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| [00:26] <Logan_> When I'm patching a package, do I need to update the series file in debian/patches, or will the package maintainer do that after merging? | |
| [00:28] <jelmer> hi Logan_ ; if you're adding a file in debian/patches it's usually a good idea to update the series file too | |
| [00:28] <Logan_> Aw, okay. :-P I already proposed it for merging. :-( | |
| [00:28] * Logan_ fixes. | |
| [00:28] <Logan_> My first patch, so I have no idea what I'm doing. :-P | |
| [00:29] <Logan_> (Well, hopefully some idea.) | |
| [00:29] <jelmer> Logan_: it's not the end of the world, I'm sure whoever reviews it knows how to update the series file too :) | |
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| [00:35] <penguin42> I'd love to know why flash pauses when I boot a vm | |
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| [03:17] <clausen> how can I figure out the CFLAGS used to build a .deb? | |
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| [05:57] <hyperair> hmmmm how is this multiarch arch:all dependency supposed to work? | |
| [05:57] <hyperair> i tried to install acroread:i386, but it's trying to pull in acroread-common:i386 which doesn't exist because acroread-common is arch:all. | |
| [05:57] <hyperair> so i rebuilt it setting Multi-Arch: allowed as mentioned in the multiarch spec... | |
| [05:58] <hyperair> but that doesn't seem to satisfy dpkg. | |
| [05:59] <imbrandon> arch:all and arch:any are not the same i think you may want the other | |
| [06:00] <ScottK> Try installing acroread-common acroread:i386 | |
| [06:00] <hyperair> ScottK: aha, i see it. it's supposed to be Multi-Arch: foreign, not Multi-Arch: allowed. | |
| [06:00] <hyperair> Multi-Arch: allowed merely permits Depends acroread-common:i386 | |
| [06:01] <hyperair> or something | |
| [06:01] <hyperair> ScottK: and you need Multi-Arch: to be defined on arch:all packages now. | |
| [06:01] <hyperair> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec#Dependencies_involving_Architecture:_all_packages | |
| [06:02] <ScottK> Oh. | |
| [06:04] <hyperair> which.... i haven't defined on my multiarch library packages = | |
| [06:04] <hyperair> =\ | |
| [06:04] <hyperair> we should have an MBF for this or something.. | |
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| [08:49] <vibhav> Shall I cereate a patch or sync python-scipy? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-scipy/+bug/655192 | |
| [08:49] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 655192 in python-scipy (Ubuntu) "scipy.weave.inline requires python-dev to be installed" [Low,Confirmed] | |
| [08:49] <vibhav> create* | |
| [08:49] <vibhav> FYI, the package is unseeded | |
| [08:50] <Laney> what else would be in the sync? | |
| [08:50] <micahg> tons of rdeps | |
| [08:51] <vibhav> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/940778/ | |
| [08:51] <micahg> well, not tons, but quite a few :) | |
| [08:51] <vibhav> yes | |
| [08:51] <Laney> very informative changelog there | |
| [08:52] <vibhav> why? | |
| [08:52] <Laney> it doesn't say why any of the changes were made | |
| [08:52] <vibhav> ah, sarcasn :) | |
| [08:52] <vibhav> sarcasm* | |
| [08:53] <Laney> :P | |
| [08:53] <vibhav> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=651760 might help you | |
| [08:53] <ubottu> Debian bug 651760 in src:python-scipy "python-scipy: should recommend python-dev" [Minor,Fixed] | |
| [08:53] <Laney> oh, it's got a new upstream too | |
| [08:54] <vibhav> But isnt the bug a problem with the debian packaging files? | |
| [08:54] <Laney> if you sync you get everything | |
| [08:54] <Laney> i'm trying to answer your question | |
| [08:54] <vibhav> ah | |
| [08:55] <vibhav> Lets get a sync then | |
| [08:55] <vibhav> thanks | |
| [08:56] <Laney> i didn't say that. looks like at least the Ubuntu diff would still be required (so, a merge) | |
| [08:57] <vibhav> why would a ubuntu diff be required? | |
| [08:57] <Laney> have a look at our changelog and you can see what it is | |
| [08:57] <Laney> I think doing the minimal change is going to be safer | |
| [08:59] <vibhav> you mean adding the python3 packages? | |
| [09:00] <Laney> adding the new recommends | |
| [09:00] <Laney> but jtaylor didn't just upload it (instead forwarded the bug) so perhaps it isn't worthwhile | |
| [09:02] <vibhav> fine | |
| [09:02] <vibhav> Ill do the minimal change | |
| [09:06] <vibhav> Also, should I add it as a build-depend or a recommended package? | |
