| [00:00] <imbrandon> cool, ty | |
| [00:17] <imbrandon> SpamapS: oh and about the mouse thing, i use photoshop and other mouse tools WAY too much not to be a mouse guy | |
| [00:19] <imbrandon> actually on my desk i have a mouse, a blootooth multitouch track pad, ( for my left hand while mouse in the right in photoshop ) and i use my ipad off to the side connected with wifi to change brushes etc with adobe connect and then a bamboo pen tablet wireless i place infront of my keyboard when i use it , so many more "hand movement" tools i use too much but ive got my own kinda gestures and shortkuts i do with them | |
| [00:21] <imbrandon> oh and my guitar hero usb controller at the side of my chair for when i cant rock out on the telecaster ( /me wants a new les paul :( ) | |
| [00:21] <imbrandon> heh | |
| [00:22] <SpamapS> imbrandon: perhaps consider Mavis Beacon? | |
| [00:22] <SpamapS> ok, time to go do real world stuff | |
| [00:22] <imbrandon> :) | |
| [00:24] <imbrandon> i land one of those two i was telling ya about and i'll take a full real class and mavis :) just for you | |
| [00:32] <hasp> hazmat, wasn't sure if you saw but Euca provided a possible patch for bug 907450 | |
| [00:32] <_mup_> Bug #907450: juju does not work with Walrus when s3-uri has a suffix <Eucalyptus:New> <juju:New> <txAWS:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/907450 > | |
| [01:16] <hazmat> hasp, yeah.. i've been talking to brian | |
| [01:16] <hazmat> hasp, i'm at a conf at the moment, what we can do about the archives first thing next week | |
| [01:16] <hazmat> er. but i'll see ^ | |
| [01:45] <hasp> cool | |
| [01:45] <hasp> thanks man | |
| [01:45] <hasp> hows the conference btw | |
| [02:56] <lazyPower> I'm having some trouble trying to deploy-test my first charm and every piece of literature i find tells me the same command set that i'm using - however its not finding my in-dev charm. | |
| [02:57] <marcoceppi> lazyPower: what's your command? | |
| [02:57] <lazyPower> http://paste.ubuntu.com/936340/ | |
| [02:58] <lazyPower> i suspect i haven't got something setup correctly | |
| [02:58] <marcoceppi> lazyPower: quick fix, inside your repo folder, create an oneiric folder and put your charms in their | |
| [02:58] <marcoceppi> there* | |
| [02:59] <lazyPower> well that caused it to barf with a different message, \o/ thanks marco | |
| [03:00] <marcoceppi> np, what's the new message? | |
| [03:01] <lazyPower> http://paste.ubuntu.com/936345/ | |
| [03:02] <marcoceppi> well, that's interesting, pastebin your metadata.yaml | |
| [03:02] <marcoceppi> You can also install charm-tools, then in the terria folder run charm proof . | |
| [03:02] <lazyPower> I did that but didnt understand the output | |
| [03:03] <lazyPower> let me man it | |
| [03:04] <lazyPower> i dont have a provides: statement | |
| [03:04] <lazyPower> that'll do it | |
| [03:05] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: oneiric? You mean precise!! | |
| [03:05] <SpamapS> be bold, taste the beta | |
| [03:05] <lazyPower> SpamapS: Just trying to get it working at this point - i'll worry about targeting control in the next iteration. | |
| [03:05] <lazyPower> if i cant even deploy the service thats cart before the horse isnt it? :) | |
| [03:06] <SpamapS> lazyPower: newer versions of juju will default to precise anyway | |
| [03:06] <lazyPower> its specified in my environment.yaml | |
| [03:06] <lazyPower> so it'll be looking for oneiric | |
| [03:06] <SpamapS> lazyPower: if you're using the latest from the PPA, and you don't have 'default-series: oneiric' , then you will be spawning precise anyway | |
| [03:06] <SpamapS> ahh ok | |
| [03:06] <SpamapS> lazyPower: btw, the provides is just a suggestion. Anything W: or I: is not going to break your charm. | |
| [03:06] <lazyPower> in the provides: statement can i be arbitrary with my definition or are there guidelines for it that i'm missing? | |
| [03:07] <SpamapS> lazyPower: provides is a structured dictionary. It needs two levels deep under it. the first level is the name of the relation, the second is the interface | |
| [03:07] <SpamapS> provides: | |
