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| [10:19] <dpm> I'm getting quite a lot of timeouts while translating right now. Is some maintenance going on, or something that could be causing it? | |
| [10:22] <czajkowski> hmmm | |
| [10:23] <czajkowski> dpm: let me go ask the wise ones | |
| [10:25] <wgrant> dpm: It should improve over the next half hour, maybe. | |
| [10:25] <wgrant> dpm: We've just switched to a new master database, so the caches are cold. | |
| [10:27] <dpm> ok, thanks | |
| [10:31] <rocket16> Hello guys | |
| [10:33] <rocket16> I joined launchpad, and am an user of Ubuntu 12.04. I would sincerely like to contribute the little I can, and as first of those, I would sincerely welcome the opportunity to report bugs (as those can be the easiest for a noob like me). So, can anyone please point me to some guide for reporting bugs nicely? Thanks. | |
| [10:33] <rocket16> And additionally, do I need to be the member of any team or such to report bugs? Or can I do that independently | |
| [10:33] <czajkowski> rocket16: no anyone can report bugs | |
| [10:34] <rocket16> Oh, ok. Thanks czajkowski | |
| [10:34] <czajkowski> rocket16: thanks for taking part all bug reports do help, where are you based? | |
| [10:34] <rocket16> czajkowski: You mean, my location? | |
| [10:35] <mgz> <https://dev.launchpad.net/BugHandling> has a... not-so helpful section on how to report launchpad bugs | |
| [10:35] * rocket16 feels sorry for sounding so stupid (sorry, I am kinda new to formal talks on web :( ) | |
| [10:36] <rocket16> Hm, I hope the first section will get completed soon. Thanks anyway, mgz | |
| [10:36] <czajkowski> rocket16: please dont feel stupid, we all started somewhere, yes location, we have a thinkg called loco.ubuntu.com | |
| [10:36] <czajkowski> rocket16: so there could be others in your area who can help you also | |
| [10:37] <rocket16> czajkowski: I am from Calcutta, India. And thanks for your words, they definitely helped. :) As for local communities, I have heard of them, but didn't yet take part in any. I guess I will soon join one | |
| [10:38] <czajkowski> rocket16: so the indian loco is good and you can get involve with them nigelb is one of their members | |
| [10:39] <rocket16> Ok, I will feel most honoured to be, czajkowski. :) Many thanks. | |
| [10:41] <czajkowski> rocket16: no problem | |
| [10:43] <rocket16> Oh, guys. I found this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs which might give me a headstart. I guess I should try my best to start contributing as soon as possible. | |
| [10:50] <rocket16> Ok, so I read the guide and it seems I can finally return the little I can to the Ubuntu community, for their great help and support, and most importantly this wonderful distro itself. :) Thanks everyone for your kind help and cooperation, it really helped. :) I'll be off now, and see you soon. | |
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| [11:56] <dpm> hi, could someone take care of this question? It's just a matter of changing the team owner: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/195318 | |
| [12:02] <yofel> hi, could someone please abort all recipe builds on https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/soprano please? They're stuck | |
| [12:02] <yofel> (and prevent any newer builds from happening) | |
| [12:07] <yofel> acutally nevermind, I just re-created the recipe | |
| [12:27] <czajkowski> [6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/c | |
| [12:27] <czajkowski> [6~[6~[6~/c | |
| [12:34] <StevenK> czajkowski: I didn't know you had a cat ... | |
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| [12:41] <czajkowski> [5~[5~/c | |
| [12:42] <lauraczajkowski> I may have to kill skynet | |
| [12:42] <lauraczajkowski> mrevell: can you pm me the G+ link when you;'re due to start | |
| [12:42] <lauraczajkowski> please | |
| [12:43] <mrevell> lauraczajkowski, matthewrevell says yes | |
| [12:43] <mrevell> :) | |
| [14:58] <bdmurray> czajkowski: I'm having a hard time with the API and bug attachments | |
| [14:58] <czajkowski> oh | |
| [14:59] <bdmurray> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/992481/ | |
| [14:59] <bdmurray> that happens regularly with different attachments on a bug | |
| [14:59] <czajkowski> bdmurray: let me go an ask ok | |
| [14:59] <bdmurray> czajkowski: okay, thanks | |
| [15:00] <bdmurray> the server name seems to change too | |
| [15:01] <czajkowski> bdmurray: nods, I know they were doing stuff earlier on but not sure if this was being effected | |
