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[02:48] <highvoltage> hola |
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[02:48] <highvoltage> (I don't understand spanish though) |
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[02:49] <stgraber> hallo |
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[14:04] <highvoltage> alk<tab> |
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[15:36] <highvoltage> hey alkisg |
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[15:36] <alkisg> high highvoltage :) |
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[15:37] <highvoltage> alkisg: we still have an iTalc slide on http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/precise/edubuntu-ubiquity-slideshow/ |
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[15:38] <highvoltage> alkisg: would you be able to come up with some new text we can put in there for epoptes? |
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[15:38] <alkisg> highvoltage: well at first glance we can keep the existing message there, epoptes can do all the stuff italc does |
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[15:38] <alkisg> But if we need something more ... hm... |
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[15:39] <highvoltage> heh, ok. I'll just rename it and replace the screenshot |
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[15:42] <alkisg> Some features that epoptes has, that italc doesn't... dynamic client detection, ltsp integration, ...most stuff actually works (e.g. not even logout worked in italc/linux), execute custom commands on the clients, and some minor features like broadcasting in a window or sound muting |
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[15:45] * highvoltage adds that |
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[16:08] <highvoltage> Installation de udev... |
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[16:08] <highvoltage> Mise à jour du serveur virtuel... |
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[16:08] <highvoltage> ERREUR: L'exécution du script '/etc/vsmanage/models/base/all/post.d/05upgrade.sh' a échoué (retour d'un code de sortie différent de zéro). |
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[16:08] <highvoltage> Voir /var/log/vsmanage/vsmanage.log pour plus de détails. |
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[16:08] <highvoltage> (sorry, totally wrong channel) |
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[16:13] <alkisg> stgraber: can we move ./ltsp-trunk/server/scripts/debian/policy-rc.d.ltsp to ltsp-client, and dpkg-divert it on ltsp-client.postinst, and also symlink it to /etc/grub.d/00-avoid-grub-update? |
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[16:15] <stgraber> alkisg: not sure I follow, policy-rc.d should only be done from ltsp-build-client as otherwise, installing ltsp-client on a non-LTSP machine will prevent all init scripts from starting (I know it's not possible yet, but it's the long term goal still) |
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[16:16] <alkisg> stgraber: once use case is to be able to build clients on regular machines but still be able to transfer them to the server and maintain them with chroot afterwards |
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[16:16] <alkisg> That policy wrapper doesn't do harm on regular machines |
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[16:16] <alkisg> (otherwise ltsp clients wouldn't even boot) |
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[16:16] * stgraber needs to read the script |
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[16:17] <alkisg> stgraber: in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/936810 I have a list of things to do, most of them are packaging tasks |
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[16:17] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 936810 in ltsp (Ubuntu) "Make ltsp-client package installable on regular machines" [Wishlist,In progress] |
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[16:17] <stgraber> right, it checks the environment |
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[16:17] <alkisg> I can send a debdiff + test them. I don't think we can do it in sync with vagrantc as we're too diverted with debian on that |
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[16:17] <stgraber> dpkg-divert is generally considered evil, so the least we have to do it, the better really |
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[16:17] <alkisg> So when we're done he can check the diff + sync what he wants |
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[16:18] <alkisg> Indeed, we only do it for the chroot maintainance |
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[16:18] <alkisg> We don't need it for maintaining or booting ltsp in regular machines |
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[16:18] <alkisg> And I think it's documented that for chroots that's the appropriate method |
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[16:18] <stgraber> I'd prefer we ship a separate file as /etc/grub.d/00-avoid-grub-update that exits "1" instead of "101" and tells the user why it's exitting |
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[16:19] <alkisg> Yes, that'd be better |
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[16:19] <stgraber> can't we make ltsp-chroot write and remove the policy-rc.d file instead? |
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[16:19] <alkisg> ...sure why not! |
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[16:19] <stgraber> I think it'd make sense to move that kind of chroot maintenance stuff to ltsp-chroot and maybe have ltsp-build-client call ltsp-chroot |
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[16:21] <alkisg> In the same sense, ltsp-chroot can also install the grub-update diversion |
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[16:23] <alkisg> Do you want us to go through the packaging stuff together whenever you have time? Would you like me to prepare a .debdiff instead? |
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[16:26] <stgraber> indeed grub should be done by ltsp-chroot too (writting and removing the file) |
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[16:26] <stgraber> for the packaging, it'd be great if you could commit your changes by small chunks to a branch of ubuntu:ltsp, then send a merge proposal |
