| [13:26] <ashams> thelinuxer, have a sec? | |
| [13:26] <ashams> you'll log out :) | |
| [13:26] <ashams> :P | |
| [13:26] <thelinuxer> ashams: i am thinking about logging out ... | |
| [13:27] <ashams> thelinuxer, hehe | |
| [13:27] <ashams> 2afashtak :P | |
| [13:27] <ashams> bos ba2a, how can council monitor FGs activity? | |
| [13:27] <ashams> it can not subscribe to their MLs | |
| [13:27] <thelinuxer> ashams: ur going to tell me ? wala this is an actual question ? | |
| [13:27] <ashams> right? | |
| [13:28] <ashams> hehe :) | |
| [13:28] <ashams> thelinuxer, take it easy, I won't bite | |
| [13:28] <ashams> council members can not monitor FGs' activity through subscribing to MLs | |
| [13:28] <ashams> ok? | |
| [13:29] <thelinuxer> la2 i am asking begad ... ur building up 3ashan tewsal le argument wala betes2alny .. | |
| [13:29] <ashams> 3ashan awsal le argument tab3an | |
| [13:29] <ashams> but it can be a real question | |
| [13:30] <ashams> thelinuxer, really, do you have anything in mind to solve this? | |
| [13:30] <thelinuxer> well there are multiple answers to ur question | |
| [13:30] <ashams> plz, it's not an ambush :-) | |
| [13:30] <thelinuxer> 1. Join their mailing list | |
| [13:30] <ashams> 2? | |
| [13:30] <thelinuxer> 2. Follow tasks on launchpad (or something like it) | |
| [13:30] <ashams> that's it :) | |
| [13:31] <thelinuxer> 3. Make one council member monitor one FG | |
| [13:31] <ashams> again, won't work | |
| [13:31] <ashams> let me answer ba2a | |
| [13:32] <ashams> 1st and 3rd, why should a council member join an FG if s/he is not interested | |
| [13:32] <ashams> just being there to monitor them | |
| [13:32] <ashams> this would be sucks | |
| [13:32] <ashams> right? | |
| [13:33] <thelinuxer> mesh lazem bas if there is another efficient way lets do it | |
| [13:33] <ashams> yep, regestir a project on lp, and when someone/fg requests a task from another fg, it just opens a task | |
| [13:33] <ashams> this way anyone can follow bugs/questions on that project | |
| [13:34] <ashams> and everything is visible even to aliens :) | |
| [13:34] <ashams> do you object? | |
| [13:34] <thelinuxer> akeed la2 | |
| [13:34] <ashams> cool | |
| [13:34] <ashams> one sec I'll bring you a link | |
| [13:34] <ashams> :-) | |
| [13:34] <ashams> man, I need your name it | |
| [13:35] <ashams> it's you whose name should be recorded on it | |
| [13:35] <ashams> thelinuxer, https://launchpad.net/projects/+new | |
| [13:35] <ashams> are you ok with this? | |
| [13:35] <thelinuxer> i am not sure ok with what ? | |
| [13:36] <thelinuxer> what's with the name thing ? | |
| [13:36] <ashams> with creating it, i mean | |
| [13:36] <ashams> you were objecting before | |
| [13:36] <ashams> but now, thanks god :) | |
| [13:37] <ashams> 2nd point; plz, and for last time, I swear to God, why should we late some FG like Event Organizers? | |
| === Menopia is now known as Wazery | |
| [13:38] <thelinuxer> ashams: i never objected to creating a project! | |
| [13:38] <thelinuxer> i was asking u what do u want me to do | |
| [13:38] <ashams> Oh God, I'm stupid | |
| [13:39] <thelinuxer> no ur not | |
| [13:39] <thelinuxer> el mohem ur 2nd point | |
| [13:39] <ashams> shoot :) | |
| [13:39] <thelinuxer> elaborate more plz | |
| [13:39] <ashams> ok | |
| [13:39] <thelinuxer> brb | |
| [13:41] <ashams> thelinuxer, you said: "That way we will be able more FGs on need basis at least." about postponing creating some FGs, how can't be a need for "Operators" and event "Organizers" ? | |
