| === kloeri_ is now known as kloeri | |
| [03:08] <technoviking> jcastro: I pinged on the RT? Have a meeting and one class tomorrow, but free other than that | |
| [07:18] <czajkowski> aloha | |
| [07:33] <bkerensa> good evening | |
| [07:40] <jono> night all! | |
| [07:40] <jussi> o/ | |
| [07:56] <bkerensa> so sad Apache 2.4 won't be in 12.04 | |
| [07:56] <bkerensa> :P | |
| [07:57] <jussi> bkerensa: stop trolling :P :P :P | |
| [07:57] * jussi hugs bkerensa | |
| [07:58] <bkerensa> jussi: Its ok I will make a PPA | |
| [07:58] <bkerensa> :D | |
| [07:59] <jussi> hehe | |
| [08:10] <dholbach> good morning | |
| [08:10] <jussi> morning dholbach | |
| [08:11] <dholbach> hey jussi | |
| [09:23] <dholbach> in the apartment next door I think they are breaking down walls, burning down the wallpapers, slaughtering virgins and building bombs | |
| [09:24] <dholbach> I think I'll go and work from somewhere else in a bit | |
| [09:26] <bkerensa> dholbach: Heh... There are solutions for such issues :) | |
| [09:26] <bkerensa> Very loud speakers... a nice subwoofer and amp | |
| [09:26] <bkerensa> :D | |
| [09:27] <dholbach> no, I think I'm going to take the dog for a walk and pay my friends a visit in the old office where I used to work before :) | |
| [09:30] <bkerensa> dholbach: Good Stuff :) | |
| [10:01] <dholbach> alright, packing my stuff - see you in a bit :) | |
| [11:15] <s-fox> Hello. | |
| [11:18] <bkerensa> dholbach: You back around? | |
| [11:18] <dholbach> bkerensa, yes | |
| [11:18] <dholbach> oh, thanks for the mail you sent | |
| [11:18] <bkerensa> dholbach: Do you know why Unity3D would suddenly stop working but Unity2D is fine? | |
| [11:19] <bkerensa> :D | |
| [11:19] <dholbach> no idea | |
| [11:19] <bkerensa> hmm | |
| [11:19] <dholbach> anything interesting in ~/.xsession-errors or /var/log/Xorg/*.log? | |
| [11:19] <dholbach> if you find anything in there you could ask in #ubuntu-desktop | |
| [11:20] <mainerror> Is there an Ubuntu Android thingy channel? | |
| [11:21] <jussi> mainerror: I guess you could try #ubuntu-phone, but other than that no idea | |
| [11:22] <mainerror> Thanks. :) | |
| [11:22] <czajkowski> adding the ppa recommend in this bug has stopped compiz crashing | |
| [11:22] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/926379 | |
| [11:22] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 926379 in unity "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in intel_miptree_release()" [High,Confirmed] | |
| [11:23] <bkerensa> dholbach: Nothing tasty in either... Unity3D just wont load at all when I login through the Ubuntu profile but Unity 2D works fine... Hmmm | |
| [11:23] <dholbach> best ask in #ubuntu-desktop | |
| [12:33] <daker> i can't sign the agreement https://forms.canonical.com/contributor/ :/ | |
| [12:42] <cprofitt> daker: meaning the form does not work... or you are unwilling? | |
| [12:52] <mhall119> good morning | |
| [13:14] <bkerensa> I am 100% under the belief now that ranting at businesses over twitter provides immediate results | |
| [13:14] <bkerensa> :D | |
| [13:14] <bkerensa> I couldn't get my power bill after 3 days of calling and one simple tweet got it sorted :D | |
| [13:18] <sense_> Yay for public accountability! | |
| [13:22] <cprofitt> bkerensa: woah | |
| [13:22] <cprofitt> that is impressive | |
| [13:30] <mhall119> bkerensa: my wife has started doing that with our cable company | |
| [13:30] <mhall119> their DVRs have formed a habit of dying after 2 or 3 months | |
| [13:30] <mhall119> it used to be she sat on hold for hours with tech support, now she just tweets about it and we have a replacement on the way | |
| [13:31] <bkerensa> mhall119: Heh comcast? | |
| [13:31] <bkerensa> :D | |
| [13:31] <mhall119> bkerensa: Brighthouse | |
| [13:31] <bkerensa> Ahh | |
| [13:31] <bkerensa> Yeah well... I have used Twitter to get fast results for a number of things | |
| [13:32] <bkerensa> It was still frustrating dealing with this power company because I just wanted to give them money and they wouldnt tell me how much :D | |
| [13:48] <jcastro> snap-l: heya | |
| [13:48] <jcastro> wanna do that interview today? | |
| [13:50] <mhall119> bkerensa: it's absurd when companies make it difficult for you to give them your money | |
| [13:50] <bkerensa> mhall119: ikr | |
| [13:50] <bkerensa> :D | |
| [13:51] <bkerensa> mhall119: I guess the good news is that my bill was $162 less then the people who previously lived here | |
| [13:51] <bkerensa> :D | |
| [13:51] <snap-l> jcastro: What time would you like to do the interview? | |
| [13:51] <jcastro> what's good for you? | |
| [13:52] <snap-l> Around noon? | |
| [13:52] <jcastro> perfect. | |
| [13:52] <jcastro> phone? | |
| [13:52] <snap-l> Phone, skype, whatever. | |
| [13:52] * jcastro will figure out how to record | |
| [13:52] <snap-l> I have Skype Call Recorder | |
| [13:52] <jcastro> oh perfect | |
| [13:52] <jcastro> my wife has that but it's on her laptop and not here | |
