| [00:00] <SpamapS> cowmix: hm | |
| [00:00] <SpamapS> cowmix: its definitely *far* better than when that statement was written | |
| [00:00] <SpamapS> cowmix: I think for certain use cases, its a good choice in production | |
| [00:00] <SpamapS> cowmix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bugs?field.tag=production | |
| [00:01] <SpamapS> cowmix: those are known issues that should be considered before putting it there. Perhaps we should update the docs to point at that list. | |
| [00:11] <imbrandon> .win 15 | |
| [00:40] <cowmix> SpamapS: thanks... I'm *very* excited about juju.. I'm trying out the 12.04 beta as soon as its out | |
| [00:47] <SpamapS> cowmix: beta1 is out. :) | |
| [00:47] <SpamapS> cowmix: I'd recommend using juju from the ppa though.. we should land a new version in beta2, and the PPA is much closer to that. | |
| [00:50] <cowmix> Awesome.. when 12.04 is fully baked.. use the release version then? | |
| [00:51] <cowmix> It's interesting because I have some friends that do HUGE EC2 deployments on Ubuntu and they didn't know about juju.. I turned them on to it and they seemed jazzed. | |
| [00:52] <cowmix> Canonical really needs to pump this up harder.. it solves an issue everyone is trying to solve on their own. | |
| [00:55] <SpamapS> cowmix: a little over a year ago, juju didn't exist.. so.. give us some time. :) | |
| [00:56] <SpamapS> cowmix: there's a charm contest going on right now.. you should get some of them to enter it. :) | |
| [01:10] <cowmix> SpamapS: is Canonical dog-fooding it now in their own infrastructure? | |
| [01:39] <sloth_> anyone got time for a really basic question | |
| [01:46] <SpamapS> cowmix: here and there, yes.. nothing important, as we only run that on released LTS's, and lucid can't run juju | |
| [01:47] <SpamapS> sloth_: just ask, and hang out for an answer, somebody will get back to you. Also we watch the juju tag on askubuntu.com a lot, so asking there might be a good idea | |
| [01:49] <sloth_> cool. so I'm totally new to juju (and not a Ubuntu guy normally). I'd like to use it provision a mongo cluster on amazon. I'm not sure if I have to create a ubuntu EC2 instance to use as the provisioning host (that wouldn't be part of the 3 machine replication set) or if I can do it from my mac or where to start | |
| [01:49] <sloth_> I looked at the introduction to juju but I suspect I'm missing a few pieces of knowledge on how to get to where it starts | |
| [02:02] <_mup_> juju/status-changes r484 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | |
| [02:02] <_mup_> collapse relation display in units unless error, all relation names are multi-valued | |
| [02:04] <hazmat> i'm going to hit a devops meetup tomorrow, we're hitting a few conferences this year | |
| [02:21] <_mup_> juju/status-changes r485 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | |
| [02:21] <_mup_> status uniques when the same service has multiple relations to the same endpoint | |
| [02:42] <_mup_> Bug #959884 was filed: Improved status output <juju:In Progress by hazmat> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/959884 > | |
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| [03:03] <_mup_> juju/force-upgrade r465 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | |
| [03:03] <_mup_> finish upgrade-charm --force cli tests | |
| [03:04] <_mup_> juju/force-upgrade r466 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | |
| [03:04] <_mup_> add to ignores | |
| [03:07] <hazmat> are pkg task sets addressable, ie. can i install the cloud/server task set into a container, or is it more of a preseed thing | |
| [03:08] <hazmat> ah.. tasksel | |
| [03:11] <hazmat> hmm.. doesn't want to work without a ttyl | |
| [03:59] <_mup_> juju/series-from-charm r464 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | |
| [03:59] <_mup_> charm series is used as service system constraint | |
