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[06:51] <Riddell> morning |
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[06:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: sure put amarok beta on kubuntu.org if you want |
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[06:57] <jdrab> hi guys is this type of warnings/notices somehow important? KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry _whatever_ in "some_desktop_filel.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon)? |
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[07:01] <Riddell> jdrab: nope but feel free to add in the semicolon if it bothers you |
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[07:02] <jdrab> ty Riddell |
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[07:03] <jdrab> it doesn't bother me but it looks ugly in konsole :P |
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[07:03] <Riddell> turn off debugging in kdebugdialog if it's annoying, it's off by default (or should be) for that reason |
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[08:21] <Riddell> debfx: did you say there was a package missing a copying file? |
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[08:22] <debfx> Riddell: kde-base-artwork |
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[08:23] <debfx> and audiocd-kio doesn't have a license for its docs |
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[08:24] <debfx> same for libkcddb and probably some others |
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[08:26] <Riddell> debfx: hum any idea where kde-base-artwork is upstream? |
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[08:27] <debfx> Riddell: it's in svn |
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[08:27] <debfx> apparently git can't handle large wallpapers |
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[08:31] <Riddell> kde-base-artwork done |
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[08:36] <debfx> yay |
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[08:37] <debfx> so today is 4.8.4 release day and we have one broken and one semi-broken tarball ... |
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[08:37] <tazz> fun |
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[08:40] <Riddell> debfx: is that actually going to be released? not waiting on more patches? |
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[08:42] <debfx> they are not public yet so there is still hope that they will be fixed |
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[09:06] <annma> hi, are they packages for Kubuntu for 4.8.80? |
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[09:08] <Riddell> annma: we're working on them, you need them by the weekend? |
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[09:08] <annma> users ask them |
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[09:08] <annma> well beta2 will be tagged |
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[09:08] <annma> so no need to work on beta1 |
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[09:09] <annma> I thought I saw a bug report from Kubuntu with 4.8.80 so I wanted to be sure there are none |
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[09:09] <Riddell> oh there's still need, I'm fixing problems with beta 1 right now (upstream licencing, distro packaging etc) |
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[09:09] <Riddell> no public ones yet |
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[09:10] <annma> OK I'll answer the user, thanks a lot Riddell |
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[09:21] <yofel_> bulldog98: what's "libpkgs_gen_strict_local_shlibs = kapman" ? |
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[09:35] <yofel> nvm |
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[09:41] <yofel> bulldog98: why did you add that though? |
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[09:52] <yofel> hm, did DEB_NO_COMPRESSION=1 loose it's effect? Here all packages are xz compressed anyway. |
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[10:54] <yofel> kubotu: newversion digikam 2.6.0 http://sourceforge.net/projects/digikam/files/digikam/2.6.0/ |
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[10:54] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1009943 |
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[10:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1009943 in digikam (Ubuntu) "Please update digikam to 2.6.0" [Undecided,New] |
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[11:07] <apachelogger> Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'apturl %u'. |
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[11:07] <apachelogger> no goody goody |
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[11:08] <apachelogger> yofel: dunno, amarok had a manual xz entry |
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[11:08] <apachelogger> which then of course overrides whatever pkg-kde does |
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[11:10] <debfx> yofel: you need to set DEB_NO_XZ=1 |
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[11:10] <yofel> ah, thx |
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[11:11] <apachelogger> wah? |
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[11:11] <apachelogger> Oo |
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[11:11] <apachelogger> sicne when? |
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[11:11] <apachelogger> and why? |
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[11:11] <yofel> well, the current equivalent for DEB_NO_LZMA I guess |
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[11:11] <debfx> since I uploaded pkg-kde-tools to the ninjas ppa |
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[11:11] <debfx> it's not in the archive yet due to beta freeze |
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[11:12] <apachelogger> yeah, but where is that var name change from? |
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[11:12] <debfx> I changed the compression from lzma to xz |
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[11:12] <apachelogger> mhhh |
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[11:12] <apachelogger> debfx: please compat var handling |
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[11:13] <apachelogger> lzma is algorithm equivalent to xz, no point in explicitly requiring everyone to change their rcs |
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[11:17] <debfx> hm yeah we should change the var handling anyway |
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[11:18] <debfx> DEB_NO_COMPRESSION=1 shouldn't require DEB_NO_{XZ,LZMA} |
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[11:20] * yofel wonders what the point of libkdegamesprivate is |
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[11:20] <yofel> it's full of public symbols, which were in libkdegames before mostly |
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[11:20] * Peace- packaged on ppa plasma pannel collection |
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[11:20] <Riddell> yofel: no abi compatibility usually? |
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[11:21] <apachelogger> yofel: share symbols across kde games, while not being abi compat |
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[11:21] <apachelogger> hence why it is private |
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[11:21] <yofel> nah, they bumped the SOVERSION of libkdegames to 6 |
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[11:21] <apachelogger> ^^ |
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[11:21] <apachelogger> yofel: because they moved the symbols |
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[11:21] <yofel> ah well, let's see what happens |
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[11:22] <apachelogger> apparently the symbols are only useful to a very specific set of apps in kdegames, so they created a lib for those symbols |
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[11:24] <yofel> ah, that makes sense then |
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[11:30] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 155 * debian/ (22 files) (log message trimmed) |
