2012/06/07/#kubuntu.txt

[01:00] <neo69> hi
[01:00] <neo69> I just installed postgresql 9.1 but when I try to start it nothing happens, no errors also
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[05:40] <foormea> hi people!
[05:41] <foormea> i wanna give some basic reading material about linux and bash (beginner's level) to a colleague. would you say that tldp's "introduction to linux - a hands on guide" is a good document?
[05:54] <skramer_> I just installed Krusader & I must say I really like it. There´s only one problem that is the missing icons in the toolbar (http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/07/Screen.png) and some of the menu. How may I get these icons to be shown properly?
[07:16] <_BS_> pp ... in khelpcenter, I see no build search index. Has it disappeared?
[07:36] <Ormie> why is kubuntu larger than ubuntu?
[07:36] <Ormie> iso file
[07:37] <Ormie> ???
[07:37] <Ormie> ?????
[07:37] <Ormie> ????????
[07:39] <metehan> hello is there anyone know how to find nice fancy looking kubuntu themes?
[07:39] <Ormie> Ormie> why is kubuntu larger than ubuntu?
[07:39] <Ormie> <Ormie> iso file
[07:47] <Ormie> Corey, Oh my god, you are a freenode staff. I thought if I say DDOS i get z-lined or what ever -lined. :(
[07:48] <Corey> Ormie: It's not advised on this network.  There's no "legitimate" DDOS purpose, so "education" doesn't fly.
[07:48] <Ormie> okay, please don't z-line or whatever line me.
[07:48] <Ormie> i am a good guy
[07:55] <ashankar> Hi all, running kubuntu 12.04, how do I install debug packages for /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 (owned by libkdeui5) and /usr/lib/libkcmutils.so.4 (owned bykdelibs5-dev ) ?
[08:27] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:38] <jtheuer> how can I add a SSL client certificate for konqueror (and http mails in kmail2) ?
[08:47] <Tm_T> http mails?
[08:55] <ashankar> wat
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[10:28] <KiwiCam> Hello. I've just discovered KDE and I love it. That is all.
[10:28] <lordievader> KiwiCam: That is good to hear! Have fun!
[10:29] <Tm_T> KiwiCam: hi and welcome, if you enjoy non-support related discussion around the subject, feel free to join us in #kubuntu-offtopic too (:
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[10:53] <KiwiCam> Tm_T: Great. Thanks. Channel saved.
[11:52] <noaXess> hey hey
[11:52] <noaXess> are teh existing jaunty source.lists?
[11:52] <noaXess> i need to manage a old jaunty and update seomthing before ugprading
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[11:56] <ikonia> noaXess: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[12:10] <noaXess> ikonia: thanks.. got it ;)
[12:11] <ikonia> nice job
[12:11] <noaXess> is't just a terminal client.... but customer moved it into another area and now i need openvpn on that machine grrr..
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[12:45] <noaXess> i need to create a tunnel with racoon.. it works.. but not after boot... then i can't conect over tunnel,i need to first restart racoon to get the connection, any hint?
[12:45] <noaXess> ikonia:
[12:46] <ikonia> noaXess: I've never used racoon so sadly, no idea
[13:06] <BluesKaj> hey all
[13:14] <almoxarife> i have the wicd-kde bug, close it and it crashes, any one managed to bypass the crash?
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[13:21] <BluesKaj> almoxarife, using wicd for wifi, right ?
[13:24] <savio> can i ask question about gnome
[13:25] <noaXess> savio: hm.. better in #gnome ;)
[13:26] <savio> thx
[13:31] <Spider-Pork> Hi. I have a problem with cryptsetup. I'm trying to crypt an external USB disk with cryptsetup 1.4.3 on my kubuntu 11.04. The problem is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028517/ the kernel is 2.6.38-15-generic-pae. Any Idea? Thank you
[13:44] <vix__> Hello guys. I am a new kubuntu user and my sound has stopped working after an upgrade. Can anyone please help?
[13:47] <mydogsnameisrudy> vix__:  have  you check your levs on alsamixer
[13:49] <vix__> not yet... whats the command for that?
[13:49] <mydogsnameisrudy> open terminal run alsamixer
[13:53] <vix__> thanks. looks like everything obvious is turned up. Anything in particular to look for?