| [13:53] <jcastro> so if you could record it that would be <3 so I can transcribe it | |
| [13:53] <snap-l> Sure thing | |
| [13:53] <jcastro> it shouldn't take us more than 10minutes | |
| [13:53] <snap-l> On my calendar. | |
| [14:00] <jcastro> dholbach: dpm: balloons: mhall119: remember guys to ask if today's thing is in IRC or G+ | |
| [14:00] <dpm> jcastro, of course | |
| [14:00] <jcastro> hey dpm | |
| [14:00] <dpm> what!!? Are we having a meeting? | |
| [14:00] <jcastro> so I want to have a charm contest, and I stole your app contest application thing | |
| [14:01] <dpm> jcastro, no worries, I hope it's useful | |
| [14:01] <jcastro> should I have a clause for employees? | |
| [14:01] <jcastro> like, if someone got paid to do a charm and does one on their own time, that's good I guess. | |
| [14:01] <jcastro> but it still feels kind of unfair | |
| [14:01] <mhall119> jcastro: it's G+ as far as I know | |
| [14:01] <jcastro> mhall119: I know it's G+, I am saying, as soon as bacon joins | |
| [14:02] <dpm> jcastro, good point. I'm jumping into a call, so I cannot discuss it right now, but yeah, that's something to bear in mind | |
| [14:02] <jcastro> k | |
| [14:22] <jcastro> mhall119: hah this guy on omg is awesome | |
| [14:22] <jcastro> lenses are worthless, what we need is a new icon theme! | |
| [14:23] <jcastro> mhall119: for the recipes | |
| [14:23] <mhall119> jcastro: haters gotta hate | |
| [14:23] <mhall119> jcastro: that's a nice lens though isn't it? | |
| [14:23] <jcastro> an interesting use case would be search for "arroz con pollo" | |
| [14:23] <jcastro> get the recipe | |
| [14:23] <mhall119> I especially like how it has time and difficulty in the description | |
| [14:23] <jcastro> then use the askubuntu lens to search cooking.stackexchange while you are making it | |
| [14:23] <jcastro> sort of like, a multistep workflow | |
| [14:24] <mhall119> hmmm, the dash isn't so great at that | |
| [14:24] <jcastro> well, your recipe would be open in the browser already | |
| [14:24] <jcastro> so it's like, open, search, close | |
| [14:24] <jcastro> read for a while | |
| [14:24] <jcastro> open, search, close again | |
| [14:25] <mhall119> evidently the recipe website actually made some changes on their end for this lens' author | |
| [14:25] <mhall119> which I thought was pretty cool | |
| [14:25] <jcastro> wow, that's great | |
| [14:26] <mhall119> sweet! Someone's already contributed a quicklist for totem | |
| [14:28] <jcastro> I saw | |
| [14:29] <jcastro> I had James Gifford do a partial collection back in the day | |
| [14:29] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesgifford/unity-quicklist-examples/trunk | |
| [14:29] <jcastro> that might be worth investigating ^ | |
| [14:32] <mhall119> dholbach: ping | |
| [14:32] <dholbach> mhall119, pong | |
| [14:33] <mhall119> dholbach: I was warned yesterday that when people follow my blog and submit merge proposals with just their changes, that sponsors may ask them to use quilt to make deb patches | |
| [14:33] <mhall119> I have no idea how that stuff works, so would you be able to help shephard contributors through that process? | |
| [14:34] <mhall119> this Nekhelesh guy is kicking quicklist butt! | |
| [14:34] <dholbach> sponsors will usually tell them what to do - I'd suggest to recommend http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/udd-patchsys.html#edit-patch | |
| [14:35] <mhall119> dholbach: I tried to follow that, and must have done something wrong because it didn't seem to work right... | |
| [14:35] <dholbach> ok - do you have the example still at hand? | |
| [14:35] <dholbach> I mean - sure, I can answer questions, but it might be better to improve the docs so people know what to do - I don't scale very well :) | |
| [14:35] <mhall119> maybe it's because it was 10pm, I'll try again with more coffee and fresher eyes | |
| [14:35] <dholbach> sure, let me know how it goes | |
| [14:35] <mhall119> ok | |
| [14:44] <jcastro> mhall119: can we G+ for a few minutes before the team chat? | |
| [14:45] <mhall119> jcastro: give me 15 minutes? | |
| [14:46] <jcastro> sure | |
| [15:01] <dholbach> how could we name a weekly Friday event where folks can come ask development questions and where we fix bugs together? | |
| [15:01] <dholbach> Friday Bug-Fixing Drive? Anything more exciting and interesting? :) | |
| [15:05] <jcastro> Fixit Fridays | |
| [15:05] <dholbach> mhall119, if you want a quick run through how I'd go about fixing/changing geany, I can let you know | |
| [15:06] <dholbach> nice | |
| [15:06] <dholbach> I like Fixit Friday | |
| [15:08] <mhall119> jcastro: ready when you are | |
| [15:08] <mhall119> dholbach: I'd like that, I want to add more to the quicklist, but it'll take code changes | |
| [15:08] <mhall119> +1 on Fixit Friday | |
| [15:09] <dholbach> mhall119, I'll have a look at it | |
| [15:10] <jcastro> mhall119: ok firing it up! | |
| [15:15] <dholbach> mhall119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/852781/ - sorry, there's a bit of German in there :) | |
