2011/09/15/#kubuntu.txt

[00:00] <George_> Hola :)
[00:01] <George_> -waiting for support reply-
[00:02] <hippo> ask your question and someone will answear u
[00:04] <George_> Oka n_n
[00:06] <George_> It says...
[00:06] <riff> how do you set up sphere in kwin?
[00:06] <claydoh> SubCool: you create a 64bit live disk from a 64bit iso image, doesn't matter if you are running 32 or 64. the iso is what you need  to be 64 bit
[00:07] <George_> Media change: please insert the disc labeled: Kubuntu 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ -Release i386
[00:07] <SubCool> claydoh, k- ill just dl another ISO
[00:08] <George_> In the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter
[00:08] <George_> And I don't have wifi -driver needed- and it's in the USB install
[00:14] <George_> Fine I'll install the package a la Slackware, by installing the deps manually
[00:18] <SubCool> can i boot off an ubuntu 9.04 disk and install 11.04via usb?
[00:18] <SubCool> kubuntu 11.04
[00:23] <claydoh> SubCool: you need  to boot from the version  you want to install, else install an old version and attempt multiple upgrades
[00:23] <SubCool> claydoh, ya, multiple upgrades doesnt go over very well..
[00:24] <SubCool> damn laptop wont boot from the USB
[00:24] <claydoh> SubCool: if you are having problems with the live disk, you might try the alternate disc, which is text-based
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[00:34] <SubCool> got the usb working.. i tihnk..
[00:34] <SubCool> got it
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[00:52] <akSeya> hello folks.. i'm having some problem here on my dad's notebook.. it's running kubuntu 11.04 and I have just upgraded all packages... still everytime I boot, it asks for the wireless password
[00:53] <akSeya> when I manage the connections, the SSID is saved and on it's properties the password is stored
[00:53] <akSeya> but it still asks on every book for the password
[00:54] <akSeya> on my notebook, same kubuntu version and same packages it does not ask for the password.. what am I missing here?
[00:58] <akSeya> the same happens when he uses his work wifi
[01:02] <akSeya> well.. it's kind of late.. going to try to solve it another day...
[01:02] <akSeya> thanks anyway
[01:20] <SubCool> hey, what do we use to benchmark?
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[04:10] <lee__> hello, i am jsut wondering how to back up all my settings in case I need to restore my system and also if Kbackup will do what I need it to do?
[04:11] <lee__> Seeing how it was a real pain in the arse to get open shot to work right lol
[04:11] <lee__> I don't want to go through that ever again
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[04:29] <IdleOne> !clone
[04:29] <ubottu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate
[04:30] <IdleOne> !separatehome
[04:30] <ubottu> Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[04:30] <bbeck> lee__: the kde settings are in ~/.kde, but some programs put settings in ~/.config or ~/.<name_of_app>
[04:30] <IdleOne> lee__: look at the info ubottu just gave.
[04:31] <lee__> oh..cool ty
[04:34] <lee__> cool...yeah i went to use Ubuntu studio and that was a nightmare lol...the crash was not pretty because ot the incorrect version of blender being used, now that I have the correct version..No More crash
[04:35] <lee__> eh but, the I cahnged over to Kubuntu
[04:35] <lee__> and stole the Studio-Video, turns out that they need to update that
[04:36] <lee__> so far i am really liking, this.... it is really nie
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[05:30] <almoxarife> I am running the newest version of plasma, not used kde before, so far things are working generally well, with a few exceptions, there are apps that normally require sudo to run that I am finding will start without the prompt for the password, I am not sure if it's a bug or some unset thing I missed, the kde version of updates and login settings to name a few
[05:31] <almoxarife> any thoughts?
[05:31] <almoxarife> btw, this is after swearing off gnome shell, I am done with it
[05:32] <almoxarife> and I am on 11.10 if it makes a diff
[05:33] <almoxarife> must be lunch time on the internet
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[05:35] <jillcee> hi
[05:36] <almoxarife> hello
[05:38] <jillcee> hi almoxarife
[05:47] <jillcee> James.. are you on tonight?
[05:49] <jillcee> is rekong a good browser?
[05:52] <avihay> almoxarife: the package manager will ask you for a password only after you actually ask it to apply the change (for which you need root authorization), or atleast that's how it's supposed to be. and 11.10 is still in the beta phase, so it might still be broken
[05:53] <almoxarife> avihay: these packages were already prompted for upgrade, that didn't work, so I tried to individually pick them, no dice their either, I am thinking something is broke, I just don't have an idea where to look
[05:54] <avihay> jillcee: well, it works. I find it kind of a memory hog, and a bit unstable, and it doesn't have the awsome array of firefox plugins (yet)
[05:55] <jillcee> so firefox is better.. (i'm running kubuntu for the first time here.. trying to figure stuff out.. no sound or video yet.)
