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[00:11] <desrt> does anyone know how i request a retrace? |
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[00:11] <RAOF> It happens automatically. |
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[00:11] <desrt> hum |
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[00:11] <TheMuso> If the bug is tagged |
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[00:11] <desrt> oh. this bug only came 42 minutes ago |
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[00:11] <desrt> that's probably why |
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[00:11] <TheMuso> need-$arch-retrace |
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[00:11] <RAOF> (Or, strictly speaking, the tags needs-amd64-retrace or needs-i386-retrace) |
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[00:12] <TheMuso> gah needs is correct |
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[00:12] <desrt> ya. it is so tagged |
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[00:12] <desrt> i didn't realise the bug was just filed moments ago |
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[00:14] * desrt curses the french |
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[00:15] <desrt> their damn cheese is so freaking good |
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[00:15] <desrt> brie in canada is twice as expensive and half as good |
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[00:58] <broder> i have a sort of embedded system which i'm trying to upgrade to oneiric, and i'm having problems with lightdm. when it runs as part of the standard boot, lightdm-session returns 1. if i look at .xsession-errors, all of the scripts are complaining that they can't open display :0 |
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[00:58] <broder> anybody have thoughts for where i could look for what i screwed up? |
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[00:59] <broder> i've done plenty of terrible things to the setup on this environment, so whatever it is is probably my fault, but i'm not sure where to look |
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[01:02] <broder> also, it starts fine if i try again once my getty comes up |
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[01:08] <RAOF> That sounds like *so much fun* |
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[01:10] <broder> yeah, and that combined with the fact i'm using casper means i have to do a full rebuild to do any experimentation :-/ |
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[01:11] <broder> hmm, how well tested is lightdm without accountservice? |
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[01:12] <RAOF> No idea, although obviously robert_ancell would be able to tell you that :) |
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[01:12] <RAOF> What environment do the unittests run in? |
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[01:13] <broder> well, there are a bunch of tests that don't have the accountservice |
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[01:14] <broder> (you can tell because they have names like test-language-no-accounts-service :-P) |
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[01:18] <robert_ancell> broder, the oneiric version is probably not as well tested as the precise version, can you pastebin the lightdm.log? |
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[01:21] <broder> robert_ancell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875441/ |
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[01:21] <broder> i don't have a greeter installed, but i'm always expecting autologin to work |
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[01:22] <broder> i set xserver-command=X -logverbose 0 in an attempt to get something out of the X log, which didn't seem to work |
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[01:22] <broder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/875442/ is the lightdm.conf |
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[01:24] <robert_ancell> broder, as a sanity check I take it /usr/bin/lightdm-session and /usr/bin/gnome-session exist and are executable? |
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[01:24] <robert_ancell> (often a cause of returning 1 on exec) |
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[01:25] <robert_ancell> It seems quite happy to work without Accounst Service - [+1.72s] DEBUG: org.freedesktop.Accounts does not exist, falling back to passwd file |
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[01:25] <broder> robert_ancell: yes. lightdm-session is definitely running and leaving this in .xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875444/ |
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[01:25] <robert_ancell> ah, ** (gnome-session:1447): WARNING **: Cannot open display: |
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[01:25] <broder> err, i should probably note that even though it says gnome-session --session=ubuntu, i'm replacing the ubuntu session with my own session spec |
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[01:25] <robert_ancell> looks like a xauthority issue |
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[01:26] <broder> hmm...well, i do have an .Xauthority file, but it's 0-length |
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[01:26] <broder> but i guess that could be the result of lightdm's cleanup |
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[01:26] <robert_ancell> yes, it removes the entry on exit |
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[01:26] <robert_ancell> makes testing a pain :) |
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[01:27] <broder> hmm, let me see if i can add something to /etc/X11/Xsession.d to cat the xauthority file |
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[01:28] <robert_ancell> also check that $XAUTHORITY is set correctly |
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[01:28] <RAOF> Is xauthority owned by root or something? That broke me for a while. |
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[01:28] <broder> no, owned by my user |
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[01:29] <broder> there's stuff in the .Xauthority file, and $XAUTHORITY is set |
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[01:29] <broder> but i think my hostname in this particular case is localhost because it's not set yet - is that a problem? |
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[01:29] <broder> ("localhost" showed up in the .Xauthority file) |
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[01:29] <robert_ancell> broder, btw you can run 'xauth list' which gives a readable form of the file |
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[01:29] <broder> ah, ok. i'll try that |
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[01:31] <broder> huh, xauth list printed nothing |
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[01:32] <robert_ancell> what was $XAUTHORITY set to? |
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[01:32] <broder> /home/mokafive/.Xauthority |
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[01:33] <robert_ancell> very odd. Permissions on that file? |
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[01:34] <broder> 600 |
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[01:34] <broder> oh, uh. huh. i actually don't seem to have xauth installed |
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[01:34] <robert_ancell> broder, can you try [LightDM] user-authority-in-system-dir=true |
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[01:35] <broder> do i need to have a /usr/bin/xauth if i'm not doing debugging stuff? |
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[01:35] <kenvandine> RAOF, i figured out the scrolling problem, which is turning out to be really nasty to work around |
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[01:36] <kenvandine> the gtk changes for GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL_MASK |
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[01:36] <kenvandine> widgets no longer get scroll-event for GDK_SCROLL_MASK by default, so you have to explicitly add them |
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[01:36] <robert_ancell> broder, I don't think so |
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[01:36] <kenvandine> and gwibber uses a Gtk.Box with Gtk.EventBoxes on top |
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[01:37] <kenvandine> i have a patch for gtk to add GDK_SCROLL_MASK for GdkEventBox |
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[01:37] <kenvandine> but that only partly fixes it... in the eventboxes, i add more boxes and labels |
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[01:37] <kenvandine> which don't get the scroll-event either |
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[01:37] <RAOF> Sounds like fun. |
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[01:37] <broder> robert_ancell: no difference |
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[01:38] <kenvandine> so with fixing GtkEventBox, you get really hit or miss scrolling |
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[01:38] <kenvandine> if your cursor is on top of a label, it doesn't scroll |
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[01:39] <kenvandine> i really wonder why it was necessary to remove GDK_SCROLL_MASK by default |
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[01:39] <kenvandine> i suspect this is going to have lots of random side effects all over the place |
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[01:41] <broder> robert_ancell, RAOF: there's also nothing in the Xorg log, which seems suspicious: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875455 |
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[01:41] <RAOF> Yeah, that is suspicious. |
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[01:42] <robert_ancell> broder, interesting though that the daemon was happy with the connection ([+3.02s] DEBUG: Connecting to XServer :0) using xcb |
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[01:42] <robert_ancell> broder, is $DISPLAY set correctly? |
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[01:42] <broder> robert_ancell: the .xsession-errors says it's trying to connect to :0 |
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[01:43] <robert_ancell> RAOF, what's a good example program to connect to the X server and run through strace or similar to check what's actually failing on the connection? |
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[01:43] <broder> ah, crud. i have to run afk for the next several hours. i can try to do more testing later tonight |
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[01:44] <robert_ancell> ok |
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[01:44] <robert_ancell> 'No protocol specified' is actually an Xlib error if I remember correctly, but xlib is really bad at reporting what actually failed |
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[01:47] <robert_ancell> how weird, my session just exited with return value 134. broder's problems are contagious |
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[03:57] <desrt> jbicha: hi |
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[03:58] <jbicha> desrt: good evening! |
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[03:58] <desrt> jbicha: i have a 100% reliable gnome-shell crasher out of the gnome3 ppa. |
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[03:58] <desrt> want to check it? |
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[03:58] <jbicha> 100%? ok |
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[03:58] <desrt> open lg and click the chooser |
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[03:59] <desrt> then move the mouse over an open window |
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[03:59] <desrt> *boom* |
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[03:59] * cnd cowers in fear |
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[04:00] <jbicha> desrt: it was more a silent boom :( |
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[04:00] <desrt> jbicha: i don't get it on my f17 box |
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[04:01] <desrt> but it's a version behind, at 3.3.5 now |
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[04:01] <desrt> gonna upgrade to see if it's an upstream or ubuntu issue |
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[04:01] <jbicha> yeah, those fedora guys take forever to package stuff, what kind of bleeding edge distro do they think they are? lol |
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[04:02] <desrt> it's already packaged |
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[04:02] <desrt> i just haven't upgraded in a while |
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[04:02] <desrt> it's my tablet. i don't touch it much :p |
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[04:02] <jbicha> oh, I guess I need to find something else to be snarky at |
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[04:04] <jbicha> that crash is kinda neat though :) |
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[04:05] <desrt> yes. i love when my window/compositing manager crashes. very neat! |
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[04:05] <desrt> what's so interesting about it? :p |
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[04:05] <jbicha> the first time I did something different and it just hung with a small rectangle in the center of my screen, not sure how that happened |
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[04:07] <jbicha> well I don't use the lg, what's it there for? to make my desktop more like a web browser? |
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[04:07] * jbicha looks around for the View Source button |
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[04:07] <desrt> the lg is pretty insanely cool |
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[04:07] <desrt> and the chooser makes it even more useful |
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[04:11] <jbicha> lg is far above my level |
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[04:16] <desrt> hum |
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[04:16] <desrt> looks like seb never got around to that experimental gnome-settings-daemon upload |
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[04:17] <jbicha> which one? |
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[04:35] <desrt> jbicha: the one that lets you replace the value of arbitrary xsettings using a gsettings key |
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[04:37] <desrt> jbicha: so f17 with the same upstream gnome-shell version as the gnome3 ppa => no crash |