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[16:26] <stgraber> that way I can see the different commits and it's much easier to review |
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[16:26] <alkisg> Sure, will do the same for ltspfs too |
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[16:27] <alkisg> (if it's a different packaging, haven't looked) |
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[16:27] <stgraber> ltspfs is maintained directly in Debian, so ideally, send your changes to vagrant |
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[16:27] <stgraber> and if we need them in Ubuntu 12.04, we'll need to do some paperwork ;) |
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[16:28] <alkisg> Nah for ltspfs it's just a small bugfix :D |
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[16:28] <alkisg> For ltsp, yes I think we'll need it :) |
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[16:29] <alkisg> Ah stgraber can I upload a new version of epoptes with modified UI, no additional features? |
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[16:29] <alkisg> UI freeze is tomorrow, right? |
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[16:29] <alkisg> Or do I need to get it to debian first, and sync later? (which will get me past uif...) |
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[16:30] <stgraber> alkisg: upload it as <version>-0ubuntu1 to Ubuntu directly, then have vagrant upload <version>-1 and sync it to Ubuntu |
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[16:30] <alkisg> Thanks! |
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[16:30] <stgraber> that way we have the new UI before UI freeze and then we're back in sync with Debian |
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[16:35] <highvoltage> alkisg: I updated the slide for epoptes on http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/files/precise/edubuntu-ubiquity-slideshow/ - let me know if I should change anything further |
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[17:52] <stgraber> highvoltage: the Edubuntu grey looks a bit weird on the blue background, did you try in white instead? |
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[18:02] <highvoltage> I could do that |
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[21:22] <alkisg> stgraber: bit of help? epoptes/trunk$ debuild -S -sa |
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[21:22] <alkisg> ...dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../epoptes_0.4.3.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz} |
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[21:23] <stgraber> well, you're obviously missing a .orig.tar.gz tarball ;) |
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[21:23] <alkisg> :) some magic to tell debuild to create one? |
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[21:24] <stgraber> not really, it's not debuild's job |
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[21:24] <stgraber> let me have a look at the branch, I'm not familiar with epoptes' trunk |
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[21:25] <stgraber> oh, you have a debian directory in your trunk, interesting ... |
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[21:25] <alkisg> It's easier for maintainance... |
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[21:26] <alkisg> I also had a native package at first but vagrantc changed it |
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[21:26] <alkisg> Let me push the changelog btw |
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[21:26] <stgraber> yeah, and it looks like vagrant has been repacking your tarball too |
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[21:26] <alkisg> OK, pushed, that's what I want to upload |
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[21:27] <stgraber> so in theory: |
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[21:27] <alkisg> So, am I supposed to manually generated a tar.gz before running debuild?! |
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[21:27] <stgraber> - bzr export ../epoptes-0.4.3 |
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[21:27] <stgraber> - cd ../epoptes-0.4.3 |
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[21:27] <stgraber> - rm -Rf debian/ |
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[21:27] <stgraber> - cd .. |
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[21:27] <stgraber> - tar -zcf epoptes_0.4.3.orig.tar.gz epoptes-0.4.3/ |
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[21:27] <stgraber> - cp -R trunk/debian epoptes-0.4.3/ |
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[21:27] <stgraber> - cd epoptes-0.4.3/ |
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[21:27] <stgraber> - debuild -S -sa |
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[21:28] <alkisg> Gotcha, thanks, trying... |
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[21:28] <stgraber> that should give you: epoptes_0.4.3.orig.tar.gz (without debian/) + epoptes_0.4.3-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz (with only debian/) |
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[21:28] <stgraber> put them somewhere before you upload so I can make sure it's indeed clean and vagrant won't have an heart attack when seeing them ;) |
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[21:31] <alkisg> stgraber: epoptes_0.4.3.orig.tar.gz contains an epoptes-0.4.3 folder, while epoptes_0.4.3-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz contains debian/ without any parent folders, is this ok? |
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[21:31] <alkisg> (other than that all seem fine, uploading...) |
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[21:31] <alkisg> (to an ftp dir... :)) |
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[21:32] <alkisg> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alkisg/tmp/epoptes/ |
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[21:35] <stgraber> yep |
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[21:35] <stgraber> looking now |
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[21:36] <stgraber> yep, looks all good |
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[21:36] <alkisg> Many thanks! :) |
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[21:37] <alkisg> Uploaded, /me crosses fingers... |
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