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[11:30] <CIA-44> * New upstream beta release - drop packages for libraries that were removed |
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[11:30] <CIA-44> upstream: + libkggzgames4 + libkggzmod4 + libkggznet4 - switch libkdegames5a |
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[11:46] <yofel> Riddell: do we have a kde-l10n packaging equivalent for calligra-l10n or did you upload those by hand so far? |
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[11:48] <Riddell> yofel: I think I just did it by hand |
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[11:49] <yofel> ok |
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[11:49] <Riddell> bash for loops make it easy to do for me |
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[11:49] <yofel> yeah, that's what I'll do too unless you've got a script lying around? |
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[11:50] <Riddell> I don't |
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[11:50] <yofel> k |
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[11:55] <ikonia> guys, have you got/considered writing a guide to "how to give us a bug report" eg: the info needed, the steps you would want doing / confirming before the bug even hits you |
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[11:56] <ikonia> I'm struggling to guide someone in how to give you valid/solid info, and wondered if you had anything written up |
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[11:58] <Riddell> there probabaly are bits but out of date |
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[11:58] <Riddell> and hidden in a wiki somewhere |
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[11:58] <yofel> hum, we do have a bug reporting page, but that's so old it's better not to point people to that |
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[11:59] <ikonia> I'm seeing some pretty big holes trying to guide this user, would it be helpful to put something together, I've certainly seem some obvious holes that would waste development time confirming |
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[11:59] <ikonia> or is it not something that crops up often enough to warrent concern |
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[11:59] <ikonia> I'm seeing it quite key because this users information is totally different than what he's putting in bug reports because he "didn't think" |
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[12:00] <ikonia> but one user does not a problem make |
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[12:00] <yofel> the releavant page is https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting - but that hasn't been updated since lucid or so, and it's mostly focused on apport which isn't the case today |
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[12:01] <Riddell> and of course most bugs should go upstream unless you have reason to think it's a kubuntu specific one |
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[12:01] <ikonia> that's probably more of a valid point than I'd considered |
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[12:02] <ikonia> most of the issue I'm seeing shouldn't really be seen by someone working on the upstream process though as they are just nonsense and lacking solid info |
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[12:02] <ikonia> that however is not your problem, thank you for the thoughts, |
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[12:03] <Riddell> it is if we don't get bug reports upstream when they should be |
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[12:03] <ikonia> I agree with that, but if the bug report to upstream is "I'm using kubuntu 12.10 and blah isn't working" then you find out it's a bodged 12.04 with some 12.10 packages and some manual hacks, it's a wate of everyones time |
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[12:04] <ikonia> I'll ponder how to best address it |
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[12:04] <Riddell> upstream should ideally have a page with info for each distro even if it's just a link back to us, but like the "where to download kde" question it's fiddly to solve right |
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[12:04] <ikonia> that would be a good bit of info yes |
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[12:04] <ikonia> or maybe each distro valide it's an upstream bug and pass on with solid info |
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[12:04] <ikonia> but then that's a resource/time waste |
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[12:05] <Riddell> yeah that's why we gave up on doing that |
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[12:05] <ikonia> oh, so you did try that |
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[12:06] <Riddell> that's still the preferred way in ubuntu and debian and the like, it means most bugs just end up rotting |
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[12:08] <ikonia> that may explain the 20,0000000000000+ in launchpad |
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[12:09] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I can't forward everybody from #kubuntu-bugs to #kubuntu-devel without being an op in #kubuntu-devel according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorGuide#Forwarding_Users |
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[12:09] <ryanakca> (and my attempts at doing so) |
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[12:10] <ikonia> ryanakca: I can get that sorted for you if you want ? |
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[12:10] <ryanakca> ikonia: Sure, if you want |
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[12:10] <Riddell> ikonia: you have super powers on freenode? |
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[12:10] <ikonia> it's fine if you're in the middle of it, but I needed to speak to some of the council chaps on something else so I can request it while I'm there |
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[12:10] <ikonia> Riddell: ha ha, not at all |
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[12:10] <ikonia> only certain channels |
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[12:11] <Riddell> oh I can just give ryanakca ops on this channel but I don't recall how right now |
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[12:11] <ikonia> /msg chanserv op ryanakca |
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[12:11] <ryanakca> methinks |
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[12:11] <ryanakca> oops |
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[12:12] <ikonia> /msg chanserv op #kubuntu-devel ryanakca |
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[12:12] <Riddell> 13:11 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Channel ryanakca is not registered. |
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[12:12] <ikonia> (sorry missed out the name of the channel) |
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[12:12] <ryanakca> or /op ryanakca |
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[12:12] <ryanakca> ikonia: Feel like joining #kubuntu-bugs to test? |
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[12:12] <ikonia> sure |
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[12:13] <ikonia> 13:12 -!- Cannot join to channel #kubuntu-bugs (You are banned) |
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[12:13] <ikonia> you sure...... |
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[12:13] <ikonia> may want to check those settings ;) |
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[12:13] <ryanakca> /mode #kubuntu-bugs +b *@*$#kubuntu-devel |
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[12:13] <ryanakca> correct? |
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[12:13] <ikonia> no no |
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[12:13] <ikonia> that's a ban forward |
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[12:13] <ikonia> you want a channel forward |
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[12:14] <ikonia> there is a different syntax I think |
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[12:14] <ikonia> ahhh I wonder if I can't join as I'm in here |
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[12:14] <ikonia> hang on |