[13:53] <mydogsnameisrudy> any thing muted?
[13:56] <vix__> don't think so. I'll post a screenshot
[13:57] <Spider-Pork> Hi. I have a problem with cryptsetup. I'm trying to crypt an external USB disk with cryptsetup 1.4.3 on my kubuntu 11.04. The problem is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028517/ the kernel is 2.6.38-15-generic-pae. Any Idea? Thank you
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[13:58] <vix__> http://paste.kde.org/494708/
[13:59] <mydogsnameisrudy> the MM means there muted need to change them
[13:59] <vix__> ah. how?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> vix__, use the M key
[14:01] <vix__> Ah. Ok. SOrry :> Noob
[14:01] <mydogsnameisrudy> thanks BluesKaj i was looking , forgot the keyu
[14:01] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy, np ...thought you were busy
[14:02] <mydogsnameisrudy> just dont use it much so i forgot lol
[14:02] <vix__> um. Still no sound though...
[14:03] <BluesKaj> vix__, when asking , direct your question to the person helping you , use his/her nick so it highlights on their irc client
[14:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> vix__: ok have you checks your cables , power to speaker ect.
[14:03] <mydogsnameisrudy> just to make sure
[14:03] <vix__> <BluesKaj> like this?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> vix__, yes , exactly
[14:04] <Spider-Pork> Hi. I have a problem with cryptsetup. I'm trying to crypt an external USB disk with cryptsetup 1.4.3 on my kubuntu 11.04. The problem is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028517/ the kernel is 2.6.38-15-generic-pae. Any Idea? Thank you
[14:04] <vix__> <mydogsnameisrudy> its a laptop and was working a few weeks ago. Thought that 12.04 would fix it but no luck
[14:05] <vix__> <mydogsnameisrudy> hang on: I'll try headphones
[14:07] <vix__> <mydogsnameisrudy> no sound from headphones either. SC is onboard intel 82801DB-ICH4
[14:09] <BluesKaj> !repeat | Spider-Pork
[14:09] <ubottu> Spider-Pork: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.
[14:12] <vix__> <mydogsnameisrudy> if this helps, when I use headphones and use vlc to boost volume to 200% i can faintly hear sound.
[14:13] <mydogsnameisrudy> vix__:  ok im looking for ideas
[14:13] <vix__> <mydogsnameisrudy> very kind: thankyou!
[14:14] <BluesKaj> vix__, open kmenu>my computer>system settings>multimedia>phonon>device preference ...you'll see a list on the right , choose the different devices in the list and use the "test" button to check for sounds
[14:15] <mydogsnameisrudy> BluesKaj: ive read something about muting s/pdif not sure what that is
[14:16] <BluesKaj> spdif is your digital output , that's if you use it to connect to an amp or powered speaker system that has digital inputs , usually rca/coax, altho some fncier cards have optical
[14:16] <BluesKaj> fancier
[14:16] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmm ok
[14:17] <eagles0513875> what is the shortcut to show hidden folders
[14:17] <BluesKaj> actually that's what i use
[14:17] <vix__> <BlueSkaj> There is only one option (plus one dummy and another that are greyed out). Can't hear anything when I test
[14:18] <BluesKaj> vix__, ok run aplay -l in the terminal , pastebin the result
[14:18] <vix__> <eagles0513875> alt + .
[14:18] <eagles0513875> ty vix__  :)
[14:20] <vix__> <BlueSkaj> http://paste.kde.org/494714/
[14:22] <Avihay> can you try system settings -> Multimedia -> Phonon -> Audio hardware setup ? soundcard should be the soundcard that you want, Profile should be analog duplex if you use the analog output, and in sound device, choose playback, and then try the different connectors
[14:25] <vix__> Just found a fix for headphones. Forum post suggested muting external amplifier. That fixed headphone sound. Speakers still not happy...
[14:26] <BluesKaj> vix__, in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[14:26] <vix__> <Avihay> just says built-in audio.
[14:27] <Avihay> do you have different connectors?
