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[01:09] <mhall119> doctormon: I'm pretty sure launchpadlib was designed by the devil himself |
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[01:09] <mhall119> or maybe he just made lazr.restful |
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[01:09] <mhall119> either way you have to sell your soul to use it |
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[01:18] <nigelb> doctormon: Its maintained by Launchpad Team. |
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[01:21] <bkerensa> I can no longer say 12.04 is stable :P |
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[01:42] <mhall119> balloons: any idea why I don't have "unity testing" tool in my dash? |
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[01:43] <mhall119> I have System Testing |
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[01:43] <mhall119> is that the same thing? |
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[01:43] <bkerensa> I didnt have Unity Testing tool either |
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[01:53] <mhall119> bkerensa: are you on Unity 5.2? |
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[01:58] * cjohnston is debating upgrading the lappy to precise |
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[01:59] <mhall119> cjohnston: I've been running it for a week |
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[01:59] <bkerensa> mhall119: When I had the PPA yes |
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[01:59] <mhall119> other than a PPA conflict between HUD testing and Unity 5.2 testing, I haven't had any problems |
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[01:59] <cjohnston> i have been on the desk |
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[01:59] <bkerensa> I have been using precise for a few weeks prior to Alpha 1 and have had minimal issues |
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[01:59] <mhall119> bkerensa: did you have the HUD ppa too? |
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[02:00] <bkerensa> mhall119: Yes |
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[02:00] <mhall119> that bit me pretty bad, yeah |
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[02:00] <mhall119> you have to ppa-purge the HUD ppa *before* installing the unity staging ppa |
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[02:00] <mhall119> otherwise everything goes wrong |
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[02:08] <bkerensa> ah |
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[02:36] <doctormon> mhall119: wonderful news, I can search for people on launchpad through a lens too. |
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[02:36] <mhall119> doctormon: nice! |
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[02:36] <mhall119> where's the code? |
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[02:39] <doctormon> mhall119: The lens code is out of branch, but lp:groundcontrol has a command line tool you can play with |
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[02:40] <doctormon> I'm working out this damn lens interface, I want it to run internally like all the other apis. |
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[02:40] <doctormon> So hold onto your hat because I know you're interested in seeing the lens rather than just the dbus. |
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[02:43] <mhall119> doctormon: I'm making a list of lenses, so I kind of want that code |
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[02:43] <doctormon> Yeah don't list it until it's there. |
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[02:45] <mhall119> if I list it, does that mean you have to hurry up and publish it? |
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[02:49] <doctormon> mhall119: That is an interesting question isn't it ;-) |
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[03:24] <doctormon> mhall119: Are you still here? |
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[03:24] <mhall119> depends, is your branch ready? |
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[03:28] <doctormon> mhall119: I'm wondering why your run_lens code is registering a bunch of dbus names. Quite complex stuff. |
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[03:28] <doctormon> I need to duplicate it since I won't be running from the command line but internally. |
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[03:29] <doctormon> But the Unity.Lens docs don't seem to mention this part. |
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[03:37] <mhall119> doctormon: you're running the lens code inside of groundcontrol? |
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[03:37] <mhall119> lenses operate over dbus |
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[03:37] <mhall119> it's how they communicate with the dash, and with scopes |
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[03:53] <doctormon> mhall119: Yes and yes |
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[03:53] <doctormon> My dbus objects look very different and the Unity.Lens documentation seems to suggest it takes care of registering the addresses. |
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[03:55] <doctormon> I think I'm going to try cutting out singlet and trying to use the Unity.Lens module directly. |
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[04:02] <mhall119> yeah, singlet is made to run stand-along processes, not sure how Lenses should work within another program |
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[05:17] <koolhead17> mhall119: ping |
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[05:25] <nigelb> He's probably asleep by now. |
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[06:53] <bkerensa> does anyone know what kwaimuk.canonical.com, mulberry.canonical.com, humboldt.canonical.com are? I noticed that my Ubuntu install is calling home to those hosts a lot even with Statistics Submission and U1 Sync disabled... |
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[07:21] <dpm> good morning all |
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[07:22] <benonsoftware> Hello dpm |
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[07:24] <dpm> hi benonsoftware |
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[08:05] <czajkowski> aloha |
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[08:09] <dpm> morning czajkowski |
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[08:09] <dpm> morgen dholbach, how was the first UDW day? |
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[08:09] <dholbach> good morning |
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[08:09] <dholbach> hey dpm |
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[08:10] <dholbach> dpm, awesome |