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[12:14] <ikonia> perfect |
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[12:14] <ikonia> there you go |
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[12:14] <ikonia> works |
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[12:15] <ikonia> I was already in here so it failed |
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[12:15] <ryanakca> ikonia: Excellent, thanks! |
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[12:15] <ryanakca> ikonia: Could you please remove ubot2 from -bugs ? |
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[12:16] <ikonia> kubuntu-bugs |
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[12:16] <ikonia> (just checking) |
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[12:16] * ryanakca nods |
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[12:16] <ikonia> no problem, just requested it's removal |
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[12:17] <ikonia> take a few minutes |
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[12:17] <ikonia> (only a few people have access to the physical server it runs on ) |
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[12:17] <yofel> ryanakca: can you do the same thing with #kubuntu-testers? That channel is equally useless |
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[12:17] <ikonia> guys instead of forwarding, may I just suggest having them closed/set to invite only |
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[12:18] <ikonia> although a forward is fine |
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[12:19] <ryanakca> yofel: I don't have access to that channel, only Hobbsee and mhb do. |
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[12:19] <yofel> ah |
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[12:19] <ryanakca> Given that nickserv hasn't seen mhb in over a year, Hobbsee is your only bet :) |
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[12:22] * Riddell wonders how to give ryanakca permanant op powers |
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[12:22] <ikonia> ryanakca: access list flats |
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[12:22] <ikonia> /set |
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[12:22] <ikonia> oops |
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[12:22] <ikonia> that was meant for riddle cleawrly |
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[12:22] <ikonia> clearly |
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[12:24] <ryanakca> /msg chanserv access #kubuntu-bugs add foo OP |
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[12:24] <ryanakca> methinks |
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[12:24] <ryanakca> where foo is the nick |
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[12:24] <Riddell> ryanakca: done |
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[12:25] <ryanakca> Riddell: Thanks |
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[12:32] <ikonia> ryanakca: that's useful to know, I didn't know op was an alias chanserv would take when setting flags |
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[12:44] <yofel> in docbooks, the authors don't automatically have the copyright over the docs, but only if they put themselves in the <copyright> section as well, right? |
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[12:46] <Riddell> yofel: I'm not sure what you mean, authors always have copyright over what they write (unless it's under employment) |
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[12:46] <Riddell> but debian/copyright can't get every single author especially if they don't give themselves credit |
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[12:47] <yofel> Riddell: I'm wondering about the kmix one: http://paste.kde.org/494648 - only one author is in the copyright, and one copyright holder isn't in the authors section |
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[12:47] <yofel> so I'm wondering what to put in debian/copyright |
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[12:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: re under contract ... depends on the country |
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[12:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: e.g. france doesn't have copyright assignment |
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[12:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: probably but I didn't say contract I said employment |
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[12:49] <Riddell> it's not assignment it's just what happens with employment (in juristication I'm familiar with there's probably exceptions) |
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[12:49] <apachelogger> ah, true, though I don't remember the details anyway |
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[12:49] <Riddell> yofel: Documentation copyright © 2010 Gaurav Chaturvedi |
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[12:49] <Riddell> would be good enough for me |
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[12:50] <apachelogger> Riddell, yofel: how about just mentioning that documentation copyright lies with their individual authors? |
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[12:51] <apachelogger> as general purpose solution |
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[12:51] <yofel> well, I'm *trying* to use dep5, and that doesn't allow such a vague formulation. I'll just put them all in |
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[12:51] <apachelogger> yofel: it doesn't? |
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[12:52] <Riddell> I wouldn't accept that in debian/copyright as an archive admin, a name is better than just "whoever wrote it" |
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[12:52] <apachelogger> yofel: Formatted text, no synopsis: one or more free-form copyright statement(s). |
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[12:53] <yofel> ah, true |
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[12:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: both the source and the compiled html contains the information |
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[12:53] * yofel re-reads |
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[12:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: explicitly stating the copyright |
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[12:53] <yofel> apachelogger: that's exactly what the copyright file should tell you though without reading those |
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[12:57] <apachelogger> say documentation was initially written 5 years ago by 3 people, translated in 15 languages, the software was since released twice a year every year, betwen releases per language one additional author slammed in a piece of new documentation |
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[12:57] <apachelogger> that is 153 attributions for documentation alone |
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[12:58] <apachelogger> apply the same to translations you have 303 attributions for localization |
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[13:00] <apachelogger> imagine that is dragon ... which has something like 5k sloc, and ~5 attributed copyright holders |
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[13:05] <apachelogger> say one attribution check takes you on average one minute, after 5 years you spend 300 minutes checking attributions on a signle package :P |
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[13:07] <BluesKaj> hey all |
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[13:07] * yofel blelieve he spent 300 minutes just checking attribution in nepomuk-core *once* |
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[13:07] <yofel> *believes -.- |
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[13:08] <apachelogger> my point exactly |
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[13:08] <apachelogger> aso what the policy says about that |
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[13:08] <apachelogger> "In addition, the copyright file must say where the upstream sources (if any) were obtained, and should name the original authors." |