| [13:41] <ashams> Wazery, Hi buddy | |
| [13:42] <Wazery> hi ashams | |
| [13:42] <ashams> Wazery, how are you doing? | |
| [13:42] <ashams> do you have a sec? | |
| [13:42] <Wazery> fine | |
| [13:42] <Wazery> sure :) | |
| [13:43] <ashams> el7 | |
| [13:43] <Wazery> I will continue editing the approval application now | |
| [13:43] <ashams> do you object to create event "Organizers" and "Operators" ? | |
| [13:43] <ashams> Wazery, Ok, dude, I appreciate what you do :D | |
| [13:45] <Wazery> I cant understand this, please elaborate | |
| [13:45] <ashams> ok | |
| [13:46] <ashams> I mean that there's a need to create 2 FGs, "event Organizers" and "channels moderators" ? | |
| [13:46] <ashams> do you see a need, as I do? | |
| [13:46] <thelinuxer> back | |
| [13:46] <ashams> wb | |
| [13:46] <thelinuxer> ashams: please lets not that this one-on-one conversations .. | |
| [13:46] <Wazery> ashams, maybe | |
| [13:47] <thelinuxer> if we need an FG we will create | |
| [13:47] <thelinuxer> just provide a proposal | |
| [13:47] <ashams> ok i propose to create 2 FGs, Organizers and Operators? | |
| [13:48] <ashams> organizers to help with doing everything with organizing an event | |
| [13:48] <thelinuxer> lol | |
| [13:49] <thelinuxer> this is called lobbying :D | |
| [13:49] <ashams> yeah, I tried and it worked :P | |
| [13:49] <thelinuxer> bos the 5 council members should be present when u discuss ur idea | |
| [13:49] <ashams> ok, I'm not asking you to action it | |
| [13:50] <ashams> just you guys agree? | |
| [13:50] <ashams> thelinuxer, Wazery ^^ | |
| [13:50] <thelinuxer> i am approving of the method itself | |
| [13:50] <ashams> what you mean? | |
| [13:50] <thelinuxer> is this collecting our votes in private ? | |
| [13:51] <thelinuxer> walla estefsar keda law el fekra 7elwa walla la2 ? | |
| [13:51] <ashams> noooooo, I just want to know | |
| [13:51] <ashams> I'm curios ya akhi | |
| [13:51] <thelinuxer> enta 3arefny ba2eet saye2 el neya belnesbalak :D | |
| [13:51] <ashams> thelinuxer, I know, and me too to you, btw | |
| [13:52] <thelinuxer> thelinuxer: u have no reason for that ... | |
| [13:52] <thelinuxer> i have a million | |
| [13:52] <ashams> especially when you started to send msgs outside the council ml, cuz you think ppl have filtered it out and thus not responding | |
| [13:53] <thelinuxer> at least i sent everything to everyone! | |
| [13:53] <ashams> and, I knew from the first second I saw you set council as team admin that you contacted Karim individually :) | |
| [13:53] <thelinuxer> i didn't contact him :) | |
| [13:53] <ashams> dam you said that you contacted him on the meeting | |
| [13:53] <ashams> damn* :P | |
| [13:53] <thelinuxer> nope i didn't | |
| [13:54] <ashams> yes, you did | |
| [13:54] <thelinuxer> i said i can't find a reason to ask him to do anything | |
| [13:54] <thelinuxer> since i have the privilege to make the council admins | |
| [13:54] <ashams> 2a2ta3 dera3i men la3'lo3'o you said you contacted Karim | |
| [13:54] <thelinuxer> and even if i contacted karim fayez individually that's a lot better than making a scene out of it! | |
| [13:55] <thelinuxer> wallahy i never said it! and should trust me when i tell u something! | |
| [13:55] <ashams> Ok, I'll go ask Karim :P | |
| [13:55] <ashams> hehehehe :D | |
| [13:55] <thelinuxer> and the point itself is really irrelevant! | |
