| [00:04] <jbicha> kenvandine: seahorse 3.4 is working great here now | |
| [00:12] <TheMuso> /cr/c | |
| [01:18] <cyphermox> robert_ancell: hey | |
| [01:18] <cyphermox> got your email, starting to fix this up now | |
| [01:33] <robert_ancell> cyphermox, ta | |
| [01:40] <cyphermox> robert_ancell: uploaded, building now | |
| [01:40] <cyphermox> I'll look at gnome-phone-manager tomorrow ;) | |
| [01:41] * cyphermox signs off, attempts signing in to D3 :P | |
| === jalcine is now known as Jacky | |
| [02:18] <RAOF> Grrrr. | |
| [02:18] <RAOF> gnome-keyring-daemon changing its interface out from under the libraries is annoying. | |
| [02:39] <TheMuso> RAOF: YOu mean things like the ssh agent no longer working kinda change? | |
| [02:40] <dobey> oh fun. i bet it breaks ubuntu-sso-client again too | |
| [02:42] <RAOF> TheMuso: Correct. | |
| [02:43] <TheMuso> Yeah, fun times. | |
| [02:43] <RAOF> TheMuso: And all my launchpadlib stuff not being able to find my credentials. And evolution not finding my credentials, and seahorse showing a very odd view of my passwords. | |
| [02:43] <TheMuso> oh ouch. | |
| [02:44] <jbicha> RAOF: oh you don't like the new seahorse? | |
| [02:44] <RAOF> jbicha: I'd prefer a seahorse that works :) | |
| [02:45] <jbicha> seahorse works here... | |
| [02:47] <RAOF> Am I the victim of mirror skew? What seahorse version are you talking about? | |
| [02:49] <jbicha> seahorse 3.4.1-1; it's a major redesign | |
| [02:50] * TheMuso sees a gnome-keyring update after syncing his local mirror. | |
| [02:50] * RAOF adds archive.ubuntu.com to sources.list | |
| [02:51] <jbicha> ah, yeah, gnome-keyring, seahorse, & gcr needed to be updated at the same time | |
| [02:52] <TheMuso> Ah yes! New gnome-keyring sees ssh agent working again. | |
| [03:03] <RAOF> Oh, wow. They really have changed seahorse, haven't they. | |
| [04:02] <TheMuso> grrr something mucks up metacity settings at every reboot for my session. I have to delete the metacity gconf settings files to restore proper behavior. | |
| [04:05] <RAOF> Would it be too much to ask for GNOME stable releases to really only fix bugs and not change behaviour? | |
| [04:06] <TheMuso> THis is in quantal... | |
| [04:08] * RAOF is processing the SRU queue | |
| [04:09] <TheMuso> ah ok. | |
| [04:09] <TheMuso> I knew that, but was not sure if you were talking about my comment. | |
| [04:10] <TheMuso> But stable GNOME updates changing behaviour has happened before afaik. | |
| [04:10] <TheMuso> I don't know how it was dealt with though. | |
| [04:21] <RAOF> Laney: You're not core-dev?! | |
| [08:51] <Laney> RAOF: Indeed. I got the cli-mono packageset which meant that I could upload everything I needed to touch often in main. | |
| [08:51] <RAOF> Fair enough. | |
| [08:51] <Laney> However that is probably changing :P | |
| [08:52] <geser> RAOF: he knows how the DMB works and avoids to start his core-dev application :) | |
| [08:53] <Laney> actually I did start it the other day | |
| [08:53] <Laney> you might be able to guess the URL | |
| [08:53] <geser> oh | |
| [08:54] <Laney> I still have a healthy fear of the DMB though … | |
| === chaoticuk_ is now known as chaoticuk | |
| [13:31] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, now to break firefox in quantal! | |
| [13:33] <MrChrisDruif> Go ahead...I'm using Chromium ;-) | |
| [13:36] <chrisccoulson> i am more than happy to break that too | |
| [13:36] <chrisccoulson> well, perhaps if i cared about it ;) | |
| [13:43] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe, go ahead ;-) I've got still more back-up browsers =P | |
| [13:43] <MrChrisDruif> Not the most sophisticated, but "workable" ^_^ | |
| [13:46] <MrChrisDruif> http://lifehacker.com/5911058/the-avengers-desktop | |
| [13:46] <MrChrisDruif> Note: UBUNTU desktop | |
| [13:47] <dobey> heh, whenever people do that sort of stuff, it always looks good until they start actually running applications that do more than background status monitoring :) | |