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[13:08] <apachelogger> mind the should and authors |
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[13:09] <apachelogger> attributed copyright holder ~= author, if you want to do it properly you'd have to also track unattributed contributions by going through the vcs or something :P |
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[13:09] <yofel> are we going to bother uploading beta1 to quantal? If not I won't repackage stuff to add license copies |
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[13:10] <apachelogger> yofel: is sufficient stuff packaged to make it testable? |
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[13:10] * apachelogger should pack -.- |
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[13:10] <yofel> from what I see only multimedia stuff is missing |
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[13:10] <yofel> and broken bindings |
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[13:11] <apachelogger> throw it in some public PPA then so people can do testing, then upload b2 to quantal |
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[13:11] <yofel> +1 |
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[13:11] <apachelogger> oh, isn't b2 tagging today? |
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[13:12] <yofel> it is IIRC |
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[13:12] <yofel> we *should* hurry up a bit ^^ |
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[13:12] * apachelogger points out that unlike ubuntu kde actually has an ics file :P |
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[13:13] <apachelogger> yofel: no time to hurry up, must attribute documenters in detail :P |
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[13:13] <yofel> well, so far nepomuk is the only license mess I've encountered |
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[13:13] <yofel> rest is ~fine~ |
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[13:25] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmix] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (15 files in 4 dirs) import kmix packaging |
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[13:38] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog control rules) * New upstream beta release * Drop transitional kdegraphics-strigi-plugins package, moved to meta-kde * Add -dbg package |
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[14:43] <JontheEchidna> so after alpha1 today we're set to start uploading 4.8.80 to the archive? |
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[14:45] <Riddell> yep |
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[14:45] <Riddell> well once 4.8.80 is done and tested in ninjas |
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[14:50] <JontheEchidna> I guess I'll run a test install from ninjas then ;-) |
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[14:53] <JontheEchidna> hmm, dist-upgrade w/ ninjas wants to remove kubuntu-desktop |
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[14:54] <JontheEchidna> Depends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins, but it is not installable |
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[14:54] <Riddell> uh oh |
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[14:54] <Riddell> ah, I'll add in a transition package for that then |
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[14:57] <yofel> kdepim done? |
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[14:57] <yofel> (that's what I'm waiting for before upgrading) |
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[14:57] <Riddell> yofel: worked for me yes |
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[15:06] <debfx> I hope someone is still running 4.8.3 to test 4.8.4 once kdepim finished building :) |
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[15:11] <JontheEchidna> My computer at work has 4.8.3, but I've been out sick yesterday and today, so I've not been able to test |
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[15:11] <BluesKaj> debfx, yes , I'm also on 12.10 tho |
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[15:13] * JontheEchidna runs off to town to get some more cold medicine |
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[15:17] <bulldog98> yofel: that’s for the kapman to be linked against the libkdegamesprivate |
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[15:18] <bulldog98> yofel: for making it depend against the exact version of that, that’s what the debian guys told me to do with libkdegamesprivate |
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[15:43] <ulysses> Hello, I installed Rocs on Precise, and the toolbar buttons don't have icons: http://imageshack.us/f/232/rocsprecise.png/ |
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[15:45] <Riddell> sounds like a beastie |
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[15:45] <ulysses> the icons are installed, but Rocs doesn't use them |
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[15:46] <yofel> fun, I have those, but here rocs itself has no application icon |
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[15:46] <ulysses> that's an upstream bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299332 |
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[15:46] <ubottu> KDE bug 299332 in icons "Application Icon for Rocs" [Wishlist,New: ] |
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[15:47] <annma_> some icons exists |
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[15:47] <annma_> Top Center Base Left Right have icons |
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[15:48] <annma_> ulysses: what does Torles mean? |
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[15:48] <ulysses> annma_: Delete |
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[15:48] <annma_> it has an icon |
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[15:48] <annma_> what version is it? |
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[15:49] <ulysses> Rocs 1.6.0, KDE 4.8.3, Qt 4.8.1 |
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[15:49] <yofel> release? |
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[15:49] <yofel> (kubuntu) |
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[15:49] <ulysses> Kubuntu 12.04 with standard repositories |
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[15:49] <annma_> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/07/plasma-desktopCOj699.png |
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[15:50] <annma_> 1.60 KDE 4.8.3 |
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[15:51] <annma_> ulysses: the bug report you mentioned is for the Application icon, not the toolbar icons |
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[15:58] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 39 * debian/ (changelog control) Add meta package for kdemultimedia |
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[16:02] <ulysses> annma_: I see |
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[16:26] <ulysses> no idea or question? |
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[16:27] <ulysses> annma_: I wanted to mention this bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299332 |
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[16:27] <ubottu> KDE bug 299332 in icons "Application Icon for Rocs" [Wishlist,New: ] |
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[16:27] <ulysses> but that is still not relevant |
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[16:28] <annma_> this is the application icon |
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[16:28] <annma_> not the toolbar icons |
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[16:29] <annma_> the application icon is the one that appears in the K menu and on top left of the window |
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[16:29] <annma_> all toolbar icons exist |
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[16:29] <annma_> you saw my screenshot, right? |
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[16:30] <ulysses> yes, I saw, and the toolbar icons exist here too, but Rocs doesn't use them |
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[16:31] <annma> those icons are specific for rocs |
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[16:31] <annma> so Kubuntuis missing them or your installation is wrong |