| [03:07] <SpamapS> foo: | |
| [03:07] <SpamapS> interface: bar | |
| [03:08] <lazyPower> Ok i see, nice. | |
| [03:08] <SpamapS> meaning "I provide something I call foo, and it can talk to things that require an interface: bar | |
| [03:09] <lazyPower> Theres something wrong here - let me push this upstream to my github repo and maybe you can tell me why juju is barfing on the deploy statement. | |
| [03:09] <SpamapS> lazyPower: but you should be able to deploy without a provides | |
| [03:09] <lazyPower> proofing is coming back with only a w | |
| [03:09] <SpamapS> can you pastebin the barf too? | |
| [03:09] <lazyPower> certainly | |
| [03:09] <SpamapS> ahh | |
| [03:10] <bkerensa> marcoceppi: I noticed the gravatars are broken on omg | |
| [03:10] <SpamapS> lazyPower: your structure should be /home/ubuntu/repo/oneiric/terraria/metadata.yaml | |
| [03:11] <lazyPower> is there a charm command i need to run on ~/repo to make it charm friendly that I may have missed? | |
| [03:11] <SpamapS> lazyPower: no | |
| [03:11] <SpamapS> its just a dir | |
| [03:11] <SpamapS> with the releases of ubuntu under it as dirs | |
| [03:11] <SpamapS> then each charm gets a dir | |
| [03:11] <SpamapS> with metadata.yaml, revision, and the hooks dir | |
| [03:11] <lazyPower> i thought that - just analyzing the situation | |
| [03:12] <marcoceppi> what's your metadata.yaml look like? | |
| [03:12] <SpamapS> lazyPower: the 'charm create' tool in charm-tools definitely creates a nice skeleton charm, but it doesn't manage the repo for you | |
| [03:12] <marcoceppi> err, if you're going to push the whole charm to github, that works too | |
| [03:12] <lazyPower> incoming | |
| [03:12] <lazyPower> http://paste.ubuntu.com/936352/ | |
| [03:12] <SpamapS> oh that reminds me... | |
| [03:12] <SpamapS> I should push the latest charm-tools into precise before the release | |
| [03:14] <lazyPower> i used the bitlbee charm as a guideline, and the documentation to write it - it all appears valid to me. | |
| [03:15] <marcoceppi> It appears fine | |
| [03:18] <lazyPower> ok the latest charm revisions are up on github as well. | |
| [03:18] <lazyPower> i suspect this is something funky going on with my setup not so much the charm itself unless i'm just horribly daft. | |
| [03:18] <marcoceppi> cool, I'll try a quick deploy | |
| [03:21] <marcoceppi> lazyPower: easy fix, metadata.yaml "name" needs to be lowercase | |
| [03:22] <marcoceppi> the name needs to match the directory name of the charm | |
| [03:22] <lazyPower> oh... | |
| [03:22] <lazyPower> derp! | |
| [03:22] <marcoceppi> <3 | |
| [03:23] <lazyPower> well on the bright side i'm finally getting around to pulling the latest precise updates on this server | |
| [03:23] <marcoceppi> heh | |
| [03:23] <lazyPower> so the charm trouble had purpse then | |
| [03:25] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: lets put that in charm proof! | |
| [03:25] <SpamapS> thats an E: for sure | |
| [03:25] <lazyPower> nice | |
| [03:26] <lazyPower> just deployed successfully | |
| [03:26] <SpamapS> lazyPower: ^5 | |
| [03:26] <lazyPower> that is hot sauce, gentlemen, hi5 indeed. | |
| [03:28] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: about done w/ a patch | |
| [03:30] <lazyPower> interesting, is it common to see nothing in the deub log when you have juju-log commands in the install hook? | |
| [03:30] <lazyPower> *debug | |
| [03:34] <SpamapS> lazyPower: you should see stuff in the debug-log as soon as the unit starts its agent | |
| [03:35] <SpamapS> lazyPower: IIRC, there is a bug where debug logging isn't turned on until after the install hook runs.. but I thought that was fixed | |
| [03:35] <lazyPower> ooohhh - so i think what i'm experiencing is the nice lag in AWS on spinning up a new instance from the controller then | |
| [03:35] <lazyPower> makes sense. | |
| [03:35] <lazyPower> i had a machine that was pending - so it just assumed things were deployed. | |
| [03:36] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: https://code.launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/charm-tools/name-must-match-dir/+merge/102617 | |