| [13:55] <ashams> yep | |
| [13:55] <thelinuxer> karim is outside the council set | |
| [13:55] <thelinuxer> he is not making any decisions currently | |
| [13:55] <ashams> do you agree with creating those 2 FGs? | |
| [13:56] <ashams> by yourself? | |
| [13:56] <ashams> just taking an opinion | |
| [13:56] <ashams> mesh 7aram ya3ni | |
| [13:56] <thelinuxer> no objections what so ever on creating any team that will tasks to do for the community | |
| [13:57] <ashams> ahhhhhhhhhh, finally | |
| [13:57] <ashams> thnx | |
| [13:57] <ashams> one more thing | |
| [13:58] <ashams> thelinuxer, I want to create a team (-devel) to use it for mentorship | |
| [13:58] <thelinuxer> lol | |
| [13:58] <ashams> then I have a project in mind that the whole team can work out :) | |
| [13:58] <ashams> yeah, lol | |
| [13:58] <thelinuxer> didn't u say this is not one of the locos objectives ? | |
| [13:58] <thelinuxer> ;) | |
| [13:58] <ashams> let me mail you about that project and mentorship with more details | |
| [13:59] <ashams> no I didn't say it | |
| [13:59] <ashams> I swear | |
| [13:59] <thelinuxer> when i was talking about the development FG | |
| [13:59] <ashams> I said, let's split FGs from our educational efforts | |
| [13:59] <thelinuxer> and will teach people packaging as an intro to ubuntu development | |
| [13:59] <ashams> may be I misunderstood you dude | |
| [13:59] <thelinuxer> ok np | |
| [13:59] <ashams> but seriously, I love this idea | |
| [13:59] <thelinuxer> just make the proposal | |
| [14:00] <ashams> OK | |
| [14:00] <thelinuxer> if we have only one person working in the team we can create a team | |
| [14:00] <ashams> Im making it and don't dare you to object then | |
| [14:00] <thelinuxer> as long as it has a separate objective from the others | |
| [14:00] <ashams> It would be me :D | |
| [14:00] <ashams> ok, sure | |
| [14:00] <thelinuxer> ya3ny eih would be me ? | |
| [14:01] <ashams> "<thelinuxer> if we have only one person working in the team we can create a team" => That would be me that person | |
| [14:01] <thelinuxer> ok | |
| [14:01] <ashams> :D | |
| [14:01] <thelinuxer> create the team and don't forget to the council as owner | |
| [14:02] <ashams> ok, I'll make a proposal, to describe the whole thing, you guys will like the project idea, I swear | |
| [14:02] <thelinuxer> bos rule of thumb .. | |
| [14:03] <thelinuxer> law it's direct contribution to ubuntu itself .. it's fine | |
| [14:03] <thelinuxer> law for our internal structure then we need to talk | |
| [14:03] <ashams> it is to the whole community | |
| [14:03] <ashams> not even ubuntu only | |
| [14:03] <ashams> linux as a whole | |
| [14:03] <thelinuxer> u didn't understand me .. | |
| [14:03] <ashams> and I think it wasn't created before | |
| [14:03] <thelinuxer> fe 7agat internal structure | |
| [14:03] <thelinuxer> we fe 7agat el donia ely barra | |
| [14:03] <ashams> what you mean? | |
| [14:04] <ashams> ok, I need elaboration | |
| [14:04] <thelinuxer> law el donia ely barra yeb2a akeed we can make whatever contributions u want | |
| [14:04] <thelinuxer> laken law internal structure we need to talk | |
| [14:04] <ashams> how can be a project related to "internal structure" ? | |
| [14:04] <ashams> it's educational | |
| [14:05] <thelinuxer> it can be internal law el website masalan | |
| [14:05] <thelinuxer> soma we were talking about a team not specifically a project | |
