2012/01/04/#kubuntu.txt

[00:29] <deitarion> Has anyone else here found BasKet for KDE 4 unusably prone to freezing up?
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[00:32] <deitarion> Until recently, I was on a Gentoo box where running the KDE 3.5 version was easy, but now I'm on Lubuntu and BasKet for KDE 4 is unusable, Trinity's PPA is broken, and it's been two weeks I've had to access my data using grep and vim. I'm thinking I might either write a conversion script or try to see how quickly I can whip up a competing tool.
[00:48] <hellslinger> deitarion: I actually just looked up basKet, looks like a really great program
[00:50] <deitarion> hellslinger: It's an excellent program. I just prefer to stick with the KDE 3 version and I'm VERY glad that lack of manpower kept the KDE 4 version from getting invasive UI surgery that would've detracted from what I like.
[00:50] <hellslinger> deitarion: hmm, I'm sorry to hear that as I'm quite partial to KDE4
[00:51] <hellslinger> I've been looking for a tool exactly like basket for a long time, actually
[00:51] <deitarion> If the KDE 4 version weren't so prone to freezing on my system (could, for all I know, be an incompatibility with the data I brought over from KDE 3), I'd probably use it without issue.
[00:52] <deitarion> Well, aside from some UI padding here and there which annoys me because the KDE 3 version lacks it and it's wasteful.
[00:53] <hellslinger> KDE 4 has been rock solid for me since about 4.5, then again, I'm not doing the same things you are doing
[00:53] <hellslinger> UI padding? are you referring to oxygen widgets putting space between widgets and views?
[00:54] <deitarion> hellslinger: I'm referring to stuff like URL notes being taller, despite not needing extra vertical room to represent the same information in the same fonts with the same 16x16px icons.
[01:36] <randomatix> basket the note app?
[02:12] <deitarion> Yeah
[02:13] <deitarion> One of my BasKets freezes the KDE 4 version when I switch to it and, since I can't figure out where it stores "basket to show on startup", it's useless to me now.
[02:14] <deitarion> I'm currently trying to figure out the simplest way to build a KDE 3 BasKet chroot from my Porteus LiveUSB setup. (Not an easy thing, given that QEmu doesn't like me, Porteus's setup is built from a UnionFS overlay, and it's a pain to mount a VirtualBox image so I can copy the files out with `cp -rav`.
[02:15] <randomatix> good app otherwise?  seemed very mouse-intensive when I last looked at it
[02:16] <deitarion> randomatix: Depends how you use it. It does have tons of keyboard shortcuts but I find myself liking it because it's one of the only apps I've found which lets me do almost everything using ONLY the mouse.
[02:17] <deitarion> (eg. Middle-click-paste on the right-hand end of a note's upper or lower border to group the newly-pasted note with the clicked one)
[02:18] <randomatix> deitarion: hmmm.  I endet up sticking with zim.  may need to check it again
[02:18] <deitarion> I found that tools like Zim simply don't scale to the quantity of data I needed to work with.
[02:19] <deitarion> Both in number of baskets and amount of content within them, both structured and unstructured.
[02:20] <deitarion> Heck, before I migrated one of my baskets (fanfiction quotes) out, I was pushing the limits of BasKet's custom Qt widget. (I had over 6000 quotes in one basket and the find-as-you-type filter was lagging the whole GUI like Firefox with a badly-written extension after a week of uptime)
[02:21] <deitarion> Depending on how you use it, you may want to also explore TiddlyWiki. For stuff more inherently Wiki-friendly, that's what I use these days.
[02:22] <deitarion> For example, here's one of mine that's publicly-shared --> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14610481/story_ideas.html
[02:26] <randomatix> nice.  may have a use for that.
[02:27] <deitarion> Feel free to ask me if there are any tweaks or plugins you need. I'm getting pretty good at making TiddlyWiki do just about anything but dance a jig. http://blog.ssokolow.com/contact/
[02:28] <deitarion> (I'll probably find them rather than write them, but only because it's much quicker and easier for me)
[02:29] <randomatix> how would it be for program-generated content?
[02:29] <deitarion> Define "program-generated".
[02:31] <deitarion> You can adjust just about anything in it, but for me to say anything more concrete than that, I'd need an example of what you're trying to do.
[02:31] <randomatix> code that spews tables of data.  would be nice to have some structure.
[02:32] <deitarion> Into a single "tiddler" or spread across multiple tiddlers? Embedded by hand or automatically?
[02:33] <deitarion> If you're embedding by hand into a single tiddler, for example, then the main concern is making sure it understands whatever markup you're putting the table into.
[02:34] <deitarion> That's solved easily, since TiddlyWiki supports pluggable formatters and also lets you embed stretches of raw HTML in <html></html> blocks.
[02:34] <randomatix> I need to rtfm on this
[02:34] <deitarion> If you want to have the data inserted automatically, there are basically two approaches.
[02:35] <deitarion> You can either use a TiddlyWiki plugin which automatically pulls content from a URL and updates itself...
[02:35] <deitarion> ...or you can have something else slice and dice your TiddlyWiki from the outside. There are two ways to do that:
[02:36] <deitarion> 1. TiddlyWiki is developed as a set of individual files and they have tools to explode a TiddlyWiki into a bunch of editable files and then combine them back into a single HTML file again.
[02:36] <deitarion> 2. TiddlyWiki markup is clean and simple. If you or someone you know has any programming experience, you can easily use an HTML library to alter the contents of pages from the outside.
[02:37] <deitarion> As for RTFM, I'd start with the "Development Resources" section of my TiddlySpace site --> http://ssokolow.tiddlyspace.com/
[02:38] <deitarion> The top entry is a link to the TiddlyWiki website with the two main entry points for help opened.