[14:27] <eagles0513875> ikonia: starting the reinstall
[14:27] <Avihay> listed under playback
[14:28] <vix__> vix@vix-lappy:~$  sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[14:28] <vix__> vix@vix-lappy:~$
[14:29] <BluesKaj> vix__, good
[14:29] <vix__> <avihay> got two other greyed out ones; one is dummy. the other iec958
[14:31] <Avihay> well, I had a problem that the connector switch from analog stereo speakers to analog headphons when I stick my headphones in, and then I had to turn up the volume to 11 to hear faint voices in the headphones, but my headphone's output would be just fine if I set the connector to analog speakers, thought you might have a similar issue...
[14:32] <vix__> <avihay> headphones seem to be fine with "external amplifier" muted
[14:33] <Avihay> then I havn't a clue, sorry
[14:33] <BluesKaj> vix__, ok , in krunner (alt+f2) , kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  , add this line to the bottom ,  options snd-intel8x0 index=0 . There is no gurantee , but we have to cover all the bases to make sure the sound module /driver is loaded . Now reboot .
[14:35] <vix__> ok. i'll be 5 while I reboot
[14:35] <vix__> thanks <BluesKaj>!
[14:45] <vix_> I'm ba-ack
[14:47] <mydogsnameisrudy> vix_:  and hows the sound
[14:47] <vix_> mydogsnameisrudy: no joy :(
[14:48] <mydogsnameisrudy> vix_: when your were running 11.10 it worked fine?
[14:49] <vix_> yep. An update seemed to break it. I hoped 12.04 would resolve it but no...
[14:50] <mydogsnameisrudy> you upgraded then to 12.04 from 11.10
[14:52] <ikonia> eagles0513875: be with you asap, just having a short meeting
[14:53] <eagles0513875> ikonia: tyt for some reason the boot usb wasn't able to copy and i recreated the usb
[14:54] <BluesKaj> vix_, unfortunately your soundcard driver suffers from an unresolved bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/992490
[14:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 992490 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "[ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4, playback] No sound at all after upgrade to 12.04" [Undecided,New]
[14:55] <ikonia> eagles0513875: ok, my install is complete
[14:55] <eagles0513875> wtf
[14:55] <ikonia> easy there
[14:55] <eagles0513875> sry i know language but for some reason its having problems reading from my usb drive
[14:55] <BluesKaj> look like pulseaudio might be affected , vix_ ...you could try removing pulseaudio
[14:56] <vix_> <BluesKaj> and then reinstalling? or using somthing else?
[14:56] <eagles0513875> ok going to try make the usb on my imac
[14:58] <BluesKaj> vix_, no , sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio , in the terminal , then another reboot , unfortunately , the alsa force-reload command doesn't always work
[15:09] <murali> Please help. copying of files in kubuntu is very slow. almost 1mbps. previous its used to be around 5mbps
[15:11] <murali> Please help. copying of files in kubuntu is very slow. almost 1mbps. previous its used to be around 5mbps
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[15:19] <BluesKaj> vix_, you may have to purge pulseaudio , copy and paste this command into the terminal without the quotes , otherwise pulseaudio wll still load in the background and interfere with the alsa driver, " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse"
[15:20] <BluesKaj> oh well , too late
[15:25] <BluesKaj> vix_, you may have to purge pulseaudio , copy and paste this command into the terminal without the quotes , otherwise pulseaudio wll still load in the background and interfere with the alsa driver, " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse"
[15:26] <vix_> thanks..
[15:31] <vix_> <BluesKaj> done! i'll check sound
[15:33] <vix_> <BluesKaj> still no sound
[15:35] <BluesKaj> vix_, probly needs another reboot ...this is gerttng as bad as windows , you could try this first , sudo alsa force-reload
[15:36] <vix_> vix@vix-lappy:~$ sudo  alsa force-reload
[15:36] <vix_> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-seq-midi snd-rawmidi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-timer snd-seq-device snd-page-alloc (failed: modules still loaded: snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-timer snd-page-alloc).
[15:36] <vix_> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-seq-midi snd-rawmidi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-timer snd-seq-device snd-page-alloc.