[05:55] <almoxarife> I got into chromium when it first came out, have not left it since, although it may also be a memory hog, not sure since I don't use anything else now, its fastttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt and that's what I want
[05:56] <avihay> almoxarife: try to install some small package, see if it prompts you for a password or fails. if you are in the process of updating, then you can't do any other package operation
[05:57] <jillcee> i was told kubuntu was better then ubuntu..  (something about kde better then gnome... whatever that means..hehe)
[05:58] <avihay> firefox is different. I find chromium as kind of a memory hog too. I usually use Firefox for browsing, Chromioum for Google's services and ReKonq for face-book
[05:59] <jillcee> all i usually do on my computer is browse or watch netflix movies .. i hope kubuntu can do thatt
[06:00] <avihay> jillcee: you are working with a beta version, expect stuff to be partially broken.
[06:00] <jillcee> i bought 5 of those 11.04 disks
[06:33] <jillcee> how do you open a shell prompt ?
[06:37] <tsimpson> jillcee: open konsole
[06:40] <jillcee> i don't know how tsimpson.. sorry i'm new to this
[06:41] <jillcee> i just figured out that ctrl-alt f1 opens a black screen (similar to dos) and ctrl-alt f8 closes it
[06:41] <tsimpson> jillcee: it's in the menu, probably under "System". or just press Alt-F2 and type in "konsole"
[06:41] <tsimpson> then press return
[06:42] <tsimpson> there's no need to switch to a TTY to use the shell
[06:43] <jillcee> thank you tsimpson
[06:44] <tsimpson> :)
[06:44] <jillcee> i'm trying to figure out how to install flash player
[06:45] <jillcee> and also get sound
[06:48] <tsimpson> jillcee: installing flash is easy enough, open the package manger and install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
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[07:02] <almoxarife> kubuntu didn't recognize the mic, found the camera though, its all integrated on the laptop, any ideas?
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[07:14] <imc> hello, I want to change my *systemwide* keyboard layout (meaning console and xorg). How do I achieve that? (no, i do not have any xorg.conf)
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[10:26] <giandomenico> salve a tutti
[10:27] <giandomenico> ho un prblema con audio kmix ... non mi vede il microfono dell a webcam integrata  del mio acer5920G .... (con Unbuntu funziona benissimo mentre con Kubuntu non va)
[10:27] <giandomenico> sapete dirmi
[10:33] <OerHeks> !it | giandomenico
[10:33] <ubottu> giandomenico: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[10:37] <giandomenico> no problem I can speak english sombaby can halp mi  for audio problem?
[10:39] <jussi> giandomenico: just ask and lets see
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[10:53] <sfuhrmann> Hello all, Iwant to show how much a file is growing I tried tail -f |du -sch file but that is not working. Can someone help
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[10:58] <giandomenico> My kmix don't see webcam front microfone of my notebook acer5920G .... (in Ubuntu everything was ok)
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[12:57] <bigbrovar> are there any plan to backport kde 4.7.1 to kubuntu natty?
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[12:59] <Guest77314> привет русские есть?
[13:00] <avihay> !ru
[13:00] <ubottu> Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.
[13:23] <FlashDeluxe> hi! i did a release upgrade from lucid to natty and now i cannot login via kde. via console i can login. i get the error "a critical error occured. please look at KDMs Logfile for more information or contact your system administrator". But the kdm.log is empty oO :( Can somebody help me please?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:26] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, try the recovery kernel first . repair broken pkges , ot you may have to use nano to edit /etc/default/grub and add nomodeset to the line "quiet splash"..update-grub then reboot
[13:29] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj quiet splash is already used and it seems that there are no packages broken
[13:30] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, just add nomodeset to the quiet splass line so it looks like .... "quiet spalsh nomodeset"
[13:31] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj: ok i will try that
[13:31] <BluesKaj> err "quiet splash nomodeset"
[13:33] <iDanielSan> hi, can someone tell me where to change the startup sound in Kubuntu 10.04
[13:33] <iDanielSan> ?
[13:37] <BluesKaj> iDanielSan, look in kmenu>apps>settings>system settings>app system notifications>manage notifications >player settings
[13:38] <iDanielSan> thx
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[13:46] <iDanielSan> BluesKaj: BluesKaj i can't find it
[13:50] <iDanielSan> got it :)
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[14:35] <vivep> hi , which is the best command line email client for Kubuntu ?
