| [01:58] <grapz> Hi. I'm giving it a shot trying to fix a juju bug, but I was wondering how I can run it from the bzr checkout I have? If i do a bin/juju in my checked out folder, it seems to be loading the juju files that comes with the official package, not the ones I've changed. | |
| [06:08] <hspencer> hey guys | |
| [06:08] <hspencer> quick question | |
| [06:08] <hspencer> why was the decision made to go with txAWS instead of boto? | |
| [06:08] <hspencer> just curioius? | |
| [06:08] <hspencer> curious i mean | |
| [08:23] <SpamapS> hspencer: because txaws makes it easier to take advantage of twisted for doing other things while waiting for AWS | |
| [08:23] <SpamapS> like responding to zookeeper watches | |
| [09:57] <fwereade_> grapz, if you're around, "export PYTHONPATH=$(pwd)" and then you can bin/juju ... to your heart's content | |
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| [12:22] <avl_> hello | |
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| [12:22] <^LoGiN^> does anybody familiar with juju/orchestra integration ? | |
| [12:23] <^LoGiN^> i am getting following issue durung juju bootstrapping within orchestra environment | |
| [12:24] <^LoGiN^> juju bootstrap | |
| [12:24] <^LoGiN^> 2012-01-29 14:23:56,159 INFO Bootstrapping environment 'orchestra' (type: orchestra)... | |
| [12:24] <^LoGiN^> Could not find any Cobbler systems marked as available and configured for network boot. | |
| [12:24] <^LoGiN^> 2012-01-29 14:23:56,184 ERROR Could not find any Cobbler systems marked as available and configured for network boot. | |
| [12:28] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, can you tell me a bit more about your environment? | |
| [12:29] <^LoGiN^> i have 2 servers | |
| [12:29] <^LoGiN^> 1 orchestra server+juju | |
| [12:29] <^LoGiN^> second one is orchestra installed node | |
| [12:29] <^LoGiN^> all of them are running in Virtualbox VMS | |
| [12:30] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, ok, what systems do you have configured in cobbler on the orchestra server? | |
| [12:30] <^LoGiN^> orchestra server works like a charm but when i try to run juju on it it doesn' bootstrap | |
| [12:31] <fwereade_> if you go to /cobbler_web on the orchestra server and log in there, there should be a sidebar link to"Systems" | |
| [12:31] <^LoGiN^> there is one system configured | |
| [12:31] <^LoGiN^> Profiles | |
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| [12:31] <^LoGiN^> Management Classes | |
| [12:31] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, cool: would you check the management classes on that system? | |
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| [12:32] <^LoGiN^> Cobbler | |
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| [12:32] <^LoGiN^> Systems | |
| [12:32] <^LoGiN^> Create new system | |
| [12:32] <^LoGiN^> Items/page: ⇐ ⇒ | |
| [12:32] <^LoGiN^> Name ↓ Profile Netboot_Enabled Actions | |
| [12:32] <^LoGiN^> oneiric01.openstack.lan oneiric-x86_64-juju | |
| [12:32] <^LoGiN^> how can i do it | |
| [12:32] <^LoGiN^> in config ? | |
| [12:33] <fwereade_> ok, I think there's an "edit" link next tothe system in the systems view | |
| [12:33] <^LoGiN^> orchestra-juju-available is selected for this system | |
| [12:34] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, cool, there should also be a netboot enabled checkbox somewhere | |
| [12:34] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, is that ticked? | |
| [12:34] <^LoGiN^> yes | |
| [12:35] <^LoGiN^> it is checked and i cannot change it | |
| [12:35] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, hmm, ok | |
| [12:35] * fwereade_ thinks | |
| [12:35] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, would you do a "juju -v bootstrap" and pastebin me the output? | |
| [12:35] <^LoGiN^> holdon | |
| [12:35] <^LoGiN^> i think i found it | |
| [12:36] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, cool | |
| [12:36] <^LoGiN^> when i have started the system it was enabled | |
| [12:36] <^LoGiN^> after deployment it was disabled somehow not by me | |
| [12:36] <^LoGiN^> works now | |
| [12:36] <^LoGiN^> thanks a lot | |
| [12:37] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, yeah, that's intentional -- once you've deployed a bunch of stuff to that system we expect you'd be pissed off if it reinstalled itself from scratch just because you rebooted it | |
| [12:37] <^LoGiN^> i see | |
| [12:37] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, if you terminate-machine that system, or if you destroy-environment, then it should be set back to the state it was in before yu started | |
| [12:38] <^LoGiN^> how can i access to the newly installed system ? | |
| [12:38] <^LoGiN^> i have generated key but it asks me a password which i don't know | |
| [12:39] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, once it's gone through the whole process (which does take a while, it installs it from scratch) -- ie when juju status actually shows it as running -- you should be able to "juju ssh 0" (to machine 0, substitute other numbers as required) | |
| [12:40] <^LoGiN^> i see | |
| [12:40] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, btw, I'd suggest having 4 VMs to play around with really: one orchestra server, one for juju to bootstrap on, and 2 more so you can deploy 2 services and relate them | |
| [12:40] <^LoGiN^> do i need to run coation ?mmandprompt for massive deployments or there will be some web interface integr | |
| [12:41] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, if you want to ssh manually it should be fine: juju will have installed your public key, and you can "ssh ubuntu@..." | |
| [12:41] <^LoGiN^> do i need to run commandprompt for massive deployments or there will be some web interface integration? | |
| [12:41] <^LoGiN^> i want to deploy openstack cluster on it | |
| [12:41] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, we'd definitely like a web interface but for now it's just the command line really | |
| [12:42] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, I've been focused on the framework much more than the charms but as I understand it the openstack charms are in a good state | |
| [12:42] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, I should point out that it's readily scriptable | |