[15:36] <FloodBotK1> vix_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:36] <BluesKaj> vl yes that's anormal output after the reload command
[15:36] <BluesKaj> vix_,^
[15:37] <vix_> cool
[15:39] <vix_> <BluesKaj> Still no sound. Sorrry
[15:40] <vix_> <BluesKaj> There are aload more options in phonon but none seem to work
[15:41] <BluesKaj> vix_, make sure your alsamixer controls aren't turned down or muted
[15:41] <vix_> checked: they're not
[15:41] <BluesKaj> but vix_ still think a reboot is in order
[15:42] <vix_> ok. I'll try that!
[15:42] <BluesKaj> that's my best shot at this vix_ , I'm out of ideas now
[15:44] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[15:45] <BluesKaj> gooday lordievader
[16:23] <ForgeAus> I love doing things I shouldn't be able to do :)
[16:23] <ForgeAus> about to try rebooting into windows to see if I can boot XPmode from the native VHD from BCD by adding a BCDstore to the XPMode VHD ... I'm sure something will break :) but might be fun trying
[16:52] <phoenix_firebrd> is kde 4.9 beta 1 available ?
[16:54] <hyper_ch> hi there, I accidentally removed the network manager. I did reinstall the package but it's not auto-started. any advice?
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[16:55] <phoenix_firebrd> hyper_ch: did you restart after that?
[16:56] <DarthFrog> hyper_ch: Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package name>"
[16:57] <hyper_ch> DarthFrog: dpkg-reconfigure gives me hints :) thx
[17:01] <sky100> after burning images on a DVD-R using k3b .. the sytem is not reading the disc after inserting
[17:01] <sky100> can any one help pls....
[17:02] <sky100> but the same DVD-R is being read in windows XP
[17:02] <sky100> do I need to uninstall k3b & reinstall it ?
[17:03] <sky100> ple  help
[17:03] <sky100> pls*
[17:03] <BluesKaj> medibuntu | sky100,
[17:03] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | sky100,
[17:03] <ubottu> sky100,: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:04] <BluesKaj> sky100 , what kind of images ?
[17:04] <sky100> MOVIES
[17:04] <sky100> SOOsorry for caps
[17:04] <sky100> .avi format
[17:05] <BluesKaj> sky100, make sure you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed as well
[17:05] <sky100> how to ensure it BluesKaj
[17:06] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras , sky100
[17:13] <sky100> i hope it has some issues with k3b..its disconnecting my internet as well
[17:14] <sky100> when i open it at times
[17:14] <BluesKaj> what is?
[17:15] <sky100> k3b, BluesKaj
[17:15] <BluesKaj> k3 has nothing to do with your internet
[17:15] <BluesKaj> k3b
[17:15] <sky100> in previous version of kubuntu 11.03 , i had no problem with k3b
[17:16] <sky100> ok
[17:16] <sky100> always the same msg
[17:16] <sky100> weird behaviour
[17:17] <BluesKaj> well, i have to go ... busy with other stuff today
[17:17] <sky100> ok BluesKaj
[17:17] <sky100> ty
[17:18] <nyuszika7h> Kubuntu 11.03? Interesting.
[17:18] <nyuszika7h> I thought there is usually only .04 and .10
[17:19] <sky100> oh , i was wrong . nyuszika7h .. it was 11.10 prolly
[17:19] <sky100> excuse
[17:19] <nyuszika7h> No problem
[17:35] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:50] <graft> hi, is it possible to read PDFs within dolphin?
[17:50] <graft> i hate having 20 okular windows
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[17:54] <jamil_1> in konqueror yes, dont know about dolphin
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[18:26] <graft> hmm, how to do it in konqueror?
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[18:55] <sky100> hi
[18:55] <sky100> i burnt movies using  Brasero ,,, it fianlly showed burning error
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[19:30] <shallwe> hi guys, someone here using grapich tablets like genius or wacon?
[19:31] <shallwe> my genius i608x works the moves but not the pressures :(
[19:45] <metehan> Hello guys again me :),My kubuntu start to open on every start showing desktp sharing is there anyone know why? is there anything to do with my other macbook on network etc???
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[20:06] <Bentheplantguy> Trying to backup to external HD.  Opened Nepomuk Backup and got this error message "The Nepomuk backup service does not seem to be running.  Backups cannot be handled without it." options are finish or cancel.  both terminate program.  i updated all nepomuk related items in synaptic.  ideas?
[20:16] <lordievader> Bentheplantguy: Have you checked if it is running?