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[16:32] <ulysses> the icons are in /usr/share/kde4/apps/rocs/icons/hicolor/ |
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[16:35] <annma> for me they are in $KDEDIR/share/apps/rocs/icons/hicolor/ |
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[16:35] <annma> $KDEDIR is like your /usr |
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[16:36] <annma> mine is different |
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[16:36] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/audiocd-kio] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control rules) * drop direct dependency on libkcddb4 for audiocd-kio * make transitional package pull audiocd-kio in * add debug package |
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[16:36] <ulysses> $KDEDIR is empty for me |
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[16:36] <yofel> that's unset by default |
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[16:37] <annma> ulysses: $KDEDIR doe snot matter here |
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[16:37] <annma> the rest of the path matters |
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[16:37] <annma> you have a kde4/ I don't have it |
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[16:37] <annma> in the path |
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[16:38] <annma> I build and install from kde sources |
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[16:38] <ulysses> I installed with the package manager |
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[16:39] <annma> look in /usr/share/kde4/apps/ for other programs that have an icons/ folder and look if those other programs show their icons |
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[16:40] <annma> I am saying that it is either a packaging bug or on your installation something is wrong |
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[16:40] <annma> you need to find out what is wrong as the icons are there |
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[16:41] <ulysses> Dolphin has a dolphinui.rc, Kate has 16x16 icons, Okular has 16x16 and 32x32 icons |
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[16:42] <annma> only apps with specific icons will have icons there |
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[16:43] <annma> generic icons are elsewhere |
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[16:43] <annma> Kate has only generic icons |
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[16:43] <annma> try another Edu app if you have one, KLettres for example |
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[16:43] <ulysses> apt-cache policy rocs says it is 4.8.2 |
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[16:44] <ulysses> but kate is 4.8.3 e.g |
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[16:48] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/audiocd-kio] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/copyright fix copyright syntax |
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[16:53] <ulysses> I asked someone to install Rocs, he has Ubuntu and the icons appears for him |
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[16:57] <ulysses> annma: KLettres screenshot: http://imageshack.us/f/189/kelttres.png/ |
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[16:57] <annma> same |
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[16:57] <annma> icons missing |
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[16:58] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/audiocd-kio] Philip Muškovac * 5 * debian/ (7 files) * add libaudiocdplugins4 and audiocd-kio-dev packages * add missing install files * used versioned breaks/replaces against kdemultimedia-kio-plugins |
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[16:58] <annma> the icons exist since ages, I am the KLettresdevel so I know |
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[16:58] <annma> ulysses: your installation has a problem |
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[16:59] <ulysses> strange |
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[17:09] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1004593] LFE disappears on 5.1, 4.0 has LFE channel, high pitched squeals (bit shifting?), several ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1004593 (by Abraham Mara) |
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[17:09] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1004593 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "LFE disappears on 5.1, 4.0 has LFE channel, high pitched squeals (bit shifting?), several versions" [Undecided,Opinion] |
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[17:13] <yofel> apachelogger: did you make kubotu overly verbose? |
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[17:14] <BluesKaj> must be analog LFE |
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[17:16] <yofel> Riddell: while dep5 is lax in a few places, please note that the rule for empty lines is the same as in the control file |
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[17:17] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ffmpegthumbs] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) * add libswscale-dev and pkg-config to build-depends * fix copyright syntax |
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[18:01] * yofel dives into 4.8.80 |
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[18:05] <JontheEchidna> my upgrade's almost done, so far so good |
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[18:06] <JontheEchidna> I don't think I've ever had a KDE +1 release go so smoothly. :) |
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[18:19] <yofel> re |
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[18:20] <yofel> kde-base-artwork is missing and according to the widget I have no battery, but works otherwise |
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[18:24] <yofel> (the upgrade went without errors btw XD) |
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[18:24] <annma> the battery missing is fixed |
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[18:24] <annma> we reverted a commit |
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[18:25] <yofel> ah, then perfect :) |
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[18:25] <annma> the Quality Team we set up is working hard |
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[18:28] <annma> if yo uhave bugs to submit don't forget to set up the version and if it's a regression you can add the keyword "regression" |
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[18:39] <yofel> will do |
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[18:42] <shadeslayer> yofel: strangely enough that bug was present in neon as well |
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[18:42] <shadeslayer> oh wait, it's in KDE 4.8.3 as well |
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[18:42] <shadeslayer> nvm |
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[18:49] <shadeslayer> O_O |
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[18:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: is all of 4.8.80 done? |
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[18:50] <yofel> most of it so it's upgradable |
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[18:50] <shadeslayer> ... |
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[18:50] <yofel> oh, pairs is missig |
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[18:50] <afiestas> mmm |
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[18:50] <yofel> *missing |
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[18:51] <shadeslayer> yofel: are you working on calligra/digikam? |
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[18:51] <afiestas> anybody knows if gtalk is working on old good kopete? |
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[18:51] <afiestas> (Kubuntu 12.04) |
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[18:51] <shadeslayer> it should |
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[18:51] <yofel> calligra, feel free to take digikam if you want, but make it close #885324 |
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[18:51] <afiestas> shadeslayer: can you test it? or are youusing it? |