| [15:16] <dholbach> mhall119, the good thing about edit-patch is that it fires up 'dch' for you as well, so you get a nice changelog entry | |
| [16:00] <jono> dholbach, dpm, jcastro, balloons, mhall119 going to be a few mins late, feel free to start hanging out and just invite me | |
| [16:00] <dpm> jono, not sure about inviting you, but we'll start the hangout ;) | |
| [16:00] <jcastro> hey are we on IRC or g+? | |
| [16:01] <dholbach> jcastro, yeah, good question | |
| [16:02] <jcastro> ok who is making the hang out | |
| [16:02] <dpm> done | |
| [16:02] <dpm> sent invite | |
| [16:04] <dholbach> dpm, I guess you didn't only forget Jono but me as well? :-P | |
| [16:04] <dholbach> ah no, it's just slow | |
| [16:06] <balloons> hey.. filing some unity bugs atm.. I'll join your hngout dpm | |
| [16:07] <dpm> balloons, no worries, just "hanging out" right now really | |
| [17:01] <jono> all set? | |
| [17:01] <jono> dholbach, | |
| [17:01] <dholbach> yep | |
| [17:02] <snap-l> jcastro: ping | |
| [17:02] <jcastro> snap-l: let's do dis | |
| [17:02] <jcastro> skype? | |
| [17:02] <snap-l> si | |
| [17:20] <jono> balloons, so did didrocks say grabbing the names from the test results is doable, so we can generate the web page? | |
| [17:21] <balloons> jono, I didn't mention specifics to him.. just made sure he could help get the data out of launchpad | |
| [17:21] <balloons> he said yes | |
| [17:21] <jcastro> <--- lunch! bbi 20. | |
| [17:21] <jono> balloons, ok, I think you might want to drive down to some specifics so we can plan the work out this week | |
| [17:22] <jono> balloons, in the meantime can you start pulling together all the tests into a checkbox | |
| [17:23] <balloons> yes, I am going to chat with kate about how to get it on the iso | |
| [17:23] <balloons> that will move forward with the plan of how we're going to package the tests | |
| [17:24] <balloons> i'll be chatting with the checkbox guys on that as well I'd imagine | |
| [17:27] <jono> balloons, cool, could you flesh out the work items needed to deliver this in a Google Doc | |
| [17:27] <jono> then we can make sure out the work is assigned to people | |
| [17:27] <jono> as we are on a tight deadline | |
| [17:27] <balloons> yes, I will do that after my talk with kate and have you take a look | |
| [17:27] <jono> the good thing is that we laying down the foundations for beta2 testing too | |
| [17:27] <jono> thanks balloons! :-) | |
| [17:27] <jono> this is going to be ROCKING | |
| [17:27] <balloons> make sure i'm not missing anything and get help on who to grab for the work :-) | |
| [17:27] <jono> dpm, all set? | |
| [17:28] <jono> balloons, indeed :-) | |
| [17:28] <dpm> jono, yep! | |
| [17:30] <dholbach> jcastro, are you sure https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagementRC6 is enabled by default? | |
| [17:30] <dholbach> or do I need to enable it manually still? | |
| [17:33] <dholbach> ok, it actually might be | |
| [17:34] <balloons> dholbach, should be on by default afaik | |
| [17:34] <dholbach> cool :) | |
| [17:35] <dholbach> alrightie - I think I'm going to call it a day now and chat a bit with my old office mates | |
| [17:35] <balloons> powertop show any difference in wattage? | |
| [17:35] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow | |
| [17:35] <balloons> bye dholbach .. enjoy! | |
| [17:35] <dholbach> balloons, no scientific tests, but since I rebooted it looks a lot better | |
| [17:35] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow :) | |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | |
| [18:38] <jcastro> mhall119: heya | |
| [18:38] <mhall119> jcastro: heyo | |
| [18:38] <jcastro> probably a good round 2 or three | |
| [18:38] <mhall119> huh? | |
| [18:39] <jcastro> but if this goes awesome we could probably use a round for these guys: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11705677&postcount=16 | |
| [18:39] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available | |
| [18:39] <jcastro> oops sorry, mispaste | |
| [18:39] <jcastro> basically like the quicklists, but for indicators, though these will be more complicated | |
| [18:39] <jcastro> it'd be cool to get those guys maybe submitting the indicators to USC? | |
| [18:40] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, a but a good topic still, I'll write it up | |
| [18:40] <jcastro> anyway since you blogged a big list I remembered this other list, heh | |
| [18:40] <jcastro> though the barrier will be higher | |
| [18:40] <jcastro> I wonder how many of these we can just ping the author "yo, here's developer.ubuntu.com, go get some." | |
| [18:41] <mhall119> jcastro: I may blog the list, then ping the developer | |
| [18:41] <mhall119> or the other way around... | |
| [18:41] <jcastro> If I see Cas around I'll ping him | |
| [18:41] <jcastro> he maintains the list, I wonder if he'd be willing to weed out the junky ones that don't work, etc. | |
| [19:02] <davidcalle> jcastro, ping | |