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[08:10] <dpm> that's what we like to hear :) |
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[08:10] <dholbach> when I was still there we had ~330 people |
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[08:10] <dholbach> lots of questions too :) |
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[08:10] <dpm> great |
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[08:14] <alourie> good morning |
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[08:21] <czajkowski> dpm: ello |
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[08:23] <dpm> hey :) |
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[08:23] <dpm> morning alourie |
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[08:23] <alourie> hi dpm |
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[08:34] <dholbach> Joeb454, happy birthday |
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[08:45] <jono> another marathon coding session is over :-) |
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[08:45] <jono> making solid progress on Ubuntu Accomplishments |
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[08:45] <jono> :-) |
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[08:45] <benonsoftware> How is it going? |
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[08:45] <jono> all going well :-) |
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[08:46] <jono> I now have most of the core system built - just need to work on the final verification piece next |
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[08:46] <benonsoftware> Cool |
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[08:47] <jono> right, heading to bed |
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[08:48] <dholbach> night jono! :) |
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[08:48] <benonsoftware> See you jono |
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[08:49] <jono> night all! |
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[10:39] <bkerensa> Good Night folks! |
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[10:41] <dholbach> night bkerensa |
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[12:54] <mhall119> bkerensa: what processes were calling them? |
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[13:20] <mhall119> dholbach: morning |
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[13:23] <dholbach> hey mhall119 |
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[13:23] <dholbach> I got your mail, didn't have time yet to check into it |
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[13:23] <dholbach> today is a bit crazy |
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[13:23] <dholbach> are you sure you don't want to get access to the parts of cranberry yourself? :) |
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[13:23] <mhall119> that means more work for me though |
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[13:24] <nigelb> 230 |
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[13:24] <nigelb> argh |
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[13:24] <dholbach> gotcha, I'll do it then |
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[13:24] <nigelb> dholbach: I vote you get mhall119 root on that machine... ;) |
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[13:27] <mhall119> dholbach: what all would I need access to? |
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[13:28] <dholbach> huats, can we move our call to maybe tomorrow or Friday? |
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[13:28] <huats> dholbach, sure |
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[13:28] <dholbach> mhall119, I guess you just need to be added to qa-team |
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[13:29] <huats> dholbach, Friday same time ? |
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[13:29] <dholbach> huats, I know that the wiki clean up is still ongoing and we need to do the announce, but apart from that things are looking good |
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[13:29] <dholbach> huats, sounds good to me - maybe just 10-15m to go through the trello board together and decide how we want to use it |
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[13:29] <dholbach> thanks a lot huats, I'm in a bit of hurry today :) |
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[13:29] <huats> dholbach, I would like to have some info on your syntax on trello :) |
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[13:29] <huats> so do I |
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[13:29] <huats> :) |
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[13:29] <huats> thanks to you |
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[13:29] <dholbach> hehe, great :) |
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[13:29] <dholbach> de rien, mon ami |
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[13:45] <huats> dholbach, regarding the wiki cleanup |
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[13:45] <huats> I am wondering what to do with old meetings logs... |
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[13:46] <dholbach> maybe just write a small wiki page saying: |
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[13:46] <dholbach> """This content is obsolete. |
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[13:46] <dholbach> The Mentoring programme was shut down. |
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[13:46] <dholbach> Here's what we do nowadays: <link to d-a-t>.""" |
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[13:46] <dholbach> and include that on the pages |
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[13:46] <dholbach> or just remove the pages altogether |
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[13:49] <mhall119> dholbach: unity-stats appears to be a symlink to a directory in /home/dholbach/... |
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[13:50] <dholbach> I can move it somewhere else if you like - hang on |
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[13:52] <dholbach> ok, let me update the code now |
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[13:52] <dholbach> we can still look for another place |
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[13:53] <dholbach> mhall119, there's conflicts in the code? |
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[13:53] <dholbach> like in your merge proposal |
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[13:53] <huats> dholbach, this little text was also my idea |
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[13:54] <huats> I am glad you made some words on it |
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[13:54] <huats> thnaks |
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[13:54] <mhall119> dholbach: let me check |