| [03:36] <SpamapS> lazyPower: you also have to wait for juju to install itself.. :) | |
| [03:36] <SpamapS> lazyPower: in my experience, on m1.small's, it takes about 2 minutes | |
| [03:36] <lazyPower> well i'm refreshing on my AWS panel - and no new instance spun up | |
| [03:36] <SpamapS> lazyPower: still "pending" ? | |
| [03:37] <SpamapS> lazyPower: you should also see any logs from the provisioning agent | |
| [03:37] <SpamapS> lazyPower: I have to go afk for a bit.. but I'll be back to check on you soon. :) | |
| [03:37] <lazyPower> Thanks :) | |
| [03:55] * marcoceppi reviews | |
| [03:58] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: The only thing I would say, shouldn't it be higher than a warn? as it's a blocker by Juju standards | |
| [04:22] <lazyPower> awesome. I think i was a victim of AWS Roulette on my last controller. Just deployed a brand new controller and issued a deploy for my charm and the debug log is logging up a storm. | |
| [04:23] <lazyPower> This is exactly what i needed guys, thanks for the patience. | |
| [04:54] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: its not though, you can be submitting it to lp:..... and have it in "foo-bar-baz-bang" | |
| [04:54] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: its just a helpful warning | |
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| [12:08] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: cool | |
| [12:09] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: approved | |
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| [14:37] <bac> Hi, we've got some scripts that wait for our charm to be deployed before proceeding. It involves polling 'juju status' waiting for the agent-state to transition to 'started'. When deploying to ec2 we see occassional error such as: "ERROR Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost.". Is this just a problem with the ssh layer that we should live with or problem juju should solve? | |
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| [16:30] <matsubara> hello! We have a community contributor testing out the MAAS installation and juju deployment but he's running into a timeout error bootstrapping the environment. The error he gets is: Failure: juju.errors.ProviderInteractionError: Unexpected TimeoutError | |
| [16:30] <matsubara> interacting with provider: User timeout caused connection failure. | |
| [16:30] <matsubara> 2012-04-19 10:43:45,297 ERROR Traceback (most recent call last): | |
| [16:30] <matsubara> Failure: juju.errors.ProviderInteractionError: Unexpected TimeoutError | |
| [16:30] <matsubara> interacting with provider: User timeout caused connection failure. Is there a place to see more details about this error? | |
| [16:35] <m_3> matsubara: not that I've heard of... most of the hw crew are at the openstack summit atm (talking about maas) | |
| [16:37] <SpamapS> matsubara: juju -v bootstrap might help a bit | |
| [16:38] <SpamapS> and yes, we're all at openstack | |
| [16:38] <SpamapS> keynotes going now | |
| [16:38] <matsubara> SpamapS, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/937068/ | |
| [16:42] <SpamapS> matsubara: seems rather clear, timed out trying to connect to ... something ;) | |
| [16:43] <matsubara> SpamapS, is there any other juj log or more verbose option I could look at to see what that something is? | |
| [16:46] <SpamapS> matsubara: not really in this case no. | |
| [16:46] <SpamapS> matsubara: whatever is raising that ProviderError is being very terse, and should have included a message | |
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| [17:16] <SpamapS> sabdfl about to take stage at openstack conference :) | |
| [17:17] <jcastro> \o/ | |
| [17:17] <jcastro> current .... keynote .... boring. | |
| [17:17] <jcastro> losing .... conciousness ... | |
| [17:31] <marcoceppi> hah | |
| [17:41] <AlanBell> http://openstack.org/conference/san-francisco-2012/ like the new wheels jcastro | |
| [17:41] <jcastro> thanks! | |
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| [18:00] <bkerensa> AlanBell: I wanted to go to that event so bad | |