| [04:19] <_mup_> Bug #959914 was filed: Charm series is used for service series constraint. <juju:In Progress by hazmat> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/959914 > | |
| [06:35] <bkerensa> SpamapS: Uhh lots of suggestions and I dont know where to begin :) I guess I will bug jcastro for guidance tomorrow :P I must be off to bed now | |
| [06:39] <SpamapS> bkerensa: Sorry.. I am really excited about your charm which is why I'm being so picky about it. I will likely be a user. :) | |
| [06:40] <SpamapS> bkerensa: bug me for help too, I'm happy to assist. :) | |
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| [11:29] <jamespage> whats the state of juju on lucid? | |
| [11:30] <jamespage> might be a funny question but I'd like to see whether I can get apache bigtop running with the hadoop charm | |
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| [13:07] <hazmat> jamespage, it hasn't been tried in some time, the libzk libs need a more recent version to avoid some bugs there afaicr. we may have picked up some py 2.7isms | |
| [13:08] <jamespage> hazmat, ack | |
| [13:08] <jamespage> it was a 'if i get time' type activity TBH | |
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| [13:53] <yolanda> hi all, i'm trying to use juju in openstack, but i receive an error in the machine every time i try to create one, any one knows about this problem? | |
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| [14:07] <yolanda> hi, anyone can help with juju and openstack? | |
| [14:18] <james_w> yolanda, hi, what's the error? | |
| [14:18] <yolanda> hi, james_w, just my openstack instance is created, but the status is "error" | |
| [14:20] <james_w> yolanda, hmm, I'm not sure how to find out what caused the error | |
| [14:21] <jamespage> yolanda, could be a number of things | |
| [14:21] <yolanda> james_w, i see that the image used is ami-00000049, is that ok? | |
| [14:21] <jamespage> it might be best to take a look at the instance directly in openstack to see if you can get more info | |
| [14:22] <yolanda> jamespage, how can it be done? i only can see the instance when i do an euca-describe-instances, and see that status | |
| [14:22] <jamespage> yolanda, does it show error there as well? | |
| [14:22] <yolanda> no | |
| [14:22] <jamespage> yolanda, hmm | |
| [14:23] <jamespage> euca-get-console-output <instanceid> might show you a bit more | |
| [14:23] <yolanda> mm, let me see | |
| [14:23] <yolanda> euca-get-console-output i-00001b40 | |
| [14:23] <yolanda> UnknownError: An unknown error has occurred. Please try your request again. | |
| [14:24] <jamespage> yolanda, oops | |
| [14:24] <yolanda> not a very clear error :) | |
| [14:24] <jamespage> yolanda, thats a openstack is broken error | |
| [14:25] <yolanda> jamespage, but i'm running some other instances in openstack right now | |
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| [14:25] <yolanda> i'll try to create that one manually | |
| [14:26] <jamespage> yolanda, you might be able to ssh to it - please try that | |
| [14:26] <jamespage> might be able to get some good debug out of it yet... | |
| [14:26] <yolanda> jamespage, cannot ssh, i can't see any internal ip | |
| [14:26] <jamespage> yolanda, what is its status? running? | |
| [14:26] <yolanda> i have 3 instances, i can see the internal ip for the previous two, but this doesn't show any ip | |
| [14:26] <yolanda> status is error | |
| [14:27] <yolanda> the privateIpAddress field is empty | |
| [14:27] <jamespage> yolanda, so basically it compelelty failed to start | |
| [14:28] <yolanda> yes, it seems | |
| [14:28] <yolanda> will try to create same image manually | |
| [14:30] <yolanda> ok, same image created with euca-run-instances work | |
| [14:30] <yolanda> so it's something with juju process | |
