| [00:09] <Riddell> yay, I'm informative "Kubuntu and KDE (Score:5, Informative)" http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/03/01/2047217/ubuntu-1204-lts-precise-pangolin-beta-1-released | |
| [00:11] <Riddell> hmm, should I take the bait and reply? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2012-March/055692.html | |
| === vorian is now known as v | |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Thanks everyone for getting Beta1 tested! | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-announce | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) | |
| [00:52] <rbelem> Riddell, i got it working | |
| [00:52] <rbelem> Riddell, i forgot to install startactive-data and startactive-ksplash-theme | |
| [00:55] <rbelem> Riddell, and it is missing some runtime deps | |
| [00:57] <rbelem> Riddell, kde-workspace-bin installs kdm :-/ | |
| [01:06] <Riddell> rbelem: so you can log in from lightdm? | |
| [01:32] <rbelem> Riddell, yup, but it is failing to load some modules :-/ | |
| [01:33] <Riddell> rbelem: better than nothing, if you package it up tonight I can put it into the archive tomorrow and make some images | |
| [01:34] <rbelem> Riddell, here is the log http://paste.kde.org/432188/ | |
| [01:35] <Riddell> rbelem: that doesn't mean much to me, best ask notmart or the like in #active | |
| [01:38] <rbelem> Riddell, will do now | |
| [01:39] <rbelem> Riddell, he is not there :-/ | |
| [01:39] <Riddell> it is late in Europe | |
| [01:40] <rbelem> Riddell, hum... is it almost 2am for you? | |
| [01:40] <Riddell> yes, and +1 later on the continent | |
| [01:40] * Riddell snoozes | |
| [01:41] <rbelem> Riddell, :-) | |
| [01:41] <rbelem> Riddell, good night | |
| [01:44] <Riddell> http://lwn.net/Articles/484829/ Kubuntu 12.04 to be Supported for 5 Years | |
| [01:55] <darthanubis> Thank you!! | |
| [02:24] <rbelem> Riddell, i got everything working | |
| [02:25] <rbelem> Riddell, plasma-active pkg needs patching | |
| [09:39] <Riddell> random e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/432266/ | |
| [10:04] <rbelem> Riddell, i slept in the keyboard | |
| [10:06] <rbelem> Riddell, i will ping you when i finish the changes | |
| [10:11] <Riddell> rbelem: did you pull a rodrigo? :) | |
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | |
| [12:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all | |
| [12:37] <soee> hi BluesKaj | |
| [12:38] <BluesKaj> hi soee | |
| [12:39] <soee> ih made upgrade yesterday | |
| [12:39] <soee> 11.10 > 12.04b1 | |
| [12:39] <soee> works fine so far | |
| [12:41] <soee> waiting for kde 4.9 now -.- | |
| [12:42] <yofel> soee: happy waiting then :D http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Release_Schedule | |
| [12:42] * yofel wonders if dirk forgot about 4.8.1 | |
| [12:42] <soee> yeah i know :) | |
| [12:42] <soee> yofel, btw | |
| [12:44] <soee> you rememeber i couldnt upgrade yesterday? | |
| [12:45] <soee> so i found some file related update -manager where i had to change release type from lts to normal, than do-release-upgrade form console worked | |
| [12:50] <yofel> hm, makes sense, except that it shouldn't be set to lts if you were on 11.10 | |
| [12:50] <yofel> but this should've still worked | |
| [12:50] <yofel> I'll try to reproduce it, thanks | |
| [12:53] <Peace-> here it goes | |
| === greyback is now known as greyback|away | |
| [12:53] <Peace-> plasma-widget-daisy is working again here | |
| [12:54] <Peace-> just compiled :D | |
| [12:56] <yofel> Peace-: on precise? | |
| [12:57] <Peace-> yofel: sure | |
| [12:57] <yofel> or at least with 4.8? | |
| [12:57] <yofel> .D | |
| [12:57] <yofel> *:D | |
| [12:57] <Peace-> yep | |
| [12:57] <Peace-> i did a package deb with cpack as usual | |
| [12:57] <Peace-> xD | |
| [12:58] <Peace-> yofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/02/plasma-desktopWv1827.png | |
| [13:31] <soee> Peace-, you are from Poland ? | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | |
| [13:39] <Peace-> soee: nope | |
| [13:40] <Peace-> yofel: are you on precise? | |
| [13:40] <yofel> yes | |
| [13:40] <Peace-> yofel: 32bit? | |
| [13:41] <yofel> 64 right now, but my eeePC is 32 | |
| [13:41] <Peace-> mm :D https://peace-packages.googlecode.com/files/plasma-widget-daisy_0.0.5.deb | |