| [12:43] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, and I'm 99% sure that you can "juju add-unit foo -n 20" for 20 new units of foo | |
| [12:43] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, let me double-check that | |
| [12:43] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, yep, -n or --num-units | |
| [12:44] <^LoGiN^> yes i am trying to play with that to deploy in production | |
| [12:44] <^LoGiN^> juju bootstrap | |
| [12:44] <^LoGiN^> 2012-01-29 14:35:40,680 INFO Bootstrapping environment 'orchestra' (type: orchestra)... | |
| [12:44] <^LoGiN^> 2012-01-29 14:35:40,920 INFO 'bootstrap' command finished successfully | |
| [12:44] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, sweet :D | |
| [12:46] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, btw, are you familiar with the local provider? I understand not using it if you're trying to do the closest-possible thing to a real orchestra deployment, but when you're casually experimenting I think it's the most convenient way to go | |
| [12:46] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, it brings up new services in LXC containers on your local machine, so you shouldn't have to configure VMs etc | |
| [12:46] <^LoGiN^> actually i am trying to deploy smth realistic | |
| [12:46] <^LoGiN^> to make a copy on real systems | |
| [12:46] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, sounds sensible :) | |
| [12:47] <^LoGiN^> actually i have demand from customers to deploy mixed environment(openvz,kvm,lxc) | |
| [12:48] <^LoGiN^> can you tell me something about orchestra dns ? | |
| [12:48] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, interesting, I know cobbler can work with kvm machines, that's what I developed against | |
| [12:49] <^LoGiN^> how does it work | |
| [12:49] <^LoGiN^> where machine names are added | |
| [12:49] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, ...heh, probably not, I'm afraid I'm really not a networking guy :( | |
| [12:49] <^LoGiN^> ok | |
| [12:50] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, sorry about that | |
| [12:50] <^LoGiN^> np, | |
| [12:50] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, #ubuntu-server may be your best bet there | |
| [12:50] <^LoGiN^> anyway thanks for steering me out of the problem | |
| [12:50] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, a pleasure, glad to help :) | |
| [12:54] <^LoGiN^> by the way do you know what can be the issue ? | |
| [12:54] <^LoGiN^> stic | |
| [12:54] <^LoGiN^> <^LoGiN^> to make a copy on real systems | |
| [12:54] <^LoGiN^> <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, sounds sensible :) | |
| [12:54] <^LoGiN^> <^LoGiN^> actually i have demand from customers to deploy mixed environment(openvz,kvm,lxc) | |
| [12:54] <^LoGiN^> * rog вийшов (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | |
| [12:55] <^LoGiN^> juju status | |
| [12:55] <^LoGiN^> 2012-01-29 14:54:28,813 INFO Connecting to environment. | |
| [12:55] <^LoGiN^> 2012-01-29 14:54:34,274 ERROR Invalid host for SSH forwarding: ssh: Could not resolve hostname oneiric01.openstack.lan: Name or service not known | |
| [12:55] <^LoGiN^> Cannot connect to machine MTMyNzgzMzQwNS45Nzg3NDg1MS42MjQ1NTY (perhaps still initializing): Invalid host for SSH forwarding: ssh: Could not resolve hostname oneiric01.openstack.lan: Name or service not known | |
| [12:55] <^LoGiN^> 2012-01-29 14:54:34,283 ERROR Cannot connect to machine MTMyNzgzMzQwNS45Nzg3NDg1MS42MjQ1NTY (perhaps still initializing): Invalid host for SSH forwarding: ssh: Could not resolve hostname oneiric01.openstack.lan: Name or service not known | |
| [12:56] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, hm, assuming you know that machine is installed and running... sounds like network configuration :( | |
| [12:58] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, re: mixed environment, I'm not sure how well cobbler will play with containers as opposed to VMs -- I do know that some people are using the local provider on single servers to deploy in LXC containers, but I'm not sure we really *recommend* that | |
| [12:58] <^LoGiN^> i mean we would have 2 or 3 types of nodes | |
| [12:59] <^LoGiN^> but management will be centralised by cobbler+juju | |
| [13:01] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, understood -- and we've talked about similar use cases, but I'm afraid that it's not planned for anytime very soon | |
| [13:02] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, can I ask you to enter a bug on launchpad describing your use case? it's the best way to make sure it gets proper visibility | |
| [13:02] <^LoGiN^> anyway it would be very interesting for optimal resource distribution | |
| [13:02] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, definitely agreed | |
| [13:03] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, one thing that's definitely on our minds (although certainly not in time for 12.04 sadly) is machine sharing by using containers | |
| [13:03] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, I'm not au fait with the details but I understand that the networking is the really tricky bit there | |
| [13:04] <^LoGiN^> very useful thing for extreme fast service rollouts) | |
| [13:04] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, we will have "subordinate charms" by 12.04, which are "helper" services (sharing machines *without* segregation), but I don't think that really addresses your use case | |
| [13:05] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, definitely | |
| [13:06] <^LoGiN^> first of all i need to understand how could it be used i real application world | |
| [13:06] <^LoGiN^> for now it is still blurry | |
| [13:15] <fwereade_> ^LoGiN^, I'm not sure how best to help there -- I rather like the "it's like apt, but for whole servers" formulation, but I'm not sure that answers your question | |
| [13:58] <grapz> fwereade_, thanks :) | |
| [16:00] <SpamapS> ssh -A clint-MacBookPro.local | |
| [16:00] <SpamapS> DOHHHH | |
| [16:31] <fwereade_> grapz, btw, just shout if you need pointers about the code | |
| [17:08] <hspencer> SpamapS, thanks for the response | |
| [17:08] <hspencer> appreciate it | |
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