| [10:54] <vibhav> could anybody nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/655192 for supported Ubuntu releases? | |
| [10:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 655192 in python-scipy (Ubuntu) "scipy.weave.inline requires python-dev to be installed" [Low,Confirmed] | |
| [10:58] <jtaylor> I don't think its really SRU worthy | |
| [11:03] <vibhav> jtaylor: why? | |
| [11:03] <jtaylor> its a minor bug easily fixed by the user | |
| [11:04] <vibhav> since we are fixing it for precise, might as well get the fix in other versions | |
| [11:04] <jtaylor> SRU's are considerably more work than fixes in precise | |
| [11:04] <vibhav> ah | |
| [11:04] <vibhav> Then what about a backport? | |
| [11:06] <jtaylor> also not really enough for a backport, though backporting 0.10.1 from Q might be a good idea | |
| [11:06] <jtaylor> its a bit late to add that to precise now | |
| [11:07] <vibhav> ah | |
| [11:07] <vibhav> Well, Ill keep it for U+1 then | |
| [11:24] <vibhav> jtaylor: Is that fine? | |
| [11:24] <jtaylor> vibhav: we could fix it for precise, if my numpy branch gets merged we could add dh_numpy3 usage too | |
| [11:32] <vibhav> jtaylor: Could you give me the link to your branch? | |
| [11:33] <jtaylor> https://code.launchpad.net/~jtaylor/ubuntu/precise/python-numpy/merge-8/+merge/102970 | |
| [11:38] <Laney> it's seeded. I'm not sure that it will get in. | |
| [11:38] <jtaylor> yeah I guess its to late, but then we merge it in Q | |
| [11:38] <jtaylor> its on no image though | |
| [11:40] <Laney> yeah it is | |
| [11:40] <Laney> ask seeded-in-ubunbut | |
| [11:40] <Laney> or a correctly spelled variant thereof | |
| [11:41] <jtaylor> oh it got on the dvd :O | |
| [13:15] <raffa50> hello. what is the command for rebuilding source. i want to upload it on launchpad | |
| [13:35] <hyperair> hmm why do we have gccgo from gcc 4.7, but not gcc 4.7? =( | |
| [14:07] <raffa50> hello. what is the command for rebuilding source. i want to upload it on launchpad | |
| [14:09] <cjwatson> what exactly do you mean? Launchpad PPAs will build a source package into a binary package for you ... | |
| [14:09] <cjwatson> could you clarify? | |
| [14:10] <cjwatson> hyperair: probably because introducing all of gcc 4.7 would involve an updated libgcc1 | |
| [14:10] <hyperair> cjwatson: ah, that sucks. | |
| [14:11] <cjwatson> raffa50: perhaps https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage will help you | |
| [14:36] <clausen> I think Ubuntu 11.04 has a miscompiled ssh | |
| [14:36] <clausen> it is giving me failed MAC codes, and the openssh source code states that this is a well-known problem | |
| [14:37] <clausen> when compiling with gcc optimizations enabled (-O2) | |
| [14:37] <clausen> so it's important to compile the MAC bit without optimizations | |
| [14:37] <clausen> I only just started getting problems, so I guess I'd like to trace the build history of the package | |
| [14:37] <clausen> is there a good way to do thsi? | |
| [14:38] <clausen> (can I see how each package was built, the history of packages uploaded, etc.?) | |
| [14:44] <ScottK> clausen: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+publishinghistory | |
| [14:46] <clausen> ScottK, thanks! | |
| [14:48] <clausen> ScottK, so how can I see the CFLAGS? | |
| [14:48] <ScottK> Should be in the build logs. | |
| [14:49] <clausen> aha | |
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| [14:55] <clausen> it is indeed compiled with -O2 | |
| [14:55] <clausen> although the source only complained about -O3 and higher... | |
| [14:56] <clausen> looks like I'm going to have to do some more digging! | |
| [14:56] <clausen> is it possible to get the object files from the build? | |
| [14:58] <cjwatson> clausen: I see no such claim in the openssh source code. Where do you see it? | |
| [14:59] <cjwatson> It says you sometimes get incorrect results with -O3, not with -O2. | |
| [14:59] <cjwatson> And we don't use -O3. | |
| [14:59] <cjwatson> (I guess you mean the header comment in umac.c) | |
| [14:59] <clausen> cjwatson, yes, you are right | |
| [14:59] <clausen> nevertheless, the code doesn't work for me | |
| [14:59] <clausen> yes, umac.c | |
| [14:59] <clausen> I regularly get corruption messages | |
| [14:59] <clausen> so perhaps something else changed (eg: gcc moved some items from -O3 to -O2) | |
| [14:59] <cjwatson> I don't remember ever seeing those when I was running 11.04 | |
| [15:00] <clausen> it only just started recently | |
| [15:00] <clausen> (I'm still using 11.04 on my machine... | |