| === greyback|away is now known as greyback | |
| [13:45] <BluesKaj> odd , i have a usb stick that i'd like to reformat but the notifierand dolphin don't see it , altho it's listed with lsusb | |
| [13:45] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have seen that issue too | |
| [13:45] <Peace-> BluesKaj: partitioon manager can see it ? | |
| [13:48] <BluesKaj> Peace-, yes, partition manager sees it but it has no valis partition | |
| [13:48] <BluesKaj> valid | |
| [13:48] <Peace-> BluesKaj: mm :) so you need to format it | |
| [13:49] <BluesKaj> yup , what's best, fat32? | |
| [13:50] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i guess yes | |
| [13:50] <BluesKaj> going to put freeNAS on it | |
| [13:51] <BluesKaj> ok Peace- , done , thanks for the tip ..forgot about partition manager :) | |
| [13:52] <Peace-> :) | |
| [14:05] <yofel> soee: ok, that you couldn't update was a bug in software-properties-kde | |
| [14:06] <yofel> *upgrade | |
| [14:06] <soee> :??? | |
| [14:06] <soee> it took me whole night to update yesterday argh :D | |
| [14:07] <yofel> in software-properties-kde you can set if you want to be notified on new releases for: Never, Normal, LTS only | |
| [14:07] <yofel> some sofware-properties developer had the great idea to change the meaning order to: Normal, LTS only, Never | |
| [14:08] <yofel> so I you had set LTS in sofware-properties-kde, you had in fact set it to Never | |
| [14:08] * yofel goes fixing | |
| [14:15] <soee> oO | |
| [14:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hardy? Really? :D | |
| [14:26] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hmm? | |
| [14:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: the email paste :) | |
| [14:27] <Riddell> oh aye, I'll send my stock reply | |
| [14:28] <yofel> hm | |
| [14:28] <yofel> software-properties is odd | |
| [14:32] <Riddell> yofel: what's odd about it? | |
| [14:32] <yofel> it's python | |
| [14:32] <Riddell> it has the tricky job of making a sane UI out of the sources.list format which is not very user friendly | |
| [14:33] <yofel> well, *that* part isn't even broken | |
| [14:33] <Riddell> glatzor wrote it ages ago | |
| [14:35] <yofel> I'll hack this to work for now and talk with mvo later | |
| [14:36] <yofel> the gtk ui uses a dbus backend now. Using that would be the proper way to fix this | |
| [14:36] <Riddell> yofel: does this need a backport? | |
| [14:37] <yofel> it needs an SRU for oneiric, or you'll see more confused users like soee | |
| [14:37] <Riddell> poor soee | |
| [14:37] <soee> im not confused, im suprised! | |
| [14:37] <Riddell> we also needs a "ensure your system is up to date before starting a release upgrade" notice on the instructions | |
| [14:38] <soee> ill start to learn some new languages used in ubuntu/kde and ill fix this :D | |
| [14:39] <soee> atm im strict php, javascirpt user | |
| [14:39] <Riddell> python is easy to learn | |
| [14:39] <Riddell> and sane compared to javascript :) | |
| [14:40] <yofel> well, one way to fix it is to simply adjust the mapping: i = (i+1)%3 - which would have the least chances for regressions | |
| [14:41] <yofel> I'll file a bug and see what mvo says | |
| [14:43] <shadeslayer> Did someone say dbus | |
| [14:43] <shadeslayer> kill that stuff with fire | |
| [14:44] <shadeslayer> s/fire/napalm/ | |
| [14:44] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "kill that stuff with napalm" | |
| [14:45] <ScottK> Thanks to upstart we have dbus on servers now too. | |
| [14:45] <shadeslayer> ... | |
| [14:46] <yofel> hurray, now I can blame dbus if my system doesn't boot, not only if I can't log in | |
| [14:47] <rbelem> Riddell, :-D | |
| [14:47] <Riddell> rbelem: so you can log in from lightdm into active? | |
| [14:47] <rbelem> Riddell, yup | |
| [14:47] <Riddell> rbelem: lovely, what's the trick? | |
| [14:48] <rbelem> Riddell, some changes are needed in the plasma-active pkg, runtime deps, and in the startactive, patching and runtime deps | |
| [14:49] <Riddell> rbelem: well done on working it out, you going to put packages into ~kubuntu-active? | |
| [14:49] <rbelem> Riddell, yup | |
| [14:49] <rbelem> Riddell, in a couple minutes | |