[02:47] <randomatix> deitarion: thx for all that info.  I stuck it in a zim note ;)
[02:50] <randomatix> deitarion: for copying to VirtualBox, why use mount & cp rather than something like sftp or Unison?
[03:06] <deitarion> randomatix: It hadn't occurred to me. I rarely remember that VirtualBox exposes the host system to the guest at something like 10.0.0.2.
[03:10] <randomatix> deitarion: Unison is good for keeping dir trees in sync
[03:11] <deitarion> I know. I set it up between my mother's desktop and her laptop.
[03:11] <deitarion> In this case, though, I'd just use rsync once to get the result of a stack of UnionFS overlays out of Porteus and into a chroot on my desktop.
[03:12] <deitarion> No point in using Unison if Ubuntu makes it impossible to keep /dev/sdh1 chowned or chmodded readable to a non-root VirtualBox.
[03:13] <deitarion> (Something in the default Lubuntu load-out is polling the device nodes every few seconds and resetting their permissions)
[03:14] <deitarion> ...and I don't want to give myself raw access to EVERY disk devnode by adding myself to the "disk" group.
[03:16] <deitarion> Perfect security theatre. Looks intimidating, but only prevents the exploits of opportunity.
[03:17] <randomatix> protection against rookie mistakes, perhaps?
[03:32] <deitarion> True, but a proper fix would protect against all cases. For example, a kernel module to disallow changing permissions in certain ways.
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[06:51] <aaron__> Hi, I am planning to remaster Kubuntu with kde 4.7.95, flash, broadcom drivers, chromium, and remove the netbook interface, and set kde, and dolphin options and plasmoids, and install a few games, and nvidia and ati drivers... and codecs... I am trying UCK, but am getting stuck with an initfilesystem error.
[06:54] <jschall> when I connect my bluetooth headphones and set them to be an audio device, they don't show up
[06:54] <jschall> not in pavucontrol, not in kmix
[06:55] <aaron__> jschall: can you use them for anything else?
[06:55] <jschall> aaron__: what do you mean?
[06:56] <aaron__> jschall: nevermind,
[06:56] <jschall> aaron__: options are "connect to the audio service," or "do not initialize any service"
[06:58] <aaron__> jschall: so you went to system settings, multimedia-phonon?
[06:58] <jschall> aaron__: no, this is when connecting in system settings -> bluetooth
[06:59] <jschall> aaron__: they show up in the device priority list in multimedia/phonon but are greyed out
[06:59] <jschall> aaron__: i tried restarting pulse, no good
[06:59] <aaron__> jschall: try going to the audio settings... my computer was sending audio to HDMI even tho nothing was connected, and it was not easy to find it what I needed to do
[06:59] <jschall> aaron__: odd because they've worked perfectly before on a different computer
[07:00] <aaron__> jschall: did you go to the audio hardware setup tab?
[07:00] <jschall> aaron__: yes
[07:00] <jschall> aaron__: they don't show up there
[07:00] <jschall> aaron__: they don't show up in pulse
[07:00] <jschall> aaron__: they don't show up in aplay -l
[07:01] <aaron__> jschall: lol have you tried rebooting?
[07:01] <jschall> aaron__: yes
[07:02] <aaron__> jschall: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[07:02] <randomatix> jschall: in pavucontrol, does it show up in the Configuration tab in the Profile pulldown?
[07:02] <jschall> 11.10
[07:02] <aaron__> jschall: did you try any of the stuff for older versions? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[07:02] <jschall> randomatix: no it does not
[07:03] <jschall> aaron__: i haven't seen that
[07:03] <randomatix> jschall: does it get an entry in  /dev/snd ?
[07:03] <jschall> aaron__: this article is for ubuntu, not kubuntu, and it says this: For Ubuntu 10.10 and later, it should be very simple: Go to System -> Preferences -> Bluetooth and pair the Bluetooth device. Go to System -> Preferences -> Sound and select the Bluetooth device as your output device.
[07:04] <aaron__> jschall: right...  ubuntu and kubuntu share the same base... and the pactl load-module stuff might give you some fun error messages ;)
[07:04] <jschall> aaron__: and kde has its own bluetooth implementation i think
[07:07] <aaron__> jschall: If I find a headset lying arround I'd try to reproduce, but I lost 3 of them (gift to gf past, stollen, lost) gl
[07:07] <jschall> Module load failed.
[07:16] <aaron__> jschall: are you using gstreamer backend or another backend?
[07:16] <jschall> aaron__: gstreamer
[07:31] <jussi> Hrm, I have a logitech rx1000 mouse. It has the left and right tippers on the wheel, and I wanted to know how I can map those to forward and back in chrome. any takers?
[07:31] <aaron__> jussi: what have you tried?
[07:32] <jussi> aaron__: nothing, no idea where to start tbh
[07:32] <aaron__> jussi: does the system-settings  input  mice do anything?  and then you need to know what key normally makes chromium go back and forward...
[07:33] <jussi> aaron__: alt+left/right
[07:34] <jussi> aaron__: the input -> mouse has nothing for etting up shortcuts (yes, I did actually already look there)
[07:34] <aaron__> jussi: KDE has always had good shortcuts for keyboards...  for the mouse, go play with the mouse settings window for a bit.. (I have a saitek gm2 that I would like to get working similar)
[07:35] <aaron__> jussi: I used to play with this in my xorg.conf
[07:36] <aaron__> jussi: Now it is handled almost automatically, and there is some sort of udev or some other files that need to be modded
[07:36] <jussi> aaron__: Im reluctant to do that - not because I dont know how, but because xorg.conf is being depreciated and Id like to see the "real " way
[07:37] <aaron__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11572025
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[10:18] <lokifaer> hello all
[10:18] <skramer_> hi everybody.