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[13:59] <mhall119> dholbach: this is what I get for emailing a patch, bzr didn't know that my changes were already there |
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[13:59] <mhall119> dholbach: I re-based my branch, should be a clean merge now |
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[13:59] <dholbach> ok, just a sec |
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[14:02] <dholbach> thanks merged, running the script now |
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[14:06] <dholbach> benonsoftware, ready? :) |
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[14:11] <jcastro> hey dholbach |
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[14:11] <dholbach> hey jcastro |
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[14:11] <jcastro> what trello board are you on? |
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[14:11] <dholbach> currently none |
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[14:12] <dholbach> I mostly just use the one we use in the advisory team |
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[14:12] <jcastro> ah ok, I was afraid I was missing out on something, nm. |
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[14:12] <jcastro> DEVELOPER WEEK. \m/ |
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[14:12] <jcastro> sorry I had to yell that out |
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[14:12] <mhall119> heh |
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[14:12] <dholbach> :) |
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[14:12] <dholbach> ok, need to take the dog for a walk |
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[14:13] <dholbach> brb |
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[14:50] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek day 2 starting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom |
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[15:08] <balloons> good luck dpm ;-) |
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[15:08] <dpm> thanks balloons ;) |
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[15:41] <jcastro> woo! |
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[15:41] <jcastro> Daviey: did you guys discuss #ubuntu-cloud and its fate your last meeting? |
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[15:42] <Daviey> jcastro: Sort of.. |
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[15:42] <czajkowski> is it going up in the air :) |
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[15:45] <Daviey> we might rename it to #ubuntu-fog |
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[15:49] <czajkowski> yes cloud discussions do tend to be very foggy at times, very hard to see through the dense chatter ;) |
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[15:49] <akgraner> balloons, your call for testing posted to the Fridge this morning |
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[15:52] <Daviey> czajkowski: how poetic! |
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[15:52] <jcastro> Daviey: kill it! |
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[15:53] <jono> jcastro, dpm, dholbach, balloons, mhall119 - team hangout in 7 mins |
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[15:53] <balloons> akgraner, thank you :-) |
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[15:53] <Daviey> jcastro: I'll have an answer by tues EoD.. but i think it's a yes |
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[15:53] <dholbach> jono, I thought the team did a hangout yesterday already? :) |
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[15:54] <jono> dholbach, really? |
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[15:54] <jono> I wasn't there |
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[15:54] <dholbach> me neither :) |
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[15:54] <jono> then how was there a team hangout :-) |
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[15:54] <dholbach> seems we missed the irc meeting then :) |
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[15:54] <jono> yup |
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[15:54] <dholbach> the rest of the team hung out |
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[15:54] <czajkowski> Daviey: that'sthe Irish in me, all great poets come from there :) |
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[15:56] <jono> dholbach, so can you do the hangout? |
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[15:56] <dholbach> jono, si si |
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[15:56] <jono> cool |
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[15:56] <jono> jcastro, can't make it |
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[15:58] <dholbach> dpm is still surrounded with 240 people who want to learn more about apps in Ubuntu |
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[15:58] <jono> dpm, are you going to be too busy for the hangout? |
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[15:58] <dholbach> he should be finished in 2-3m |
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[15:59] <dpm> jono, I'm about to finish, I'll just be 2 mins late |
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[15:59] <jono> dpm, cool |
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[15:59] <dholbach> hang out is set up |
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[16:01] <jono> on my way |
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[16:02] <mhall119> plugging in |
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[16:03] <dpm> ok, answering the last questions on -chat, grabbing the headset and coming over |
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[16:28] <akgraner> jcastro - sorry to ask you for the millionth time - what is your presentation work around you were telling me about |
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[17:21] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow |
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[17:38] <jcastro> mhall119: yo |
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[17:38] <jcastro> akgraner: work around? |
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[17:39] <akgraner> yeah what were you using |
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[17:39] <akgraner> b/c impress is so broken |
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[17:39] <jcastro> oh |
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[17:39] <akgraner> you mentioned it at SCALE |
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[17:39] <jcastro> deck.js |
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[17:39] <akgraner> thanks |
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[17:39] <jcastro> but clint didn't like it |