| [14:32] <yolanda> btw, what i want is to test some juju charm, if i cannot do it with openstack, what can i use? i did some tests with a personal EC2 account, but i need a large machine, and they started charging me an important bill, so i stopped it | |
| [14:33] <jamespage> yolanda, I think I know what it might be - lemme just check | |
| [14:33] <yolanda> ok, jamespage, thanks | |
| [14:36] <jamespage> yolanda, can you try with ami-00000048 please | |
| [14:36] <yolanda> jamespage, that can be specified with the default-image-id param, right? | |
| [14:37] <jamespage> yolanda, it can | |
| [14:37] <jamespage> yolanda, have you tried using the local provider for juju? | |
| [14:38] <yolanda> jamespage, yes, but gives another error: error: Falló al iniciar la red default | |
| [14:38] <yolanda> error: Requested operation is not valid: network is already active | |
| [14:38] <yolanda> Command '['virsh', 'net-start', 'default']' returned non-zero exit status 1 | |
| [14:38] <yolanda> 2012-03-20 15:38:29,472 ERROR Command '['virsh', 'net-start', 'default']' returned non-zero exit status 1 | |
| [14:39] <jamespage> yolanda, ah - I know what this is | |
| [14:39] <yolanda> i saw that i had to logout/login, but i already did it | |
| [14:39] <jamespage> yolanda: what does virsh list-network give you | |
| [14:40] <yolanda> unknown command "list-network" | |
| [14:40] <jamespage> sorry net-list | |
| [14:40] <jamespage> not list-network | |
| [14:41] <SpamapS> yolanda: did you logout/back in after installing juju and especially libvirt-bin? | |
| [14:41] <jamespage> yolanda, can you check that the account you are using is in the libvirtd groups as well please | |
| [14:41] <yolanda> SpamapS, yes | |
| [14:42] <yolanda> Nombre Estado Inicio automático | |
| [14:42] <yolanda> ----------------------------------------- | |
| [14:42] <yolanda> default activo si | |
| [14:42] <yolanda> sorry but it's spanish output | |
| [14:42] <SpamapS> no problemo, yo hablo un poquito ;) | |
| [14:42] <yolanda> genial :) | |
| [14:44] <yolanda> jamespage, how can i check it? | |
| [14:44] <jamespage> yolanda, type 'groups' | |
| [14:45] <yolanda> groups | |
| [14:45] <yolanda> yolanda adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare libvirtd | |
| [14:45] <yolanda> that? | |
| [14:45] <jamespage> yes - looks OK | |
| [14:45] <jamespage> 'libvirtd' being the critical bit... | |
| [14:45] <jamespage> hmm | |
| [14:46] <jamespage> I wonder | |
| [14:48] <jamespage> yolanda, I think thats a bug - juju parses the output of net-list and looks for 'active' | |
| [14:48] <jamespage> 'active' != 'activo' | |
| [14:48] <yolanda> damn | |
| [14:48] <yolanda> so how can i fix it? is it possible? | |
| [14:49] <SpamapS> wait | |
| [14:49] <yolanda> please don't say: use Ubuntu in english :) | |
| [14:49] <SpamapS> yolanda: dpkg -l juju | |
| [14:49] <SpamapS> That bug was fixed... we set LANG=C before calling net-list | |
| [14:50] <yolanda> Deseado=Desconocido/Instalar/Eliminar/Purgar/Retener | |
| [14:50] <yolanda> | Estado=No/Instalado/Config-files/Desempaquetado/Medio-conf/Medio-inst/espera-disparo/pendiente-disparo | |
| [14:50] <yolanda> |/ Err?=(ninguno)/Requiere-reinst (Estado,Err: mayúsc.=malo) | |
| [14:50] <yolanda> ||/ Nombre Versión Descripción | |
| [14:50] <yolanda> +++-=================================-=================================-================================================================================== | |
| [14:50] <yolanda> ii juju 0.5+bzr398-0ubuntu1 next generation service orchestration system | |
| [14:50] <jamespage> SpamapS, I was just looking at that | |
| [14:51] <jamespage> yolanda, I would recommend using juju from the team PPA - that is a very old version | |
| [14:51] <jamespage> (the one that is in oneiric) | |
| [14:52] <yolanda> jamespage, how can i config it? in which repo is? | |
| [14:52] <jamespage> yolanda, https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/pkgs | |