[10:19] <atvr> he
[10:19] <atvr> hi**
[10:19] <skramer_> is it possible to scan into GIMP on Kubuntu? And how to do it?
[10:20] <Tm_T> skramer_: file -> import in gimp
[10:21] <skramer_> Tm_T: seems my GIMP does not have "Import into GIMP" :-(
[10:21] <skramer_> Tm_T: am I missing anything?
[10:22] <Tm_T> skramer_: there should be "import from scanner" or similar
[10:23] <lokifaer> I share a directory with samba and try to access it with dolphin : smb://test_machine. So I can see the shared directory, but when I try to open it, it asks me user/pass. The problem is I stay blocked on this step.
[10:23] <skramer_> Tm_T: hmm... it should be the same place where one could add screenshot, etc. right? unfortunately, there is no option to get image from scanner...
[10:24] <Tm_T> skramer_: hmmmph, I cannot remember how it works, sorry
[10:25] <lokifaer> did I do anything wrong ?
[10:25] <skramer_> Tm_T: I guess I just miss some piece of software that makes it working... ;-)
[10:31] <skramer_> I have another question: how could I sync a BlackBerry with Kontact (KDEPIM 4.7.3)?
[10:35] <skramer_> lokifaer: I guess you  have to give user/pass of that shared folder.
[10:35] <aLeSD_> hi all
[10:35] <aLeSD_> how could I switch between tabs in the kterminal ?
[10:35] <aLeSD_> by keyboard
[10:36] <lokifaer> skramer_: yes, but the window comes again and again
[10:42] <lokifaer> skramer_: it does like my password is bad but I'm sure it's good
[10:43] <skramer_> lokifaer: hmm...
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[10:44] <skramer_> lokifaer: I can´t seem to reproduce the problem, I can access shared folder by entering user/pass..
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[10:46] <skramer_> lokifaer: don´t kill me, but are you really sure that user and pass are correct?
[10:47] <lokifaer> skramer_: I'm using a VM with kubuntu. the user is test and pass is test too.
[10:47] <lokifaer> and I'm trying to access to myself..
[10:48] <lokifaer> so local and remote id/pass are the same ^^
[10:48] <lokifaer> and it is test/test
[10:49] <lokifaer> maybe the config is bad ?
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[10:57] <skramer_> lokifaer: I remember I had similar problem myself, but I don´t know ho I solved it...
[11:01] <skramer_> anybody has any hint how to sync a BlackBerry with KDEPIM?
[11:05] <lokifaer> skramer_: ok thank you ^^
[11:05] <lokifaer> nobody has an idea ?
[11:05] <lokifaer> skramer_: sorry I never had BB
[11:06] <skramer_> lokifaer: no problem ;-)
[11:12] <skramer_> lokifaer: maybe you try smb://test@test_machine/name_of_the_share
[11:12] <skramer_> lokifaer: it should also ask the pass...
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[12:36] <almoxarife> I am having a hard time with the flashplayer extension, I am on a 64bit and the thing wants to install 32bit, adobe-flash is installed but konqueror can't see it, any ideas?
[12:44] <Kronen> my computer's sound stopped working - it was working sporadically before I installed pulseaudio, now I can't get it to play anything
[12:45] <almoxarife> :)
[12:46] <almoxarife> yes you are
[12:47] <almoxarife> Kronen: do you see the hardware listed?
[12:48] <Kronen> almoxarife: lspci gives the audio controller, yeah
[12:48] <almoxarife> does kubuntu see it?
[12:49] <Kronen> listed in amarok when I choose to configure phonon
[12:49] <Kronen> almoxarife: anywhere else I should look?
[12:51] <Kronen> almoxarife: ok, that phonon config page seems to be KDE's multimedia settings page as well
[12:51] <atvr> anyone know how to jailbreak an iphone 4g ios 5.0.1 on kubuntu i have searched on google but i only find jailbreak tools for older iphone model
[12:52] <almoxarife> Kronen: it is, and it has defaults for the hardware, in case of multiple sources
[12:52] <almoxarife> atvr: why is it in jail?
[12:54] <Kronen> almoxarife: shifted the default device to the top for all categories, still no luck
[12:54] <atvr> almoxarife, i think you dont know whats jailbreak is, its a software that let you mod and idevice to make it more useful, i make it more manageble
[12:54] <almoxarife> atvr: oh, didn't know
[12:55] <atvr> almoxarife, for the first time i have learn you something :) if you want google it, you will see, its really nice for and idevice user
[12:55] <atvr> an**
[12:56] <almoxarife> atvr: I would need the phone to break, I don't have a cell phone, they are evil
[12:56] <almoxarife> Kronen: what you did with alsa, can you undo?
[12:58] <atvr> almoxarife, it seem like there is more than one cairo-dock openned, do you know what is the issue
[12:58] <almoxarife> atvr: I bought the wife a kindle-fire, that I want to jail-break
[12:58] <almoxarife> atvr: when you cold start, you have more than one?
[12:59] <atvr> almoxarife, yes, in fact there is 2 open, if i close one, the cairo-dock is ok, but i would like to know why 2 cairo-dock open
[12:59] <Kronen> almoxarife: I edited asound.conf, and removed users from the audio group - undid those, still no luck.  I also installed pulseaudio packages - not sure which packages came with it, though
[13:00] <almoxarife> atvr: there should be only one instance of cairo in the 'start-ups'
[13:01] <Kronen> erm, my default audio device is now greyed out
[13:01] <Kronen> almoxarife: ^
[13:01] <atvr> almoxarife, there is only one, the one that you made me create the other day
[13:01] <almoxarife> Kronen: if asound can be re-installed and the old confs are gone prior to, perhaps
[13:01] <almoxarife> atvr: you restarting cairo for some reason?