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| [18:38] <oarcher> hi, i'm deploying openstack with juju, on ubuntu precise. 'juju deplay mysql' is ok, but 'juju deploy rabbitmq' give Error processing 'cs:precise/rabbitmq': entry not found | |
| [18:39] <oarcher> i'm using doc from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure | |
| [18:45] <_mup_> Bug #985812 was filed: Juju commands return SSL errors <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/985812 > | |
| [18:52] <oarcher> and bzr branch lp:charms/rabbitmq give "bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~charmers/charms/precise/rabbitmq-server/precise/"." Strange, because it's a copy/paste from https://code.launchpad.net/~charmers/charms/precise/rabbitmq-server/trunk (Get this branch) | |
| [18:59] <flepied> I have rebooted my laptop after an lxc juju setup. how do I restart it ? | |
| [19:20] <oarcher> and "Browse the code" (https://code.launchpad.net/~charmers/charms/precise/rabbitmq-server/trunk) on lp give 404 ! Is launchpad charms broken ? | |
| [20:28] <imbrandon> flepied: juju destroy the env and re bootstrap it' | |
| [20:48] <flepied> imbrandon, I don't want to loose what I have done. there is no other way ? | |
| [20:49] <flepied> I manage to modify bootstrap to not stop and restart at least zookeeper. now I need to start the containers... | |
| [20:49] <imbrandon> not with lxc no | |
| [20:50] <SpamapS> flepied: its an open bug | |
| [20:50] <flepied> whith ec2 how would it work ? | |
| [20:50] <SpamapS> flepied: with EC2 you can reboot the nodes, though if the zookeeper node changes IP, things stop working. | |
| [20:51] <flepied> SpamapS: ok | |
| [20:52] <flepied> SpamapS, what is the bug number ? | |
| [20:54] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: you can change the EIP and things still work | |
| [20:54] <marcoceppi> juju ssh unit/# stops working, but juju ssh machine# still works. The data for serviecs falls out of sync, but machine data stays up to date | |
| [21:01] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: you can't change the internal IP of the zookeeper node. Bad things happen. | |
| [21:01] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: Oh, for the zk node | |
| [21:01] <marcoceppi> I thought it was any instance | |
| [21:01] <SpamapS> flepied: bug #955576 | |
| [21:01] <_mup_> Bug #955576: 'local:' services not started on reboot <juju:New> <juju (Ubuntu):Confirmed> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/955576 > | |
| [21:02] <marcoceppi> I guess I need to test my newest charm against precise now | |
| [21:08] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: did you see sabdfl's keynote? | |
| [21:18] <imbrandon> is there video > | |
| [21:18] <imbrandon> ? | |
| [21:24] <SpamapS> imbrandon: eventually | |
| [21:24] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: yes, it was awesome | |
| [21:24] <SpamapS> not AWSome.. but Awesome :) | |
| [21:24] <imbrandon> lol | |
| [21:25] <SpamapS> m_3: http://charmtests.markmims.com/ ... can I get some precise up in here? | |
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| [21:51] <marcoceppi> Is it just me, or should make be a part of build-essential? | |
| [21:51] <marcoceppi> grr | |
| [21:53] <marcoceppi> charm-upgrade didn't quite do what I expected, nvm | |
| [21:53] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: agreed, I'm shocked that make isn't part of build-essential | |
| [21:54] * SpamapS tried to write a charm using make the other day. If there had been a puppy around I'd have kicked it | |
| [21:54] <marcoceppi> haha | |
| [21:54] <marcoceppi> I just kicked the jr. dev over here instead, and by kicked I mean shot with nerf guns | |
| [21:55] <marcoceppi> In other news, I think the shelr.tv charm is ready to be reviewed, and it uses mongodb! | |
| [21:55] <marcoceppi> just waiting for this last test to finish | |
| [21:56] <imbrandon> nice | |
| [21:56] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: should I make a bug for these: 2012-04-19 21:55:11,412:14468(0x7f66884a5700):ZOO_WARN@zookeeper_interest@1461: Exceeded deadline by 86ms they seem exceisve | |