[14:38] <FlashDeluxe> hi! if i login to kde, the taksbar is not loaded, can somebody give me a hint how to load it at startup?
[14:44] <Wojtulas_> hi, can i export history of chat in quassel irc in example txt file or something?
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[14:48] <avihay> Wojtulas: I imagine so
[14:49] <avihay> vivep: I've used to use pine in days past, other then that I don't know any, a stroll in a package manager (as in - not KpackageKit) should help
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[14:50] <avihay> FlashDeluxe: if you have that cashw whatchamacall it symbol on the desktop, click it, and select add default panel
[14:51] <avihay> if not you should probably run plasma-desktop from the alt-f2 run box
[14:52] <avihay> it should keep itself running after the first time
[14:52] <vivep> avihay : thanks . Alpine is rewrite of pine. Its also good as of i've heard
[14:52] <vivep> I tried to use mutt. But i donno how to integrate my email ids to that.
[14:53] <avihay> I only use web-mail, so...
[15:12] <Rich246> Hi guys, is it possible for a download or a link to all the default wallpapers of Ubuntu?... I don't have it installed so I can't get them.
[15:14] <Rich246> And Kubuntu, sorry.
[15:20] <[Relic]> Any idea how to get the special window settings to save and work properly?
[15:21] <James147> Rich246: install kdewallpapers or kde-wallpapers  also, plasma-wallpapers-addons  for extra plugins for the wallpapaers
[15:21] <[Relic]> basically trying to get konsole/bash to show up the same size and shape on every desktop it is opened on but it doesn't seem to be saving the settings or using them
[15:22] <enrico_>  - hello
[15:23] <enrico_> list!
[15:24] <James147> [Relic]: System settings > Window behaviour > window Rules... make sure there is only one entry for konsole
[15:31] <[Relic]> That doesn't work
[15:36] <BluesKaj> hmm, suddenly cdrom won't mount ..."mount: can't find /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" , I thought there was no long er any need for it to be listed , i thought hal polling was taking care of that now
[16:13] <FlashDeluxe> hi! how can i set plasma to my default environment? i always have to select it on the login screen, because if i don`t choose it, an other default environment is used :(
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[16:52] <iDanielSan> hey guys, where can i disable automatic login? I want the KDM to login. Using Kubuntu 10.04
[17:02] <BluesKaj> iDanielSan, remember system settings ? login screen , convenience tab , uncheck the passwordless logins box
[17:03] <BluesKaj> iDanielSan, for most settings  , systemsettings is your friend , add i to your panel
[17:04] <iDanielSan> thx
[17:04] <iDanielSan> i tried it before. maybe i overread something
[18:02] <antihero> How do I choose what server args KDM is passing to X?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> antihero, 'sudo service kdm start and stop' , is all I ever use
[18:04] <antihero> BluesKaj: Indeed, but I need to append the -ignoreABI command to the X server
[18:04] <antihero> so my gfx drivers dont die
[18:14] <BluesKaj> antihero, blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf , perhaps
[18:15] <ha1rtr1gg3r> hey guys, n00b here, just as a disclaimer, but im trying to boot Kubuntu 11.04 from usb drive on Acer Aspire one 552
[18:16] <ha1rtr1gg3r> it sits at an EBIOS screen with some guy named peters signature for like 10 min, then flashes clored symbols all over the screen for a few seconds and shuts down
[18:16] <ha1rtr1gg3r> any ideas?
[18:17] <ha1rtr1gg3r> sorry not shuts down, just goes to black screen
[18:17] <ha1rtr1gg3r> boot screen= "SYSLINUX 3.82 2009-06-09 EBIOS Copyright © 1994-2009 H. Peter Anvin et al"
[18:19] <PanTau> antihero, maybe you could try editing the xserverrc in /etc/X11/xinit/ with some parameters, seems like, there were some params passed...
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[18:26] <ha1rtr1gg3r> thanks for the help guys, really inspired a potential linux adopter to continue
[18:27] <ha1rtr1gg3r> at least point me towards some sort of resource to try and figure it out myself
[19:03] <elia> ciao
[19:03] <elia> list!
[20:17] <Lynoure> Any oneiric users here? #ubuntu+1 did not seem to have any awake.
[20:22] <OerHeks> hi Lynoure , i am not using 11.10 yet
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[21:23] <Guest72387> hi
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[22:07] <cher> Does anybody else experience extremely strange problems regarding the mouse lately? xwininfo: error: Can't grab the mouse.
[22:08] <cher> I can move the mouse, but if I click any of the buttons no matter where on the screen, it's only the maximize button of Quassel that responds, which was the last button I successfully used this time before the strange behavior started.