[13:01] <Kronen> almoxarife: not quite clear what you want me to do?
[13:02] <atvr> almoxarife, no i didnt
[13:02] <almoxarife> Kronen: remove asound, purge confs, install asound
[13:03] <Kronen> almoxarife: E: Couldn't find package asound
[13:03] <almoxarife> atvr: when I saw your desktop I also noticed multiple cairo-docks, I didn't think to much about it then, c
[13:04] <Kronen> almoxarife: remove alsa-base and alsa-utils?
[13:04] <almoxarife> asoundconf-gtk <- that it?
[13:05] <atvr> almoxarife, maybe i should delete the cairo-dock startup things that you have made me ??
[13:05] <almoxarife> Kronen: did you add that on top of pulseaudio?
[13:05] <Kronen> almoxarife: nope - no package like that in my repos
[13:05] <almoxarife> atvr: its your machine, do as you please, its just a package that can be re-installed
[13:05] <Kronen> almoxarife: nope - just thought maybe that's what your were referring to
[13:06] <almoxarife> atvr: try it, nothing to lose
[13:07] <almoxarife> Kronen: some keep a back up for a rainy day, I backup them conf's so I have a restore when I find myself in the same situation
[13:08] <atvr> almoxarife, its ok now :)
[13:09] <almoxarife> atvr: I wipe the last of my ubuntu-desktop, its running pure plasma now
[13:09] <Kronen> almoxarife: not quite sure what you mean - still not sure what packages you recommend I remove
[13:10] <Kronen> almoxarife: ah, if you're saying I should have backed up my config to be able to go back, the problem is (a) that i started on this because I wasn't happy with the sound setup, and (b) that KDE's sound setup is so fragmented that I don't even know what files are relevant and should be backed up
[13:10] <atvr> almoxarife, you mean you get rid of cairo ??
[13:11] <almoxarife> Kronen: I would undo anything you did to the sound system, if you can remember, that's my best advice, or you can try re-installing kubuntu-desktop, assuming that is what you had to begin with, it may clean itself up
[13:12] <almoxarife> Kronen: I only backup /etc and ~/
[13:12] <almoxarife> atvr: no, still have it, my system was a dual, ubuntu/kubuntu, I wiped ubuntu
[13:13] <atvr> almoxarife, okay, since i have tried kubuntu, i never want ubuntu back :)
[13:13] <almoxarife> atvr: tried that script for googling?
[13:14] <atvr> almoxarife, no didnt really have the time for that
[13:15] <jxjl> good afternoon is there any simple way, how to change gtk icon theme in kubuntu (I downloaded kfaenza icons and original gnome faenza theme, but I don't know, how to set gnome faenza for gtk apps)
[13:17] <almoxarife> jxjl: look at application appearance in system settings
[13:18] <lokifaer> skramer
[13:18] <lokifaer> is left :(
[13:18] <lokifaer> ^^
[13:19] <jxjl> almoxarife: there is only one setting panel icons - whean I set kfaenza, gtk apps still using oxygen, when I set original gnome faenza icons in kde aps are wrong
[13:20] <lokifaer> does anybody know how to see remote directories without having to type continuously the couple user/pass ? please
[13:21] <cablop> i'm starting to feel dissapointed at Kubuntu
[13:21] <cablop> it has many things on top of the kernel doing kernel things... so when they fail the system fails!!
[13:21] <cablop> it updated kio
[13:21] <cablop> so because of kio i was unable to use firefox, finish an update and so on!!
[13:21] <almoxarife> lokifaer: I use sftp, have to give it the passwords once per session
[13:22] <lokifaer> almoxarife: thanks, but I missed to specify : with samba !
[13:23] <almoxarife> cablop: good time to look at chromium, runs swell
[13:23] <almoxarife> lokifaer: yeah, with samba,
[13:24] <lokifaer> almoxarife: ok, so sftp is not for ftp protocol ?
[13:25] <almoxarife> lokifaer: sure, but at the client it looks like just another folder full of stuff, I don't think I have anything complicated set up, not that smart for it
[13:26] <almoxarife> lokifaer: we are talking with a kubuntu client right?
[13:26] <cablop> chromium isn't it cloud based?
[13:26] <lokifaer> almoxarife: yes
[13:26] <cablop> almoxarife: ^
[13:26] <lokifaer> almoxarife: ok thank you. I'll test it and i'll tell you if it is ok ^^
[13:27] <Peace-> lokifaer: http://maketecheasier.com/quick-easy-guide-to-kde-kio-slaves/2009/08/17
[13:27] <almoxarife> cablop: only if you want to use that part of it, cloud=mail
[13:27] <Peace-> lokifaer: here it says sftp
[13:27] <cablop> chromium... but this is to move a step appart of linux... but... interesting
[13:29] <almoxarife> lokifaer: the host gets a sftp installed, mine is a ubuntu 11.04, no changes to conf's, the client points to the host ip/port/user/pass, client creates wallet for sftp login, cake
[13:29] <almoxarife> lokifaer: and I am talking about using 'dolphin' not filezilla or anything else
[13:30] <almoxarife> cablop: I have used chromium now for ???????, its rock stable and fast!
[13:31] <atvr> almoxarife, faster then firefox ??
[13:32] <lokifaer> almoxarife: ok
[13:32] <lokifaer> almoxarife: so sftp is a default installed software ?