| [14:05] <ashams> ok, I got it | |
| [14:06] <thelinuxer> cool | |
| [14:24] <ashams> thelinuxer, Wazery : ok, I sent it | |
| [14:24] <thelinuxer> ashams: reading it | |
| [14:24] <thelinuxer> and will reply isA | |
| [14:25] <ashams> cool, thanks | |
| [14:26] <ashams> ppl not on the council ML, you can reach it here: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg-council/msg00246.html | |
| [14:36] <ashams> thelinuxer, sorry for beibg that very annoying, plz bear with me, have reg'd the ubuntu-eg project to lp? | |
| [14:36] <thelinuxer> ashams: no i haven't | |
| [14:37] <thelinuxer> do u want it now ? | |
| [14:37] <ashams> when you have time of course :D | |
| [14:37] <thelinuxer> tayeb r we sure about everything ? | |
| [14:38] <ashams> I suggest to make -council as maintainer and ubuntu-eg as driver | |
| [14:38] <thelinuxer> ashams: cause deleting a project will require a launchpad admin | |
| [14:38] <ashams> Yes, I hope so, don't worry | |
| [14:38] <ashams> if it failed we'll keep it for history | |
| [14:38] <ashams> plus, I did request many project s to be deleted before | |
| [14:38] <ashams> :) | |
| [14:39] <thelinuxer> lol | |
| [14:39] <thelinuxer> tayeb i will create it | |
| [14:39] <thelinuxer> bas y can't u create it ? | |
| [14:39] <thelinuxer> eih el moshkela ? | |
| [14:39] <thelinuxer> i am creating it right now | |
| [14:39] <thelinuxer> project name "ubuntu-eg" right ? | |
| [14:40] <ashams> sure dude | |
| [14:40] <ashams> yay | |
| [14:40] <thelinuxer> Title "Ubuntu Egypt Development" | |
| [14:40] <ashams> nope, just ubuntu egypt | |
| [14:40] <ashams> it will be used to track FGs work | |
| [14:40] <ashams> do what you see best | |
| [14:41] <thelinuxer> ok | |
| [14:41] <ashams> coooool | |
| [14:41] <ashams> :D | |
| [14:41] <thelinuxer> Summary ? | |
| [14:41] <thelinuxer> give it to me 3ashan mesh 7a3od afakkar ana :D | |
| [14:42] <ashams> heck, you estebzazy ;) | |
| [14:47] <thelinuxer> ashams: ana 3amalt el project https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg | |
| [14:47] <thelinuxer> ana shayef el maintainer yekoon ubuntu-eg-ouncil | |
| [14:47] <ashams> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiih | |
| [14:48] <ashams> yep, I +1 this :D | |
| [14:48] <thelinuxer> bas sa7ee7 is it right to track el 7agat deh 3ala launchpad? | |
| [14:48] <thelinuxer> ya3ny r there any other team doing it ? | |
| [14:48] <ashams> ubuntu-community does it along time ago :D | |
| [14:48] <ashams> and driver ubuntu-eg, I guess, what you think | |
| [14:49] <thelinuxer> hmm .. | |
| [14:49] <thelinuxer> dah eih el permission beta3et el driver? | |
| [14:49] <ashams> I dont' know it exactly, but it's much lesser than el maintainer | |
| [14:49] <ashams> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-community | |
| [14:50] <thelinuxer> tayeb lets leave it like that till we have a need to change it | |
| [14:50] <ashams> dude, you sat -council as driver right? | |
| [14:50] <thelinuxer> yes | |
| [14:51] <thelinuxer> maintainer and driver | |
| [14:51] <ashams> from here, I have no control on anything | |
| [14:51] <thelinuxer> try a gain | |
| [14:51] <thelinuxer> again* | |
| [14:51] <ashams> yep, saw it now | |
| [14:52] <ashams> ok, I'll search for Driver privilages and ping you back :D | |
| [14:52] <ashams> ah, hasally el3asr first | |
| [14:52] <thelinuxer> ok | |