| [14:52] <yolanda> let me see | |
| [14:52] <yolanda> i wonder if that's the cause of all my problems | |
| [14:53] <jamespage> yolanda, not all of them but this one - probably | |
| [14:53] <jamespage> SpamapS, good catch | |
| [14:54] <jcastro> krondor, how's it coming along? | |
| [14:54] <jcastro> krondor, hey do you guys plan to nginx in the moodle charm? | |
| [14:54] <yolanda> let me test | |
| [14:59] <yolanda> i updated it, now i have this error: | |
| [14:59] <yolanda> Starting storage server... | |
| [14:59] <yolanda> could not connect before timeout | |
| [14:59] <yolanda> 2012-03-20 15:58:41,768 ERROR could not connect before timeout | |
| [15:01] <bac> SpamapS: gmb said he talked to you about packaging for python-shelltoolbox. will your packaging work for a lucid build? | |
| [15:01] <SpamapS> We really should just push a newer juju into 11.10 and fore-go the proposed testing requirements. :-P | |
| [15:02] <SpamapS> bac: it might, but you can't deploy charms on lucid at the moment, so thats sort of moot. ;) | |
| [15:03] <krondor> jcastro: it's going well so far. We're going apache because the thought is most moodle users would need the auth modules. | |
| [15:03] <jamespage> yolanda, please try 'juju --verbose bootstrap' - you might need to juju destroy-environment first | |
| [15:03] <jamespage> SpamapS, +1 its next to useless how it is ATM | |
| [15:03] <bac> SpamapS: our buildbot slaves will be running lucid containers and they need to use the package too, that's why i ask. | |
| [15:04] <jamespage> jcastro, lookings at the jetty/spdy stuff ATM - have a few ideas | |
| [15:04] <SpamapS> bac: I can just use python-support.. that will work back to lucid | |
| [15:04] <yolanda> jamesjpage, no timeout error now, seems i got it! | |
| [15:04] <yolanda> i'll check with status | |
| [15:04] <bac> SpamapS: that would be great | |
| [15:04] * SpamapS goes afk for a bit | |
| [15:06] <hazmat> more recent versions set the locale to C explicitly before calling out to libvirt | |
| [15:06] <hazmat> via env vars | |
| [15:06] <jcastro> jamespage, right so I was thinking, something simple, that would end up being "this is a fast way to mess with SPDY" and then tell people about it. As a technology showcase, nothing like serious or something people would actually use. | |
| [15:07] <jamespage> jcastro, how about jenkins on SPDY? I'm going to give it a whizz | |
| [15:08] <yolanda> jamespage, SpamapS, thanks a lot for the help | |
| [15:08] <jamespage> yolanda, np | |
| [15:08] <marcoceppi> I noticed something with hooks firing. My db-joined hook takes quite a while to execute. But as soon as I add-relation it shows as "state: up", if it eventually fails it shows the failure then. So, I know the relation hook fired but it won't wait for end of execution of the relation hook. Is this a bug or a intended usage? | |
| [15:10] <jcastro> jamespage, ok so that is sexy, yes, absolutely! | |
| [15:15] <m_3> marcoceppi: that's a known issue | |
| [15:16] <marcoceppi> m_3: Cool, I'm fine with just adding relation, exposing, juju status until the port shows as open (thus the end of the script is done) | |
| [15:19] <m_3> marcoceppi: yeah, we've had several discussions of this problem, but no solns afaik | |
| [15:33] <krondor> jcastro: mayber I can let them pick ngninx or apache w/ a config directive. Was thinking the same with postgresql / mysql. | |
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| [15:36] <jcastro> krondor, yep | |
| [15:38] <_mup_> juju/trunk r486 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | |
| [15:38] <_mup_> merge setuppy-fixes from paul [a=][r=hazmat,clint] | |
| [15:46] <marcoceppi> m_3: I wish I knew more about how juju launched hooks :\ one day I'm going to start digging in to the source code | |
| [15:47] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: open-port is actually supposed to be the signal that your service is ready. | |