[13:32] <almoxarife> lokifaer: with the sync option on, you don't even keep any config at the machine, any machine, it configs from the cloud
[13:32] <almoxarife> lokifaer: yes, at the host(where the files are you want)
[13:33] <almoxarife> lokifaer: I am assuming the host is ubuntu/kubuntu I guess
[13:33] <almoxarife> atvr: much faster than firefox
[13:34] <lokifaer> to start, I try to access to myself
[13:34] <lokifaer> host and remote are the same
[13:34] <atvr> almoxarife, ok thanks for the info i will give it a try :)
[13:35] <lokifaer> if I type smb://machine, it connects, I can see the shared directory but I can't open it. it asks always user/pass even if I type them.
[13:35] <cablop> almoxarife: hmmm... but i use firefox and chrome together.. i looked the problem, it is not firefox problem, it is kde one, it is saying it cannot recognized the file: protocol so it is not able to open the profile
[13:35] <lokifaer> if I type sftp://machine, It tells me refused connection
[13:35] <almoxarife> lokifaer: host(remote) same meaning, c
[13:35] <Torch> lokifaer: sftp needs an openssh server running
[13:36] <lokifaer> sorry I would like to say : local and remote
[13:36] <lokifaer> are the same
[13:36] <almoxarife> Torch: yes, it does
[13:37] <Kronen> almoxarife: I can't reinstall kubuntu-desktop - it's a laptop with a broken screen, using a remote screen, and if I have to restart X I might not be able to get the screen working again.  I've undone everything I can think of - the default device is still grayed out, and the sound is still not working
[13:38] <almoxarife> Kronen: broken screen? literal or broke X?
[13:39] <Kronen> almoxarife: inverter problems - so physical hardware issue
[13:40] <almoxarife> Kronen: remote into the laptop, same same, or ssh
[13:40] <Kronen> almoxarife: sure, but i need the X for eclipse, browser, etc.
[13:40] <almoxarife> Kronen: don't know what to tell you,good luck
[13:41] <Kronen> almoxarife: thx for the time
[13:41] <almoxarife> Kronen: :)
[13:41] <Kronen> anyone else with help on debugging sound problems in kubuntu?
[13:41] <lokifaer> Torch: is there an existing openssh server on kubuntu ?
[13:42] <Torch> lokifaer: sure. you should find it in your preferred package manager under that name.
[13:43] <almoxarife> openssh-server <-- lokifaer
[13:44] <lokifaer> Torch,almoxarife : thx
[13:44] <almoxarife> I take that back, even simpler 'ssh' lokifaer
[13:51] <lokifaer> almoxarife: it seems it works
[13:51] <lokifaer> I installed openssh-server with apt-get
[13:51] <lokifaer> after that, sftp://machine with Dolphin give me access to root directory of machine
[13:51] <almoxarife> lokifaer: cool, I put up 'ssh' a bit late, that is the one I installed, but its all the same animal
[13:52] <lokifaer> ;-)
[13:52] <almoxarife> lokifaer: sort of simple to use once all the pieces are in place
[13:52] <lokifaer> sorry, I don't understand
[13:53] <almoxarife> lokifaer: it seems complicated, but it is not
[13:53] <lokifaer> yeah
[13:54] <lokifaer> but if I understand well, I need a special program if I want to use ssh with a windows computer isn't it ?
[13:54] <almoxarife> lokifaer: no, 'putty'
[13:55] <almoxarife> lokifaer: I don't know that a windows file browser can repeat the steps dolphin does, but it should
[13:56] <almoxarife> lokifaer: for straight forward ssh to the host fffrom a win machine  I would use 'putty' once configured its point click and a password
[13:57] <lokifaer> I will test it
[13:57] <lokifaer> almoxarife: and it doesn't explain why samba doesn't work
[13:57] <lokifaer> almoxarife: ok, but I need putty
[13:57] <lokifaer> it's strange
[13:58] <almoxarife> lokifaer: samba does work, if configured to work
[13:58] <lokifaer> I wanted to say : it doesn't work for me ^^
[13:58] <almoxarife> lokifaer: but this is much easier and secure
[13:59] <Torch> lokifaer: configuring samba correctly is hard. if you can avoid it, don't bother with it.
[13:59] <lokifaer> it works for local networks only or with remote network too ?
[13:59] <Torch> lokifaer: sftp works everywhere where there's an ssh server.
[14:00] <almoxarife> lokifaer: remote to the moon if you like
[14:00] <Torch> lokifaer: that usually (but not necessarily) includes all unix machines
[14:00] <lokifaer> Torch: ok, you're a sweet guy ^^
[14:00] <Torch> lokifaer: thank you ;-)
[14:00] <almoxarife> lokifaer: you a gilr?
[14:00] <almoxarife> girl?
[14:00] <lokifaer> almoxarife: no, why ?
[14:01] <almoxarife> lokifaer: not native english speaker?
[14:01] <lokifaer> I look like a girl ?
[14:01] <lokifaer> yes I french
[14:01] <almoxarife> lokifaer: I can't tell
[14:01] <lokifaer> my english level is bad :(
[14:02] <almoxarife> lokifaer: the term of endearment 'sweet' is reserved for man to woman, in english, generally, that's all
[14:02] <lokifaer> ah ok
[14:02] <lokifaer> and to say it from man to man, what is the good sentence ?
[14:02] <almoxarife> lokifaer: I see the meaning, perhaps ' good/nice/great/'????
[14:03] <lokifaer> a gentleman ? :P
[14:03] <almoxarife> lokifaer: there is a sexual connotation associated with 'sweet'
[14:03] <lokifaer> oh sorry Torch
[14:03] <almoxarife> lokifaer: gentleman ??? formal?