| [14:49] * Riddell holds breath | |
| [14:49] * rbelem just arrived in indt office :-D | |
| [14:56] <ScottK> Is anyone there to make sure you don't pull a Rodrigo in the midst of all this? | |
| [14:57] <rbelem> ScottK, everybody went to a windows shit presentation :'( | |
| [14:57] <Riddell> it's brazil, there must be a samba band in the office next door or something to keep him awake | |
| [14:57] <rbelem> hahah :-D | |
| [14:59] <ScottK> fabo and debfx: Do we wan to make a change in our Qt (we multiarch and the -dev package)? | |
| [15:00] <Riddell> ScottK: I don't understand that question | |
| [15:00] <ScottK> Riddell: It's a carry over from #debian-qt-kde, sorry. | |
| [15:05] <txwikinger> hi folks | |
| [15:06] <Riddell> guten tag txwikinger | |
| [15:06] <txwikinger> Guten Tag Jonathan | |
| [15:10] <txwikinger> woot.. power outage | |
| [15:12] <shadeslayer> wait ... you have power outages? :O | |
| [15:13] <txwikinger> Normally not | |
| [15:13] <txwikinger> Yesterday they had a big power outage just north of here. 4 hours 70% of customers off the grid | |
| [15:14] <txwikinger> I guess they still repairing stuff and now ours is flaky too because of that | |
| [15:14] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: It's just that, power outages are unheard of in First/Second World Countries | |
| [15:14] <txwikinger> No they are not | |
| [15:14] <txwikinger> They have power outages all the time | |
| [15:15] <shadeslayer> txwikinger: this is the first time I've heard about a power outage on this IRC channel in the past 2-3 years :P | |
| [15:15] <txwikinger> Esecially in winter when ice and frozen rain cuts power lines | |
| [15:25] <debfx> ScottK: I don't know if there is a compelling use case for that | |
| [15:26] <ScottK> OK. | |
| [15:35] <rbelem> Riddell, startactive uploaded | |
| [15:39] <rbelem> Riddell, do you think put startactive as depends of plasma-active is ok? | |
| [15:44] <Riddell> rbelem: yes | |
| [16:07] <rbelem> Riddell, plasma-mobile uploaded | |
| [16:07] <rbelem> Riddell, could you upload kde-active-artwork? | |
| [16:07] <rbelem> :-) | |
| [16:08] <Riddell> rbelem: looking | |
| [16:08] <rbelem> Riddell, thanks :-) | |
| [16:09] <rbelem> Riddell, do you think kde-active-artwork should be a dependency for plasma-active pkg? | |
| [16:10] <rbelem> Riddell, without it shows lots of warnings | |
| [16:10] <Riddell> rbelem: yes sounds like it should be | |
| === aleix is now known as apol | |
| [16:10] <rbelem> Riddell, could you do that before upload them? :-) | |
| [16:11] <Riddell> sure | |
| [16:14] <rbelem> Riddell, how about the kubuntu-mobile-settings? Should we drop it or update and rename it? | |
| [16:17] <Riddell> rbelem: drop it | |
| [16:17] <Riddell> replace with kubuntu-active-default-settings | |
| [16:17] <rbelem> Riddell, oki :) | |
| [16:31] <rbelem> Riddell, kubuntu-active-default-settings uploaded | |
| [16:32] * rbelem goes to lunch | |
| [17:52] <rbelem> Riddell, are the pkgs ok? | |
| [17:53] <fabo> Riddell: how can I know which archive have been used to build ubuntu armhf images for beta1 ? or even build logs | |
| [17:55] <yofel> fabo: take for example qt: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11 | |
| [17:55] <yofel> click on the latest upload version | |
| [17:55] <yofel> on that page click on the architecture you want | |
| [17:55] <yofel> and there you'll find the build log for that arch | |
| [17:57] <fabo> argh doesn't help -> http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu/ | |
| [17:58] <fabo> I try to build my own image and it fails when I use ports.ubuntu.com | |
| [17:58] <fabo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/865467/ | |
| [17:59] <yofel> those are just gpg warnings... | |
| [18:02] <fabo> the build fails right after that | |
| [18:02] <yofel> ah, might be because apt exits non-zero on that I think | |
| [18:02] <yofel> fabo: if you're looking for the cd image logs, they're here: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ | |
| [18:03] <yofel> that's about what I know about image building | |
| === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY | |
| [21:04] <schnelle> yofel: new kmess is officially released :) | |
| [21:04] <yofel> schnelle: what was the issue again? | |