| [19:02] <jcastro> pong! | |
| [19:02] <jcastro> hi dude! | |
| [19:02] <davidcalle> hi! | |
| [19:03] <davidcalle> jcastro, as an upstream, I need to have access to private bugs filed on my package and hggdh told me to ping you about it. | |
| [19:04] <jcastro> I can put you in bug control | |
| [19:04] <jcastro> what's your lpid? | |
| [19:04] <davidcalle> davidc3 | |
| [19:04] <jcastro> done! | |
| [19:04] <davidcalle> Thanks Jorge! :) | |
| [19:04] <hggdh> davidcalle: welcome to Bug Control! :-) | |
| [19:04] * jcastro does the "great power, great responsibility" speech | |
| [19:05] <s9iper1> :) | |
| [19:05] * hggdh endorses the speech | |
| [19:05] <jcastro> hggdh: hey so, this is mhall119's domain now, can you add him as admin and I can show him how to do it? | |
| [19:05] * davidcalle is impressed by the speech. | |
| [19:05] <hggdh> jcastro: certainly | |
| [19:05] <jcastro> davidcalle: I trust you already to not go triaging libc6 bugs or something. :) | |
| [19:06] <davidcalle> jcastro, evertyhing on Launchpad for more than two months should be marked as Fix Released, right? | |
| [19:07] <jcastro> if only. :) | |
| [19:08] <davidcalle> Hehe :) | |
| [19:09] <hggdh> mhall119: you are now an admin on Bug Control. I repeat, in full, all of jcastro's speech on "Great Power, etc, etc" | |
| [19:10] <jcastro> mhall119: I'll just chat with you on G+ on what that means, it's like, once a month you need to do it | |
| [19:11] <hggdh> jcastro: so I understand that in the future we will bother mhall119, not you, re. upstreamers. Also, could you please update the wiki? | |
| [19:11] <jcastro> yeah, the only reason I haven't is it hasn't come up yet, I'll update the wiki as soon as I explain to him what to do | |
| [19:12] <hggdh> roj, thank you, dear sir | |
| [19:17] <jono> jcastro, would you mind testing the accomp stuff? | |
| [19:17] <jono> want to see if it works for you on Precise | |
| [19:19] <jono> if anyone else on Precise wants to test Ubuntu Accomplishments, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Installing | |
| [19:21] <jcastro> jono: I have to close off this legal stuff with amanda before she EODs | |
| [19:21] <jcastro> jono: 30 min ok? | |
| [19:21] <jcastro> she's almost done | |
| [19:21] <jono> np | |
| [19:22] <jcastro> this isn't so bad, it's just adding a bunch of lawyer stuff to the rules | |
| [19:22] <jcastro> "oh and if this charm makes your computer explode you won't sue Canonical Ltd." | |
| [19:23] <mhall119> hggdh: did you just give me spidey-powers? | |
| [19:26] <hggdh> mhall119: the power to control bugcontrol... | |
| [19:26] <hggdh> so not really spidey-powers, but near | |
| [19:27] <mhall119> hggdh: so I can't cling to the walls of buildings? | |
| [19:27] <hggdh> mhall119: well, you can try :-) | |
| [19:28] * hggdh is not responsible for any (un)expected results | |
| [19:28] <hggdh> but I will sit down, with popcorn, and watch | |
| [19:31] <s9iper1> :) | |
| [19:34] <jono> brb rebooting | |
| [19:53] <czajkowski> what is the command to uninstall a ppa ? | |
| [19:54] <jono> ppa-purge | |
| [19:55] <jono> czajkowski, http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/ | |
| [19:55] <czajkowski> jono: thanks | |
| [19:55] <jono> np | |
| [19:55] <jono> lunch, brb | |
| [19:58] <MrChrisDruif> jono; ppa-purge? | |
| [19:58] <czajkowski> so need sleep :/ | |
| [19:58] <MrChrisDruif> I'd say "add-apt-repository -r" | |
| [20:07] <mhall119> ppa-purge will uninstall any packages you installed from the ppa, or revert any packages that were upgraded from it | |
| [20:12] <jcastro> ppa purge can be wonky too | |
| [20:12] <jcastro> sometimes it messed up | |
| [20:13] <jcastro> snap-l: can you PM me that dropbox URL with the audio? | |
| [20:13] <jcastro> I had it in my copy paste buffer, which in linux is like, russian roulette | |
| [20:14] <snap-l> hah | |
| [20:16] <jono> balloons, doc looks good | |
| [20:16] <jono> now break down the steps into work items with assignmentsa | |
| [20:16] <jono> and then we can put deadlines on the work items | |
| [20:16] <jono> and everything should fall in place | |
| [20:16] <balloons> yes.. talking with kate again | |
| [20:17] <jono> cool | |
| [20:24] <jcastro> jono: ok so after I add my lp address | |
| [20:24] <jcastro> it should figure out my stuff, and then award me some trophies right away right? | |
| [20:25] <jono> jcastro, yep | |
| [20:25] <jcastro> I like how the trophies have project logos on them | |
| [20:25] <jcastro> that will enable other projects to just dive in | |
| [20:25] <jcastro> zeitgeist, etc. | |
| [20:25] <jcastro> ok it appears to be running and then I got an U1 thing that it is syncing | |
| [20:26] <jono> ok maybe my server is not syncing, let me check | |
| [20:26] <jcastro> hah cute, the U1 notification basically lets me cheat, it tells me "fridge-editor.trophy" is being uploaded before the trophy app itself tells me | |
| [20:27] <jono> jcastro, yeah, I want to surpress them | |
| [20:27] <jono> I have a bug open about it | |