[14:04] <almoxarife> lokifaer: I am also a non native english speaker , just had practice
[14:04] <lokifaer> where are you from ?
[14:04] <almoxarife> the azores, but long ago
[14:05] <lokifaer> I don't know where it is ^^ and now where do you live ?
[14:05] <almoxarife> lokifaer: snohomish county WA, USA
[14:05] <lokifaer> ok
[14:06] <almoxarife> I am not impressed with the webbrowser rekonq what so ever, but it at least accepted the 64bit flash from adobe
[14:08] <lokifaer> almoxarife: do you know if I can (and how) share my cdrom drive with a win machine ?
[14:09] <almoxarife> lokifaer: I want to do that with my ps3, and no I don't, but I bet there is a way, googled it yet?
[14:10] <lokifaer> I started to search, but that I found disappointed me..
[14:10] <lokifaer> it seems, linux with linux is easy
[14:10] <lokifaer> windows to windows I know
[14:10] <lokifaer> cd from win to linux I think it is the same
[14:11] <lokifaer> but from linux to windows, that I read, said it is impossible
[14:11] <lokifaer> but I usually say : nothing is impossible in IT ^^
[14:12] <almoxarife> lokifaer: is it possible to make it a 'share'
[14:13] <almoxarife> lokifaer: you don't mean control the play buttons, I assume you mean get the files off of one?
[14:14] <lokifaer> I mean, see the content of the cd or dvd as it would be a simple directory
[14:15] <Kronen> my sound is working on my laptop now, however, when I try to test my USB headphones in KDE's multimedia settings, they don't work
[14:16] <undefined0> how do i enable the minimize button?
[14:16] <Kronen> also, they don't work if i try to test them in skype as well
[14:18] <lokifaer> Kronen: did you verify your headphones with another sound source ?
[14:18] <lokifaer> ;-)
[14:19] <Kronen> lokifaer: they were working earlier
[14:19] <Kronen> lokifaer: I can't get anything to play through them at the moment
[14:20] <undefined0> how do i enable the minimize button? i installed kubuntu on my netbook and enabled plasma-desktop
[14:25] <Kronen> lokifaer: ok, they're working on another computer (a mac)
[14:27] <thanatoid> /msg x help
[14:31] <lokifaer> I suppose that you tried with other usb ports on your laptop
[14:31] <lokifaer> Kronen: (last post ;-))
[14:40] <ManDay> I installed qsynth and qjackctl - Does anyone know what to do to get JACK running on KUBUNTU? When I try to start it from within qjackctl I get errors!
[14:50] <almoxarife> ManDay: try this    sudo apt-get install jackd qjackctl
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:10] <g0th> hi
[15:10] <g0th> I can't record any audio
[15:10] <g0th> and when I use the flashplugin I cannot use any other audio at the same time
[15:11] <g0th> somehow I don't think alsa is handled through pulse or at least I cannot use two audio applications at the same time
[15:11] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hi ... pulseaudiio victim
[15:11] <Peace-> g0th: do you need of pulse?
[15:11] <g0th> yes
[15:12] <Peace-> well it is him the pain
[15:12] <g0th> if the alternative is alsa, then yes
[15:12] <g0th> I already tried to remove it twice
[15:12] <ManDay> almoxarife: i do have the binaries
[15:12] <g0th> and each time I ran into so many trouble that I decided it is best to switch back to pulse
[15:12] <Peace-> g0th: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/audio-problem-with-kubuntu-10-10/
[15:14] <g0th> so kubuntu doesn't officially support audio recording?
[15:14] <Peace-> g0th: are you mad?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> g0th, install pavucontrol , that will give you more sources simultaneously
[15:14] <Peace-> g0th: of course you can record audio ;:S
[15:14] <g0th> the web page basically says I have to remove pulseaudio
[15:14] <g0th> pavucontrol is installed
[15:15] <BluesKaj> g0th, also paprefs
[15:15] <g0th> yes
[15:15] <Peace-> g0th: have you ffmpeg?
[15:16] <g0th> yes
[15:17] <BluesKaj> g0th, have you setup alsmixer mic and line in ctrls , make sure auto-mute is also disabled
[15:18] <Peace-> g0th:  cat /proc/asound/pcm
[15:18] <g0th> 01-00: USB Audio : USB Audio : playback 1 : capture 1
[15:18] <g0th> + some other non recording devices
[15:18] <g0th> 00-00: ALC888 Analog : ALC888 Analog : playback 1 : capture 1
[15:18] <g0th> 00-02: ALC888 Analog : ALC888 Analog : capture 1
[15:18] <g0th> 00-03: ALC888 Digital : ALC888 Digital : playback 1
[15:19] <Peace->  00-00: ALC888 Analog : ALC888 Analog : playback 1 : capture 1
[15:19] <Peace-> this is your internal audio card
[15:19] <BluesKaj> g0th, use pastebin pls
[15:19] <Peace-> if you have mic you can record
[15:20] <g0th> how?
[15:20] <Peace-> g0th: ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 2 -ar 48000  -i hw:0,0   -acodec pcm_s16le -vn audio_recording.wav
[15:20] <Peace-> for the usb card \maybe a webcam
[15:20] <g0th> nothing is recorded
[15:20] <Peace-> ffmpeg -f  alsa  -ac 2 -ar 48000  -i hw:1,0   -acodec pcm_s16le -vn audio_recording.wav
[15:20] <Peace-> g0th: alsamixer -V all
[15:22] <g0th> ok that works with -ac 1
[15:22] <g0th> but it does not seem to work in flashplugin
[15:22] <Peace-> g0th: flash bug?