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[18:51] <shadeslayer> yeah, I was looking at that bug :) |
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[18:51] <afiestas> because it doesn't for me, no error so far |
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[18:51] <shadeslayer> afiestas: let me test |
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[18:52] <afiestas> thx |
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[18:52] <shadeslayer> afiestas: which KDE version? |
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[18:52] <afiestas> mm whatever kubuntu 12.04 has |
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[18:52] <afiestas> in master it works for sure I have it configured in my workstation for when ktp breaks xd |
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[18:56] <shadeslayer> afiestas: yes, wfm |
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[18:56] <afiestas> wfm? |
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[18:56] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: Happy Birthday! :D |
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[18:56] <shadeslayer> afiestas: works for em |
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[18:56] <shadeslayer> s/em/me/ |
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[18:56] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "afiestas: works for me" |
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[18:57] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: thank you, you are just 3 hours early :) |
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[18:57] <shadeslayer> stupid humans and their time zones |
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[18:57] <afiestas> shadeslayer: talk.google.com, 5223 and al 3 checkboxes checked? |
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[18:57] <shadeslayer> afiestas: heh, yeah :D |
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[18:57] <afiestas> pse |
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[18:57] <afiestas> maybe after update |
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[18:58] <shadeslayer> afiestas: this is on 4.8.3 |
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[18:58] <afiestas> after all the fine-tunning I've done to my worksation, KDE defaults seems mmmm |
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[18:59] <afiestas> don't wanna say something ugly but ,mmmm moderately horrible? |
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[18:59] <afiestas> xD |
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[18:59] <afiestas> for my taste ofc |
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[19:02] <starbuck> afiestas: docs or stfu :P |
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[19:03] <afiestas> starbuck: I'd rather do patches to change the defaults :p |
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[19:04] <afiestas> since I will have to work on the laptop for the rest of the week I will have time to check what I have changed in the workstation and needs to be changed upstream |
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[19:09] <skaet> Riddell, Alpha 1's now published. |
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[19:16] <afiestas> shadeslayer: update + restart fixed the kopete thing |
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[19:16] <shadeslayer> heh |
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[19:16] <afiestas> let's see if rekonq wants to play youtube videos now (sans flash) |
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[19:17] <shadeslayer> doubt it |
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[19:17] <JontheEchidna> my 4.8.80 upgrade seems to have gone well :) |
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[19:17] <JontheEchidna> aside from the battery regression mentioned earlier |
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[19:19] <afiestas> what's is this package-updater pckager? |
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[19:19] <annma> battery bug report is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301033 |
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[19:19] <ubottu> KDE bug 301033 in widget-battery "Battery Not present" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] |
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[19:19] <shadeslayer> hah |
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[19:19] <shadeslayer> those black buttons look so out of place |
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[19:19] <afiestas> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/06/07/plasma-windoweddT2070.png |
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[19:20] <JontheEchidna> afiestas: that'll download flash for you |
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[19:20] <afiestas> I didn't ask for it :S |
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[19:21] <JontheEchidna> apparently you did... |
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[19:21] <afiestas> I mean, I click on the thing because it said "updates" |
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[19:21] <afiestas> and I do want updates, I don't consider flash one xD |
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[19:24] <JontheEchidna> yofel, Riddell: now that the archive is open again and we have (at least) two confirmed good upgrades to 4.8.80 from ninjas, I'll start uploading the packages to quantal |
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[19:24] <JontheEchidna> feel free to join in ;-) |
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[19:24] <shadeslayer> yofel: any reason why you have a copyright in digikam-2.5.0/debian/copyright ? |
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[19:24] <yofel> JontheEchidna: wait |
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[19:25] <JontheEchidna> ok |
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[19:25] <yofel> pairs should be added to kdeutils metapackage in meta-kde |
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[19:25] <yofel> it's not packaged yet though |
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[19:25] <yofel> but adding it should be fine |
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[19:26] <JontheEchidna> that would technically make the kdeutils package uninstallable |
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[19:26] <yofel> shadeslayer: because we never merged from debian after I re-packaged 2.0 I think |
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[19:26] <shadeslayer> okie |
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[19:26] <yofel> and I've dumped copyright assignment |
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[19:26] <JontheEchidna> wouldn't it be better to wait until it's packaged, and then do a new release of meta-kde with paris included? |
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[19:26] <JontheEchidna> s/paris/pairs |
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[19:27] <yofel> well, currently meta-kde has kdemultimedia too, which is uninstallable as well until audiocd-kio is through SOURCE NEW |
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[19:27] <Daskreech> Hi just checking in on the build status for KDE 4.8.80 |
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[19:27] <yofel> so I don't think it matters much |
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[19:27] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: we're just discussing what's left |
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[19:27] <yofel> we'll have held packages in any case |
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[19:28] <JontheEchidna> yeah, probably not that important in an alpha |
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[19:28] <yofel> hm |
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[19:29] <yofel> JontheEchidna: sorry, pairs is kdeedu |
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[19:29] <JontheEchidna> ah, right |
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[19:29] <JontheEchidna> I'll start by throwing kde4libs up, then your or me or whoever can do the meta-kde update |
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[19:29] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: ah that's what I was picking up on :) |