| [20:27] <jono> ok keep it open jcastro | |
| [20:27] <jono> looks like U1 is slow on the server | |
| [20:27] <jcastro> ok so my trophies are all correct and were awarded correctly in my .local/share/accomplishments/trophies | |
| [20:27] <jcastro> the gui just hasn't caught up yet | |
| [20:27] <jono> they are not awarded yet | |
| [20:27] <jono> they havent been validated | |
| [20:28] <jcastro> oh ok | |
| [20:28] <jcastro> so that's like "things we think jorge has earned, let me go check."? | |
| [20:28] <jono> hang fire | |
| [20:28] * jcastro nods | |
| [20:29] <jcastro> hmm, we need trophy titles, that's what makes them so funny on the xbox | |
| [20:29] <jono> aha | |
| [20:29] <jono> U1 woke up :-) | |
| [20:30] <jono> hang fire for a sec jcastro | |
| [20:30] <jono> you should see your trophies coming | |
| [20:30] <jcastro> hah, I went to the bathroom | |
| [20:30] <jcastro> and blam, they started coming in | |
| [20:30] <jono> :-) | |
| [20:30] <jcastro> I got my 3! | |
| [20:30] <jono> which ones? | |
| [20:30] <jcastro> the ones I am supposed to have, member, fridge editor, launchpad | |
| [20:30] <jono> cool | |
| [20:31] <jono> well some others are unlocked now | |
| [20:31] <jcastro> which is a funny one, since you need to be registered on launchpad to use the thing | |
| [20:31] <jcastro> I guess that's the freebie | |
| [20:31] <jono> so on the next check you should get the filed bug one | |
| [20:31] <jcastro> I see it | |
| [20:31] <jcastro> ok so it should sync again | |
| [20:31] <jono> it checks every two mins | |
| [20:31] <jcastro> and then realize I've done that, and I should get it in 2 minutes | |
| [20:31] <jono> give it another min or so | |
| [20:31] * jcastro nods | |
| [20:31] <jcastro> hah, freaking cool man | |
| [20:31] <jono> :-) | |
| [20:32] <jono> now all I need you to do is learn launchpadlib and contribute some accomplishments :-) | |
| [20:32] <mhall119> there be dragons | |
| [20:33] <jcastro> jono: and there it is, nice! | |
| [20:33] <jono> :-) | |
| [20:33] <mhall119> actually there be lazr.restful, which is worse than dragons | |
| [20:33] <jcastro> we just need to fix these example ones to not be so spammy | |
| [20:33] <jcastro> "filed first bug" is just asking for trouble | |
| [20:33] <jono> possibly | |
| [20:34] <jcastro> I think just narrowing it down would be useful | |
| [20:34] <mhall119> we need a way to revoke trophies "Filed a useless bug, we're not going to move the window controls" | |
| [20:34] <jono> lol | |
| [20:34] <jcastro> "submitted first bug crash" would be more useful because the person would be submitting something useful | |
| [20:34] <mhall119> or maybe just auto-award troll-phies | |
| [20:35] <jcastro> the one I want to see | |
| [20:35] <jono> jcastro, did you get the Juju one? | |
| [20:35] <jcastro> is "sabdfl'ed: One of your bug reports has been marked Opinion by Mark Shuttleworth". | |
| [20:35] <jcastro> jono: my charm isn't official yet so I should not have gotten it (and I didn't) | |
| [20:36] <jono> jcastro, cool | |
| [20:36] <jcastro> theoretically I should receive it as soon as the upstream releases what I need to make it into the store" | |
| [20:36] <jono> it checks if you are in the team | |
| [20:36] <jono> jcastro, well not really | |
| [20:36] <jono> it checks for team membership | |
| [20:36] <jono> we another another accomp if it is in the store | |
| [20:36] <jono> jcastro, so wanna write some? | |
| [20:36] <jono> :-) | |
| [20:36] <jcastro> hmmm, ok I think I found a bug | |
| [20:37] <jcastro> I am in the team | |
| [20:37] <jono> which team? | |
| [20:37] <jcastro> ~charm-contributors | |
| [20:37] <jono> right | |
| [20:37] <jono> no trophy yet? | |
| [20:37] <jcastro> nope | |
| [20:37] <jono> it just hasnt synced down yet | |
| [20:37] <jono> I see the trophy was created and signed | |
| [20:38] <jono> for both -contributor and -reviewer | |
| [20:38] <jcastro> shouldn't it have synced down with the 2nd time it synced? | |
| [20:38] <jono> yeah, but U1 may be being a little slow | |
| [20:38] <jono> I see it in the share, so it should sync soon | |
| [20:38] <jcastro> ah ok | |
| [20:38] <jcastro> I don't think being realtime is important anyway | |
| [20:38] <mhall119> I don't understand why it would be slow, running on that big iron | |
| [20:38] <jono> indeed | |
| [20:38] <jono> particularly as it happens in the background | |
| [20:38] <jcastro> actually, you might want to artifically make it so you can't get like 3 of them at once | |
| [20:39] <jcastro> like on the xbox it spaces them out even if you win them at once | |
| [20:39] <jcastro> that way it's not like "OH I AM AWESOME" one minute, and then you spend 3 weeks with nothing. | |
| [20:39] <jono> jcastro, maybe | |
| [20:40] <jono> I think people just need to deal with their insecurities instead | |
| [20:40] <jono> lol | |
| [20:40] <jcastro> heh | |
| [20:40] <jono> but good idea | |
| [20:40] <jono> there are tonnes of refinements we can make to it | |