| [15:01] <bdmurray> its been on going for a week or so | |
| [15:03] <czajkowski> well if I dont hear back from webops - we can file a bug and get it looked at ok | |
| [15:14] <joey> oy czajkowski | |
| [15:14] <czajkowski> joey: herrrro | |
| [15:15] <joey> czajkowski: can you tell me if there is an open bug that pertains to "owners of a team, who have been deactivated in +members, getting email as if they were active members" ? | |
| [15:15] <joey> czajkowski: I'm getting spammed now from LP | |
| [15:16] <czajkowski> hmm | |
| [15:16] <czajkowski> never heard that lemmie look and see | |
| [15:18] <czajkowski> joey: you getting mail from what team though? | |
| [15:18] <joey> czajkowski: in Linaro to help clean up a bunch of stuff we changed the owners of all official teams to ~linaro-sysadmins | |
| [15:18] <mrevell> matsubara, Do you know about joey's issue? | |
| [15:19] <joey> czajkowski: and in most of the teams we deactivated ~linaro-sysadmins from +members so they don't get email or show up on api calls | |
| [15:19] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/816196 | |
| [15:19] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 816196 in Launchpad itself "new / deactivated admins of teams are not notified to the owner" [Low,Triaged] | |
| [15:19] <joey> czajkowski: however in most cases we're still getting email | |
| [15:19] <czajkowski> is the one I can find | |
| [15:19] <joey> it's basically a rubber duck work-around to self-manage | |
| [15:19] <joey> and so far it's been WONDERFUL except for the email spam | |
| [15:22] <joey> well maybe I'll file a bug and see what triaging does :-) | |
| [15:22] <bdmurray> czajkowski: I reported bug 1000805 | |
| [15:22] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1000805 in Launchpad itself "server errors accessing attachments of private bug reports" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1000805 | |
| [15:23] <czajkowski> bdmurray: thanks | |
| [15:24] <matsubara> mrevell, looking. hi joey | |
| [15:24] <joey> howdy matsubara | |
| [15:24] <czajkowski> bdmurray: thanks and passed it on | |
| [15:25] <matsubara> joey, maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/795141? | |
| [15:25] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 795141 in Launchpad itself "Former team members still get MP notification e-mails" [High,Triaged] | |
| [15:25] <joey> matsubara: I bet that's related but not what I'm seeing. I'm seeing bug mail presently | |
| [15:27] <matsubara> joey, this seems related too bug 315563 | |
| [15:27] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 315563 in Launchpad itself "can't unsubscribe from team-related bug-activity emails" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315563 | |
| [15:29] <joey> matsubara: yeah that's getting closer | |
| [15:29] <joey> matsubara: I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1000808 | |
| [15:29] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1000808 in Launchpad itself "Owners who are deactivated in +members still receive bugmail " [Undecided,New] | |
| [15:33] <joey> btw Hi mrevell! Good to see | |
| [15:33] <joey> matsubara: obviously that's a PITA for the linaro sysadmins but there is a work around. | |
| [15:34] <mrevell> joey, Hey man, good to see you too :) Looking forward to HK? | |
| [15:34] <joey> mrevell: the event will be fun but I'm dreading the flights :-) | |
| [15:34] <joey> mrevell: I've been to HK before but technically this time we're outside of the main city | |
| [15:34] <joey> mrevell: on a beach | |
| [15:35] <czajkowski> joey: oh a holiday :p | |
| [15:35] <mrevell> Yeah, flights are not fun. But a beach sounds good :) We all know you'll have plenty of time for that, right? :) | |
| [15:37] <matsubara> joey, could you add a copy of one of the emails you received to the bug report? | |
| [15:38] <czajkowski> joey: mind if I duplicate yours to the main one and add content to it there | |
| [15:41] <joey> there's a main one? | |
| [15:41] <joey> matsubara: there is nothing special but yeah let me find a few | |
| [15:42] <czajkowski> joey: https://launchpad.net/bugs/315563 | |
| [15:42] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 315563 in Launchpad itself "can't unsubscribe from team-related bug-activity emails" [High,Triaged] | |
| [15:43] <matsubara> joey, just to make sure, the deactivated owner is not set as the bug supervisor/security contact for the project, right? | |
| [15:45] <joey> matsubara: from what I can see so far, that's correct. You want full headers? | |