| [21:05] <schnelle> yofel: new kmess was tagged in git but we were waiting for official tarball | |
| [21:07] <schnelle> current kmess version in repositories doesn't work because changed something in their servers | |
| [21:07] <schnelle> libmsn was updated but kmess doesn't use libmsn | |
| [21:07] <yofel> schnelle: oneiric or precise? | |
| [21:07] <schnelle> so we need new kmees for precise | |
| [21:08] <yofel> schnelle: is it really broken in precise? | |
| [21:09] <yofel> I was just taking another look at the changelog for -2, and it might not be | |
| [21:11] <schnelle> yofel: I will test beta 1 later and will test kmess | |
| [21:11] <schnelle> yofel: i assumed if it is broken in oneiric then it is broken in precise too | |
| [21:11] <schnelle> because there weren't official kmess updates on their site till today | |
| [21:12] <yofel> well, I made a mistake last time and didn't properly read the changelog, but this is only in precise: | |
| [21:12] <yofel> * Add follow-location-redirects.diff, this makes KMess usable with the latest | |
| [21:12] <yofel> changes in MSN servers. (Closes: #648080) | |
| [21:14] <schnelle> yofel: well than kmess is fixed :) I will test it in precise and report back | |
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | |
| [22:21] <rbelem> Riddell, ping | |
| [22:21] <Riddell> hi rbelem, sorry I got distracted then went out | |
| [22:21] <Riddell> I'll do the active packages in a bit | |
| [22:23] <rbelem> Riddell, thanks :-) | |
| [22:56] <ScottK> !ninjas | 4.8.1 tarballs up. | |
| [22:56] <ubottu> 4.8.1 tarballs up.: Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel | |
| [22:56] <ScottK> ~ninjas | 4.8.1 tarballs up. | |
| [22:56] <ScottK> OK, got it right the first time. | |
| [22:57] <ScottK> Shall we use the .xz tarballs? | |
| [22:58] <Riddell> rbelem: well I got the ksplash showing with a few tweaks to the packages | |
| [22:58] <Riddell> but it doesn't run plasma-device after that | |
| [22:58] <Riddell> I'm afraid I need to go to sleep now | |
| [22:59] <rbelem> Riddell, could you upload your changes? | |
| [23:01] <Riddell> no I didn't package them but the xsession script isn't in the package | |
| [23:01] <Riddell> and /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ActiveAir/ needs some files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ActiveAir/images/ | |
| [23:01] <rbelem> Riddell, it is on the kubuntu-active-default-settings | |
| [23:02] <rbelem> Riddell, i fixed that in the kde-active-artwork that is in the ppa | |
| [23:03] <rbelem> Riddell, and i upstreamed the fix | |
| [23:05] <bulldog98> ScottK: sounds good | |
| [23:08] <yofel> \o/ | |
| [23:09] <yofel> ScottK: I'm all for xz as you know | |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | 4.8.1 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | Precise: Feature Freeze, time to squish beasties | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-kubuntu.html TODOs! | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-announce | Jussi's new baby's name is Elodi! :) | |
| [23:17] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 31 * debian/ (changelog rules) Bump for SC 4.8.1 | |
| [23:19] <bulldog98> yofel: no xz tars present in upstream location | |
| [23:19] <yofel> bulldog98: it's in xz/ subfolder, so your script doesn't work | |
| [23:20] <bulldog98> yofel: ok | |
| [23:20] <yofel> I fetched everything with: rsync -avh --progress --delete ftpubuntu@ftpmaster.kde.org:/home/ftpubuntu/stable/4.8.1/src/xz/ 4.8.1 | |
| [23:20] <yofel> (If you have the bandwidth) | |
| [23:20] <bulldog98> yofel: I have it by now :) | |
| [23:21] <bulldog98> yofel: only command left is the rename command | |
| [23:21] <yofel> klinksource works, just tested | |
| [23:22] <bulldog98> ok | |
| [23:24] <bulldog98> yofel: btw what’s our current workflow kgetsource, bzr builddeb -S, pbuilder? | |
| [23:24] <yofel> pretty much | |
| [23:24] <Riddell> rbelem: I still get stuck at http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/startactive-test.log | |
| [23:25] <rbelem> Riddell, but the splash worked with kde-active-artwork ppa pkg? | |
| [23:26] <bulldog98> yofel: what to do if symbols mismatch or something else? | |