| [20:40] <jcastro> these are totally killer for the human mind | |
| [20:40] <jcastro> I used to rent games | |
| [20:40] <jono> jcastro, glad it works for you | |
| [20:40] <jcastro> play them just for accomplishments | |
| [20:40] <jcastro> and then return it | |
| [20:40] <jcastro> I wouldn't even bother to finish the game | |
| [20:40] <jono> lol | |
| [20:40] <jcastro> I just wanted the trophies | |
| [20:40] <jono> this is why the choice of accomplishments needs to be carefully considere | |
| [20:41] * jcastro nods | |
| [20:41] <jono> I want to reduce people gaming thew system | |
| [20:41] <jcastro> well, people will game it, I think the trick is, to make it so that even if people game it they end up doing something that is useful to the project. | |
| [20:41] <jcastro> let's say I game "reported a crasher". It's still a useful dump. | |
| [20:41] <jono> indeed | |
| [20:41] <jono> and it is all about new experiences | |
| [20:41] <jono> not traffic | |
| [20:41] * jcastro nods | |
| [20:41] <jono> 50 bug comments = not useful | |
| [20:42] <jono> first bug report = useful | |
| [20:42] <jono> as they actually filed a bug | |
| [20:42] <jono> and now know how to do it | |
| [20:42] <jcastro> I would say first confirmed bug, but I am just bikeshedding | |
| [20:43] <jcastro> jono: fyi when you click on a trophy the highlight is orange and the trophy is orange, so it gets all invisible | |
| [20:43] <jono> I see how you carefully avoided my questions about if you will write some Juju accomplishments ;-) | |
| [20:43] <jono> jcastro, yup, I saw that | |
| [20:43] <jono> I will file a bug | |
| [20:43] <jcastro> I will certainly improve my descriptions now that I realize you asked for one thing and not the other | |
| [20:44] <jono> cool | |
| [20:44] <jcastro> and I will evade the accomplishments writing by saying I will have a guy look at doing it, but once he's done with some charms. | |
| [20:44] <jono> the main thing I need now are more accomplishments | |
| [20:44] <jono> lol, that's right, shovel it onto some poor soul | |
| [20:44] <jono> :-) | |
| [20:44] <jcastro> that won't be a problem, I am kind of maxed out on people doing things for juju though | |
| [20:44] <jono> learning a bit of launchpadlib might be useful | |
| [20:44] <jono> it is really handy | |
| [20:45] <jcastro> well, popey and I signed up for this "learn how to code" thing | |
| [20:45] <jcastro> which is useful, but not enough where I can dive in | |
| [20:45] <jcastro> of course the onus is on me to find other ways to contribute to it, I've just been kind of slammed with work | |
| [20:45] <jcastro> I mean, I want to help you more, but my boss is always on me about work stuff | |
| [20:45] <jcastro> maybe you can help me out? | |
| [20:46] <jono> lol | |
| [20:46] <jono> excuses excuses | |
| [20:46] <jono> j/k | |
| [20:46] <jcastro> hey | |
| [20:46] <jcastro> have you thought about hidden trophies? | |
| [20:46] <jcastro> like, "accidental ones" | |
| [20:47] <jcastro> hmm, this is one thing that would be hard with OSS | |
| [20:47] <jcastro> so on some games they don't tell you what the achievements all are | |
| [20:47] <jcastro> so you earn like "10 out of 25" | |
| [20:47] <jcastro> and the manual tells you the 10 | |
| [20:47] <jono> could be an interesting option in the future | |
| [20:47] <jcastro> and then you have to go figure out what the other 15 are. | |
| [20:48] <jcastro> it drives me crazy | |
| [20:50] <akgraner> jono and jcastro you two make me laugh and totally make me miss being active in this channel :-P | |
| [20:51] <jcastro> linaro got you busy? | |
| [20:56] <balloons> yay for rain! finally, so so dry here | |
| [20:57] <jcastro> jono: call in 3? | |
| [20:58] <jono> akgraner, :-) | |
| [20:58] <jono> jcastro, yup | |
| [20:58] <akgraner> jcastro, yep | |
| [20:58] <jcastro> akgraner: hey alright! | |
| [20:59] <akgraner> jcastro, it's totally awesome | |
| [20:59] <akgraner> (but shhh don't tell your boss but it makes me respect him more) | |
| [21:00] <akgraner> this community building stuff isn't as easy as you all make it look - but it's freakin fun and exciting :-) | |
| [21:00] <jono> akgraner, :-) | |
| [21:01] * akgraner goes back to work now... just popping in to say hi! | |
| [21:02] <jono> jcastro, sending invite now | |
| [21:02] <jcastro> \m/ | |
| [21:07] * MrChrisDruif still need to look at jono's youtube upload ^_^ | |
| [21:14] * balloons waves at akgraner | |
| [21:15] <akgraner> hey balloons so I'm getting a new iso from today b/c yesterday's build ubiquity segfaulted on me | |
| [21:17] <akgraner> and when I updated my main machine I had to re-install the ubuntu desktop with ^ b/c I couldn't get the hud to install (all b/c I had removed qwibber) | |
| [21:17] <mhall119> jcastro: rebooted, but no significant drop in power usage | |
| [21:18] <mhall119> I have a core 2 duo though, so maybe too old to benefit | |
| [21:21] <akgraner> mhall119, I'm following Michelle's bug filing technique atm :-) | |