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[04:41] <jbicha> desrt: we don't really patch gnome-shell, gjs, mutter so I don't know |
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[04:41] <stgraber> pitti: would be great if you could have a look at bug 950087 |
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[04:41] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 950087 in libxklavier "python2.7 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_newv() when using gi binding for xklavier (gir1.2-xkl-1.0)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950087 |
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[05:45] <BigWhale> Good Morning. |
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[05:46] <pitti> Good morning |
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[05:46] <pitti> stgraber: yep, will do today |
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[05:55] <pitti> dobey: still here? |
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[05:57] <pitti> dobey: ah, found the rb MP; seems rb-ubuntuone was uploaded prematurely, it's not installable right now |
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[06:08] <pitti> dobey: ok, one failing-to-build upgrade of bzr-builddeb lalter, it now actually merges your branch |
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[06:08] <pitti> pre-applied patches, would you please just die! |
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[06:28] <pitti> Sweetshark: seems LibO stopped building some packages on armhf? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html |
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[06:28] <didrocks> good morning |
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[06:29] <didrocks> guten morgen pitti |
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[06:29] <pitti> hey didrocks |
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[06:43] <pitti> stgraber: responded in the bug, needs to be fixed in ubiquity |
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[06:46] <didrocks> ok, so latest compiz fixes regressed somehow the tap detection… again :( |
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[06:46] <didrocks> endless story |
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[06:47] <didrocks> and latest nux fix regressed again ^o |
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[06:47] * didrocks *sigh*, I don't smell an unity release today |
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[06:49] * didrocks takes all his changes in a nux branch which is left around from some weeks already and nobody reviewed |
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[06:52] <RAOF> didrocks: But at least <super><space> brings up Do again :) |
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[06:57] <RAOF> Ah, stupid git. Why can't you apply a stash to my unclean tree. |
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[06:59] <didrocks> RAOF: well, for how long, I heard about that key to bring up the hud :) |
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[06:59] <didrocks> RAOF: so, just a piece of advice, enjoy for now! :) |
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[07:00] <RAOF> Unity's going to claim *my* keybinding? NEVER! |
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[07:01] <didrocks> :) |
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[07:18] <RAOF> didrocks: I take it that MIRs for gtest et al aren't likely to be done before the weekend? |
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[07:19] <didrocks> RAOF: well, with all this unity noise, not sure. gtest is doable I guess, but I have opened questions |
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[07:19] <didrocks> the other xorg-gtests need mterry to be around |
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[07:19] <didrocks> as I NEWed it in universe |
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[07:19] <didrocks> RAOF: for gtest, did you see my uploads? |
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[07:19] <RAOF> I saw one, not the other. |
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[07:20] <didrocks> (that take us some time as making the test build failing, and so the merging rejected for unity) |
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[07:20] <didrocks> RAOF: well, tere were two, but the idea is that we need to include a makefile to be able to rebuild the upstream source |
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[07:20] <didrocks> RAOF: I did it quickly for cmake, but I'm sure there is a better way to do it |
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[07:20] <RAOF> Ah, cmake file. I didn't notice that, because I was following the google FAQ for how to build it. |
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[07:20] <didrocks> and same for Makefile.am? |
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[07:21] <didrocks> ah, there is a FAQ? |
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[07:21] <RAOF> We could certainly distribute a m4 snippet. |
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[07:21] <didrocks> yeah |
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[07:21] <didrocks> and something for cmake (maybe a README in the package?) |
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[07:21] <RAOF> Yeah; the FAQ basically says “Add gtest-all.cc to your makefile” |
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[07:21] <RAOF> README.Debian points at the upstream faq. |
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[07:22] <didrocks> but how do you detect the location of gtest-all.cc? |
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[07:22] <didrocks> hardcoded? |
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[07:22] <RAOF> Indeed. |
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[07:22] <RAOF> It wouldn't be a terrible idea to add an m4 macro + a pkg-config file (so we can do nice things like check the version). |
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[07:22] <didrocks> RAOF: agreed |
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[07:22] <didrocks> RAOF: volonteering? :) |
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[07:22] <RAOF> Ok, I guess. |
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[07:22] <RAOF> :P |
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[07:23] <didrocks> RAOF: you can remove the CMakeFile then I guess if there is the pkg-config one |
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[07:23] <RAOF> Well, you won't be able to PKG_CHECK_MODULES, so it might still be useful to have a CMakeFile. |
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[07:25] <didrocks> hum |
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[07:25] <didrocks> indeed |
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[07:25] <didrocks> but putting the cmake file in the cmake directory |
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[07:26] <didrocks> (so generate it with the prefix path) |
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[07:35] <RAOF> Anyway, I'll upload the fixed Xserver without the tests enabled now, and we can enable the tests once gtest is all done. |
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[07:37] <didrocks> RAOF: sounds fine |
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[07:57] <mvo> pitti: thanks for your aptdaemon review from the other day! do you mind if I do a upload today of the current bzr? |
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[08:04] <didrocks> each time I have a Xorg crash (every 1.5 days), I loose 15 minutes :/ |
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[08:05] <RAOF> This server will probably help. |
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[08:07] <didrocks> RAOF: you think so? I'm experiencing this kind of crash since Oneiric (the one I talked about at UDS and at the rally) |
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[08:07] <didrocks> it's the "when there is too many writings on disk" |
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[08:07] <RAOF> Ah, right. No, this won't help that. |
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[08:07] <didrocks> loosing builds are not fun :( |
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[08:08] <RAOF> Or, if you'd like it, I can say that it'll totally help. |
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[08:09] <didrocks> RAOF: just to make me happy for the week-end? And then, totally desperated again? ;) |
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[08:11] <RAOF> Indeed! |
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[08:29] <pitti> mvo: aptdaemon upload> no objection |
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[08:30] <mvo> ta, uploaded |
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[08:39] <didrocks> and a 5th attempt to try to fix alt tap detection on compiz, let's see how it goes :) |
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[08:45] <pitti> didrocks: got used to run large builds in screen? |
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[08:46] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, and replying/retweaking patches as well as we are really diverging from trunk |
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[08:46] <didrocks> and ABI break each times, so rebuilding everything |
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[08:47] <didrocks> a lot of fun :) |
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[08:49] <didrocks> pitti: but I still bless the ccache tricks :) |
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[08:49] <pitti> yeah, that should help quite a bit |
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[08:50] <pitti> it's even more effective for C++ (since g++ is just sloooow), but still helps for C |
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[08:50] <didrocks> yeah, I notice it quite clearly on compiz/nux/unity :) |
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[08:50] <didrocks> and as it can work with pbuilder too, it's awesome! |
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[08:53] * pitti raises fist about http://www.horaoficial.cl/cambio.htm and races to update tzdata everywhere |
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[08:53] <pitti> that's a change that becomes effective 11 days after the announcement |
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[08:55] <Sweetshark> pitti: ahh indeed, some fly-by changes merged from rene. will fix |
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[08:55] <pitti> Sweetshark: good morning |
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[08:55] <pitti> Sweetshark: how's your cold today? |
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[08:55] <Sweetshark> pitti: better |
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[08:55] <Sweetshark> well, its worse. I am better. |
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[08:55] <pitti> heh, good to hear |
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[08:56] <Sweetshark> didrocks: /me builds in a pbuilder with ccache running from a jenkins ... |
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[08:56] <didrocks> Sweetshark: ^5s :) |
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[08:57] <Sweetshark> didrocks: well, I get that build down to ~2h on my notebook |
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[08:57] <Sweetshark> :/ |
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[08:58] <seb128> hey |
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[08:59] <pitti> bonjour seb128 |
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[09:00] <seb128> hey pitti, how are you? |
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[09:00] * pitti shakes fist at seb128 |
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[09:00] <seb128> happy friday! |
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[09:00] <pitti> seb128: I'm great, thanks! |
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[09:00] <didrocks> salut seb128 |
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[09:00] <pitti> seb128: but busy with tzdata updates, release reports, etc.; need more time to fix 3 bugs! |
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[09:00] <seb128> pitti, ahah, I'm ahead again? ;-) |
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[09:00] <pitti> yeah, you got almost 10 yesterday |
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[09:00] <seb128> now I just need to find some unity bugs so didrocks keeps stalling a bit longer! |
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[09:00] <seb128> didrocks, lut |
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[09:01] <didrocks> it's really time to release unity, those guys are catching up |
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[09:01] <didrocks> not good :) |
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[09:01] <didrocks> seb128: well, don't worry, people find regressions before you :) |
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[09:01] <didrocks> (or rather *I* find regressions :p) |
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[09:01] <seb128> didrocks, yet another one? |
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[09:01] <pitti> seb128: the more bugs you find, the more didrocks will get on his fixed list |
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[09:02] <pitti> I for one yearn for a new unity |
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[09:02] <didrocks> seb128: yeah |
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[09:02] <didrocks> seb128: tapping issue back |
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[09:02] <didrocks> seb128: fix building… |
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[09:02] <pitti> the launcher AND hud constantly opening without me wanting them is a bit unnerving |
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[09:02] <didrocks> seb128: needing to try as well the nux jay's fix, but ABI break without a branch proposal for unity rebuildd |
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[09:02] <didrocks> so doing |
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[09:02] <pitti> and what's worse, HUD opens on top of fullscreen applications |
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[09:03] <seb128> that's not wanted? |
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[09:03] <pitti> nothing worse than having a HUD window on top of TIE fighter, which makes you miss that A-wing you were hunting down |
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[09:03] <seb128> I would assume it needs to be able to keyboard control those? |
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[09:03] <didrocks> pitti: launcher and hud opening -> that's the tapping detection |