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[19:30] <yofel> I'll do it then |
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[19:30] <JontheEchidna> sounds good |
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[19:31] <JontheEchidna> yofel: do we remove the "a" suffix on the upstream versions? |
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[19:31] <yofel> I don't think so |
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[19:31] <JontheEchidna> ok |
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[19:32] <JontheEchidna> that would kind of screw -ninjas users |
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[19:32] <yofel> did we have anything new otherwise? kdemultimedia is there, I added paris, and kde-base-artwork belongs into kubuntu-meta IMO |
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[19:33] <JontheEchidna> I think that's it for new stuff |
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[19:34] <yofel> *pairs |
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[19:34] * yofel wonders how often he already mistyped that... |
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[19:34] <JontheEchidna> :P |
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[19:34] <Daskreech> I'll check in later |
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[19:35] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 40 * debian/ (changelog control) releasing version 5:76~pre1ubuntu1 |
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[19:36] <yofel> Daskreech: we're uploading now, but things might be broken for a while as there are several new package again that replace older ones |
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[19:37] <JontheEchidna> btw, looks like Debian's going to do qt3 removal this weekend |
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[19:37] <debfx> yofel: we might want to name the binary package of kde-base-artwork like the source package |
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[19:37] <yofel> didn't we? |
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[19:38] <debfx> ah it's not uploaded at all |
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[19:38] <yofel> I mean the dependency on it (if what I said was ambigous) |
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[19:39] <debfx> in bzr I called it kde-ksplash-default but I think kde-base-artwork would be better |
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[19:41] <JontheEchidna> btw, I did a reboot after the 4.8.80 upgrade and didn't get a ksplash |
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[19:41] <debfx> right, because kde-base-artwork is missing |
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[19:41] <yofel> because the new one is in kde-base-artwork |
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[19:41] <JontheEchidna> ah, ok |
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[19:42] <debfx> we probably don't want to split the files in kde-base-artwork in multiple packages |
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[19:51] <CIA-44> [kdelibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607195116-20fpgc37jmywca7j * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 |
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[19:56] <JontheEchidna> hmm: kmix: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeinit4_kmix.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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[19:57] <yofel> *blink* |
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[19:58] <yofel> -.- |
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[19:58] <yofel> sorry |
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[20:00] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kmix] Philip Muškovac * 2 * debian/kmix.install add missing libkdeinit4 files |
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[20:00] <yofel> that's what happens if you rewrite the install file and have not-installed still in place... |
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[20:09] <shadeslayer> heh, fun, VKontakte seems to be disabled and yet the install files and the appropriate rules seem to be in place |
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[20:10] <shadeslayer> hah, the series file doesn't apply the patch |
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[20:21] <CIA-44> [kactivities] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607202106-ckr8pt5cbl7314w6 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 |
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[20:21] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pairs] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (11 files in 3 dirs) import pairs packaging |
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[20:25] <yofel> /tmp/buildd/calligra-2.4.90/plugins/reporting/maps/KoReportItemMaps.h:32:26: fatal error: MarbleWidget.h: No such file or directory |
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[20:25] <yofel> *headdesk* |
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[20:25] <yofel> do they enjoy making calligra fail to build because of marble for just about every release? -.- |
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[20:26] <CIA-44> [kdepimlibs] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607202622-54bsa2feq2bbyzj9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 |
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[20:38] <CIA-44> [kate] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607203818-duqizbm5y6ftc1o9 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 |
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[20:40] <JontheEchidna> hmm |
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[20:40] <JontheEchidna> yofel: should soprano have been uploaded at this point? |
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[20:41] * JontheEchidna fears that he dun goofed >.> |
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[20:42] <yofel> well, probably for kdepimlibs |
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[20:42] <yofel> considering we're almost at 4.8.85, I would just upload soprano now and fix things later |
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[20:43] <yofel> iirc there's only one thing that depends on newest soprano anyway |
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[20:43] <JontheEchidna> nepomuk-core? |
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[20:47] <yofel> yeah |
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[20:51] <JontheEchidna> hmm, I can't seem to download soprano from ninjas via the web interface |
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[20:51] <JontheEchidna> yofel: would you mind uploading it to quantal? |
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[20:51] <yofel> can't, needs universe upload rights |
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[20:51] <yofel> ah wait |
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[20:51] <yofel> soprano? |
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[20:51] <JontheEchidna> yea |
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[20:51] <yofel> can do |
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[20:51] <JontheEchidna> thanks |
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[20:52] <JontheEchidna> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+files/soprano_2.7.56%2Bdfsg.1-0ubuntu1~ppa2.dsc is what I tried, but it does some sort of 404 |
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[20:52] <yofel> you can't dget from ninjas |
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[20:52] * yofel uses apt-get source |
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[20:53] <JontheEchidna> I'm just trying to click the link on the ppa website :P |
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[20:53] <yofel> oh, dunno ^^ |
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[20:53] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: via chrome? |
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[20:53] <JontheEchidna> thought that's a good point, I should set up a deb-src entry to avoid this in the future |
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[20:53] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: yeah |