| [13:48] <dobey> well, s/good/cool/ | |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | |
| [15:01] <bcurtiswx> now that folks 0.6.9-1 is in ubuntu quantal, there is a fix in there that should make it into Precise. Do I cheery pick that fix and patch folks in precise and add an -ubuntu1 to it ? | |
| [15:01] <bcurtiswx> cherry* | |
| [15:02] <Laney> yeah, that works | |
| [15:02] <bcurtiswx> mdeslaur, thanks for the sync btw :) | |
| [15:02] <Laney> as long as precise < precise-proposed <= quantal | |
| [15:02] <geser> bcurtiswx: -2ubuntu0.1 | |
| [15:02] <mdeslaur> bcurtiswx: np | |
| [15:05] <bcurtiswx> geser, the quantal version is 0.6.9-1 i'm not understanding why that goes to -2 | |
| [15:05] <bcurtiswx> in precise | |
| [15:05] <Laney> the precise version is -2 | |
| [15:05] <Laney> so -2ubuntusomething | |
| [15:05] <Laney> 0.1 or 1 are both fine | |
| [15:06] <geser> bcurtiswx: precise has 0.6.8-2 and the usual next version for a SRU would be 0.6.8-2ubuntu0.1 | |
| [15:07] <jbicha> or you could use 0.6.9-1~precise1 if you're just backporting from Debian/quantal | |
| [15:07] <bcurtiswx> geser, ah yes. I was staring at my rmadison and.. lets just say these pain killers may be working REALLY well :) | |
| [15:08] <bcurtiswx> mornin' kenvandine | |
| [15:08] <kenvandine> good morning | |
| [15:10] <bcurtiswx> ok im trying to pull lp:ubuntu/precise/folks but maybe since it was a sync thats not right because I received an error | |
| [15:11] <bcurtiswx> well branch would be the right term | |
| [15:14] <geser> that branch is the right one | |
| === marrusl_ is now known as marrusl | |
| [15:35] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, i am on it :) | |
| [15:35] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, give me 5 minutes | |
| [15:48] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, im in no rush. I'm trying to do some data manupilation on lots of datasets which are each a half GB in size :) | |
| [17:17] <chrisccoulson> w00t, closed my first WI :-) | |
| [17:18] <chrisccoulson> so,i've nearly closed as many as last cycle already! | |
| [17:46] <bcurtiswx> chrisccoulson, adding a WI of "Fix typo in next WI" and subsequently closing it, doesn't count.. :P | |
| === charles_ is now known as charles | |
| [18:30] <bcurtiswx> kenvandine, in empathy does edit->preferences still have a checkbox that says "automatically connect on startup" in precise? (I'm at work on an older release) | |
| [18:35] <kenvandine> bcurtiswx, yes | |
| [18:35] <bcurtiswx> thx | |
| === skaet_ is now known as skaet | |
| === kirkland` is now known as kirkland | |
| [19:57] <chrisccoulson> gah, ffs | |
| [20:02] <micahg> chrisccoulson: can you disable thumb2 on armel while you're at it? (or I can do it over the weekend otherwise) | |
| [20:02] <chrisccoulson> micahg, i disabled it last week | |
| [20:02] <micahg> oh, hrm | |
| [20:03] <micahg> I guess I'll have to dig at some point this cycle (shouldn't matter for older releases, so no rush) | |
| [20:03] <chrisccoulson> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head/revision/1217 | |
| [20:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, I thought I saw that :), still seems to be unhappy, so probably just needs a patch somewhere, no rush though | |
| [22:18] <jbrett> anyone here want to help me triage an apparent gdk problem, so that I may file a more intelligent bug report than "mouse gets stuck"? :) I guess I'll just explain, and then you can tell me to go to #ubuntu if asking here isn't appropriate.. | |
| [22:19] <jbrett> so, since my 12.04 upgrade, at least a couple times a day, I'll get into this mode where the window I'm using seems to grab the focus, and won't let go. I.e. I can move around the desktop, but I can't select or type into any other window. | |
| [22:20] <jbrett> whenever I click on another window, I get an entry in ~/.xsession-errors saying "Gdk-CRITICAL**: IA__gdk_window_get_events: assertion 'GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed" | |