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[09:03] <pitti> seb128: nah, I'm just trolling |
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[09:03] <seb128> lol |
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[09:03] <didrocks> you know, the thing that got 5 fixes :p |
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[09:03] <pitti> seb128: but HUD opening on Ctrl+Alt or alt+someother key or you looking the wrong way is bad |
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[09:04] <seb128> indeed |
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[09:04] <pitti> I keep getting it when switching workspaces or terminal tabs |
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[09:04] <didrocks> well, that's should be fixed when we can release |
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[09:05] <didrocks> that's one of the two things we are fighting for a week |
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[09:05] <seb128> \o/ slangasek fixed that gconf bug |
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[09:06] <didrocks> ok, found one more bug, but shoudln't be a new one |
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[09:09] <mitya57> hey, can anybody please triage & raise importance of bug 885730? |
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[09:09] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 885730 in gnome-settings-daemon "keyboard layout indicator reacts incorrectly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/885730 |
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[09:09] <mitya57> from comments: "I survived Unity migration, but not this "tiny" bug" |
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[09:09] <mitya57> :) |
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[09:09] <seb128> hey mitya57 |
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[09:09] <mitya57> hey |
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[09:09] <seb128> mitya57, right, we have trolls on random bugs |
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[09:09] <mitya57> considering that one, I'm personally annoyed by it |
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[09:10] <seb128> charles from dx said he would look at it IIRC |
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[09:10] <mitya57> ok, thanks |
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[09:19] <mvo> seb128: hey, aptdaemon is uploaded, so the restart required bit from my branch should work now (just fyi) |
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[09:19] <seb128> mvo, I noticed the upload, I will try that in a bit, thanks a lot! |
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[09:19] <mvo> anyone where with a nouveau driver? I would love to get the output of /usr/share/pyshared/debtagshw/opengl.py from precise |
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[09:19] <mvo> seb128: yw |
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[09:19] <seb128> mvo, is there a way to emulate an upgrade that needs a restart? |
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[09:19] <mvo> seb128: do you happen to use the nouveau driver ;) |
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[09:19] <seb128> mvo, would downgrading and reupgrading a deb which set the flag be enough? |
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[09:19] <seb128> mvo, no, intel only for me for years |
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[09:20] <micahg> mvo: I've got one |
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[09:20] <seb128> well one ati on my old desktop |
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[09:20] <mvo> seb128: you could reinstall a kernel, you can also probably just run "sudo touch /var/run/reboot-required" |
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[09:21] <mvo> micahg: could you run the above python command for me please so that I can get the render/vendor/version that nouveau is using? that would rock :) |
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[09:21] <micahg> mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875795/ |
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[09:21] <seb128> mvo, thanks |
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[09:21] <mvo> micahg: thanks, much appreciated! |
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[09:21] <micahg> mvo: yw |
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[09:22] <mvo> the final missing bit in the video driver detection :) |
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[09:37] <seb128> pitti, do you want me to look at this gvfs bug? |
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[09:37] <pitti> seb128: you mean bug 899858 ? |
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[09:37] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 899858 in oem-priority/precise "regression in gvfs to connect/browse using obex" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899858 |
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[09:37] <seb128> pitti, yes |
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[09:37] <pitti> if you have some time, that'd be appreciated |
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[09:38] <seb128> pitti, ok, adding to my list, I've some idea about it |
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[09:38] <pitti> seb128: unfortunately android devices don't seem to do obex file transfer, so it's not easy to test here |
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[09:38] <pitti> my old Nokia could, but I gave that away |
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[09:38] <seb128> I can test with my samsung |
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[09:38] <pitti> well, perhaps there's an app for it |
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[09:38] <pitti> seb128: oh, that's not android? |
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[09:39] <seb128> pitti, no, I've a semi smart bada phone |
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[09:57] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone |
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[09:58] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson |
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[09:58] <chrisccoulson> hi didrocks |
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[09:58] * micahg glares at the rhythmbox-mozilla package and wonders if it's NPAPI and why it recommends epiphany :) |
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[09:59] <pitti> dobey: ^ |
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[10:01] <pitti> Recommends: firefox | epiphany-browser | www-browser |
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[10:01] <pitti> micahg: ^ seems alright? |
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[10:01] <micahg> pitti: description says xulrunner based browsers which epiphany has not been in Ubuntu since karmic |
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[10:02] <micahg> so either it's NPAPI and should work in all browsers or it needs to be dropped |
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[10:02] <chrisccoulson> it's fine, the descriptions is just out of date. it's not that difficult to check ;) |
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[10:03] <chrisccoulson> if it's still in the archive, then it's ok |
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[10:03] <micahg> chrisccoulson: this is a new package |
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[10:05] <micahg> pitti: looks Mozilla specific, do we need this? |
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[10:05] <pitti> micahg: we can certainly drop the epiphany recommends |
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[10:05] <micahg> pitti: no, I meant the plugin |
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[10:05] <chrisccoulson> it isn't mozilla specific at all |
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[10:05] <chrisccoulson> it's the same plugin that we've had in the archive for years, just in a separate package now |
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[10:05] <pitti> micahg: I'm not sure; deferring to dobey |
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[10:06] <pitti> but I think it just got split out |
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[10:06] <chrisccoulson> we don't need to do anything with it, it's fine |
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[10:06] * micahg defers to chrisccoulson and will file a bug for the description |
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[10:06] <chrisccoulson> how did you come to the conclusion that it's mozilla specific? |
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[10:07] <seb128> pitti, dobey: btw why adding all those new binaries to rb? |
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[10:07] <ricotz> dobey, hi :), where is this rhythmbox tarball coming from? cant find it anywhere and there is no 2.95.5 tag |
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[10:07] <seb128> did we really need to ship magnitude etc in their own binaries? |
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[10:07] <ricotz> seb128, hi, that would be my next question ;) |
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[10:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: grepping for mozilla in the source, but now I realize that I was just looking at an alias and it's just referencing NPAPI stuff :-/ |
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[10:08] <xclaesse> seb128, do you know if someone is working to package latest empathy (+farstream and tp-farstream) in ubuntu precise? |
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[10:08] <pitti> seb128: I think it was to make it easier to remove them |
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[10:08] <seb128> dobey, pitti: I hate adding such divergence over Debian |
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[10:08] <pitti> seb128: yes, I mentioned it in the FFE |
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[10:08] <seb128> xclaesse, kenvandine is, it's in the ubuntu-desktop ppa |
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[10:08] <pitti> I sponsored it this morning because it made the desktop uninstallable |
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[10:08] <xclaesse> seb128, good, thanks ! |
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[10:08] <xclaesse> a ppa, exactly what I needed :D |
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[10:09] <micahg> pitti: you mean dobey made the desktop uninstallable by uploading a package depending on his creation before it was uploaded |
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[10:09] <seb128> pitti, ok, I'm all for getting the new version, I'm just unsure those packaging changes are good idea |
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[10:09] <pitti> it should ceratainly be done in Debian as well, or we'll revert them |
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[10:11] <seb128> pitti, ok, great, thanks |
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[10:11] <pitti> well, not "great", but let's see what debian says to the split |
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[10:12] <seb128> pitti, well great to know that people are not pushing to keep the divergence over Debian |
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[10:12] <seb128> though I would have avoided the packaging change at this point |
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[10:12] <seb128> not a big deal though |
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[10:12] <seb128> we can merge back,sort that later |
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[10:15] <pitti> chrisccoulson: hm, latest firefox forgot how to drag&drop tabs? |
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[10:16] <pitti> i. e. change the sorting? |
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[10:17] <chrisccoulson> pitti - that seems to work here. have you got an addon that is breaking it? |
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[10:17] <pitti> it was working until yesterday at least |
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[10:18] <pitti> chrisccoulson: adblock plus and easy youtube downloader; neither seem relevant? |
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[10:18] <pitti> and menubar, testpilot, ubufox of course |
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[10:18] <chrisccoulson> yeah, they should be |
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[10:19] <chrisccoulson> **shouldn't be |
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[10:19] * chrisccoulson needs more coffee |
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[10:28] <pitti> chrisccoulson: hm, a restart fixed it; seems the automatic restart broke a tad |
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[10:29] <pitti> chrisccoulson: I also noticed that in that auto-restarted firefox it did a poor job of remembering the value of input fields, let's hope that's gone now as well :) |
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[10:29] <pitti> so perhaps the auto-restart just didn't reset itself properly |
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[10:36] <micahg> pitti: I just noticed that the I got an unable to start web browser error, but the browser opened fine, any debug info I can get you before I close it? |
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[10:37] <pitti> micahg: was this a root/system user report or a crash from your user? |
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[10:37] <micahg> idk, it was unity-2d |
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[10:37] <pitti> micahg: "unable to start web browser" -> terminal or dialog? |
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[10:37] <micahg> dialog |
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[10:37] <pitti> micahg: ok, your user then |
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[10:38] <pitti> micahg: apport-cli, -gtk, or -kde? |
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[10:38] <micahg> apport-gtk |
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[10:38] <pitti> ok, that means that xdg-open exited with nonzero |
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[10:39] <pitti> micahg: if you run xdg-open <the URL apport opened> in a terminal, does it exit with 0? |
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[10:39] <micahg> pitti: what's the special shell call to check the return value of the last command? |
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[10:40] <pitti> micahg: echo $? |
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[10:40] <micahg> yep, 0 |
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[10:40] <pitti> hmm |
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[10:40] <pitti> so, xdg-open is evil |