| [15:48] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: yeah, that's what I've been using, it's just a wee bit confusing to see the relation state as up when the hook is still running, because then it goes from up to error half way though | |
| [15:48] <marcoceppi> Merely commenting on how it'd be nice if it went from state: "adding", to "up" or "error" | |
| [15:53] <ninjix> I am running into ssh host key errors after I destroy my environment and try to bootstrap a new one | |
| [15:53] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: yeah, I think a more appropriate word would be "active" | |
| [15:53] <SpamapS> ninjix: thats common | |
| [15:53] <SpamapS> ninjix: there's an open bug to have juju ssh use a generated known_hosts file to avoid that.. | |
| [15:53] <jcastro> lmorchard, hey I heard you were having some juju problems, anything I can do to help? | |
| [15:53] <ninjix> how do you guys run your ssh_config? | |
| [15:54] <ninjix> did you set StrictHostKeyChecking off? | |
| [15:54] <SpamapS> ninjix: for production, I just deal with the pain. For testing I wildcard the test hosts and do StrictHostKeyChecking no | |
| [15:54] <ninjix> ;) | |
| [15:55] <SpamapS> the way I do that, which might be a bit evil, is by wildcarding by amazon region. All my production instances are in us-west-1 .. I test in us-east-1 | |
| [15:55] <ninjix> ok, cool. just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something basic | |
| [15:56] <ninjix> SpamapS: btw, thanks for your help over the last few days. I've now got juju and cobbler driving our Proxmox cluster | |
| [15:57] <ninjix> dev team is going to very pleased when I unveil this new cloud environment | |
| [15:58] <jcastro> this is quite cool | |
| [15:59] <jcastro> ninjix, when you're not so slammed it'd be nice to send this to the list. | |
| [15:59] <m_3> yeah, I'd love to see a writeup of that | |
| [15:59] <ninjix> sure | |
| [15:59] <SpamapS> ninjix: *NICE* | |
| [16:00] <jcastro> http://charms.kapilt.com/~patrick-hetu/oneiric/openerp-server | |
| [16:00] <jcastro> look at this readme | |
| [16:00] <jcastro> it's already better than all the stuff we wrote in the intial set of charms. :) | |
| [16:00] <jcastro> patrick and jseutter are killing it. :) | |
| [16:01] <SpamapS> jcastro: I'm so ashamed of mediawiki now.. I almost want to just nuke it and re-do the whole thing. ;) | |
| [16:01] <jseutter> huh? | |
| [16:01] <jcastro> jseutter, it's exciting to see you guys submitting these charms | |
| [16:01] <jseutter> jcastro: ah :) | |
| [16:02] <jcastro> shazzner's working on gitolite too | |
| [16:03] <ninjix> my service units keep appearing with <hostname>.localdomain why are they not using the domain delivered by DHCP? | |
| [16:08] * SpamapS digs through the code to see where that value comes from | |
| [16:09] * SpamapS goes a 4th level of indirection deeper and wonders what he has wandered into | |
| [16:12] <SpamapS> UGH | |
| [16:12] <SpamapS> output = subprocess.check_output(["hostname", "-f"]) | |
| [16:12] <SpamapS> ninjix: ^^ | |
| [16:12] <SpamapS> that is just so wrong.. :-P | |
| [16:18] <ninjix> hmm... ok I'll work with the -f arg | |
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| [16:38] <ninjix> just had 99% successful wordpress test run. Only thing that didn't work was that the 000-default site was left enabled | |
| [16:38] <ninjix> is that normal? I'm running today's PPA | |
| [16:39] <SpamapS> ninjix: its more complicated than that | |
| [16:40] <SpamapS> ninjix: basically the wordpress charm expects you to use the 'public-address' to access it.. | |
| [16:40] <SpamapS> ninjix: I believe marcoceppi is working on fixing that | |
| [16:40] <SpamapS> ninjix: glad to hear you got it deploying though! :) | |