| [14:53] <ashams> thelinuxer, https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering#Roles_within_projects | |
| [14:54] <thelinuxer> hmmm ... | |
| [14:55] <thelinuxer> we will able to assign bugs to a whole team ? | |
| [14:56] <thelinuxer> yes we can | |
| [14:56] <thelinuxer> 7'alas i configured the bugs tracker | |
| [14:56] <thelinuxer> and we cann assign a bug to a whole team | |
| [14:56] <thelinuxer> i think this is exactly what we want ... | |
| [14:59] <thelinuxer> ashams: ping ^ | |
| [15:13] <ashams> thelinuxer, yes, I think | |
| [15:21] <thelinuxer> ashams: tab cool | |
| [15:22] <ashams> :D | |
| [15:25] <thelinuxer> ashams: i will try to make some bugs on bug squad and art | |
| [15:28] <thelinuxer> ashams: sorry i meant support squad | |
| [15:29] <ashams> ok, cool | |
| [15:29] <ashams> test it ya man | |
| [15:30] <ashams> have fun :D | |
| [15:30] <ashams> Y u ask me? :) | |
| [15:32] <thelinuxer> howa 3ashan i will be assigning tasks like creating the banner for 3000 members we keda | |
| [15:33] <ashams> cool ya man, ok, file a bug or question and assign it to -art | |
| [15:33] <ashams> :D | |
| [15:34] <thelinuxer> yes but i am waiting for the mailing list to be created | |
| [15:34] <ashams> ok, lets' create it | |
| [15:34] <ashams> one sec | |
| [15:34] <thelinuxer> i created it | |
| [15:34] <ashams> cool | |
| [15:34] <thelinuxer> just waiting for launchpad to complete the process | |
| [15:34] <ashams> ah, ok :) | |
| [15:36] <ashams> you can get notified by each question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg/+answer-contact | |
| [15:37] <thelinuxer> oh boy! this is gonna cause some headache :) | |
| [15:37] <ashams> hehe, not yet :P | |
| [15:37] <ashams> and subscribe to bug traffic too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-eg/+subscribe | |
| [15:39] <thelinuxer> now i have to ask wazery to join the mailing list! | |
| [15:39] <ashams> hahahaha :D | |
| [15:39] <thelinuxer> ashams: leeh mesh implicit talama managed from launchpad .. | |
| [15:39] <ashams> implicit means what? | |
| [15:40] <thelinuxer> ya3ny talama ur a member yeb2a u subscribe automatically to the team's mailing list | |
| [15:41] <ashams> ah, that's stupid thing, launchpad is bulky | |
| [15:41] <thelinuxer> yes it is! | |
| [15:41] <ashams> I tried the poll thing, It drove me crazy, just to type in the date to start a poll | |
| [15:41] <ashams> there's no pointers on the polls page it | |
| [15:42] <ashams> ambiguous | |
| [15:43] <thelinuxer> ! | |
| [15:43] <ashams> oh, that ambiguous exclamation | |
| [15:43] <thelinuxer> lol | |
| [15:43] <ashams> but it still beautiful :D | |
| [15:44] <thelinuxer> do u know anything about squid ? | |
| [15:44] <ashams> heck, what is squid aslan? :D | |
| [15:44] <ashams> never mind :D | |
| [15:44] <thelinuxer> caching server AFAICR | |
| [15:45] <ashams> man, forget about it, you're keeping spitting weird terms :P | |
| [15:46] <thelinuxer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_%28software%29 | |
| [15:47] <ashams> cool. checking it, thnx | |
| [15:47] <thelinuxer> ashams: AFAICR, As Far As I Can Remember. | |
| [15:47] <thelinuxer> ashams: btw ... | |
| [15:47] <ashams> ya ragel, wana elli eftakrtaha 7aga hi-tech :D | |
| [15:48] <thelinuxer> i tried to make some updates to my package .. | |
| [15:48] <thelinuxer> i found out i totally forget everything about packaging :D | |
| [15:48] <thelinuxer> ashams: looooooool, just google it man! | |