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[10:40] <pitti> micahg: at this point I can't think of further debug questions, I'm afraid |
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[10:40] <pitti> FYI, I have $? in my $PS1, it's quite handy |
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[10:41] <micahg> pitti: is it worth a report since i don't think I can reproduce? |
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[10:41] <pitti> micahg: checking existing bugs.. |
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[10:41] <micahg> apport? I didn't see any |
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[10:41] <pitti> right, doesn't seem to be reported |
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[10:42] <pitti> they might be against xdg-utils of course (which is where it actually belongs) |
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[10:42] <Sweetshark> pitti: I can has another bug pattern for bug 925049? |
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[10:42] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 925049 in libreoffice "soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal()" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925049 |
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[10:42] <Sweetshark> pitti: please |
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[10:42] <pitti> Sweetshark: lazy you! :-) |
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[10:42] <pitti> Sweetshark: yes, can do |
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[10:43] <Sweetshark> pitti: no, lazy reporters not checking for obvious dupes |
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[10:44] <pitti> (I meant for not writing it yourself, but nevermind) |
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[10:45] <pitti> Sweetshark: committed |
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[10:47] <Sweetshark> pitti: I didnt even try, fearing some hardcore launchpad permissions and group membership minefield on the way ... |
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[10:47] <pitti> Sweetshark: ~ubuntu-bugcontrol |
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[10:48] <Sweetshark> pitti: im a member, so that can be all of it! |
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[10:48] <Sweetshark> s/can/cant/ |
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[10:48] <Sweetshark> ;) |
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[10:48] <pitti> that's the group who can commit to lp:~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns |
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[10:48] <pitti> anyway, not a biggie |
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[10:49] <pitti> Sweetshark: I just wonder why the client-side duplication detection doesn't pick that up |
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[10:49] <micahg> pitti: I don't see an xdg-utils bug |
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[10:49] <pitti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20120309/ |
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[10:49] <pitti> \o/ not oversized any more |
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[10:51] * Sweetshark hopes to get to <700 open bugs in LibreOffice before release. |
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[10:54] <micahg> Sweetshark: wow, your not in such bad shape, we have >1k more in just the firefox source |
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[10:54] <micahg> s/your/you're/ |
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[10:56] <Sweetshark> micahg: Most of those are harmless, but the bigger the number of bugs, the easier it is to let a critical one fly by under the radar. |
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[11:00] <seb128> mvo, new aptdaemon is buggy |
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[11:00] <seb128> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/pkcompat.py", line 2157, in _emit_require_restart |
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[11:00] <seb128> trans.pktrans.RequireRestart(pk_enums.RESTART_SYSTEM, "") |
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[11:00] <seb128> AttributeError: 'Transaction' object has no attribute 'pktrans' |
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[11:00] <seb128> mvo, when installing an update which should require a restart |
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[11:01] <mvo> seb128: meh, give me a minute |
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[11:01] <seb128> mvo, the indicator-session works |
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[11:01] <seb128> mvo, it turned red |
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[11:02] <mvo> seb128: very nice |
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[11:09] <Sweetshark> eh, how do I remove a 'security issue' flag from a bug? |
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[11:09] <mvo> seb128: I need to get lunch now, sorry, I will look afterwards - do you have more backtrace? I'm not 100% certain what is causing this from my initial look |
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[11:10] <seb128> mvo, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/875890/ |
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[11:11] <seb128> mvo, enjoy lunch |
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[11:30] <mitya57> Something that shouldn't normally happen: I get yelp crash every time I try to search — what can be the reason? (see bug 947188) |
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[11:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 947188 in yelp "yelp assert failure: *** glibc detected *** yelp: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0xacb71ea0 ***" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947188 |
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[11:42] <seb128> mitya57, bug? |
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[11:42] <mitya57> bug 947188 |
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[11:42] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 947188 in yelp "yelp assert failure: *** glibc detected *** yelp: double free or corruption (fasttop): 0xacb71ea0 ***" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/947188 |
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[11:43] <seb128> mitya57, right, I saw that, you ask "what can be the reason" -> a bug |
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[11:44] <seb128> that's the reason |
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[11:44] <seb128> what's the reason to segfaults and issues? |
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[11:44] <seb128> that's a weird question to ask... |
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[11:44] <mitya57> what's the reason for it working for everyone except me? <- that's what I mean |
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[11:47] <chrisccoulson> you should try running it in valgrind |
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[12:08] <mitya57> chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/875954/ |
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[12:08] <mitya57> (sorry for the delay, it hanged after start and failed to load the home page for 30 mins) |
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[13:02] <xclaesse> is it known that killall does not seems to work correctly on precise anymore? |
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[13:03] <xclaesse> killall telepathy-gabble says telepathy-gabble: no process found |
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[13:03] <xclaesse> even though it auto-completed it with tab |
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[13:03] <xclaesse> and of course, ps shows it, and kill its pid works |
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[13:08] <Sweetshark> xclaesse: file a bug, I guess. If you need a workaround try pkill (killall is evil anyway for breaking unix tradition) |
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[13:11] <pitti> chrisccoulson: I'd appreciate if you could take a look at bug 950097, I left a question there for you |
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[13:11] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 950097 in ubuntu-defaults-builder "offline start page doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950097 |
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[13:31] <chrisccoulson> pitti, answered now |
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[13:37] <pitti> chrisccoulson: ah, so I should remove that functionality from defaults-builder? |
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[13:38] <chrisccoulson> pitti - yeah, i think that would be best |
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[14:02] <dobey> micahg, pitti: i used the same description/etc that totem-mozilla uses, for rhythmbox-mozilla. if you think it's wrong to say "xulrunner" there, we should change both i guess. |
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[14:02] <mdeslaur> seb128: I got a UIFe for the new lock setting |
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[14:02] <seb128> mdeslaur, \o/ |
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[14:03] <mdeslaur> seb128: do I just commit to the three trees, or do you want me to upload too? |
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[14:04] <seb128> mdeslaur, I can handle both if you want, i.e from your debdiff |
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[14:04] <seb128> mdeslaur, I need to upload gsettings-desktop-schemas and gnome-settings-daemon today anyway |
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[14:04] <seb128> mdeslaur, and I can sneak g-c-c work if there is an upload for that |
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[14:05] <dobey> seb128, pitti: intend to push binnews to debian as well, yes. but rhythmbox-ubuntuone needed new crasher fixes |
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[14:05] <mdeslaur> seb128: wait a sec, I've bumped the gsettings-desktop-schemas depends in gnome-settings-daemon and g-c-c since I posted the debdiffs |
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[14:05] <seb128> dobey, it's just surprising that you went for new binaries changes |
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[14:06] <seb128> mdeslaur, that's fine, I can fix the depends |
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[14:06] <dobey> seb128: sorry. i listed them in the ffe bug report i filed the other day |
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[14:06] <mdeslaur> seb128: ok, then the debdiffs + the bumped depends |
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[14:06] <mdeslaur> seb128: thanks! |
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[14:06] <seb128> dobey, well it's just that I don't see the point to divert from Debian on that |
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[14:06] <seb128> mdeslaur, thanks |
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[14:07] <seb128> mdeslaur, I might rename the key |
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[14:07] <mdeslaur> seb128: sure! |
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[14:07] <seb128> mdeslaur, i.e ubuntu-lock-on-suspend |
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[14:07] <seb128> mdeslaur, I like to have non upstream stuff ubuntu- prefixed, avoid confusion for everybody |
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[14:07] <mdeslaur> that sounds good |
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[14:07] <seb128> great ;-) |
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[14:09] <desrt> chrisccoulson: hello |
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[14:10] <desrt> chrisccoulson: i've set the 3 different settings for "send fucking plain text mail" in thunderbird and it's still trying to send html |
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[14:10] <dobey> seb128: well, external plug-ins having to Depends: rhythmbox-plugins, to work, is a bit broken. and it's nice to be able to remove someo of the plug-ins. anyway, i will work to push the changes into debian as well. was just a bit rushed to get it into ubuntu as there are crash fixes rhythmbox-ubuntuone needs :-/ |
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[14:10] <desrt> is there a 4th and 5th setting somewhere? |
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[14:10] <dobey> desrt: don't stress so much. the hair on your neck is turning grey. |
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[14:11] <seb128> dobey, ok, thanks |
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[14:11] <seb128> hey desrt |
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[14:11] <kenvandine> good morning folks |
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[14:11] <kenvandine> seb128, farstream sync is in NEW |
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[14:12] <dobey> pitti, seb128, kenvandine: care to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/precise/twisted/fix-935756/+merge/96617 ? :) |
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[14:12] <seb128> hey kenvandine |
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[14:13] <kenvandine> dobey, sure |
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[14:13] <dobey> thanks |
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[14:13] <seb128> kenvandine, no it isn't ;-) |
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[14:13] <kenvandine> seb128, old joke, i'm onto you! |
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[14:13] <kenvandine> :-D |
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[14:13] <seb128> kenvandine, hehe |
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[14:14] <seb128> kenvandine, I'm going to upload a gtk in a bit, how did it go for the eventbox scrolling stuff? |
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[14:14] <kenvandine> dobey, i would rather have someone more familiar with twisted, it scares me |
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[14:15] <kenvandine> maybe ping doko? |
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[14:15] <seb128> dobey, same than kenvandine |
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[14:15] <dobey> ok |
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[14:15] <kenvandine> seb128, sort of... having to explicitly set GDK_SCROLL_MASK on widgets seems like it is going to have tons of side effects |
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[14:15] <kenvandine> adding it to the eventbox sort of helped gwibber |
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[14:16] <kenvandine> but all the widgets in the eventbox blocks the scroll events |