| [16:40] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: were you going to try and tackle the Host: header weirdness w/ wordpress? | |
| [16:40] <ninjix> the public address started working once I a2dissite 000-default | |
| [16:41] <SpamapS> ninjix: oh, hm, that sounds different | |
| [16:41] <jamespage> jcastro, that was painful - looks like upstream managed to not release spdy as part of the lastest jetty distro | |
| [16:41] <jamespage> I had to hack it in | |
| [16:42] <jcastro> nice | |
| [16:50] <ninjix> SpamapS: this seems to be Apache2 strangeness. The FQDN site looks properly configured but Apache stops using it as soon as I re-enable the default | |
| [16:51] <ninjix> ahh... this is happening because the 000-default is using the same FQDN as the juju created site | |
| [16:51] <SpamapS> ninjix: sounds like a bug in the charm really.. should just dissite the default | |
| [16:52] <SpamapS> ninjix: https://launchpad.net/charms/+source/wordpress/+filebug | |
| [16:52] <SpamapS> If you wouldn't mind. :) | |
| [16:52] <ninjix> no problem | |
| [17:00] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: That's a different issue with using HAProxy in front of WP | |
| [17:09] <ninjix> marcoceppi: I just appended the a2dissite to my local oneiric/wordpress/hooks/install | |
| [17:09] <ninjix> marcoceppi: will the next juju add-unit wordpress pick up the change? | |
| [17:11] <SpamapS> ninjix: no | |
| [17:12] <SpamapS> ninjix: you have to use upgrade-charm | |
| [17:13] <ninjix> does that imply that the my current env has the wordpress charm cached on the bootstrap instance? | |
| [17:13] <SpamapS> ninjix: yes, there's a webdav server that hosts the charm bundles | |
| [17:13] <ninjix> :) | |
| [17:14] <marcoceppi> actually, SpamapS I had a question about add-unit. When I add-unit it executes the charm without any real idea that it's an additional unit, correct? So it would be just as if I had done a deploy + add-relation + expose + whatever else I did to the previous unit | |
| [17:14] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: right | |
| [17:14] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: to make units aware of one another use peer relations | |
| [17:14] <marcoceppi> figured, follow up question | |
| [17:14] <marcoceppi> and answered. | |
| [17:15] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: though that one will proceed all the way through install -> started before being aware of the peer relationships | |
| [17:16] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: which has been a problem in the past for charms that need to work slightly different between 1 and 1+ nodes ;) | |
| [17:16] <marcoceppi> Lastly, is there a way within a non-peer relation hook to tell if there is another unit? | |
| [17:16] <marcoceppi> I'm trying to avoid having the db-relation-joined hook run a MySQL import when it already exists from the first instance | |
| [17:17] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: I'd use the database itself for that... not rely on juju for it | |
| [17:17] <marcoceppi> I guess just mysqladmin create and capture a non 0 exit or something? | |
| [17:17] <m_3> marcoceppi: there's a few different ways to do that... right... what SpamapS just said... check the db for a schema version or some content | |
| [17:26] <_mup_> juju/subordinate r522 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com | |
| [17:26] <_mup_> update unit deploy signature | |
| [17:31] <ninjix> I am getting an SSH key error when I execute upgrade-charm | |
| [17:32] <ninjix> ssh works manually to the remote_host value | |
| [17:57] <negronjl> jamespage: ping | |
| [17:58] <jamespage> negronjl, pong! | |
| [17:58] <SpamapS> ninjix: all commands have to ssh to machine 0 so they can talk to zookeeper securely.. | |
| [17:58] <negronjl> jamespage: Here is what I have so far for a combined tomcat6 and tomcat7 charm ( lp:~negronjl/+junk/tomcat ) | |