[22:10] <cher> When I move the mouse to the bottom of the screen, the bar doesn't appear. To open the KDE menu, I have to use Alt+F1. Hovering the menu then has no effect, clicking neither. I can only use the keyboard.
[22:10] <cher> The wheel doesn't respond either.
[22:16] <Babilozzo> my mouse work great and my other bluetooth mouse works on natty , all autoconfiguring , cher may try with other mouse, or check xorg.conf for unneeded parameters will make conflicts...
[22:16] <cher> The mouse hw works fine.
[22:16] <Babilozzo> lol
[22:16] <cher> xwininfo: error: Can't grab mouse - that's the pointer.
[22:17] <cher> It's a logitech mx-518. I'm using those for years successfully with Linux. And I already changed because I first doubted the batteries of my wireless Logitech Cordless MouseMan Optical.
[22:17] <cher> But xwininfo clearly says this is a software issue.
[22:18] <Babilozzo> :D maybe if you not deep searching on google for xwininfo?
[22:19] <cher> All I find on Google for now is bug reports from people with the same problem, but not solutions. Also, lots of web sites are nearly impossible to use with keyboard. Makes googling a bit hard...
[22:19] <Babilozzo> eh ouch :D
[22:20] <Babilozzo> mouse run with live cd?
[22:23] <cher> I'd have to reboot. And argl, my Chrome just quit without me doing anything. :( I was just about reading a forum that looked like it described a solution >:(
[22:23] <cher> But it points to compiz.
[22:25] <cher> Gotta restart X because the KDE control panel doesn't allow me to select anything else but the settings from the first row using the keyboard.
[22:35] <cher> Maybe I found the solution. I disabled all Copmiz stuff, then only enabled those very few things I'm really interested in. That's what someone in a forum did when he had this problem, and for him that helped.
[22:35] <Babilozzo> if you make a new account and login from it?
[22:36] <Babilozzo> sometimes per user setting will corrupt it
[22:37] <cher> I didn't change anything iirc, this is a fresh PC, fresh setup. Approx. 4 weeks old, not used a lot, and all I did is install Android SDK, IntelliJ IDEA and did some Android dev.
[22:38] <Babilozzo> ha ok if is fresh.. Im out of ideas
[22:41] <cher> The Compiz changes seemed to help. For now, like the guys on the Forums and on launchpad for Ubuntu (Unity as well as Gnome), I blame Compiz.
[22:41] <Babilozzo> but xserver control input devices , so you will try to reinstall xserver related packages
[22:42] <cher> Why? It's working now. The problem is gone after I changed Compiz.
[22:42] <Babilozzo> or or check xorg log output
[22:42] <Babilozzo> ha ok
[22:43] <Babilozzo> compiz is very bad :D
[22:43] <cher> He the logs, good idea of course, but so obvious I already checked them. When I didn't find something in the logs, I tried xev and xwininfo. That's how I found out that something messes around with the mouse in X.
[22:43] <cher> The idea of Compiz is good, but I feel like it's a bit beta still.
[22:44] <Babilozzo> well compiz sucks with some hardware configurations
[22:45] <Babilozzo> hehe :D
[22:45]  * Babilozzo hoohh!! it's too late for me, byeez!
[22:46] <meir> how do I get thw Adobe flash  player into  fire fox .. anyone please
[22:48] <cher> meir: Is flash installed?
[22:48] <meir> I am not sure
[22:48] <cher> meir: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[22:49] <cher> meir: After that, flash should work perfect in firefox, konqueror, rekonq, chrome, opera, seamonkey...
[22:49] <meir> oh , ok thanks
[22:50] <cher> meir: Currently, the flashplugin-installer updates sometimes break the symlinks, and sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer is an easy way to fix that without messing around with stuff manually.
[22:58] <cher> meir: Did it work?
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[23:03] <meir> yes , thank you , appriciated
[23:03] <meir> thank you for your help
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[23:33] <nahu> spanish?
[23:33] <DaemonFC> !es
[23:33] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[23:38] <hippo> hey i accidently deleted the place were my minimized items go how would i be about getting it back on my pannel
[23:40] <well_laid_lawn> hippo: right click the panel and add it back
[23:40] <hippo> how ?
[23:41] <hippo> like whats the thing called that holds all the minimized items
[23:41] <well_laid_lawn> hippo: what's in the menu that pops up when you right click the panel
[23:42] <hippo> add widgets add pannel  lock widgets and pannel settings and remove from pannel
[23:44] <well_laid_lawn> heh I forget what it's called, status bar or something