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[14:16] <seb128> kenvandine, can you move to discuss it on the #gtk+ channel? |
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[14:16] <kenvandine> so everywhere there is a label it gets ignored |
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[14:16] <kenvandine> yeah, i about to do that |
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[14:16] <seb128> kenvandine, they will probably unblock you quickly compared at having to poke and figure it by yourself |
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[14:16] <dobey> awesome |
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[14:16] <dobey> it's like scrolling a web page and being like "oh hi flash!" |
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[14:20] <ricotz> dobey, hi |
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[14:21] <dobey> ricotz: hi |
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[14:21] <kenvandine> seb128, i also suspect we might have more xi2 problems, if i add GDK_SCROLL_MASK and GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL_MASK all i get are GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL events |
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[14:21] <ricotz> dobey, where is this rhythmbox tarball coming from? and there is no 2.95.5 tag |
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[14:21] <kenvandine> which afaik i shouldn't, since i don't have the right kind of device |
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[14:21] <dobey> ricotz: http://people.gnome.org/~jmatthew/rhythmbox-2.95.5.tar.xz |
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[14:22] <seb128> kenvandine, yeah, it's for sure having some issues, I hope they get sorted soon |
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[14:22] <dobey> ricotz: it's a "prerelease" he made for me, and not an official tagged release. yeah i know :-/ |
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[14:22] <kenvandine> not sure if that would be in gdk or X though |
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[14:22] <ricotz> dobey, hmm, i see, do you know which git hash it is based on? |
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[14:23] <stgraber> pitti: thanks, I must admit I simply tried to find equivalents for our current code and as Engine existed I simply used it ;) |
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[14:24] <stgraber> pitti: will do the changes in ubiquity now and see if that works as expected |
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[14:24] <ricotz> dobey, nm, the changelog says it |
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[14:24] <dobey> ricotz: ok |
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[14:25] <dpm> hi pitti, it seems we've still got the language pack version 20120221 in precise, but I see that the cron job is enabled. Do you know why langpacks are not being released after the beta freeze? |
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[14:26] <Beret> does anyone know if there's going to be a way to disable the HUD in precise? |
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[14:26] <Beret> (CCSM doesn't count) |
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[14:27] <ricotz> dobey, the mpris patch isnt included in this version |
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[14:27] <dobey> Beret: dconf-editor |
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[14:27] <dobey> ricotz: yes it is |
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[14:28] <ricotz> dobey, no, it isnt |
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[14:28] <ricotz> could you check again? |
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[14:29] <dobey> ricotz: MPRIS_BUS_NAME_PREFIX ".rhythmbox", |
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[14:29] <dobey> ricotz: that's what's in the code in the tarball |
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[14:30] <ricotz> dobey, i mean this one http://git.gnome.org/browse/rhythmbox/commit/?id=778d3317900337dc7177d0a80ee052f966094485 |
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[14:32] <dobey> ricotz: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/rhythmbox/precise/revision/201 doesn't include that. the changes in the patch added in that revision are included in this tarball. |
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[14:32] <ricotz> dobey, ah there where two mpris fixes |
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[14:32] <dobey> ricotz: so i guess that patch was missing this change too then? |
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[14:33] <ricotz> dobey, yeah sorry, i think so |
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[14:34] <dobey> ricotz: i think moch will make a 2.96 release in the next few days. if you want to add that patch or wait for tarball, either way is fine by me. :) |
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[14:35] <ricotz> dobey, shouldnt be that important, just thought this was the patch that was added at last |
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[14:36] <dobey> ricotz: ok |
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[14:50] <stgraber> pitti: any idea why the .name property of a ConfigItem contains that much garbage http://paste.ubuntu.com/876095/? |
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[14:51] <stgraber> pitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/876097/ is my current diff for converting from xklavier to gir Xkl |
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[15:00] <kenvandine> seb128, farstream is in binNEW |
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[15:01] * kenvandine waits for seb128's response :) |
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[15:01] <seb128> kenvandine: is that aimed to main? I didn't follow much |
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[15:01] <kenvandine> yes |
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[15:01] <kenvandine> pitti said no MIR |
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[15:01] <seb128> kenvandine: I'm sure you didn't wait for this response :p |
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[15:01] <kenvandine> since it is a rename |
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[15:01] <seb128> kenvandine: ok, good |
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[15:02] <pitti> yay, my network is back |
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[15:02] <pitti> stgraber: ah, great |
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[15:02] <kenvandine> pitti, having network is good, mkay' |
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[15:02] <seb128> kenvandine: I will wait for the amd64 binaries |
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[15:02] <kenvandine> :) |
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[15:02] <pitti> dpm: I only re-enabled the cronjob yesterday or so |
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[15:02] <kenvandine> seb128, ok |
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[15:02] <pitti> dpm: and I saw langpacks on the buildds today |
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[15:02] <seb128> kenvandine: should be there in less than half an hour |
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[15:02] <seb128> kenvandine: is it blocking you? |
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[15:02] <kenvandine> seb128, thx |
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[15:02] <kenvandine> well, i was going to wait for it to upload all the things that need it |
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[15:03] <kenvandine> i hate having to hit retry a bunch of time for things |
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[15:03] <seb128> kenvandine: things will dep wait, don't bother |
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[15:03] <kenvandine> yeah, but they will queue to build and then dep wait then queue to build again |
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[15:03] <kenvandine> i guess the builders aren't busy today |
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[15:05] <pitti> stgraber: it's indeed a bit of a nasty API, see the wrappers I had to do in the test-gi.py script |
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[15:05] <pitti> stgraber: it's delivered as an array, not a staring |
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[15:05] <pitti> string |
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[15:05] <kenvandine> seb128, so with the smooth scrolling landing in gtk, vala apps that depend on GDK_SCROLL events will be broken until vala updates to the latest gtk |
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[15:05] <seb128> kenvandine: is that the same will all bindings? |
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[15:05] <kenvandine> i still think we need to add that back to the eventbox, that is a common use case for an eventbox |
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[15:05] <kenvandine> i assume |
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[15:06] <seb128> :-( |
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[15:06] <seb128> what changed? |
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[15:06] <kenvandine> well, gir is easier |
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[15:06] <kenvandine> the gtk gir should already have it right? |
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[15:06] <seb128> gtk stopped emiting scroll events in favor of smooth scrolling ones? |
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[15:06] <kenvandine> yes |
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[15:06] <kenvandine> if you have a xi2 server |
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[15:07] <kenvandine> you get the smooth scroll event |
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[15:07] <pitti> stgraber: |
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[15:07] <pitti> i = s.find(b'\x00') |
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[15:07] <pitti> return s[:i].decode() |
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[15:07] <kenvandine> and the vapi doesn't know about it |
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[15:07] <seb128> kenvandine: still it's an abi change late in the cycle, I start pondering reverting smooth scrolling for precise |
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[15:07] <pitti> stgraber: that's my item_str(s) method which converts a zero-terminated int8 array into a proper str |
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[15:07] <stgraber> pitti: oh, fun ;) ok will update to that then... |
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[15:07] <kenvandine> seb128, i do fear how many unknown side effects there are |
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[15:08] <pitti> stgraber: accessing bare structs with static data is fun :/ |
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[15:08] <kenvandine> i could manually go add the SCROLL_MASK to every place i create an event box in gwibber and if we don't patch gtk to add them to the eventbox |
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[15:08] <kenvandine> gwibber will be fine |
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[15:09] <kenvandine> but i think the right thing to do is add both scroll and smooth scroll to the eventbox, it is common reason to use an eventbox |
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[15:09] <kenvandine> but if it has GDK_SMOOTH_SCROLL_MASK on it, then that is what gets emitted |
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[15:09] <stgraber> pitti: wow, the test actually pass now! thanks |
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[15:09] <kenvandine> instead of GDK_SCROLL |
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[15:09] <pitti> stgraber: \o/ |
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[15:09] <kenvandine> so if apps depend on that, they will break |
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[15:09] <kenvandine> or in the vala case, the vapi doesn't know about them yet |
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[15:10] <dobey> kenvandine: gwibbre has an eventbox with a box with a bunch of eventboxes? |
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[15:19] <chrisccoulson> desrt, sorry, was on the bike |
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[15:19] <chrisccoulson> there aren't any more settings that i'm aware of :/ |
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[15:19] <kenvandine> dobey, yes... because we do our own scrolling |
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[15:19] <chrisccoulson> desrt, you're not using it under unity, are you? |
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[15:20] <dpm> pitti, ah, ok, thanks! |
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[15:20] <dobey> kenvandine: why not just shove it in a scrolledwindow? |
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[15:20] <kenvandine> oh i wish i could |
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[15:20] <kenvandine> i will evently do something like that |
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[15:20] <kenvandine> eventually |
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[15:21] <dobey> if you can't, your code is broken :) |
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[15:21] <kenvandine> right now it is a several boxes, side by side in a group |
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[15:21] <kenvandine> and each box scrolls |
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[15:22] <dobey> meh |
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[15:22] <desrt> chrisccoulson: no. |
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[15:22] <kenvandine> and they also only contain as many tiles as you can see |
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[15:23] <kenvandine> njpatel was getting really fancy with that stuff |
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[15:23] <kenvandine> it just ended up being rather complicated |
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[15:24] <chrisccoulson> desrt, are you replying to a mail? |
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[15:25] <desrt> yes |
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[15:25] <desrt> the mail in question is in plain text |
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[15:25] <desrt> restarting thunderbird fixed it |
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[15:25] <desrt> i really only did require 3 settings |
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[15:25] <chrisccoulson> lol |
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[15:25] <chrisccoulson> bugger :( |
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[15:26] <desrt> thunderbird seems to be built on the assumption that you'd only ever want to send text email because something is wrong |