[20:23] <Bentheplantguy> don't know how to do that.  it isn't in my dashboard, so i figured it wasn't currently open.  what do i need to check
[20:25] <Yankees52> whats up whats up whats up
[20:25] <lordievader> Bentheplantguy: System Settings -> Desktop Search -> Nepomuk Semantic Desktop
[20:26] <genii-around> Yankees52: You've reached the Kubuntu support channel! Do you have some issue regarding your Kubuntu which needs resolving?
[20:27] <Yankees52> yeah is dual core pentium 3 933Mhz 512MB ram enough for kubuntu?
[20:28] <maco> might be a little slow, but yeah
[20:28] <Bentheplantguy> i'm in system settings, but don't see desktop search
[20:28] <Yankees52> is the dual cpu 933MHZ weak?
[20:28] <maco> not particularly weak, just ... 8 years old
[20:29] <lordievader> Bentheplantguy: It's under Workspace Appearance
[20:29] <genii-around> Yankees52: The cpu is fine...the amount of RAM is marginal.
[20:29] <maco> the 512mb ram is actually what i was thinkign about as being the bottleneck, since your system has to work harder to track everything when you have less ram.
[20:29] <maco> itll work, itd just be snappier with a gig
[20:30] <Yankees52> hmm the max supported is 768MB ram, and i do have one slot avaible
[20:31] <Bentheplantguy> lordievader: not seeing it.  i'm running ubuntu, but nepomuk was recommended to me.  i know it's a KDE program.  is that my problem?  i've used it before though
[20:32] <Yankees52> hmm i think 512MB is fine for now, its only being used by my family to type,
[20:32] <genii-around> Yankees52: The more RAM the better. You could always just see how it runs, if too sluggish then perhaps another derivative like Xubuntu or Lubuntu may be better for that machine
[20:32] <Yankees52> genii-around: do you think the swap file will be used a lot?
[20:33] <genii-around> Yankees52: Yes. Swap partition actually, usually.
[20:33] <genii-around> Yankees52: If you have a fairly fast drive it may not be too painful
[20:34] <lordievader> Bentheplantguy: Ah you are running Ubuntu. You could run "nepomukserver" from a terminal and see if the backup utility works after that.
[20:35] <Bentheplantguy> what is that doing?
[20:36] <lordievader> Bentheplantguy: From your error message you can conclude that the nepomuk service is not running, now I do not use nepomuk myself but I have a hunch that it is the server that is responsible for the error.
[20:37] <Bentheplantguy> o ok, which explains why it suddenly isn't working.  is there a way to set up built in backup in nepomuk?
[20:38] <lordievader> Bentheplantguy: Through the kde system settings you can, but I'm not sure how to do that from gnome/unity.
[20:38] <Bentheplantguy> "[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Error reading zip header:"
[20:41] <lordievader> Bentheplantguy: As I said I don't use nepomuk, so I am not sure what to do now, perhaps someone else knows, or you could try the (k)ubuntu forums.org.
[21:00] <bibi_> salut lume
[21:00] <bibi_> vorbeste cineva romineste?
[21:14] <lordievader> quit
[22:25] <genii-around> Daskreech: What Riddell said
[22:26] <Daskreech> genii-around: I agree
[22:30] <fase> hello
[22:30] <fase> !list
[22:30] <ubottu> fase: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».
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[22:50] <Mitchell92> Hi.. I am going to install kubuntu tomorrow... but I have a question... Will kubuntu update itself to the newest distro release when it comes out like Ubuntu does?
[22:51] <Mitchell92> on ubuntu my system would tell me a new distro release was out, and would update it automatically. Will Kubuntu do that, too?
[22:51] <genii-around> Depends how you have your system set.
[22:51] <Mitchell92> Can you explain?
[22:53] <genii-around> Mitchell92: There are 3 possible settings in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  which are: never, normal, or lts
[22:53] <Mitchell92> Okay. I get it now. Thanks.
[22:54] <Mitchell92> what office software comes with kubuntu? Libreoffice?
[22:55] <Mitchell92> and genii-around,is libdvdcss and the appropriate playback codecs installed by default?
[22:59] <genii-around> Mitchell92: No, for those you need kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:59]  * genii-around slides IdleOne a coffee
[23:00] <Mitchell92> genii-around: how do i enable that repo?