| [15:00] <cjwatson> Are you sure it isn't a problem on the server side? | |
| [15:00] <clausen> it started getting regular corruption about 2 weeks ago) | |
| [15:00] <clausen> yes, I have no trouble if I use dropbear instead of openssh | |
| [15:00] <clausen> (on the client side) | |
| [15:00] <cjwatson> After all, it's warning about a transport problem | |
| [15:00] <cjwatson> That might not signify | |
| [15:00] <clausen> I agree, it's not 100% evidence | |
| [15:01] <cjwatson> They're sufficiently different in other ways that they might not tickle the same server bugs | |
| [15:01] <clausen> but I would like to get to the bottom of this... | |
| [15:01] <clausen> (the way umac's are used shouldn't make a difference though... | |
| [15:01] <cjwatson> I suppose you could try building 12.04's openssh as a starting point for comparison | |
| [15:01] <clausen> ... it's a very simple interface) | |
| [15:02] <clausen> cjwatson, well, I could recompile myself (11.04) to see if it works :) | |
| [15:02] <clausen> I will do that | |
| [15:02] <cjwatson> Yes, though I'd be surprised if that changed anything | |
| [15:02] <clausen> different gcc? | |
| [15:02] <cjwatson> Will it in fact be? | |
| [15:02] <clausen> you would know better than me :) i don't know how the build machines are configured | |
| [15:02] <cjwatson> Last openssh upload to natty was 1 April 2011, not that far from release | |
| [15:03] <clausen> oh | |
| [15:03] <clausen> that's odd | |
| [15:03] <clausen> good point | |
| [15:04] <cjwatson> There were a few gcc-4.5 changes since then, but I wouldn't have expected major code gen fixes, though it would depend on your architecture | |
| [15:05] <clausen> ok, that's a puzzle then, why I am suddenly getting MAC corruption | |
| [15:05] <clausen> since the binary didn't change for a year | |
| [15:05] <clausen> I guess I jumped to conclusions when I saw the comment in umac.c | |
| [15:05] <cjwatson> Well, that's why I'm suggesting it might not be a problem in that binary :-) | |
| [15:05] <cjwatson> Nightmare to track down, though, I'm not experienced in that particular part of openssh | |
| [15:06] <cjwatson> What architecture is this, anyway? | |
| [15:06] <clausen> come to think of it, it might be the server side | |
| [15:06] <clausen> x86 | |
| [15:06] <clausen> (intel) | |
| [15:06] <cjwatson> OK, so shouldn't have been any relevant compiler changes | |
| [15:06] <clausen> the time-frame is similar to when I upgrade the server from 10.10 to 12.04 beta | |
| [15:06] <cjwatson> You could try winding back recent library upgrades if you still think it might be a client bug | |
| [15:07] <cjwatson> There was an eglibc update in natty a month and a half ago or so | |
| [15:07] <clausen> hmmm | |
| [15:07] <cjwatson> Or an openssl update a few days ago | |
| [15:07] <cjwatson> Bit tenuous | |
| [15:08] <clausen> I'm wary about winding back, because this particular machine is a "secure" machine | |
| [15:08] <clausen> (I guess I could clone it, and work off the clone...) | |
| [15:08] <clausen> (but that's a lot of work!) | |
| [15:08] <cjwatson> Another thing you could try is building 10.10 and 12.04 chroots on the server and starting sshd instances there on spare ports | |
| [15:09] <clausen> yes | |
| [15:09] <cjwatson> So that you can compare a bit more accurately | |
| [15:09] <clausen> that's a good idea | |
| [15:09] <cjwatson> Then possibly bisect at least at the level of uploads | |
| [15:10] <clausen> in fact, I still have 10.10 on another partition, so I can chroot to that ;) | |
| [15:10] <clausen> yes | |
| [15:10] <cjwatson> debootstrap's easy enough if not | |
| [15:10] <clausen> very good suggestion | |
| [15:10] <clausen> thanks | |
| [15:10] <cjwatson> good luck ... | |
| [15:10] <clausen> thankyou :) | |
| [15:12] <cjwatson> To answer your earlier question, the object files from the build are discarded, although you might find some debug symbols on ddebs.ubuntu.com if it happens to have a matching version | |
| [15:12] <cjwatson> (That service isn't desperately robust and it does sometimes not have matching versions) | |
| [15:22] <dupondje> Still allowed to do bugfix uploads? | |
| [15:22] <cjwatson> to unseeded packages in universe, yes | |
| [15:22] <cjwatson> otherwise ask the release team | |
| [15:23] <dupondje> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/remmina => scrolling is broken in rdp connections. Because of GDK_SCROLL_SMOOTH. | |
| [15:25] <cjwatson> that's on the desktop CD (among others) and it doesn't sound like a showstopper - I'd recommend an SRU | |