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[17:41] <jcastro> http://jsbin.com/oxohev#slide1 is another one |
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[17:41] <jcastro> http://markdalgleish.com/projects/fathom/ and another one |
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[17:41] <jcastro> I haven't gone through them all and figured out which one is best |
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[17:42] <mhall119> jcastro: hey |
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[17:43] <jcastro> can you fill me in on what I missed with the hangout? |
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[17:43] <jcastro> aka. what did I get voluntold to do for global jam? :) |
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[17:43] <mhall119> lol |
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[17:43] <mhall119> what would ever make you think we'd do something like that? |
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[17:44] <jcastro> I would be disappointed otherwise. :) |
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[17:45] <balloons> jcastro, mostly just 80's hair band references.. and jono's lack of hair and voice to sing in said bands |
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[17:47] <jcastro> singing is a stretch |
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[17:47] <jcastro> I call it "screaming in key" |
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[17:50] <jono> harsh |
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[17:50] <jono> but fair. |
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[17:52] <mhall119> jcastro: mostly we were discussing ways of fostering a community of appreciation |
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[17:52] <mhall119> and recognition |
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[17:52] <jcastro> It's not meant be harsh, that's just the style of the music |
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[17:52] <jcastro> that is awesome |
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[17:53] <jcastro> I don't want to be sung to, I want to be rocked. \m/ |
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[17:53] <jcastro> If I want to be sung to I'll watch OPERA. |
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[17:53] <jcastro> mhall119: ah excellent |
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[17:53] <mhall119> I want to not bleed out of my ears |
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[17:53] <jcastro> hey I added some accomplishment guidelines to the spec |
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[17:53] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accomplishments/Trophies |
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[17:54] <mhall119> jono: you should make a self-referential trophy |
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[17:54] <mhall119> "Got a Trophy" |
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[17:54] <jono> mhall119, LOL |
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[17:54] <jono> that would be easy |
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[17:55] <mhall119> or "Wrote an Accomplishments script", then award it to yourself as soon as you're done |
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[17:55] <jcastro> That would be awesome |
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[17:55] <jcastro> "Trophy Crafter" |
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[17:55] <jono> thanks jcastro |
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[17:55] <jono> I made some big improvements on it this week |
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[17:55] <jono> I only have the U1 component to add and then the system should be working |
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[17:55] <jcastro> we could call it "Sauron". :) |
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[17:55] <jono> but I know how to do that |
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[17:56] <jono> the U1 bit is called the matrix :-) |
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[17:56] <jcastro> I tried to keep the guidelines lose but strict. |
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[17:56] <jono> but I need more accomplishments files |
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[17:56] <balloons> blue pill please |
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[17:56] <jcastro> it'd suck if people made dump trophies just to earn them |
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[17:56] <jono> jcastro, yeah, and we can fill those out more as we go forward |
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[17:56] * jcastro nods |
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[17:56] <jono> jcastro, exactly, this is why this is called "accomplishments" instead of "achievements" |
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[17:56] <jcastro> I am hoping people get clever and humorous with it. |
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[17:56] <popey> i managed to file four bugs and get sequential bug numbers, I deserve an achievement :D |
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[17:56] <jono> I think so |
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[17:57] <jono> popey, LOL |
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[17:57] <jcastro> You know someone will make "SABDFLed" -- where Mark closes one of your bugs as opinion. |
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[17:57] <jcastro> that would be brilliant |
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[17:57] <mhall119> we need a "Shut it Down!" achievement, just for popey |
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[17:58] <jcastro> "shut down more than 3 community resources." |
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[17:58] <mhall119> lol |
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[17:58] <popey> ☺ |
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[17:58] <jcastro> tying into work items would be great too |
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[17:59] <jcastro> maybe a slightly embarrrassing trophy for people who never finish them would help us out. mwahaha. |
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[18:00] <jono> well the accomplishments scripts support multiple languages and now different types of auth data |
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[18:00] <jono> so it is pretty flexible |
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[18:00] <jono> when I finish the core system, I will document all of this |
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[18:00] <jcastro> "annoying guy at UDS that dominates the conversation for 40 minutes and then bails when it comes time to volunteer to work." |