[15:23] <Peace-> g0th: btw have you tested your setting? for flash i mean
[15:23] <Peace-> right click on the flashplugin for example on a youtube's video
[15:23] <Peace-> and settigns
[15:23] <g0th> I know what you mean
[15:23] <g0th> it never worked nicely for me
[15:23] <g0th> also skype is not working
[15:24] <Peace-> for skype itì's a know bug
[15:24] <Peace-> search this on goolge
[15:24] <g0th> so far only the ffmpeg command line worked and that used alsa together with hw parameter, which is kind of completely opposite to the idea of pulse
[15:24] <Peace-> skype mic export ubuntu
[15:24] <Peace-> no problem
[15:25] <Peace-> ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -i pulse
[15:25] <Peace-> bla bla bla
[15:26] <Peace-> g0th: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/how-to-screencast/
[15:26] <Peace-> ffmpeg stuff with pulse or alsa
[15:29] <g0th> hmm
[15:29] <g0th> I just figured out a way to get skype working
[15:29] <Peace-> export ?
[15:29] <g0th> when I pick up the phone
[15:29] <Peace-> right
[15:29] <g0th> I open pavucontrol
[15:29] <g0th> it is then shown as an active recording thing
[15:30] <g0th> there I select audio adapter instead of internal audio
[15:30] <g0th> then it records properly
[15:30] <g0th> but I have to do it manually each time which makes it kind of unuseable
[15:30] <Peace-> g0th: you can install even veromix
[15:30] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-veromix
[15:30] <g0th> done
[15:31] <Peace-> add veromix to your panel now
[15:32] <g0th> this stupid panel again arg
[15:32] <g0th> I dunno how to add anything to it
[15:32] <g0th> was it unity?
[15:32] <g0th> hmm
[15:33] <Peace-> g0th: the last icon you can see in the panel click on it
[15:33] <Peace-> at the edge
[15:34] <Peace-> g0th: top right in my case http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/04/plasma-desktopYT1505.png
[15:34] <g0th> looks different for me
[15:34] <g0th> also it seems to be impossible to move the panel to the top or bottom
[15:35] <g0th> where I would actually prefer it
[15:35] <g0th> basically I can do nothing
[15:35] <g0th> I guess it is supposed to be a "feature"...
[15:35] <Peace-> g0th: right click on the panel
[15:35] <Peace-> g0th: unlock widget
[15:36] <g0th> it doesnt give me that choice
[15:37] <Peace-> g0th: post a screnshot
[15:37] <g0th> ok where?
[15:37] <Peace-> omg
[15:37] <Peace-> gooogle paste an image
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[15:42] <g0th> http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/1158/screenshotat20120104163.png
[15:43] <Peace-> hHHHAHAHAHAHAHA
[15:43] <Peace-> OMG
[15:43] <Peace-> THIS IS NOT KDE
[15:43] <Peace-> THIS IS UNITY
[15:43] <g0th> I never said I had kde
[15:44] <g0th> I said I had unity
[15:44] <Peace-> g0th: WTF YOU ARE IN #kubuntu
[15:44] <g0th> I have kubuntu
[15:44] <Peace-> you have not kubuntu
[15:44] <Peace-> you have ubuntu
[15:44] <g0th> no I have kubuntu
[15:44] <Peace-> ubuntu ===>#ubuntu
[15:44] <Peace-> ubuntu = unity
[15:44] <Peace-> kubuntu = kde
[15:44] <Peace-> that's all
[15:44] <g0th> that's not true
[15:45] <Peace-> ok man good luck
[15:45] <g0th> you can also have gnome
[15:45] <g0th> anyway
[15:45] <g0th> I have all the kubuntu audio settings
[15:45] <Peace-> !topic
[15:45] <ubottu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[15:45] <g0th> so for audio issues this is a kubuntu matter
[15:46] <Peace-> here we don't support unity interface
[15:46] <Peace-> this is clear?
[15:46] <g0th> but in ubuntu they told me to come here
[15:46] <g0th> because it is a kubuntu issue
[15:46] <Peace-> you are not using kde
[15:46] <Peace-> so no support.
[15:46] <g0th> isn't unity just about the desktop envirenment?
[15:47] <g0th> I installed a different one
[15:47] <g0th> because kde is broken for me
[15:47] <g0th> somewhere during the update something got messed up
[15:47] <g0th> so I installed this different desktop envirenment
[15:47] <Peace-> your question was.. i can't record audio or something like that
[15:48] <g0th> yes, audio recording in flash plugin and skype doesnt work
[15:48] <Peace-> you are using unity
[15:48] <g0th> is audio handled through unity somehow?
[15:48] <g0th> not kde stuff?
[15:48] <Peace-> i can't even help you because i don't know unity
[15:48] <g0th> because e.g. I don't have gnome-audio-control
[15:48] <g0th> or whatever its called
[15:48] <Peace-> none here will help you because you have unity
[15:48] <Peace-> unity uses different tools
[15:49] <g0th> oh
[15:49] <g0th> ok so I should ask in ubuntu again
[15:49] <Peace-> you have to say
[15:49] <Peace-> i have unity here ...