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[15:26] <desrt> ie: it lets you list particular people to avoid sending html mail to |
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[15:27] <chrisccoulson> the reason i asked if you were using it under unity before, is because the radio buttons in the Format submenu seem to be broken |
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[15:27] <chrisccoulson> ie, when i select "Plain text" here, i get 2 items selected ;) |
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[15:31] <dobey> desrt: gsettings/dconf-daemon talk over dbus, right? |
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[15:31] <desrt> gsettings uses the dconfgsettings backend which talks to the dconf-service over dbus, yes |
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[15:32] <desrt> it's possible for gsettings to use non-dconf backends, though |
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[15:32] <desrt> and the 'talking' only happens for writes |
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[15:32] <dobey> oh. reads happen directly via open() on the db? |
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[15:32] <desrt> yes |
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[15:32] <dobey> bummer |
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[15:32] <desrt> that's why it's fast |
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[15:32] <desrt> it's also why i'm on a campaign to remove all writes on login |
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[15:33] <desrt> because then the service doesn't need to be running at all |
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[15:33] <dobey> is there any way to make it not do that? |
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[15:33] <desrt> not do what? reads? |
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[15:33] <dobey> not read settings, that is. |
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[15:33] <desrt> don't call g_settings_get()? |
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[15:33] <dobey> yes, so user settings don't screw up tests |
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[15:33] <desrt> oh |
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[15:33] <desrt> GSETTINGS_BACKEND=memory |
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[15:33] <dobey> ah |
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[15:34] <desrt> that will do all gsettings lookups against an (initially empty) GHashTable in the local process |
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[15:34] <dobey> desrt: excellent. thanks! |
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[15:36] <jbicha> what does this mean, re: the clutter 1.9 ffe ? http://lists.clutter-project.org/pipermail/clutter-devel-list/2012-March/000358.html |
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[15:54] <seb128> cyphermox, hey |
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[15:55] <cyphermox> hey seb128 |
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[15:56] <cyphermox> what's up |
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[15:57] <seb128> cyphermox, how are you? |
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[15:57] <seb128> cyphermox, I noticed there is a new bluez,obex, want to have a look next week if that's updates we should do? |
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[15:57] <cyphermox> pretty good, an you |
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[15:57] <seb128> cyphermox, the bluez.org description suggest it's mostly bug fixes |
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[15:57] <cyphermox> yes, I'll merge from debian for bluez |
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[15:57] <seb128> cyphermox, I'm good thanks ;-) |
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[15:58] <cyphermox> obex I hadn't seen but there's one or two things I want to look at today in bluetooth, once I'm done with the update of NM. |
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[15:58] <cyphermox> seb128: btw, are you in the release team? |
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[15:58] <seb128> cyphermox, no, I'm not |
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[15:58] <cyphermox> ah |
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[15:59] <cyphermox> I'm preparing an update of NM now to another snapshot, and 0.9.4 is supposed to land around March 20. |
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[16:00] <cyphermox> pitti: ^^ I want to get a release tarball in precise rather than snapshots if possible |
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[16:00] <pitti> cyphermox: indeed, appreciated |
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[16:00] <cyphermox> read that "around march 20" as "before March 20" |
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[16:01] <cyphermox> pitti: there's a FFe bug open for that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/950313 |
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[16:01] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 950313 in network-manager "[FFe] Update NetworkManager to a recent snapshot in prevision for the 0.9.4 release." [Undecided,New] |
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[16:01] <pitti> cyphermox: does it actually have new features? |
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[16:02] <desrt> hum |
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[16:02] <desrt> my system is running like a pig |
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[16:02] <cyphermox> kind of. connectivity checking, vlan and bonding weren't completely in by feature freeze |
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[16:02] <desrt> like, when i open a new firefox window, it takes about 3 seconds for the window to first draw itself |
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[16:02] <cyphermox> at the sprint I tried to merge in connectivity checking but it didn't work well enough |
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[16:03] <pitti> cyphermox: ah, saw the commit list, very detailled; thanks |
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[16:03] <desrt> anyone else having the same? |
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[16:03] <pitti> my computer freezes to a crawl whenever its busy with large files |
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[16:03] <pitti> heavey IO really sucks |
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[16:03] <desrt> pitti: i also noticed that compiling was quite a lot slower than i am used to... |
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[16:03] <cyphermox> pitti: hopefully that's detailed enough for the release team to make an informed decision. I'm not overly worried, and I just finished building a pacakge to give it a good test run |
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[16:03] <pitti> and this is "fast" class SSD |
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[16:03] <chrisccoulson> mine freezes to a crawl every time i try to compile anything now |
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[16:04] <desrt> new kernel? |
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[16:04] <chrisccoulson> i can literally watch the frames when i try to switch workspaces |
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[16:04] <chrisccoulson> the workspace switching animation takes in excess of 5 seconds when i'm compiling things now |
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[16:04] <pitti> desrt: not for me; linux is like that for years |
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[16:04] <chrisccoulson> that only started recently |
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[16:04] <desrt> ya. for me it's definitely gotten quite a lot worse recently |
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[16:04] <desrt> like, i only noticed for the first time today |
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[16:05] <ogra_> switch to a 2.2 kernel ... lots faster ! |
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[16:08] <pitti> ogra_: I'm sure udev and upstart will like that a lot! |
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[16:08] <ogra_> haha |
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[16:09] <desrt> extra points for systemd :) |
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[16:10] <ogra_> shudder |
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[16:14] <BigWhale> is network manager installed on ubuntu-server? |
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[16:15] <pitti> no |
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[16:15] <desrt> MacSlow: hey |
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[16:16] <BigWhale> pitti, I thought so. Thanks. |
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[16:16] <desrt> MacSlow: i want to try to tackle this unity average-bg-color thing today |
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[16:16] <MacSlow> desrt, still busy with design-stuff here |
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[16:16] <desrt> MacSlow: can you point me at a definitive list of all the places that it is used? i know that unity sets it, the dash uses it and also notify-osd |
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[16:16] <desrt> MacSlow: i'll do the work |
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[16:16] <desrt> MacSlow: i just need to know where to do the work :) |
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[16:17] <MacSlow> desrt, so it's only used for two things... to tint the dash and picked up in notify-osd (although there's still a bug somewhere with picking up the color so it turns out all wrong) |
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[16:18] <desrt> MacSlow: i plan to turn it into a property on the root window |
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[16:20] <MacSlow> desrt, iirc it's used in class BGHash (unity side) and in notify-osd picked up in class Defaults (defaults.c) |
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[16:20] <desrt> MacSlow: i guess unity is capable of communicating with itself for the purpose of the dash? |
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[16:20] <MacSlow> desrt, sure |
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[16:20] * desrt sees only the setting being set from unity |
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[16:21] <desrt> MacSlow: so one writer: unity and one reader: notify-osd |
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[16:21] <MacSlow> desrt, correct |
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[16:21] <desrt> okay. should be easy. |
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[16:21] <desrt> particularly since notify-osd is transient |
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[16:21] <desrt> it means i don't have to watch for changes -- only query it just before showing each bubble |
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[16:21] <desrt> i assume you don't care that the bubble dynamically changes background colour if a background fade is in progress at the time the bubble is showing :) |
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[16:22] <MacSlow> desrt, no it won't do that... it'll pick the avg. color currently stored locally when creating a bubble |
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[16:23] <MacSlow> if created and the avg. color changes only the next bubbles will pick that one up |
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[16:23] <desrt> cool |
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[16:23] <desrt> i'm not even going to store it locally, though |
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[16:23] <desrt> just query the server every time |
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[16:27] <desrt> interesting. _XROOTPMAP_ID(PIXMAP): pixmap id # 0x1000001 |
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[16:41] <mdeslaur> seb128: I've attached a new debdiff that changes the switch to a checkbox, much nicer |
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[16:42] <seb128> mdeslaur, ok, good |
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[16:42] <seb128> I've almost done with g-s-d |
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[16:42] <seb128> soon to gcc ;-) |
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[16:42] <mdeslaur> cool :) |
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[16:49] <pitti> good night everyone! have a nice weekend |
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[16:49] <pitti> seb128: and stop upping your bug counter, impossible to keep up :) |
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[16:50] <seb128> pitti, 'night ;-) |
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[16:50] <seb128> have a good w.e |
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[17:44] <chrisccoulson> right, i've got a valgrind capable build of thunderbird. now time to see who is leaking memory here :) |
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[18:14] <desrt> chrisccoulson: EVERYONE |
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[18:14] <chrisccoulson> heh |
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[18:14] <chrisccoulson> it's a pain having to rebuild it just so i can run it in valgrind |
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[18:17] <seb128> mdeslaur, there? |
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[18:17] <mdeslaur> seb128: yes |
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[18:18] <seb128> mdeslaur, is there any reason why you packed a checkbox and a label in a box? |
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[18:18] <mdeslaur> seb128: what's up? |
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[18:18] <seb128> mdeslaur, rather than just setting the label on the GtkCheckButton |
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[18:18] <seb128> mdeslaur, just checking before "fixing" it |
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[18:18] <seb128> mdeslaur, the way you did it you can't click on the label to check,uncheck the box |
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[18:18] <mdeslaur> seb128: d'oh, no...it's just the result of me converting it from the switch |
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[18:19] <seb128> mdeslaur, ok, I'm changing it then, no worry, |
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[18:19] <seb128> mdeslaur, thanks |
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[18:19] <mdeslaur> seb128: sorry about that |
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[18:19] <mdeslaur> thanks |
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[18:19] <seb128> no worry, thanks for the good work ;-) |