| [21:21] <balloons> akgraner, if you reinstall | |
| [21:21] <balloons> hud and unity 5.4 are in the archive.. | |
| [21:22] <mhall119> akgraner: modified to fit your household I hope | |
| [21:22] * mhall119 has enough bugs to file | |
| [21:22] <balloons> so by default you should get uunity 5.4 that includes hud.. no need for ppa's atm fyi | |
| [21:22] <akgraner> :-) yep re-installing my test machine now | |
| [21:22] <balloons> i have another unity bug to file too | |
| [21:22] <balloons> so many today | |
| [21:25] <czajkowski> precise was oh so stable till last week | |
| [21:25] <czajkowski> friday evening lost my dekstop | |
| [21:25] <czajkowski> today everything is slow to redraw and freezing | |
| [21:25] <czajkowski> feature freeze = broken machine :/ | |
| [21:26] <balloons> gotta push the last of it in | |
| [21:26] <balloons> you know that :-) | |
| [21:26] <czajkowski> yeah wish some testing had been done before landing :/ | |
| [21:26] <czajkowski> having no desktop and having to wait 4 hrs for a fix is a bit a pita :/ | |
| [21:26] * balloons shamefully lowers his head | |
| [21:27] <balloons> czajkowski, we actually did test.. alot in fact | |
| [21:27] <balloons> so.. it could have been worse? I guess that's conselation? | |
| [21:27] <balloons> :-) | |
| [21:27] <czajkowski> balloons: aye you cant test for all test cases I'm fully aware | |
| [21:27] <czajkowski> just seems since feature freeze a lotta stuff is very broken which was fine till now | |
| [21:27] <balloons> we'll get better.. we've got good stuff planned moving forward | |
| [21:28] <czajkowski> yup everything always improves | |
| [21:28] <czajkowski> it's all good even if a little bit frustating but thats why I test unstable :) | |
| [21:28] <balloons> we want to show <3 to anyone brave enough to run the development version.. We need the active feedback | |
| [21:28] <czajkowski> yup filing the bugs and working on them with devs | |
| [21:29] <czajkowski> working on my redraw and compiz today with bryceh | |
| [21:31] <jono> balloons, all set? | |
| [21:31] <jono> mhall119, btw, cool how you are updating the post with saying things are done | |
| [21:32] <jono> but the bugs linked in the post that are done dont seem to be updated or have links to branches | |
| [21:32] <akgraner> looks like a successful re-install :-) | |
| [21:32] <balloons> yearp | |
| [21:33] <jono> balloons, sending an invite | |
| [21:34] <mhall119> jono: yeah, I didn't have them using --fixes lp:12345 on their commit, so I've been manually linking branches to bugs | |
| [21:35] <jono> mhall119, gotcha | |
| [22:19] <AlanBell> balloons: you just achieved the sabdfl'ed accomplishment | |
| [22:20] <balloons> yes indeed | |
| [22:20] <AlanBell> or close to it anyhow :) | |
| [22:20] <balloons> pretty epic | |
| === koolhead17 is now known as koolhead17|zzZZ | |
| [22:25] <bkerensa> heh | |
| [22:25] <bkerensa> jono how do I install accomplishments? | |
| [22:28] <ahayzen> bkerensa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Installing | |
| [22:29] <jono> bkerensa, just read my blog entry it explains how | |
| [22:36] <bkerensa> jono: When are we going to have joint list for regional Canonical workers and LoCo's | |
| [22:36] <bkerensa> :) | |
| [22:36] <jono> bkerensa, a what? | |
| [22:36] <bkerensa> jono: a list I can ping when we have events that local Canonical employees see | |
| [22:36] <bkerensa> :) | |
| [22:37] <jono> bkerensa, that Canonical employees see? | |
| [22:37] <AlanBell> that isn't the right way to approach that issue | |
| [22:37] <AlanBell> "how can we encourage all canonical employees to sign up to their LoCo mailing lists?" would be a better question | |
| [22:37] <bkerensa> my POC stopped working for Canonical at least temporarily so I don't know if that person still has access to the local Canonical mailing list to ping the locals | |
| [22:38] <jono> AlanBell, agreed | |
| [22:39] <bkerensa> AlanBell: That would be nice but I think what has happened at least locally is that the folks out here are on so many mailing list and channels even that if they can skip one more e-mail it makes their day much easier | |
| [22:39] <bkerensa> I have generally just sent event announcements upstream through a Canonical POC | |
| [22:39] <jono> bkerensa, if Canonical people dont want to attend, there isnt much we can do about it | |
| [22:39] <jono> and Canonical people should be treated no differently to any other people | |
| [22:39] <jono> either in a good or bad way :-) | |
| [22:40] <jono> well, maybe a good way | |
| [22:40] <jono> lol | |
| [22:40] <bkerensa> jono: Its not about not wanting to attend more about them not wanting to subscribe to ML :D | |
| [22:40] <bkerensa> jono: Oh no mistreating the Canonical folks eh? :P | |
| [22:40] <czajkowski> balloons: some loco ml are rather noisy | |
| [22:40] <jono> bkerensa, right, but we shouldnt force them to | |
| [22:40] <jono> they should want to | |
