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[00:22] <uvirtbot> New bug: #560377 in qemu-kvm (main) "[lucid] Stuttering mouse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560377
[00:50] <GhostFreeman> Has anyone here managed to get byobu to run on Hardy?
[00:51] <Nafallo> o/
[00:51] <GhostFreeman> do I just need to pull down the deb and unpack
[00:51] <Nafallo> I use the PPA.
[00:51] <GhostFreeman> what's the PPA? Apt?
[00:51] <Nafallo> !ppa
[00:51] <ubottu> With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.
[00:52] <GhostFreeman> Thanks
[01:02] <GhostFreeman> To use ppa on hardy, do I need a launchpad account?
[02:12] <MTecknology> So it's simple and easy to upgrade from one LTS to the other?
[02:28] <KurtKraut> MTecknology, yes: just a single command and about 1gb of download.
[02:28] <MTecknology> KurtKraut: that's awsome - i didn't know it was possible :)
[02:28] <KurtKraut> MTecknology, there might be some questions asked during the processe if you have installed a packaged that has been through some deep changes.
[02:28] <JanC> well, the amount of download depends on what you have installed :P
[02:29] <KurtKraut> MTecknology, bookmark this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/installing-upgrading.html
[03:29] <limpc> hi
[03:29] <limpc> im having problems with RAID 10 and ubuntu 9.10
[03:29] <limpc> its not detecting my drives at installation
[03:29] <limpc> they're already configured as raid 10 via motherboard controller
[03:32] <pmatulis> limpc: controller not supported? what is it?
[03:33] <limpc> no, theres no actual raid controller, its more of softRAID than a real HW raid controller. however its built into the motherboard, and is handled by an AMD SB850 chipset
[03:33] <limpc> it has a raid config utility built in, i set up 4 2TB drives as RAID 10, it shows a LD of 3999.99 afterwards
[03:33] <limpc> but none of the drives show up in ubuntu's partition manager during installation
[03:36] <seurgey> Hey, im trying to set up a VPN server for my iphone using this guide http://en.dogeno.us/2009/05/setup-a-vpn-server-in-ubuntu-810-for-iphone/ and my iphone wont seem to connect
[03:37] <seurgey> ........
[03:39] <seurgey> hello/
[05:25] <the_hoser> Hi there. I'm trying to setup a quick server with apache/fcgid and I'm getting a 403 error when attempting to run my fastcgi program. no errors are landing in the error logs. Any idea what I'm missing?
[05:38] <the_hoser> figured it out
[06:09] <jetole> hey guys. Does anyone know how to setup dhcpd so that it ignores certain mac addresses. i.e. it doesn't offer them any dhcp service what so ever?
[06:34] <lifeless> jetole: I would try creating an empty pool and putting those macs in the pool; or you could use ipfilter
[06:34] <lifeless> sorry, iptables
[06:34] <lifeless> theres also a ethernet layer table/filter
[06:36] <jetole> I think you mean arptables on that comment but this isn't really something in my case that I think I want handled by the firewall but I will look into the empty pool concept
[07:39] <MTecknology> gah.. I'm trying to make one server send email to another server - both on the same lan- they don't want to listen...
[07:41] <MTecknology> I can do telnet lists.kalliki.com 25 - so the hosts file is making it resolve correctly... I'm starting to think exim is at fault but the logs may or may not agree - I'm not sure...
[07:43] <MTecknology> ok - exim logs say that the request isn't even making it to exim..
[11:56] <uvirtbot> New bug: #560603 in php5 (main) "crashes with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560603
[12:15] <mrcoodles> hello everyone im having a problem with a NIC under server 9.10 ; lspci outputs "Ethernet controller: Device 00ec:8139 (rev 10)" . any idea what to do ?
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[14:01] <persia__> Hello. I just upgraded my server to lucid, and ran into an issue with LVM devices (including root) not being automounted anymore (due to missing dm_mod). Does anyone have a pointer to nice docs that explain how I should modify my system to set up initramfs properly?
[15:55] <padhu> I want to configure mail server over intranet in ubuntu. any guidelines to configure it?