| [21:57] <imbrandon> why can no one build a fskin sane php ppa ? fskin grumbles and goes off to do it himself possibly | |
| [21:57] <hazmat> marcoceppi, there is one extant | |
| [21:57] <marcoceppi> hazmat: cool, thanks | |
| [21:57] <hazmat> marcoceppi, its unfortunate they chose to do log that as a warning, cause its really not meaningful | |
| [22:01] <marcoceppi> yeah, I always scratch my head at it like "oh, okay?" | |
| [22:02] <imbrandon> SpamapS: you know after a couple of days of looking re: ssh key server, their really isnt a universal one, or one peroid etc except LP, and me being the way I am I think I'm just gonna write one ... in Go ... public , secure , and indep not tied to github sf.net lp etc ( but will likely make use of them for imports or syncing ) | |
| [22:03] <imbrandon> kinda like a gpg keyserv | |
| [22:04] <imbrandon> bad idea ? i'm kinda on the fence about it | |
| [22:06] <SpamapS> imbrandon: lol | |
| [22:06] <SpamapS> imbrandon: glad you did the due dilligence | |
| [22:10] <imbrandon> i figured if nothing else it will give me a "project" to learn Go with | |
| [22:10] <imbrandon> SpamapS: i tend to retain more that way , and maybe later i can get my hands dirty with juju go easier | |
| [22:11] <m_3> SpamapS: yup... working on getting charmtests up to precise... charmrunner's gotta take environment params first | |
| [22:11] <m_3> SpamapS: congrats... I hear the talk went well today! | |
| [22:18] <marcoceppi> Does juju run with the locale env? | |
| [22:19] <hazmat> marcoceppi, i think not in the local provider | |
| [22:20] <marcoceppi> I'm wondering if that's why I'm getting this error, the command fails from the install hook, but not from the terminal | |
| [22:20] <hazmat> the fix | |
| [22:22] <marcoceppi> hum, doesn't appear to have LANG set, I just tried to echo it from the install hook | |
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| [22:22] <marcoceppi> I guess the easy way would be to just set it? | |
| [22:27] <marcoceppi> So two things, A) That fixed it B) what, if any ENV variables are included during execution? | |
| [22:28] <imbrandon> marcoceppi: jsut evho env | |
| [22:28] <imbrandon> echo | |
| [22:28] <imbrandon> from the install hook and and it should show | |
| [22:28] <imbrandon> err run env | |
| [22:28] <imbrandon> not echo | |
| [22:28] <imbrandon> /usr/bin/env | |
| [22:28] <marcoceppi> eh, I will if I have to push an update | |
| [22:48] <marcoceppi> before I submit a patch for this, can someone confirm that this is a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/mongodb/+bug/985939 | |
| [22:48] <_mup_> Bug #985939: Mongodb charm does not expose the port on relation-joined <mongodb (Juju Charms Collection):New> <mongodb (Charms Oneiric):New> <mongodb (Charms Precise):New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/985939 > | |
| [23:05] <imbrandon> jcastro / m_3 : Juju on OSX updated , run "brew update && brew upgrade juju" if you have it installed to get juju-0.5+bzr531 :) | |
| [23:06] <m_3> imbrandon: cool | |
| [23:13] <imbrandon> marcoceppi: when you get a moment can you pass me the two curent stanza's we're using ? | |
| [23:19] <marcoceppi> shelr.tv charm \o/ http://ec2-50-19-40-77.compute-1.amazonaws.com/records/4f909d76c2183956b1000002 | |
| [23:19] <marcoceppi> imbrandon: there's nothing in the new stanzas | |
| [23:19] <marcoceppi> everyting's back on the old setup | |
| [23:20] <imbrandon> ahh ok, is thre a current staging ? or not right now ? | |
| [23:20] <marcoceppi> there's no staging | |
| [23:20] <marcoceppi> atm | |
| [23:20] <imbrandon> kk | |
| [23:22] <m_3> marcoceppi: shelr's cool | |
| [23:22] <marcoceppi> yeah, I love the work they've been doing | |
| [23:23] <marcoceppi> and it's another charm we can add to the list that uses mongo | |
| [23:24] <marcoceppi> need to clean up a few things and add a copyright, then it'll be up for review | |
| [23:24] <m_3> yup | |
| [23:29] <imbrandon> yea i did your charm juju install of omg playback via the shell on osx | |
| [23:29] <imbrandon> that is soooooooo cool | |
| [23:29] <imbrandon> marcoceppi: ^^ | |
| [23:29] <imbrandon> alot smoother that way too | |