| [22:40] * AlanBell suspects there are more than 8 canonical people in the UK | |
| [22:40] <czajkowski> balloons: they could already be on enough ml tbh | |
| [22:40] <jono> bkerensa, and not everyone is interested in LoCos | |
| [22:40] <AlanBell> but that is how many are signed up to the uk mailing list with a canonical.com address | |
| [22:41] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Only 8? Wow... We have at least 8 in just Portland and one or two across the state | |
| [22:41] <popey> AlanBell: how many with an ubuntu.com address? | |
| [22:41] <AlanBell> popey: probably some more that way, but I do know that if I mail stuff to the mailing list I have to go poke people separately to get it circulated at millbank | |
| [22:42] <AlanBell> 13 @ubuntu.com addresses in total (one is jono) | |
| [22:43] <bkerensa> heh | |
| [22:44] <bkerensa> There are five ubuntu.com addresses on our list | |
| [22:44] <technoviking> afternoon all | |
| [22:45] <bkerensa> technoviking: Ello | |
| [22:45] <AlanBell> it isn't massively meaningful (I am subscribed with a gmail account), but I do know that if there are events and things we are doing in London Canonical folk don't get to hear about them unless I go to Millbank tower and print out a flyer and stick it on the fridge | |
| [22:45] <popey> 5 of the 13 work for canonical | |
| [22:46] <popey> I'm happy to forward mails to the millbank list | |
| [22:47] <AlanBell> that is great | |
| [22:47] <jcastro> jono: ping | |
| [22:48] <jcastro> jono: do you have a link to our graphs handy? | |
| [22:48] <jono> jcastro, charms? | |
| [22:48] <jcastro> I have kapil on G+ and I'd like to show him our team graphs | |
| [22:48] <jono> jcastro, which graphs? | |
| [22:48] <jcastro> no, the ones daniel and mhall use | |
| [22:48] <jono> sure, one sec | |
| [22:50] <czajkowski> AlanBell: as can I :) | |
| [22:51] <jono> czajkowski, mhall119, cjohnston, daker, good to join the LoCo Call in 9? | |
| [22:52] <AlanBell> yeah, the number of pokeable people is expanding all the time, but I still think there is a place for some more internal awareness of LoCo teams | |
| [22:52] <czajkowski> jono: yup | |
| [22:52] <AlanBell> night all o/ | |
| [22:52] <jono> awesome | |
| [22:52] <czajkowski> AlanBell: there could just be a lack of interest in locos | |
| [22:52] <jono> night AlanBell! | |
| [22:52] * AlanBell is in London tomorrow | |
| [22:52] <czajkowski> AlanBell: nn | |
| [22:53] <cjohnston> I'm out this week | |
| [22:53] * czajkowski has been up since 6:30 | |
| [22:53] <czajkowski> the wrong day to get up early | |
| [23:01] <jono> czajkowski, mhall119, daker creating hangout | |
| [23:01] <czajkowski> ok | |
| [23:03] <czajkowski> jono: not seeing the notification | |
| [23:04] <czajkowski> got it | |
| [23:23] <jcastro> AlanBell: around? | |
| [23:28] <mhall119> jono: forgot about the hangout, is it still going on? | |
| [23:32] <jcastro> man dude | |
| [23:32] <jcastro> snap-l: I have an awesome story | |
| [23:33] <jcastro> jono: feel free to listen in and make fun of me | |
| [23:33] <jcastro> hey so growing up "my" Maiden was like Somewhere in Time and things like 7th song, never really things like Killers and the old stuff | |
| [23:33] <jcastro> so when I really got into Maiden was in the mp3 age | |
| [23:33] <jcastro> so I've never actually listened to Killers in order | |
| [23:33] <jcastro> always in shuffle | |
| [23:34] <jcastro> anyway, on Sirius they /always/ play Ides of March and Wrathchild as one song | |
| [23:34] <jcastro> not like, the MP3's where it's separate songs. | |
| [23:34] <jcastro> anyway, after hearing it, I feel like I missed the entire experience of having 2 songs being back to back like that. | |
| [23:34] <jcastro> and that's my story | |
| [23:35] <jcastro> actually, that story isn't awesome at all | |
| [23:36] <mhall119> cool story bro | |
| [23:36] <mhall119> :) | |
| [23:37] <jcastro> actually, when Ides came on the radio my wife went "Ohh, Rush!", then it got all Maiden. | |
| [23:37] <jcastro> snap-l: agree with me here | |
| [23:37] <mhall119> *crickets* | |
| [23:38] <jcastro> mhall119: I don't think it's been made clear enough that post-work hours this channel is really #ubuntu-metal. | |
| [23:47] <jono> mhall119, nope, we quit it | |
| [23:47] <jono> jcastro, I know what you mean, man | |
| [23:47] <mhall119> jono: sorry, I forgot we were starting them back up | |
| [23:47] * mhall119 was reading to the kids | |
| [23:47] <jono> mhall119, no worries | |
| [23:54] <snap-l> jcastro: It's not until recently that I too got into Maiden | |
| [23:54] <snap-l> but I bought the CD | |
| [23:54] <snap-l> because I rip FLAC. :) | |
| === bkerensa_ is now known as bkerensa | |
| [23:56] <snap-l> although I have had some weird recommendations when people find out that I like Rush | |
| [23:56] <snap-l> s/like/love/ | |
| [23:56] <snap-l> LIke at Holland CD, the owner recommended I check out Golden Earring | |
| [23:57] <snap-l> Pretty sure Radar Love is not the same as The Fountain of Lamneth | |