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[20:53] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: bug in chrome iirc |
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[20:53] <shadeslayer> a really old one |
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[20:53] <JontheEchidna> :/ |
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[20:53] <shadeslayer> use rekonq |
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[20:53] <shadeslayer> :D |
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[20:54] <debfx> or use the new pull-ninjas-source from kubuntu-dev-tools |
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[21:13] <CIA-44> [libkdcraw] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607211336-kzu2f1vzifr5941l * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:14] <shadeslayer> Anyone planning to ARM builds? |
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[21:14] * shadeslayer has to check if digikam 2.6.0 compiles |
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[21:17] <CIA-44> [libkexiv2] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607211745-rx5sz18vy2wkl2r5 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:20] <CIA-44> [libksane] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212020-dwqnmgf2993kqc87 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:23] <CIA-44> [libkdeedu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212323-g7axr8su7tksbupl * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:23] * yofel wonders why dpkg doesn't depend on quilt if you're using 3.0 (quilt) ... |
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[21:23] <micahg> yofel: internal implementation AIUI |
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[21:26] <CIA-44> [libkcompactdisc] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212554-qicc368s2w69keex * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:26] <yofel> ah... |
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[21:27] <yofel> seems to be so indeed, that explains some things |
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[21:28] <CIA-44> [libkcddb] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607212824-6i0alxq0u29gkzk1 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:30] <CIA-44> [libkipi] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607213020-xfm8ewbxcttzsi1b * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:36] <CIA-44> [kde-baseapps] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607213557-88fe4gj4kb0jub8v * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:39] <shadeslayer> ScottK: how come there's no pkg-kde-tools installed on the arm boxes? |
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[21:39] <CIA-44> [nepomuk-core] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607213947-8nxzzorts8n8k0jn * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80a-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:40] <ScottK> shadeslayer: IIRC, there is. Perhaps it's just not new enough. |
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[21:41] <shadeslayer> dh: unable to load addon kde: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/kde.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 8) line 2. |
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[21:41] <ScottK> pkg-kde-tools_0.9.3ubuntu4_all.deb is installed. |
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[21:42] <shadeslayer> whoa, that's *old* |
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[21:43] <yofel> debfx: are you going to upload pkg-kde-tools? |
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[21:43] <ScottK> Current pkg-kde-tools needs a newer dpkg than is available there. |
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[21:44] <shadeslayer> :S |
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[21:44] * ScottK has to go soon, so feel free to update it. |
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[21:44] <CIA-44> [okular] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120607214426-qalp3e40tll8fdxa * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 |
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[21:45] <shadeslayer> Can't even emulate armel using qemu on my VPS because it'll cry about running out of memory |
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[21:45] <shadeslayer> ScottK: just needs a newer dpkg? |
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[21:46] <ScottK> Yes, but I don't want to backport dpkg. |
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[21:46] <ScottK> Maybe you can make it work well enough without libdpkg-perl |
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[21:46] <BluesKaj> got a ppa for 4.8.4 ? |
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[21:46] <shadeslayer> I'm too scared to backport dpkg because if I mess it up it'll render the system unusable |
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[21:47] <shadeslayer> *it might render the |
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[21:47] <BluesKaj> ninja? |
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[21:47] <yofel> it is in ninjas for precise |
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[21:48] <shadeslayer> btw is there a script that uploads all the new tars? |
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[21:48] <shadeslayer> or do you do it by hand? |
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[21:48] <yofel> you mean archive uploads? |
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[21:49] <shadeslayer> yes |
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[21:49] <yofel> I work half-automated from bzr using this: http://paste.kde.org/495104/ |
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[21:50] <BluesKaj> yofel, ok , so I'll stay out of it on quantal ... I have precise on the other drive , so I'll switch over |
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[21:50] <yofel> quantal is just getting 4.8.80 |
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[21:50] <BluesKaj> yes , I have it |
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[21:51] <JontheEchidna> most of the first-level blue nodes are up now |
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[21:52] <JontheEchidna> I won't be able to do workspace due to my crappy connection |
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[21:52] <yofel> I'll do oxygen-icons, that'll keep me busy for a bit |
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[21:53] <shadeslayer> -> sleep, digikam still building, will test and upload tomorrow |
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[22:00] <CIA-44> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 101 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.80-0ubuntu1 |
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[22:03] <Daskreech> yofel: Back ;) thanks. I'm showing KDE off at a Conference this weekend (Konference?) and decided to use Kubuntu. Others are doing Debian and Fedora. Hopefully I can get KDE 4.9 installed by say mid day tomorrow so I can play with it and know what not to show off as it crashes. I think Debian can handle the KDE 4.8 series fine |
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[22:15] <Riddell> Daskreech: dunno how soon backports will be done |
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[22:15] <Riddell> I'd like to do them first thing tomorrow but they always take longer than expected |
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[22:17] <Daskreech> Of course they do :) |
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[22:18] <Daskreech> Riddell: I may consider the hairy choice of jumping to +1 to get 4.8.80 |
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[22:19] <Riddell> I'm having no problems with the alpha of +1 |
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[22:19] <Riddell> and you can install it from ninjas if necessary |
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[22:21] <Riddell> debfx: 4.8.4 is out |
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[22:24] <genii-around> Daskreech: |
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[22:25] <Daskreech> hi genii-around |
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[22:25] * genii-around makes more coffee |
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[22:47] <Daskreech> Coffee is good |
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