| [15:45] <joey> matsubara: maybe a pastebin would be better | |
| [15:47] <joey> czajkowski: I don't know that it's the same bug | |
| [15:49] <joey> matsubara: I also found this for BPs as well. I put 3 pastes into https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1000808 | |
| [15:49] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 315563 in Launchpad itself "duplicate for #1000808 can't unsubscribe from team-related bug-activity emails" [High,Triaged] | |
| [15:57] <matsubara> joey, looking at the emails you pasted, seems bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/781729 is related | |
| [15:57] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 781729 in Launchpad itself "Direct subscription controls are (mostly) ineffectual if subscribed via a team with a contact address" [High,Triaged] | |
| [15:57] <joey> matsubara: but the teams are not subscribed :-) | |
| [15:57] <joey> matsubara: they are just the owner | |
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| [18:34] <GeorgeJetson> it would be nice to be able to delete a project you created | |
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| [20:35] <psusi> I got an email half an hour ago about a private bug ( it shouldn't be private, I was going to make it public ) filed against grub2, yet when I try to open the bug, it tells me it doesn't exist or I don't have access. What gives? It is bug #1000959 | |
| [20:35] <ubot5> Error: Launchpad bug 1000959 could not be found | |
| [20:36] <dobey> psusi: didn't we explain this to you the other day? :) | |
| [20:36] <psusi> no ;) | |
| [20:37] <psusi> there was some wild conjecture that some bugs may have been private and reassigned without telling me, but I find it hard to believe that keeps happening, and going by the email I did get about this bug, there is no reason it should be private, nor a reason it should have been reassigned | |
| [20:38] <psusi> and it was only filed half an hour ago | |
| [20:38] <dobey> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/15/%23launchpad.html#t18:40 | |
| [20:39] <psusi> it seems very unlikely that in that time someone incorrectly reassigned it to another package, so if someone could actually look at it and see, that would be helpful | |
| [20:39] <kiko> psusi, if that's the case, then a) the bug was made private between the time your email was sent and the time you looked at the bug or b) there's a bug | |
| [20:39] <kiko> I used to be able to See All bugs | |
| [20:39] <kiko> but now it needs to be escalated to IS | |
| [20:39] <dobey> it's more likely that whatever team you're on, that /could/ see the bug, got removed from the bug | |
| [20:40] <psusi> kiko: that's what I'm thinking.. bug... the email I got did mention that it was filed as a private bug, but it shouldn't be | |
| [20:40] <dobey> or there's a bug in the new sharing stuff, and that's how you're actually seeing anything at all; but i deal with private bugs all the time and haven't noticed any issues, either | |
| [20:41] <psusi> dobey: again, it seems rather unlikely that the bug was reassigned in that short time when there is no evidence that it was incorrectly assigned in the first place | |
| [20:42] <dobey> psusi: reassigned? | |
| [20:42] <dobey> i didn't say anything about assignment :) | |
| [20:43] <psusi> dobey: since I'm a member of ubuntu-bugcontrol, and subscribed to grub2, I should have access to bugs assigned to ubuntu/grub2, right? unless someone assigned it to another package/distribution | |
| [20:43] <dobey> psusi: if you open the e-mail for that bug, and look at the headers, what does the one for "X-Launchpad-reason" (or whatever is appropriately similar to that meaning) say? | |
| [20:43] <dobey> psusi: unless the team was unsubscribed from a private bug | |
| [20:44] <psusi> X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale: Subscriber (grub2 in Ubuntu) | |
| [20:44] <dobey> then the team wouldn't be able to see it | |
| [20:44] <psusi> which team? ubuntu-bugcontrol? | |
| [20:44] <dobey> yes, and/or you specifically | |
| [20:44] <dobey> i can't see the bug, so i can't say either | |
| [20:45] <psusi> you can unsubscribe ubuntu-bugcontrol from bugs in ubuntu? that seems... broken... | |
| [20:47] <psusi> hrm... I got a second email about the bug also that just has a line with "-- =" and the normal footer | |
| [20:52] <dobey> well if it's any consolation, i also can't see the bug, and i'm also in ubuntu-bug-control and ubuntu-crashes-universe | |
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