[15:57] <ScottK> padhu: There is a lot of mail server setup documentation in the Ubuntu Server Guide.
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[16:10] <RoyK^> padhu: apt-get install postfix?
[16:11] <padhu> RoyK&^: Is it enough?
[16:12] <padhu> is it require to edit .conf file before starting service?
[16:13] <guntbert> padhu: make sure it works only on the intranet and doesn't send mail to the outside
[16:13] <RoyK^> padhu: obviously that depends on what you want to do
[16:13] <guntbert> padhu: especially not mail *from* outside *to* outside
[16:14] <RoyK^> guntbert: i don't think you can configure postfix to route only to certain subnets
[16:14] <RoyK^> guntbert: heh - that's relaying
[16:14] <RoyK^> default postfix config doesn't allow for much relaying
[16:14] <padhu> My requirement is Local network only. not for outside. Users count is nearly 100
[16:15] <RoyK^> iirc default is to relay from my_networks
[16:15] <ScottK> padhu: You want more than an MTA. I'd look at the server guide.
[16:15] <RoyK^> padhu: postfix is an mta, doing transport, you might want to have imap access as well?
[16:15] <guntbert> RoyK^: yes - my concern was relaying
[16:16] <RoyK^> that's not a problem unless you do something wierd in main.cf
[16:16] <padhu> Rpyk^: any setup guide or Howto?
[16:16] <padhu> imap also wanted
[16:17] <ScottK> padhu: It's in the server guide.
[16:17] <ScottK> See help.ubuntu.com
[16:17] <guntbert> padhu: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[16:18] <padhu> ScottK: Link please
[16:18] <guntbert> padhu: you can replace the version number ... :)
[16:18] <ScottK> padhu: guntbert just gave you the link for 8.04. Make sure you get the version for what you are running.
[16:19] <padhu> Thank you
[16:19] <padhu> Any version, but only ubuntu
[16:20] <padhu> most of people point me other flavours. But i want ubuntu
[16:20] <RoyK^> padhu: if you want a full-grown email system, take a look at zimbra
[16:21] <RoyK^> easy to setup and manage, but it works best on a dedicated system (or VM)
[16:23] <padhu> oh, is it possible to setup for local network?
[16:24] <_Dok_> I think about ubuntu server for my new server. I read, that 9.10 is maintained until 2011. Is it possible to update the server 2011 remote?
[16:25] <padhu> RoyK^: any guide or link?
[16:25] <ScottK> _Dok_: Yes.
[16:25] <guntbert> _Dok_: if you wait a bit and install 10.04 - that is LTS too - so you get a very long support
[16:26] <_Dok_> 10.4?
[16:26] <ScottK> It will be released on April 29.
[16:26] <_Dok_> when will 10.4 been released?
[16:28] <RoyK^> padhu: zimbra.com
[16:29] <RoyK^> padhu: otherwise will google.com help you quite efficiently
[16:29] <padhu> THanjk you :-)
[16:29] <padhu> google is good partner for search ;-)
[16:30] <ScottK> RoyK^: Generally we try to help use Ubuntu Server here. I'm not sure why you're directing people elsewhere when it could serve their needs.
[16:31] <RoyK^> ScottK: I use zimbra on ubuntu 8.04
[16:31] <ScottK> RoyK^: Yes, but it's not part of Ubuntu.
[16:31] <RoyK^> well, still, it rocks
[16:31] <ScottK> It also does a lot of things that he didn't express an interest in.
[16:32] <RoyK^> he mostly expressed an interest in a mail system, and zimbra is easy to setup, so I mentioned it - is that so bad?
[16:32] <ScottK> It seems rather odd to jump to non-FOSS solutions when not needed on a FOSS distro support/development channel.
[16:32] <RoyK^> zimbra is gpl
[16:33] <ScottK> Parts.
[16:33] <RoyK^> the OSS zimbra is pure gpl
[16:33] <RoyK^> the closed zimbra contains more parts not under gpl
[16:33] <ScottK> In any case, Ubuntu Server pretty easily meets the needs expressed.