[23:01] <Mitchell92> nevermind
[23:01] <Mitchell92> i found it
[23:01] <genii-around> In some oddball encoding cases you might have to still add the medibuntu repositories
[23:03] <Mitchell92> so I just click on apt:kubuntu-restricted-extras?section=universe?section=multiverse and it'll install the restricted codecs and drivers?
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[23:04] <genii-around> Mitchell92: The repository is the "restricted" repository, the package itself is called specifically kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:05] <genii-around> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:05] <ubottu> kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 57 (precise), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB
[23:05] <Mitchell92> genii-around: So to understand correctly, the restricted repository is enabled, but i need to click that link to download the restricted applications/codecs/drivers, etc?
[23:06] <genii-around> Mitchell92: Basically, yes
[23:06] <Mitchell92> do I need to add the restricted repo, or is it already added by default?
[23:07] <genii-around> I tend to do package installs from command-line with apt-get, so I'm not always up on how to do it through the graphical way
[23:07] <genii-around> Mitchell92: Need to add it
[23:07] <Mitchell92> Okay.
[23:07] <Mitchell92> How do I do that?
[23:10] <genii-around> !repos
[23:10] <ubottu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[23:11] <Mitchell92> ok, thanks so much
[23:11] <Mitchell92> genii-around: Kubuntu is an offocial fork of ubuntu, right?
[23:12] <genii-around> Mitchell92: Yes
[23:12] <Mitchell92> just wondering as I didn't see it on the ubuntu homepage.
[23:12] <genii-around> Mitchell92: There were some recent changes where the host company of Ubuntu is no longer financially supporting Kubuntu developers, but it is still an officially sanctioned derivative
[23:13] <Mitchell92> So, it is still official... but will it still be supported? Does it still have all of the features I've heard so much about from ubuntu?
[23:14] <genii-around> Mitchell92: Kubuntu will still be supported in here, the packages will still continue to be hosted in the same place they currently are, etc
[23:14] <Mitchell92> ok
[23:15] <genii-around> Mitchell92: Underneath of the desktop difference, all of the *buntu family are the same
[23:15] <Mitchell92> ahh, okay.
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[23:17] <Mitchell92> I was using Suse linux... got a new laptop, don't want to load suse this time so i was thinking of kubuntu.
[23:20] <genii-around> Since they both use KDE, it shouldn't be too much of a leap :)
[23:21] <sureshot> To all a good eve or what ever time of day it is ware you are at.. I am new here again. i am running 12.04 need to ask questions. I know i am not on the correct channel can you point me to the right direction
[23:21] <sureshot> or am i
[23:21] <genii-around> sureshot: If you're using Kubuntu, just ask your questions to the channel in general, hopefully one who knows will answer
[23:22] <genii-around> If Ubuntu, then #ubuntu, if Xubuntu then #xubuntu, if Lubuntu then #lubuntu  ... and so on...
[23:23] <sureshot> ok i downloaded ubuntu desktop. just want to make sure i am ware i am supposed to be... i need to know how to get xinerama working .. i cant seem to get my monitorsx seprate
[23:24] <WhitePelican> is there a ppa available to beta test kde 4.9?
[23:26] <sureshot> i am running a ati 5000 hd series card with 512mb has vga/dmi/hdmi out have monitors on dvi and vga. i cant seem to get the catalyst control center to do 2 monitors 2 desktops
[23:27] <sureshot> dvi out not dmi
[23:27] <genii-around> sureshot: Are you using dvi to vga adapters?
[23:28] <sureshot> no i am using all the proper cables
[23:28] <sureshot> vga to vga dvi to dvi
[23:28] <sureshot> or what ever that acronom is
[23:29] <genii-around> OK
[23:30] <sureshot> i also can change it to an ati 3000 hd if it would work better
[23:32] <genii-around> sureshot: I haven't done any dual-head setups on ATI for a long time. There seems to be something recent about it here though http://askubuntu.com/questions/127664/dual-monitors-not-detected-in-ubuntu-12-04-ati-radeon-hd
[23:34] <sureshot> thanks. i am also going to check that card out the series number dont seem right..  i will get back here as soon  as i read and check it all out again thanks
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