I see what's wrong, but I don't get where that comes from
[21:54] * shadeslayer looks
[21:55] <shadeslayer> ahahahaha
[21:55] <shadeslayer> ../../../../nepomuk/kioslaves/nepomuk/resourcepagegenerator.cpp: In member function 'QByteArray Nepomuk2::ResourcePageGenerator::generatePage() const':
[21:55] <shadeslayer> ../../../../nepomuk/kioslaves/nepomuk/resourcepagegenerator.cpp:204:36: error: 'depiction' is not a member of 'Nepomuk2::Vocabulary::NFO'
[21:55] <shadeslayer> ../../../../nepomuk/kioslaves/nepomuk/resourcepagegenerator.cpp:205:52: error: 'depiction' is not a member of 'Nepomuk2::Vocabulary::NFO'
[21:56] <shadeslayer> have fun with nepomuk2 namespaces
[21:56] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: Just to confirm I shouldn't be submitting the bug?
[21:57] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: nah, that's fine, I'll just fix it
[21:57] <shadeslayer> just uploading a new kde-workspace-4.8.80 right now
[22:10] <JontheEchidna> so about these: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libkdecorations4
[22:10] <JontheEchidna> libkdecorations4abi1is API-incompatible with libkdecorations4
[22:11] <JontheEchidna> so we'll either have to get upstream to update those, maintain patches ourselves (ugh!), or remove them
[22:11] <JontheEchidna> as it stands I don't believe kwin will load the plugins using the old api
[22:12] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: so the other package is uploaded?
[22:12] <shadeslayer> Just a minute
[22:14] <debfx> JontheEchidna: kwin-style-crystal seems to build fine against 4abi1
[22:14] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[22:14] <JontheEchidna> I know that qtcurve is failing
[22:14] <JontheEchidna> anything that used the old grouping api
[22:15] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: oh btw, did you happen to implement message indicator support in muon?
[22:15] <debfx> ah ok, the crystal version in the archive doesn't support grouping
[22:16] <debfx> (better not update to the latest upstream version ;) )
[22:16] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[22:16] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: but muon isn't a messaging app O.o
[22:16] <shadeslayer> *headdesk*
[22:17] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: sorry about that
[22:19] <JontheEchidna> :P
[22:30] <Daskreech> :-)
[22:31] <shadeslayer> dput is being stupid
[22:31] <shadeslayer> even though I have : incoming = ~%(ppa)s/ubuntu in my config file
[22:32] <shadeslayer> doesn't allow me to upload :|
[22:32] <shadeslayer> should have installed ubuntu on my VPS ^_^
[22:34] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: uploaded
[22:36] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: Checking
[22:36] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: Precise?
[22:37] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging/+builds?build_state=building
[22:37] <Daskreech> or Quantal?
[22:37] <shadeslayer> precise
[22:37] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: ok refreshed the page
[22:37] <shadeslayer> I've also uploaded to quantal
[22:37] <shadeslayer> missed a 'not' in the changelog though :
[22:37] <shadeslayer> :|
[22:37] <shadeslayer> so it reads " Make kde-workspace-bin depend on kde-ksplash-default"
[22:39] <shadeslayer> I'm torn between whether or not to fix it in the branch
[22:40] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: :-) depends on who will complain
[22:40] <Daskreech> I'm stepping outside for a little bit
[22:40] <shadeslayer> cya
[22:44] <debfx> JontheEchidna: qtcurve seems to be the only one that ftbfs. I've uploaded rebuilds for the others.
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> great
[22:44] <JontheEchidna> the qtcurve kde-look page says that Craig no longer uses QtCurve himself, so....
[22:45] <shadeslayer> hah
[22:47] <debfx> I suppose we could also rip out the grouping stuff
[22:47] <debfx> as the code seems to support KDE versions that didn't have grouping
[22:51] <shadeslayer> yofel: is the libglew transition required in precise as well?
[22:51] <shadeslayer> or just quantal
[22:51] <JontheEchidna> maybe there's a build flag we can pass to force that
[22:53] <yofel> quantal
[22:53] <yofel> they want to drop 1.5 from the archive
[22:53] <shadeslayer> okay, so I'll just lessen the dep for avogadro
[22:54] <shadeslayer> in kalzium
[22:55] <yofel> you'll then need to re-add the libglew(1.5?)-dev build-dep to kalzium, as I moved that
[22:55] <shadeslayer> yep, doing that
[22:55] <yofel> then it's fine
[23:01] <shadeslayer> yofel: trying to fix kde-runtime? :D
[23:01] <yofel> no, I'm out of ideas
[23:02] <yofel> kde-runtime seems fine, nepomuk-core is fine, soprano is fine - ...?
[23:02] <shadeslayer> ../../../../nepomuk/kioslaves/nepomuk/resourcepagegenerator.cpp:204:36: error: 'depiction' is not a member of 'Nepomuk2::Vocabulary::NFO'
[23:04] <debfx> maybe new shared-desktop-ontologies is required?
[23:05] <shadeslayer> looks like it
[23:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah, sdo needs backporting
[23:08] <JontheEchidna> argh, both of these are ftbfs too: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libkdegames5a
[23:08] <JontheEchidna> why can't upstreams wait until kde5 to do all of this? :(
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[23:17] <yofel> yeah, ofc it's the one package I forgot to check...
[23:23] <shadeslayer> yofel: uploaded? or want me to up to do that?
[23:32] <Mamarok> jussi: yes, everything OK now, thanks :)
[23:33] <shadeslayer> yofel: I've uploaded shared-desktop-ontologies_0.9.0-3~precise1~ppa1_source.changes to staging
[23:34] <shadeslayer> I'm off to sleep, night everyone
[23:53] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: Night