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[18:00] <mhall119> "broke trunk" |
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[18:00] * jcastro whistles |
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[18:00] <jono> maybe I should run a hangout to show it working? |
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[18:00] <jono> anyone wanna see it? |
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[18:01] <mhall119> too bad we can't record yet |
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[18:01] <jcastro> I'd like to but I can drop out if it'll give someone else a chance to join in |
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[18:01] <mhall119> jono: maybe a screencast and upload to youtube? |
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[18:01] <jono> mhall119, I plan on that in a bit |
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[18:01] <jono> jcastro, no worries |
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[18:01] <popey> \o/ hangout |
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[18:01] <jcastro> but yeah count me in |
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[18:02] <jono> one sec, while I set it up |
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[18:03] <jono> ok hangout set up on G+ |
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[18:04] <jono> can I provide a link to it? |
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[18:04] <jcastro> https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/talk.google.com/ubuntu%2520accomplishments%2520demo |
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[18:04] <jcastro> is what it tells me |
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[18:07] <jono> folks hangout is open for ubuntu accomplishments demo if you want to join |
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[18:07] <jono> it is in my timeline on G+ |
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[18:08] <ahayzen> @jono: Well done with all the work on the accomplishments, really loving it. Will this application become default in Ubuntu at some point or will you have to install it? |
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[18:08] <meetingology> ahayzen: Error: "jono:" is not a valid command. |
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[18:08] <ahayzen> oh yeah no @ sign ;) ... always forget |
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[18:12] <jono> resent hangout |
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[18:25] <pleia2> cjohnston: what is the car situation for folks coming to LC? we're trying to pick a location and need to know if it needs to be walkable from the hotel |
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[19:04] <s-fox> Hello. |
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[19:21] <mhall119> jono: ping |
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[19:22] <jono> mhall119, hey |
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[19:23] <mhall119> jono: including all of the merged branches in the graph will make the other lines so far down you won't be able to get meaning out of them |
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[19:24] <jono> mhall119, ok, break out another graph then |
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[19:24] <jono> that's fine |
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[19:24] <mhall119> with just merged count? |
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[19:30] <jono> mhall119, yup |
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[19:35] <mhall119> 3/w 76 |
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[19:37] <balloons> mhall119, when you had your compiz crash while testing unity -- where you able to manually report it and/or get a system log? |
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[19:37] <balloons> I know the apport tool likely yelled at you as running from a ppa, but I was wondering if you had the option to collect the info manually |
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[19:37] <balloons> perhaps by doing ubuntu-bug compiz? |
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[19:39] <balloons> it appears like that would work.. :-) |
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[19:51] <balloons> also mhall119, did you ever find unity testing app? |
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[19:56] <mhall119> balloons: nope |
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[19:56] <jono> my Ubuntu video Q+A is in a few mins at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon |
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[19:56] <mhall119> balloons: I assume it's in unity-team/ppa, but not unity-team/staging |
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[19:56] <mhall119> balloons: I didn't try manually reporting |
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[19:56] <jcastro> jono: I'll listen in! |
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[19:57] <mhall119> I wasn't sure if it would gather anythign useful after compiz has reloaded |
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[19:57] * benonsoftware wishes he could listen in :( |
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[19:57] <balloons> mhall119, ahh.. yes the staging ppa |
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[19:57] <balloons> it's not in there |
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[19:57] <mhall119> jono: in order to check if a branch owner is canonical or not, I'm going to need to build authentication into daniel's stats collecting code |
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[19:58] <balloons> ok.. on the compiz thing, looks like manually running ubuntu-bug will work |
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[19:58] <jcastro> hah |
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[19:58] <mhall119> balloons: but what will that collect? |
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[19:58] <balloons> i can do it now.. I'm assuming I can do it in case of a crash |
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[19:58] <jcastro> "oh look I accidentally left that flying V on the couch." |
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[19:58] <balloons> if I did it right after a crash it should get the remnants of it.. perhaps not |
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[19:58] <mhall119> if compiz crashed, then successfully reloaded, and then I can ubuntu-bug, I assume it would see a happily running compiz |
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[19:59] <jcastro> "sorry I didn't mean to look like a rock star." |
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[19:59] <balloons> yes.. don't reload :-) |
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[19:59] <balloons> leave it crashed and go to tty1 |
