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[00:11] <aquarius> mhall119, ping
[00:14] <aquarius> mhall119, if I want to write a music scope with Singlet, (a) is there any documentation other than http://mhall119.com/2012/01/singlet-part-0-2/ and (b) should I use quickly-unity-lens-template to build it even though I'm not writing a lens?
[00:15] <aquarius> it's not at all clear to me how I find out what my scope is meant to generate, for an existing lend
[00:15] <aquarius> lens
[00:30] <mhall119> aquarius: the quickly template is for lenses only
[00:31] <mhall119> it can probably be re-used for scopes, but you'll have to do some manual tweaking
[00:31] <aquarius> mhall119, ok, cool. YOur blog post says things like "Singlet uses this to build DBus names and paths, and also to know where to install your scope.", implying that I can make singlet generate a .scope file for me; is this so?
[00:32] <aquarius> I mean, if I just write a python file which imports singlet and implements a scope, I don't know how or where to install it...
[00:33] <mhall119> aquarius: that was stripped from Singlet and put into the quicly template
[00:34] <aquarius> ah. but the quickly template doesn't do scopes. :(
[00:34] <mhall119> not yet
[00:34] <aquarius> so... how do I create a music scope with Singlet?
[00:34] <aquarius> sorry if I sound stupid here, but I don't know what I'm doing. :)
[00:34] <mhall119> right now, you write it from scratch
[00:35] <mhall119> aquarius: ping me in the morning (my time) and I'll walk you through it
[00:35] <aquarius> right, OK. Are there any examples of Singlet music scopes? I have found a couple of examples of Singlet scopes which go with a custom Singlet lens, and Python music scopes which *don't* use Singlet :)
[00:36] <mhall119> not music, no
[00:36] <aquarius> happy to chat tomorrow though :)
[00:36] <mhall119> tthe only concern you'd have it getting the category indexes right
[00:37] <aquarius> on the list of things I do not know is htf I find out what a scope needs to return to satisfy a particular lens, without rtfs. But this can wait for tomorrow ;)
[00:37] <mhall119> yeah, you have to rtfs, which sucks
[00:37] <aquarius> heh
[00:38] <aquarius> I shall write a mini qml client for now, and talk to you tomorrow about dash integration ;)
[00:39] <mhall119> sounds good
[00:39] <mhall119> you should probably sleep too, at some point
[00:41] <aquarius> in theory, yeah
[00:41] <aquarius> I'm on holiday, though :)
[00:41] <aquarius> two-day public holiday in the UK!
[00:41] <aquarius> and tomorrow I might go out and buy myself a Porsche. :)
[00:41] <aquarius> so staying up late to write a music player is perfectly rational :P
[00:57] <mhall119> lol
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[10:47] <aquarius> mhall119, I'm not sure when your morning starts. :)
[11:21] <mhall119> aquarius: in a couple hours
[11:21] * aquarius laughs and laughs
[11:21] <aquarius> go away then :)
[11:52] * dpm chuckles
[13:44] <aquarius> mhall119, if you're around at some point, say the word :)
[14:03] <mhall119> aquarius: I'm around, but about to jump into meetings
[14:07] <aquarius> mhall119, ah, ok
[15:29] <kola911> hi guys
[15:33] <dpm> hi kola911
[15:34] <kola911> umm I wanted to ask something ?
[15:34] <dpm> kola911, feel free to ask
[15:34] <kola911> I am doing scjp
[15:35] <kola911> and am about to take the exams
[15:35] <kola911> so I believe that I am capable of making simple application
[15:35] <kola911> so I wonder if I can get into any existing java projects
[15:35] <kola911> ?
[15:35] <kola911> to help ubuntu
[15:38] <dpm> kola911, sure. We generally recommend Python for new app developers, but if you're now new and are experienced in Java already, you can of course submit a Java app
[15:39] <dpm> Check out http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[15:39] <dpm> and http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish
[15:39] <kola911> thnxx
[15:48] <kola911> dpm cant I get involved in group based projects or application development ?
[16:02] <dpm> kola911, I would recommend you to read http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/ and the information on the site. It should teach you how to use collaborative tools such as Launchpad to develop your app and get other people to contribute
[16:05] <kola911> thnx a lot
[16:05] <kola911> I got it :)
[16:16] <dpm> cool :-)
[18:16] <pavolzetor> hi, could you help me about IPC in ubuntu
[18:16] <pavolzetor> I use dbus, but how do people figure out sync?
[18:17] <pavolzetor> for example, when I call method, find_girl(), which return name, I will not get same thing through signal
[18:22] <pavolzetor> is it better to prevent service to send signals while it is adding feeds?