[16:35] <RoyK^> it does, but it seemed to me he didn't know much about linux in the first place, so setting up one of the email servers in ubuntu might be a bit of a hassle
[16:59] <_Dok_> will it possible to update from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS?
[17:01] <RoyK^> do-release-upgrade
[17:01] <RoyK^> or do-release-upgrade -d to upgrade to the beta
[17:01] <_Dok_> ic
[17:27] <jMyles> Looking for opinions: What's a good way to watch the activities of a server? cat /var/log/*.log is too intense for me, especially the firewall messages. What are some of your favorite setups?
[17:29] <Zider> logsentry
[17:29] <jMyles> Zider: never heard of it - it is a seperate package?
[17:30] <Zider> no idea if there's a package for it
[17:34] <RoyK^> no logsentry package afaics
[17:34] <RoyK^> logwatch and fwlogwatch are there, though
[17:45] <RoyK^> jMyles: logwatch looks ok
[17:50] <darksider> would it be helpful to ubuntu if i hosted a mirror of all the repositories? i livei in scotland, so it would maybe be nice to have a SCOTLAND mirror for those north of the UK border??
[17:50] <darksider> live in *
[18:17] <RoyK^> darksider: I don't see why not, but I guess a 100Mbps link would be a minimum
[18:28] <darksider> RoyK, aha..i think i could maybe get that...i will obviously be testing it out to see how well it handles MY stuff first ^_^
[18:31] <RoyK^> aren't there quite a few mirrors in the uk already?
[18:31] <RoyK^> and - does Scotland have a separate network, or is all routed through southern UK?
[18:33] <RoyK^> which reminds me I haven't been in Scotland for years
[18:33] * RoyK^ misses good Haggis with a Guinness or two
[19:03] <blacksunseven> looking for some help with a network install, any takers?
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[19:05] <lenios> blacksunseven, any problem?
[19:05] <blacksunseven> yeah, i've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet to the tee, making the appropriate changes
[19:06] <blacksunseven> but when i execute the wrapper i get the following Starting bootpd: default current directory is at /var/lib/tftpboot ... :bootpd not running
[19:07] <blacksunseven> the guide does reference inetd which was not installed, so i installed xinetd and have added bootp and tftp lines to the conf for that
[19:10] <lenios> there's an alternative with dhcp at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/install-tftp.html
[19:12] <blacksunseven> giving it a shot now
[19:13] <blacksunseven> Setting up dhcp3-server (3.1.2-1ubuntu7.1) ...
[19:13] <blacksunseven> Generating /etc/default/dhcp3-server...
[19:13] <blacksunseven> * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3 * check syslog for diagnostics.
[19:13] <blacksunseven> [fail]
[19:13] <blacksunseven> invoke-rc.d: initscript dhcp3-server, action "start" failed.
[19:17] <lenios> check syslog then
[19:17] <blacksunseven> yeah i needed to change the config file, where i am now
[19:23] <blacksunseven> http://pastebin.org/147201
[19:28] <sherr> The error is quite clear "Not configured to listen on any interfaces!"
[19:28] <sherr> You need to configure the DHCP file to listen on one of your network interfaces.
[19:34] <blacksunseven> i understand, but i'm not sure how to do that
[19:35] <RoyK^> blacksunseven: it's in the manual, and in the config file
[19:35] <RoyK^> are tee eff em
[19:36] <blacksunseven> i had tried that before saying anything
[19:36] <blacksunseven> the manual is long
[19:36] <blacksunseven> and i'm not familiar with everything in it
[19:40] <blacksunseven> cant find it
[19:41] <uvirtbot> New bug: #363877 in python-boto (main) "Deprecation Warnings when running under Python 2.6" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/363877
[19:44] <jMyles> Looking for a good way to watch logs in real time on my ubuntu server, preferably color-coded. What's the standard here? logwatch gives me a crazy bizarre output.
[19:46] <sherr> blacksunseven: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html
[19:47] <sherr> jMyles: Round my way, the standard realtime way is "tail -f /var/log/syslog" :-)
[19:47] <sherr> Alternatives (web page style) are MRTG, munin, cacti etc.