| [22:21] <jbrett> then two following "g_object_ref" and "g_object_unref" G_IS_OBJECT failed assertions, presumably from the same presumed object. | |
| [22:22] <jbrett> what component/package do I file this against? | |
| [22:23] <chrisccoulson> jbrett, if you run the particular application with G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals, that will make the application abort on those error messages | |
| [22:23] <chrisccoulson> then you can get a stacktrace | |
| [22:23] <chrisccoulson> (as described https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace) | |
| [22:24] <jbrett> hmm, ok. I never know which application it's going to be, but I guess I can just run the whole desktop with that variable. | |
| [22:25] <jbrett> i.e. it's not application specific. This time, it happened to occur while I was in xchat, so I can type this :) | |
| [22:25] <jbrett> sometimes it's chrome, sometimes it's gnome-terminal, etc... | |
| [22:34] <chrisccoulson> jbrett, sounds more like a compiz or unity bug then tbh ;) | |
| [22:34] <chrisccoulson> i thought it was just an issue with a specific application | |
| [22:34] <chrisccoulson> but if not, then that's more difficult ;) | |
| [22:34] <bryceh> yeah was going to say sounds like a window manager issue | |
| [22:34] <bryceh> jbrett, tried it with unity2d or gnome fallback? | |
| [22:34] <jbrett> yeah, it's not specific to compiz or unity though. I tried killing unity/compiz and running metacity --replace, and the same thing happens in metacity after a few minutes. | |
| [22:35] <chrisccoulson> jbrett, how do you normally recover it? | |
| [22:35] <jbrett> so it's some underlying library thing, I guess, I just don't have a clue which library to start with. | |
| [22:35] <jbrett> I reboot :) | |
| [22:36] <jbrett> I'm tempted to blame the nvidia driver. | |
| [22:36] <chrisccoulson> jbrett, have you checked if there are any suspicious errors in dmesg? | |
| [22:36] <jbrett> yes, nothing in dmesg or syslog. | |
| [22:36] <chrisccoulson> :( | |
| [22:36] <chrisccoulson> that sucks | |
| [22:36] <jbrett> the only place I can find any errors that make sense is in ~/.xsession-errors. | |
| [22:36] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure what else to suggest. that's not really my area of expertise | |
| [22:36] <chrisccoulson> perhaps bryceh has some more ideas :) | |
| [22:37] <bryceh> well, xorg would be my next idea ;-) | |
| [22:37] <bryceh> so yeah, feel free to `ubuntu-bug xorg`, and if it's not xorg it can be moved from there | |
| [22:38] <jbrett> ok, I'll do that and see where it goes :) | |
| [22:38] <jbrett> thanks | |
| [22:38] <bryceh> jbrett, I hope it's not the nvidia driver though; that's obviously rather hard to fix... | |
| [22:38] <jbrett> no kidding. | |
| [22:38] <bryceh> if you do suspect -nvidia, try purging it and booting with just -nouveau | |
| [22:38] <jbrett> unfortunately, nouveau won't even recognize my card. | |
| [22:39] <jbrett> I'm running the identical config on another machine with nouveau, and don't see this problem, that's why I'm suspicious. | |
| [22:39] <bryceh> yep, well so much for that idea :-) | |
| [22:40] <jbrett> "identical config" means a 12.04 install with rsync'd /home -- obviously not completely identical, and different hardware.. | |
| [22:46] <bryceh> well, it's not an issue we've had many reports on (that I know of), and if it was a widespread bug I'm sure people would be reporting it; sounds pretty annoying. So it's likely something peculiar either with your hardware or your install (or just a really obscure bug) | |
| [22:51] <jbrett> yeah, I spent quite a while trying to figure out what was messed up with my config -- that's why I duplicated it on another machine. | |
| [22:51] <jbrett> but something could obviously be mucked up with the install/upgrade. | |
| [22:57] <bryceh> jbrett, yeah took a look thru all the nvidia reports we got for precise; none about mouse focus | |