| [17:58] <negronjl> jamespage: if/when you get a chance, I would appreciate some feedback. | |
| [17:59] <SpamapS> negronjl: +junk?! ;) | |
| [17:59] <jamespage> negronjl, yep - I'll take a look tomorrow | |
| [17:59] <negronjl> SpamapS: It's a work in progress and I don't want to confuse anyone that may think that this is an actual usable charm yet. | |
| [17:59] <negronjl> jamespage: thx | |
| [18:00] <negronjl> SpamapS: I'll put it in the proper place and put it through the proper process once I get done with it. | |
| [18:00] <SpamapS> negronjl: roger. :) | |
| [18:25] <_mup_> juju/relation-id r488 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | |
| [18:25] <_mup_> Pass through relation id | |
| [19:12] <ninjix> SpamapS: how does one add a second mysql unit as a slave? | |
| [19:13] <ninjix> I noticed the mediawiki charm utilizes mysql slaves | |
| === hspencer is now known as hspencer[afk] | |
| [19:51] <SpamapS> ninjix: currently the mysql charm only supports one-way replication, so you 'juju deploy mysql slave-service' and then 'juju add-relation master-service slave-service' | |
| [20:17] <ninjix> starting get the hang this. So it is the relation call that determines which hooks fire | |
| [20:17] <SpamapS> ninjix: right | |
| [20:19] <ninjix> so a master-master creating hooks that understand how to handle 'juju add-relation master-1 master-2' and then a 'juju add-relation master-2 master-1' | |
| [20:20] <ninjix> that's going to dial up the complexity of the charm | |
| [20:22] <ninjix> maybe I can add a hook for mysql-mmm pkg | |
| [20:23] <SpamapS> ninjix: you'd only have one 'add-relation' | |
| [20:23] <SpamapS> ninjix: they're bi-directional | |
| [20:23] <SpamapS> ninjix: you might be able to achieve it just by doing that now though.. hmm.. hadn't thought of trying that | |
| [20:24] <ninjix> how would it discriminate between between simple slave and master-master with only one add-relation | |
| === hspencer[afk] is now known as hspencer | |
| [20:31] <ninjix> ahh... answer my own question. Just learned how to use the <service>:<relation> syntax :) | |
| [20:48] <ninjix> very cool. I'm now scaling the database service with total ease. | |
| [20:49] <SpamapS> ninjix: I think thats our next t-shirt ;) | |
| [20:49] <SpamapS> jcastro: ^^ | |
| [20:49] <ninjix> really liking the low barrier learning curve too | |
| [20:49] <jcastro> man nice dude | |
| [20:50] <jcastro> ninjix, send me a mail, we should send you a juju shirt, jorge@ubuntu.com | |
| [20:51] <ninjix> me like schwag | |
| [21:37] <shazzner> hello | |
| [21:38] <shazzner> quick question, what could be up when after deploying a charm the newly created machine still has a 'not-started' state | |
| [21:38] <shazzner> and I can't ssh into it yet | |
| [21:38] <shazzner> just need to be patient? | |
| [21:52] <shazzner> well I destroyed it, then recreated it | |
| [21:52] <shazzner> now it works, weird | |
| [22:09] <bkerensa> jcastro: when does this contest end? I have a busy week and probably cant do work till this weekend on the charm | |
| [22:09] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: the 23rd | |
| [22:10] <jcastro> bkerensa, it's ok we can be flexible | |
| [22:10] <jcastro> the deadline is the 23'rd | |
| [22:10] <jcastro> but then there's a week of reviews, etc. | |
| [22:10] <shazzner> cool | |
| [22:12] <jcastro> this is the first one so it'd be dumb to make it "pencils down everyone!" | |
| [22:30] <_mup_> juju/relation-id r489 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com | |
| [22:30] <_mup_> Completed relation id refactoring | |
| [23:13] <SpamapS> I think if you already submitted the charm.. | |
| [23:13] <SpamapS> and you are just dealing with my nit-picks.. | |
| [23:13] <SpamapS> your entry will be considered positively ;) | |
| [23:13] <SpamapS> bkerensa: ^^ | |
| [23:14] <bkerensa> kk | |