| [23:26] <bulldog98> not that they do in the current build | |
| [23:27] <Riddell> rbelem: yes | |
| [23:27] <yofel> for new ones just add them, for missing ones check if they're public and if yes troll upstream and use the debianabimanager to manually bump the SONAME | |
| [23:27] <Riddell> rbelem: but plasma-device does not run | |
| [23:28] <rbelem> Riddell, try remove the /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/setup-contour-intro.module | |
| [23:30] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 94 * debian/changelog New upstream release | |
| [23:31] <Riddell> rbelem: yay it sort of works! | |
| [23:31] <Riddell> plasma-desktop gets run as well as plasma-device | |
| [23:32] <rbelem> Riddell, try remove the /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/desktop.module | |
| [23:32] <rbelem> Riddell, try remove the /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/plasma-desktop.module | |
| [23:32] <rbelem> :-D | |
| [23:32] <Riddell> rbelem: No such file or directory | |
| [23:32] <rbelem> Riddell, for both? | |
| [23:32] <Riddell> /usr/share/kde4/apps/startactive/modules/plasma-desktop.module: No such file or directory | |
| [23:33] <rbelem> Riddell, hum... i think we still need the desktop files that overrides the default for plasma-desktop | |
| [23:35] <rbelem> Riddell, sudo chmod -x /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop | |
| [23:35] <rbelem> Riddell, just to test :-) | |
| [23:36] <Riddell> rbelem: that file isn't +x | |
| [23:37] <Riddell> .desktop files aren't executable | |
| [23:37] <rbelem> Riddell, oops | |
| [23:37] <bulldog98> yofel: how do you do the l10n stuff? | |
| [23:37] <rbelem> Riddell, i mean -r | |
| [23:37] <yofel> bulldog98: last, using the script from the l10n branch | |
| [23:37] <bulldog98> yofel: will it work right now? | |
| [23:38] <yofel> no idea, with the xz tars probably not | |
| [23:38] <yofel> we can figure that out once the rest is done | |
| [23:38] <Riddell> rbelem: yay, working | |
| [23:38] <Riddell> rbelem: but no mouse cursor. theme missing? | |
| [23:38] <rbelem> Riddell, that is expected | |
| [23:39] <rbelem> Riddell, because it is meant for tablets | |
| [23:39] <Riddell> oh I see :) | |
| [23:39] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog New upstream release | |
| [23:39] <rbelem> Riddell, but we can disable it | |
| [23:39] <Riddell> probably we should disable it until someone gets a tablet to use :) | |
| [23:40] <rbelem> Riddell, oki :-) | |
| [23:40] <bulldog98> yofel: we should upload a new version of kubuntu-dev-tools to somewhere | |
| [23:41] <rbelem> Riddell, my laptop will shutdown | |
| [23:41] <rbelem> Riddell, could you apply these changes? | |
| [23:41] <yofel> bulldog98: iirc debfx had something against uploading it to the archive. But I don't remember what the issue was | |
| [23:42] <yofel> put it in ninjas if you want | |
| [23:42] <rbelem> Riddell, i can update the kubuntu-active-default-settings | |
| [23:44] <CIA-42> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 148 * debian/changelog Did an update of the changelog | |
| [23:45] <Riddell> rbelem: ok so I'll upload these (but not tonight, prob tomorrow evening) | |
| [23:46] <Riddell> we need to work out what is dragging plasma-desktop onto the kubuntu-active CD image | |
| [23:46] <Riddell> and we're good to go | |
| [23:46] <Riddell> I got my arm board working today too, but only for oneiric not precise yet | |
| [23:46] <yofel> bulldog98: please put the changelog contents in the commit message, or describe the change you did - your message doesn't tell much.. | |
| [23:47] <bulldog98> yofel: only change the version and put my name into the comment line | |
| [23:48] <yofel> well, "bump version for precise" would've told me that | |
| [23:48] <bulldog98> yofel: I try to keep that in mind | |
| [23:49] <yofel> thanks, takes practice :) | |
| [23:50] <bulldog98> yofel: we don’t have something like an l10n script in kubuntu-dev-tools | |
| [23:50] <bulldog98> afaiks | |
| [23:50] <yofel> bulldog98: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide | |
| [23:50] <yofel> we do l10n last anyway | |
| [23:51] <yofel> l10n is tricky | |
| [23:51] <bulldog98> I don’t have upload rights either | |