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[19:59] <mhall119> it reloads by itself |
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[19:59] <balloons> i thought you had the option? |
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[19:59] <balloons> at the least when it occurs you could go to tty1 and leave the msgbox hanging there right? |
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[20:00] <balloons> not-intuitive to say the least |
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[20:00] <mhall119> I just saw the unity bits flicker, disappear, then reappear |
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[20:01] <balloons> ahh.. you never got a compiz crashed box? |
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[20:03] <mhall119> balloons: after compiz came back up I got the apport dialog |
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[20:04] <balloons> gotcha.. yea, no good |
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[20:52] <pleia2> akgraner: trying to arrange a linaro connect meetup with california folks, will you be available for pizza dinner sunday evening? |
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[20:52] <pleia2> if so, what time is good for this thing? :) |
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[20:57] <jcastro> caffeine refill, be back in 10! |
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[21:05] <pleia2> jono: Christian Einfeldt sent you an email this morning (Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] 11 Ubuntu machines went live today in a school) about possibly meeting up tonight in SF |
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[21:06] <jono> pleia2, yeah, was on calls all day, will respond |
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[21:06] <jono> tonight is a problem I have rehearsal |
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[21:07] <pleia2> jono: oops, I meant *tomorrow* night |
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[21:07] <pleia2> and thanks :) |
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[21:13] <jono> pleia2, tomorrow I rehearse too - I am basically out of luck in the evenings as I rehearse Wed and Thu, play the show on Fri, and have dinner with friends on Sat and Sun |
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[21:46] <jcastro> jono: hey, UDS isn't that far away, we need to have a think about a jam song |
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[21:46] <jono> jcastro, indeed |
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[21:47] <jcastro> I was thinking something that doesn't take itself too seriously |
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[21:47] <jcastro> something "greendayish" but of course, not sucky |
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[21:51] <jcastro> <--- working on charm school content so going offline to concentrate: I leave you all with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O9zMnwD65Q |
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[21:55] <cjohnston> It's the end of the world as we know it |
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[21:58] <mhall119> alright, I'm off |
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[21:59] <cjohnston> iff? |
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[21:59] <cjohnston> off? |
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[21:59] <cjohnston> where do you think your going |
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[22:26] <jono> cprofitt, all set |
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[22:26] <jono> cprofitt, G+ still work for you? |
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[22:26] <cprofitt> sure |
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[22:26] <cprofitt> let me hook up camera |
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[22:29] <jono> cprofitt, invite sent |
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[22:30] <jono> cprofitt, keep losing you |
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[22:30] <cprofitt> its crashing... give me a minute |
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[22:50] <cprofitt> going to eat dinner all. |
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[22:51] <balloons> bye mhall119 |
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[22:57] <bkerensa> Awesome Ubuntu Hour this Friday :D |
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[22:58] <bkerensa> Got Comp Sci students coming from three universities and the people who run Kernel.org :D |
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[23:03] <balloons> aweseome bkerensa! |
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[23:03] <bkerensa> indeed :D the best part is were having Pho for dinner :P |
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[23:07] <balloons> interesting... |
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[23:08] <bkerensa> balloons: Have you had Pho before? |
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[23:08] <balloons> i have not |
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[23:08] <balloons> but adding it to the list of things to try |
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[23:09] <balloons> in general I enjoy SE asian cuisine |
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[23:51] <cjohnston> pleia2: did you ever get a response from akgraner |
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[23:53] <pleia2> cjohnston: nope |
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[23:53] <cjohnston> :-( |
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[23:54] <pleia2> we'll have pizza sunday night, even if it's just you and me ;) but I do need to know about timing |
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[23:54] <cjohnston> I get there at 325.. |
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[23:54] <cjohnston> so i gotta get to the hotel |
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[23:55] <pleia2> I'm thinking 6 or 7PM |
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[23:55] <pleia2> (they're open until 10) |
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[23:56] <MrChrisDruif> pleia2; got a minute? |
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[23:57] <MrChrisDruif> It's about that proof-reading that poem I talked about the other day |
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[23:58] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: email it to me? I'm still at work and kinda busy this afternoon, but I can try to find time :) |
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[23:59] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks pleia2 , I'll send you the link |
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[23:59] <MrChrisDruif> ^_^ |
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