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[18:19] <desrt> gord: ping |
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[18:23] <didrocks> have a good week-end everyone! |
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[18:23] <desrt> didrocks: you too. bye :) |
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[18:23] <didrocks> desrt: thanks ;) |
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[18:23] <mterry> didrocks, bye! |
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[18:23] * mterry hides again |
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[18:29] <seb128> oh, a mterry! |
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[18:29] <seb128> mterry, how are you? |
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[18:30] <seb128> mterry, still busy trying to catch up with design requests? ;-) |
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[18:30] <mterry> seb128, yeah a bit. Trying to figure out performance issues in unity-greeter, which design didn't like |
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[18:30] <seb128> mterry, do you also get that 1 second "hang" in the select user animation when switching to the greeter? |
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[18:32] <mterry> seb128, not sure. explain? |
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[18:35] <seb128> mterry, not sure how I trigger it exactly now, sometime when switching users I'm send to the greeter, and when the greeter starts there is a "sliding effect" to select my users which is not at the top of the list |
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[18:35] <seb128> mterry, that "slide to the user to select" often is jerky |
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[18:36] <mterry> hm |
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[18:36] <seb128> like it stops for some 0.1s and resume |
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[18:36] <mterry> i guess that's the general thing. stopping jerkiness |
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[18:36] <mterry> Not sure the cause yet |
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[18:36] <seb128> ok |
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[18:36] <mterry> seb128, do you have users with long names? |
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[18:36] <seb128> well I was curious rather than complaining |
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[18:36] <mterry> such that they fade off? |
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[18:36] <seb128> no |
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[18:36] <mterry> bummer, i fixed a slow down with those |
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[18:36] <seb128> well animation is smooth once the greeter is loaded |
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[18:36] <seb128> I though it was because it was io busy or something |
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[18:37] <mterry> maybe it's just cpu bound or something on startup... |
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[18:37] <seb128> right |
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[18:37] <mterry> but I've seen jerkiness in other situations |
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[18:40] <seb128> mvo, bug #950791 |
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[18:40] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 950791 in aptdaemon "<type 'exceptions.AttributeError'>: 'Transaction' object has no attribute 'pktrans'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950791 |
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[18:40] <seb128> mvo, that's the bug I mentioned this morning with the new aptdaemon |
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[19:31] <gatox> hi, does anyone know where i can report a bug about the hud? |
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[19:31] <desrt> seb128: seeing #gnome-hackers? |
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[19:34] <dobey> gatox: unity |
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[19:35] <gatox> dobey, ok, i was asking because maybe was something specific for that |
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[19:35] <gatox> dobey, thanks |
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[19:35] <dobey> gatox: dx team will file it against unity for tracking anyway |
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[19:46] <chrisccoulson> uh-oh, "Solihull Police (@SolihullPolice) is now following you on Twitter" |
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[19:46] <chrisccoulson> that's not what i want to see! |
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[19:46] <chrisccoulson> ;) |
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[19:51] <dobey> chrisccoulson: haha |
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[19:55] <seb128> desrt, specifics? it's friday night and I don't feel like reading 5 pages of scrollback to figure what you pinged about ;-) |
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[19:58] <desrt> seb128: so how unity works now is something like this: |
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[19:58] <desrt> gnome-control-center modifies the background image settings, writes to gsettings |
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[19:58] <desrt> g-s-d picks those up, loads the image, writes to a pixmap in X and sets a property on the root window to point to the pixmap |
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[19:58] <desrt> unity sees this change, loads the image out of the X server, does an average calculation on it, sets the average-bg-color in GSettings |
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[19:58] <desrt> notify-osd picks it up |
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[19:58] <seb128> what has g-s-d to do with that? |
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[19:59] <desrt> the g-s-d background plugin is what is responsible for actually setting the background |
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[19:59] <seb128> no |
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[19:59] <seb128> nautilus is |
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[19:59] <seb128> but I guess same difference |
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[19:59] <desrt> very well |
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[19:59] <desrt> in either case, they're using libgnome-desktop "gnome-bg" |
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[19:59] <seb128> it's probably g-s-d in GNOME because nautilus doesn't handle the background |
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[19:59] <seb128> sorry, please keep going ;-) |
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[20:00] <desrt> i'm doing a patch now to libgnome-desktop to set the average colour in a new property on the X root window |
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[20:00] <seb128> great |
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[20:00] <desrt> and notify-osd can just read it straight from there |
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[20:00] <desrt> so it will work even without unity |
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[20:00] <seb128> \o/ |
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[20:00] <desrt> looks like it will be accepted too |
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[20:00] <seb128> is there a standard definition on what the average color is? |
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[20:00] <desrt> Company and halflife are already arguing over ways to make the algorithm 'more intelligent' than just using the average :) |
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[20:00] <seb128> like something everybody agrees on? |
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[20:00] <desrt> well |
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[20:00] <desrt> there is some existing code there, and i use that |
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[20:01] <desrt> it's the same code the answers the gnome_bg_is_dark() question |
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[20:01] <desrt> basically, just adds up all the pixels |
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[20:01] <desrt> and divides by the number of pixels |
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[20:01] <desrt> it sounds like we may get fancy here, though |
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[20:01] <desrt> a great example is if you have green grass and a blue sky |
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[20:02] <desrt> in that case it sounds like Company wants to say that there are two representative colours |
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[20:02] <desrt> taking the average blue and the average green, separately |
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[20:02] <seb128> right |
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[20:02] <seb128> it opens the way to complex logic though |
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[20:02] <seb128> then you need to consider what are the regions and where your ui is placed |
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[20:02] <desrt> ya. i was thinking about that. |
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[20:03] <desrt> i think we should not worry about it |
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[20:03] <desrt> this approach is already better than the existing one |
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[20:03] <seb128> right, we can still improve over time if needed |
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[20:03] <seb128> but the medium value should be a good start |
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[20:03] <chrisccoulson> ouch: https://twitter.com/#!/paulrouget/status/178198646188294144 |
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[20:03] <seb128> desrt, thanks for working on that ;-) |
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[20:03] <desrt> if needed, we could do an average for each 'quadrant' or so |
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[20:03] <chrisccoulson> G+, Y U USE SO MUCH MEMORY???? |
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[20:03] <chrisccoulson> :) |
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[20:04] <seb128> chrisccoulson, stop twitter, it's bad for you! ;-) |
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[20:04] <micahg> Firefox trunk with load on demand tabs seems to be sipping memory now :) |
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[20:04] <chrisccoulson> lol |
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[20:04] <chrisccoulson> seb128, i get all of my information from twitter now. even the news! |
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[20:04] <chrisccoulson> in fact, i actually do find things out on twitter before i see them anywhere else now |
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[20:04] <chrisccoulson> that's bad ;) |
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[20:05] <seb128> chrisccoulson, seeing the noise ration you must be spending a lot of time to get the infos you need ;-à |
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[20:05] <seb128> ;-) |
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[20:05] <chrisccoulson> lol |
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[20:05] <chrisccoulson> i don't post that much tbh |
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[20:05] <seb128> well posting is fine :p |
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[20:05] <seb128> it's dealing with the flood of infos which is not :p |
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[20:05] <seb128> chrisccoulson, are you one of those who have notify-osd always on screen with twitter infos? ;-) |
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[20:06] <seb128> like constant activities all day long? ;-) |
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[20:06] <chrisccoulson> seb128, no, i don't have gwibber set up at all |
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[20:06] <chrisccoulson> i find the desktop notifications really annoying ;) |
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[20:06] <chrisccoulson> for twitter, anyway |
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[20:06] <seb128> chrisccoulson, well it's a way to get the tweets on screen before going to a browser |
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[20:06] <seb128> chrisccoulson, but I guess a browser is your desktop anyway :p |
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[20:06] <chrisccoulson> having twitter open in my browser is much less distracting :) |
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[20:07] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hum, I need to bug something to get you to do desktop work again ;-) |
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[20:07] <seb128> you need to get you of your browser |
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[20:07] <chrisccoulson> lol |
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[20:07] <seb128> that would be good for you :p |
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[20:08] <seb128> get *out* |
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[20:08] <chrisccoulson> you just need to wait for DX to break something ;) |
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[20:08] <dobey> chrisccoulson: so give it 5 minutes? |
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[20:08] <chrisccoulson> :) |
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[20:08] <chrisccoulson> i didn't want to be the person who said that |
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[20:11] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson, you know you can change what notifications you get... like none at all or just for mentions and private |
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[20:11] <kenvandine> which is the default now |
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[20:11] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, ah, i might try that. i haven't used gwibber for quite a long time now |
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[20:11] <chrisccoulson> i should try it again :) |
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[20:11] <kenvandine> you should :) |
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[20:12] <dobey> just don't try to scroll |
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[20:12] <dobey> or well, you can try i guess |
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[20:12] <dobey> just won't go anywhere :) |
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[20:12] <kenvandine> dobey, that should be fixed with the gtk upload seb128 is doing |