| [15:48] <ashams> LOL | |
| [15:48] <ashams> ok, time to remember, you'll be listed on mentors page for -devel team | |
| [15:49] <ashams> for packaging | |
| [15:49] <ashams> :D | |
| [15:49] <thelinuxer> ha2ow! | |
| [15:49] <ashams> hahahahahaahahahahaha :D | |
| [15:49] <thelinuxer> :D | |
| [15:49] <ashams> seriously, you'll | |
| [15:49] <thelinuxer> ana 3ayez agaza osboo3 men ely ana feeh dah 3ashan azaker all things related to packaging .. | |
| [15:49] <thelinuxer> begad there is too much documentation! | |
| [15:50] <thelinuxer> we 7agat le python we 7agat le Qt | |
| [15:50] <thelinuxer> and different tools that does exactly the same thing | |
| [15:50] <thelinuxer> matahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! | |
| [15:50] <ashams> yeah, you'll be listed for Qt too :P | |
| [15:50] <ashams> yep, I'm lost in it about 2 and half years now :D | |
| [15:52] <thelinuxer> Qt zay el fol we7'demak fe ay wa2t .. | |
| [15:52] <thelinuxer> bas el packaging is a real nightmare | |
| [15:52] <ashams> ok, let's start with Qt | |
| [15:53] <ashams> and somehow we'll replace packaging with UDD | |
| [15:53] <ashams> Ubuntu Distributed Development, using Bazaar | |
| [15:53] <thelinuxer> ashams: check this question | |
| [15:53] <thelinuxer> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/190347 | |
| [15:53] <thelinuxer> UDD isn't different from packaging | |
| [15:53] <thelinuxer> ur pkg just live in bzr | |
| [15:54] <thelinuxer> and is automatically built for your distro every night for continuous integration purposes | |
| [15:54] <ashams> yep, but it;s a bit easier | |
| [15:54] <thelinuxer> still researching it but I don't think it's easier | |
| [15:54] <thelinuxer> the core task is the same | |
| [15:55] <ashams> have you seen dholbach's development guide | |
| [15:55] <ashams> ? | |
| [15:55] <thelinuxer> yes but didn't have the time to read | |
| [15:55] <thelinuxer> he sent to me when i was telling him i will give a packaging session | |
| [15:55] <thelinuxer> but things got crazy at my end | |
| [15:58] <ashams> yeah, it always go crazy | |
| [15:58] <ashams> hope some1 will answer that question, or even fix it :D | |
| [16:00] <thelinuxer> ya raaaaaaaab | |
| [16:01] <ashams> haha ;) | |
| [16:06] <thelinuxer> ashams: i will go now | |
| [16:06] <thelinuxer> catch u later man | |
| [17:38] <seiflotfy> hi ashams | |
| [17:39] <ashams> hey buddy, how r u doing? :-) seiflotfy | |
| [17:55] <MohamedAlaa98> hi all | |
| [17:55] <MohamedAlaa98> :D | |
| [17:56] <ashams> hi ;) | |
| [17:56] <MohamedAlaa98> how are you? | |
| [17:57] <ashams> fine, ya man | |
| [17:57] <ashams> how u? | |
| [17:57] <MohamedAlaa98> fine :D | |
| [17:58] <ashams> el7amdo lellah | |
| [17:59] <MohamedAlaa98> enta feen men zaman ,nezelt tesaly elesha we ekhtafet ba3daha ;) | |
| [18:00] <ashams> haha | |
| [18:00] <ashams> LOL :D | |
| [18:03] * ashams yawns | |
| [18:04] <ashams> I have to sleep, about to reach 36 hrs awake | |
| [18:04] <ashams> ttyl | |
| [18:04] <MohamedAlaa98> Wow | |
| [18:04] <ashams> yeah | |
| [18:04] <ashams> :) | |
| [18:05] <ashams> bye | |
| [18:05] <seiflotfy> im fine | |
| [18:05] <seiflotfy> kinda busy as usual | |
| [18:05] <MohamedAlaa98> Tesba7 3ala 5eer | |
| [18:05] <MohamedAlaa98> bye | |
| [18:05] <seiflotfy> n8 | |
| [18:08] <MohamedAlaa98> you're always busy, what do you do? | |
| [18:10] <MohamedAlaa98> Didn't finish your job yesterday? | |