[15:49] <Peace-> and audio doesn't work
[15:49] <g0th> ok thanks for the help
[15:49] <Peace-> ubuntu kernel+ unity = ubuntu
[15:49] <Peace-> kubuntu ?= ubuntu kernel + kde
[15:51] <g0th> ok, I thought it was still "mainly" kubuntu"
[15:51] <g0th> I dunno what exactly gets changed and what not
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[16:02] <g0th> hmpf, they all have no clue there (atm) anyway, thanks for the help
[16:07] <Peace-> g0th: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/04/plasma-desktopsi1505.png
[16:07] <Peace-> that is for flahs
[16:15] <g0th> I don't get this context menu
[16:15] <g0th> hmm sorry I do
[16:15] <g0th> but
[16:15] <g0th> "Settings" is grey, not black
[16:16] <Peace-> g0th: i dunno you have a bad installation then
[16:16] <Peace-> somethign of very wrong
[16:17] <g0th> everything else works though
[16:17] <g0th> I finally figured out a huge piece of information
[16:17] <g0th> .asoundrc was still present
[16:17] <g0th> with
[16:17] <g0th> hw=0,3 for pcm default
[16:18] <g0th> once I removed the file skype works
[16:18] <g0th> I guess the update forgot to take care of such things
[16:24] <luz> il ya quelqun
[16:24] <luz> non?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> !fr | luz
[16:31] <ubottu> luz: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
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[16:45] <lokifaer> good evening everybody
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[17:25] <Gerald> hi how can i upgrade kubuntu 10.0.4 to the newest version using apt-get ?!
[17:32] <soee> hi someone familiar with TP-link cards ?
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[18:23] <Linkmaster> How to you put wicd-kde on kubuntu 11.10?
[18:31] <molnar> ffff
[18:31] <molnar> hy
[18:31] <molnar> how are you?
[18:31] <isemenov> hello guys!
[18:31] <isemenov> Happy New Year!
[18:32] <isemenov> I'm interested in the Project Neon.
[18:32] <isemenov> on this page:
[18:32] <molnar> happy new year
[18:32] <isemenov> https://launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive/ppa
[18:32] <molnar> :-)
[18:32] <isemenov> it is indicated that the project has been dead since 2009--12-10.
[18:32] <isemenov> is that true?
[18:33] <Linkmaster> isemenov: #project-neon
[18:34] <isemenov> Linkmaster: ty :)
[18:35] <Linkmaster> welcome
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[18:51] <soee> hi
[18:51] <soee> Riddell, already working on RC2 ?
[18:58] <danielo> Hey
[18:58] <danielo> everybody
[18:59] <danielo> I am looking for help about suspend2disk in kubuntu
[18:59] <danielo> is there anyone who could help?
[19:03] <danielo> Hello Is there anyone??/
[19:04] <danielo> I got problem with hibernating system
[19:04] <danielo> It dosent work
[19:09] <Riddell> soee: yes, is it announced yet?
[19:09] <Riddell> danielo: that is unlikely to be a KDE specific problem so you can also try asking in #ubuntu or other general ubuntu places
[19:10] <danielo> Riddell, why You think that is kde issue???
[19:10] <danielo> I am putting that to comandline
[19:10] <danielo> s2disk
[19:12] <Riddell> I think that is not a KDE issue
[19:19] <danielo> So where should I ask???
[20:02] <igor__> hfffflhfl
[20:03] <kubus_> mrb
[20:03] <igor__> пишу через виртуалбокс
[20:03] <igor__> и через убунту
[20:04] <kubus_> türkçe bilen varmı :)
[20:04] <igor__> нихрена не понимаю...
[20:04] <igor__> русские есть в городе?
[20:04] <maco> !ru
[20:04] <ubottu> Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.
[20:05] <igor__>  /join #ubuntu-ru
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[20:43] <jschall> I'm looking for a way to synchronize files between a local and a remote (sftp) directory, moving newer files both ways. Is this possible in dolphin? if not, how should it be done?
[20:45] <ncnifrajstari> which is the default gtk+ font in newest kubuntu
[21:07] <linux4u> hi
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[21:08] <linux4u> anyone here know anything about the paste plasmoid? I have googled around but cant find what language this is in %{date()} and %{password(8)}
[21:09] <linux4u> I would like to make my own text snippets but I have tried php and javascript data commands but get nothing.
[21:36] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm having trouble connecting to a VPN using OpenVPN and knetwork manager.  Kubuntu 11.10.
[21:36] <Crell> I have it configured correctly, I think, using keys that worked previously using Suse and Gnome's network manager applet.
[21:37] <Crell> But when I click the icon to connect to the VPN record I created, nothing happens.  No error, no connection, nothing.
[21:39] <Crell> How do I debug it?  Or is knetwork manager still not worth using with vpns?  (In previous versions the recommendation I got was "don't bother, use nm-applet from gnome instead").
[21:44] <SunTsu> Crell: look into /var/log/syslog, there should be info in it, grep for openvpn
[21:45] <Crell> failed to execute child process, /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-openvpn-service, no such file or directory.
[21:45] <Crell> Missing dependency?
[21:47] <Crell> huh.
[21:47] <Crell> network-manager-openvpn is not installed.  aptitude lists its status as "c".  What does c mean?
[21:47] <SunTsu> that probably can be found in the man page. I don't use aptitude
[21:50] <Crell> man page is predictably useless.
[21:50] <Crell> Although aptitude why-not shows that network-manager-openvpn conflicts with network-manager-openvpn.
[21:50] <Crell> ...
[21:50] <Crell> That seems wrong.
[21:51]  * Linkmaster points out the obvious: maybe a broken package
[21:52] <Crell> So it would seem...
[21:52] <Crell> How/where do I follow up on that?
[21:53] <Linkmaster> Crell: try to reinstall it
[21:55] <Crell> Hm, it installs directly.
[21:55] <Crell> Now I'm getting different errors in the log.  yay!
[22:23] <linux4u> hi! anyone here know anything about the paste plasmoid? I have googled around but cant find what language this is in %{date()} and %{password(8)}