| [15:26] <dupondje> I'll prepare an SRU then :) | |
| [15:26] <dupondje> Good to have it fixed still. Quite annoying issue (for me at least ;)) | |
| [16:36] <raffa50> hello. what is the command for build the package of debian? i need to upload my software on launchpad | |
| [16:44] <astraljava> raffa50: Did you not understand the previous instructions? You don't need to build locally in order to use a PPA. | |
| [16:45] <astraljava> raffa50: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA | |
| [16:52] <vibhav> Since only 5 days are left for 12.04 , should we fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sivp/+bug/879097 in Ubuntu directly? | |
| [16:52] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 879097 in sivp (Ubuntu) "libraries are not properly loaded in etc/SIVP.start " [Undecided,Confirmed] | |
| [16:52] <vibhav> instead of getting it first into Debian? | |
| [16:52] <raffa50> uhm i found | |
| [17:02] <jtaylor> vibhav: do you have a working patch? | |
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| [18:38] <ScottK> vibhav: Yes. | |
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| [18:51] <nigelb> Do we have a name for Q yet? | |
| [18:55] <arand> nigelb: Don't think so, but it's generally around this time it gets announced iirc | |
| [18:55] <nigelb> arand: It's far far later than normal. :) | |
| [18:56] <nigelb> I wonder if sabdfl is saving it for the UDS opening keynote ;) | |
| [19:01] <micahg> cjwatson: what do you think of removing packages that FTBFS in the rebuild on all archs that have been removed from testing? | |
| [19:01] <micahg> cjwatson: oh and have no rdeps | |
| [19:02] <arand> nigelb: Might just be very hard to find positive adjectives on Q... | |
| [19:03] <nigelb> arand: HA. lol. | |
| [19:12] <penguin42> arand: Quintessential Quetzalcoatlus, obvious really | |
| [19:13] <nigelb> penguin42: haha | |
| [19:15] <penguin42> nigelb: I know Mark always likes things that are easy to spell and type | |
| [19:18] <nigelb> penguin42: yeah. he does care for us developers | |
| [19:18] <nigelb> who have to type it out many times ;-) | |
| [19:19] * penguin42 is still just bitter that PP isn't penguin | |
| [19:20] <penguin42> oh, nested KVM seems to work nicely on PP; I've just booted a OO VM on a PP server running on a PP host | |
| [19:21] <penguin42> and given the number of impossible things I've done this weekend I should give up now :-) | |
| [19:31] <ScottK> oneiric was not easy to type at first. | |
| [19:32] * tumbleweed is hoping for a quirky quagga - quirky is a great name for a post-LTS release :) | |
| [19:40] <jtaylor> well it falls into debian freeze | |
| [19:40] <jtaylor> so it won't be so bad | |
| [19:41] <ScottK> I'm sure we'll invent plenty of crack on our own. | |
| [19:42] <ScottK> Qwality Quail | |
| [19:43] <ScottK> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1996-06-11/ comes to mind. | |
| [19:44] <jtaylor> ^^ | |
| [19:44] <tumbleweed> :) | |
| [19:53] <cjwatson> micahg: I'm gradually fixing or removing anything that has out-of-date binaries as a result of build failures. I expect most of the packages in your category would be sane to remove, but I'd like to apply some case-by-case judgement all the same | |
| [19:55] <cjwatson> out-of-date binaries are more urgent IMO | |
| [20:00] * ScottK doesn't understand why all the axiom binaries on the the outofdate list. | |
| [20:00] <cjwatson> YM from architectures that built? | |
| [20:01] <micahg> powerpc is behind | |
| [20:01] <cjwatson> They're probably arch all. LP nowadays keeps arch all around until there are no arch-specific binaries from the same version, to try to reduce skew-induced damage. | |
| [20:01] <Laney> it's the arch:all binaries being held because of the FTBFS | |
| [20:01] <cjwatson> Fix or remove the arch-specific ones, and the arch all binaries will be dominated away on the next publisher run. | |
| [20:02] <micahg> where's this out of date list? | |
| [20:03] <Laney> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_outdate_all.txt | |
| [20:03] <Laney> and s/testing/testing-ports/ | |
| [20:03] <micahg> meh, I've added 2 to the list apparently | |
| [20:03] <cjwatson> it's about half the length it was on Friday :) | |
| [20:03] <cjwatson> it does fluctuate a bit | |
| [20:04] <cjwatson> one of these days I must add a currently-building indication to it | |
| [20:17] <ScottK> It definitely looks much better than the last time I looked at it. | |
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