[19:49] <jMyles> sherr: Yeah, I'm using tail now, but it's a little dizzying. I'd like to have something that's color coded, perhaps that I can switch different logs on and off during operation.
[19:49] <jMyles> sherr: I'd love a beep when someone successfully SSH's, along with a bold alert of who it was and how they were authenticated
[19:50] <jMyles> sherr: Perhaps also a similar but less dramatic performance whenever a DHCP lease is given out...?
[19:51] <sherr> jMyles: Maybe that sort of stuff gets wrapped up in the "management" overlays you can get e.g. ebox. But I don't know.
[19:51] <sherr> If you want monitoring, solutions like "nagios" exist.
[19:53] <edakiri> What software can capture just the unix permissions information, including user & group and later reapply them to files? That would be useful for backup and restoration with some archive formats.
[19:55] <sherr> edakiri: "ls", "chmod" and "chown" in a script I guess. What archive formats?
[19:56] <edakiri> sherr: PAQ , 7z although I know it can be done through tar, I want a non
[19:57] <edakiri> non-solid archive & ability to selectively extract files
[20:35] <edakiri> remembered something related by SUSE. It is not a complete solution in itself. Maybe with the right 'find' parameters? http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/source/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/suse/src/permissions-2009.10.07.1653-2.1.src.rpm
[20:42] <edakiri> Yes, looks possible.
[21:32] <zomGreg> hello, I am running Karmic after upgrading from Jaunty. I'm trying to upgrade my eucalyptus install from 1.6.1 to 1.6.2. Can anyone help direct me on this?
[21:37] <Rafael_> Does anybody has experience with cwrsync?
[22:25] <KurtKraut> The Intel vPro technology has a subset called Intel AMT that allows VNC/KVM access to BIOS, allowing remote BIOS configuration, remote shutdown and even remote power up through the internet. Can this be done with Linux? All demos I see are using Windows. This is quite a good feature for servers. Is anyone here aware of that?
[22:38] <stgraber> KurtKraut: servers tend to have something better than the AMT (HP iLO or DELL drac) though AMT can be useful to manage a set of laptop and desktop in a corporate environment
[22:39] <stgraber> KurtKraut: to make the actual chipset to work, it's relatively easy, it's just a few options to set in the BIOS, you'll then be able to connect over http to the chip and shutdown/reboot/tweak some settings of your laptop/desktop
[22:40] <stgraber> KurtKraut: AFAIK the actual KVM part is done through an agent in the OS, that part doesn't work on Linux but a similar functionality could be provided by having a VNC and/or SSH server started at boot time
[22:40] <KurtKraut> stgraber, so I can purchase computers/laptops with AMT, use Ubuntu in these computers and Ubuntu at my office and I'll be able to control them remotely. AMT doesn't require Windows, right?
[22:40] <stgraber> KurtKraut: as for the actual client, you can either use your web browser or use some package in the archive to access to the serial redirect option of the AMT
[22:41] <stgraber> KurtKraut: for power on/off, reboot and serial redirection it doesn't
[22:41] <KurtKraut> stgraber, oh, that's sad :(
[22:41] <stgraber> KurtKraut: for a well integrated remote desktop (similar to having a KVM in your laptop), it'll require something to be installed in the OS
[22:42] <stgraber> so if your goal is to be able to start laptop/desktop remotely and then connect to them over SSH or VNC, amt will work well
[22:42] <KurtKraut> stgraber, what I miss the most is the hability to shutdown or power up remotely thru internet and change BIOS settings remotely.
[22:42] <KurtKraut> stgraber, for the rest, I already use SSH.
[22:42] <stgraber> though I guess you'll very likely need some management tool if you want to control more than a desktop at once (and I don't think that exists on Linux yet)
[22:42] <stgraber> KurtKraut: ok, so AMT should actually do what you're looking for
[22:43] <KurtKraut> stgraber, so AMT allows me to access a BIOS of remote machine remotely without using Microsoft Windows in my company?