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[20:13] <seb128> kenvandine, is doing -> did 3 hours ago |
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[20:13] <chrisccoulson> oh, i don't even have gwibber installed. i wonder when that disappeared |
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[20:13] <kenvandine> seb128, great :) |
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[20:16] <desrt> seb128: xsettings override branch just merged |
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[20:17] <seb128> desrt, waouh |
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[20:17] <seb128> desrt, I will look to it on monday for sure ;-) |
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[20:17] <desrt> ya. it's not super-high priority |
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[20:18] * desrt is more curious to see what with happen with the representative colours patch |
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[20:19] <seb128> desrt, btw I was close to consider adding gconf usage again today ;-) |
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[20:19] <desrt> why? |
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[20:20] <seb128> desrt, because of the gsettings schemas stuff making it so difficult to add an option key for a "gnome_me_harder" use |
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[20:20] <seb128> you always have to consider where to add the schemas to make sure it's there first |
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[20:20] <desrt> seb128: why don't we have a global schema for gnome-me-harder? |
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[20:20] <desrt> you could patch it into gsettings-desktop-schemas |
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[20:20] <seb128> or to add safegards around it |
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[20:20] <desrt> which the entire world already depends on |
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[20:20] <seb128> desrt, I did the gsettings-desktop-schemas thing at the end |
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[20:20] <desrt> great |
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[20:20] <desrt> btw: you can use dconf |
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[20:21] <desrt> if you don't want to write a schema |
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[20:21] <seb128> is there a C api? |
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[20:21] <desrt> yes |
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[20:21] <seb128> ok, I should look at that ;-) |
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[20:21] <desrt> don't you package this stuff? :) |
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[20:21] <seb128> I do, but I never saw anyone using the dconf C api in a software |
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[20:21] <desrt> vuntz uses it in gnome-panel |
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[20:21] <seb128> so I was not sure how supported it was :p |
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[20:21] <desrt> robert_ancell uses it in dconf-editor |
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[20:21] <desrt> uhm... that's all, i think :) |
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[20:22] <seb128> hehe |
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[20:22] <seb128> don't get me started on dconf-editor :p |
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[20:22] <seb128> I stopped used it |
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[20:22] <desrt> the great thing about dconf is that the #1 thing that people complain about is dconf-editor |
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[20:22] <desrt> and i can say "robert's fault!" |
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[20:22] <seb128> lol |
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[20:22] <seb128> well he blames it on you :p |
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[20:22] <seb128> you made it so it's very hard to write an editor |
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[20:23] <desrt> yes and no... |
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[20:23] <desrt> the general design makes it difficult |
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[20:23] <jalcine> lol |
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[20:23] <desrt> which is caused by gsetting's aim to be something more than just a replacement for gconf |
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[20:23] <desrt> ie: you use it unconditionally from your software and it acts as a frontend to the registry on windows, property lists on the mac and dconf on linux |
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[20:24] <desrt> so there's this split.... do we want an editor for gsettings (that would also work on windows...) |
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[20:24] <desrt> or one just for dconf? |
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[20:24] <desrt> robert does a reasonable job of standing on both sides of that line.... |
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[20:24] <desrt> but of course there are complications caused by that |
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[20:25] <seb128> desrt, my main complain with it is that it lies about key values |
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[20:25] <seb128> it ignores overrides |
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[20:25] <desrt> ya |
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[20:25] <seb128> which screwed me a few time in debugging |
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[20:25] <seb128> I stopped trusting it |
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[20:25] <desrt> it wouldn't be that hard for him to fix that..... |
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[20:25] <desrt> alas |
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[20:26] <seb128> it's like if you can trust a viewer to show the right value it's useless |
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[20:26] <stgraber> gsettings list-recursively does a reasonable job for debugging (I also gave up on dconf-editor a while ago) |
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[20:26] <seb128> can't |
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[20:26] <desrt> seb128: do you have any idea how notify-osd works? |
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[20:26] <johan> seb128: seems broadway/html5 isn't enabled in the latest gtk-3 packaged in precise, is there anything I can do to make that change go in? |
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[20:26] <desrt> stgraber: dconf dump as well |
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[20:26] <seb128> johan, hey, you already pinged me about that on #gnome-hackers ;-) |
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[20:27] <johan> seb128: yes, but that was before you uploaded the latest version :D |
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[20:27] <seb128> johan, it's not enabled upstream and mclasen nacked a fedora request to enable is saying it's experimental and shouldn't be enabled |
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[20:27] <seb128> johan, if it's too experimental for fedora it makes me wonder if I really want to enable it :p |
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[20:27] <johan> seb128: :( |
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[20:27] <desrt> ubuntu: always copying what fedora does :p |
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[20:27] <johan> to get it tested of course |
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[20:28] <johan> you do need to set an environment variable to enable it, so it's not for the light hearted |
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[20:28] <desrt> seb128: you could add yet another build variant of gtk :) |
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[20:28] <seb128> well, lts are not where you get stuff tested, it's where you get stuff solid ;-) |
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[20:28] <seb128> johan, I don't know enough about it, I wanted to check what it means for depends and build-depends |
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[20:28] <seb128> but maybe desrt knows? |
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[20:29] <seb128> desrt, does enabling a backend like that adds run time depends? |
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[20:29] * desrt knows nothing |
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[20:29] <desrt> seb128: yes. i'd imagine so. |
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[20:29] <desrt> seb128: the backends are not loaded as separate modules, if that's what you mean |
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[20:31] <seb128> desrt, yeah, so enabling them at build-time has an impact, it's not just adding a .so somewhere you can opt in |
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[20:31] <desrt> seb128: looks like a pretty minimal impact in terms of extra deps... |
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[20:31] <desrt> libz, basically |
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[20:31] <desrt> so mostly just increasing the code size, i guess |
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[20:32] <desrt> 6000 extra lines of C |
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[20:33] <desrt> it's my opinion that there's no obvious harm to turning it on... |
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[20:33] <desrt> that doesn't mean that there's no harm, of course :) |
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[20:34] <seb128> desrt, yeah, I will check with mclasen another day |
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[20:34] <seb128> johan, my gut feeling is that a ppa for that is good enough |
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[20:34] <seb128> it's clearly not something import as it in the lts |
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[20:34] <seb128> like no normal user need it |
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[20:34] <johan> seb128: yeah, I guess you're right |
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[20:36] <desrt> ugh |
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[20:36] <desrt> _get_unity_schema() |
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[20:36] <desrt> leaks... |
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[20:44] <dobey> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.31.20/./gobject/gsignal.c:2572: instance `0x91f1200' has no handler with id `3170' |
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[20:44] <dobey> hrmm; i am getting a *LOT* of those getting printed for various things |
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[20:45] <cyphermox> seb128: I'm not as certain that bluez 4.99 looks like bugfix :/ |
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[20:45] <seb128> cyphermox, ok, I didn't look, I just saw the summary and wanted us to have a look |
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[20:45] <cyphermox> I see a bunch of things that make me worry a bit about how much fun this risks being to re-test everything and behavior changes |
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[20:45] <cyphermox> ok |
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[20:45] <seb128> cyphermox, if you think we shouldn't update that's fine |
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[20:46] <cyphermox> though I noticed a few patches we might want to cherry-pick :) |
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[20:46] <seb128> dobey, update your libdbusmenu to 0.5.93-0ubuntu2 |
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[20:49] <Arlo> Hi everybody, long time listener, first time caller. I work for a VoIP startup that recently released a voip/chat/video chat tool for ubuntu 32/64. I am wondering what the process would be for us to get it into the ubuntu repo? |
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[20:49] <desrt> Arlo: is it free software? |
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[20:50] <Arlo> yes. http://www.icall.com/get |
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[20:50] <desrt> did you read http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/ ? |
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[20:51] <Arlo> apparently not, that answers all of my questions. thank you. |
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[20:51] <desrt> :) |
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[21:18] <desrt> seb128: got a working notify-osd patch for the new X property |
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[21:18] <seb128> desrt, nice! |
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[21:21] <dobey> why is the "File System" icon in my nautilus a paper icon, instead of a hard disk? |
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[21:27] <seb128> dobey, because you use a broken icon theme? |
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[21:27] <dobey> no |
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[21:27] <dobey> it's correct in the gtk file chooser |
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[21:28] <dobey> it's only broken in nautilus |
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[21:28] <dobey> and my windows partition has the right icon |
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[21:30] <dobey> and the larger icon onder computer:/// is also correct |
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[21:32] <seb128> dobey, ok, wfm |
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[21:33] <seb128> so dunno |
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[21:33] <dobey> hrmm |
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[21:34] <seb128> desrt, you probably need a configure.ac requirement update on gnome-desktop for _GNOME_BACKGROUND_REPRESENTATIVE_COLORS |
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[21:34] <seb128> desrt, or at least mention how it's defined and by what version in the merge request |
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[21:34] <desrt> seb128: the fallback case is just the same for if the unity schema was missing |
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[21:35] <dobey> i wonder how long it's been broken. i don't use nautilus much |
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[21:40] <seb128> ok, time to call it a week |
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[21:40] <seb128> good w.e everybody |
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[21:41] <dobey> cheers seb128 |
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