2009/12/31/#xubuntu.txt

[01:09] <spanky1980> knome it's telling me that my kernal needs to be recompialed since it cannot a find linux.h file
[01:54] <keke> Hi,  I've installed xubuntu and now get this error in Movie Player when I try to play a dvd:Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file.
[01:56] <keke> well thought I'd try this irc but it seems like noone uses it for support?
[02:01] <knome> !dvd | keke
[02:01] <ubottu> keke: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:01] <djura-san> hey knome do you know any gtk dropbox for wget?
[02:01] <djura-san> gwget is not working (drag n drop)
[02:01] <knome> nope :)
[02:01] <djura-san> okay
[02:02] <Balsaq> knome!
[02:02] <knome> Balsaq, ;]
[02:03] <Balsaq> got a mouse on a parachute now
[02:04] <keke> ubottu -the links you sent: thats how I set up the dvd with all the correct codecs etc. now I get the error I posted
[02:04] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:04] <knome> Balsaq, parachute?
[02:05] <knome> np: Coldplay / Parachutes
[02:05] <Balsaq> yeah that xubuntu mouse i drew...i have him on a parachute....still workin on it
[02:06] <knome> okay
[02:06] <Deviouz> keke, you should install libdvdcss2
[02:07] <keke> deviouz: I did already
[02:07] <Deviouz> are you sure you are not in the guest acount or something?
[02:09] <keke> yep admin access
[02:09] <Deviouz> and you have installed the restricted extras?
[02:09] <keke> yep
[02:09] <Deviouz> what played are you using?
[02:09] <knome> spanky1980, hmm, installing the kernel modules (and probably running the vmware configuration again) should work
[02:09] <Deviouz> wich
[02:10] <Deviouz> can you please try vlc
[02:10] <keke> totem
[02:10] <keke> I'll try vlc again
[02:11] <Deviouz> and you should probaly check so the dvd is ok
[02:11] <Deviouz> try another dvd
[02:11] <Deviouz> just to be sure
[02:11] <knome> keke, you might also need libdvdread3 and libdvdnav4
[02:12] <keke> just found this on forumsudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh, tried vlc and its working! thanks for hanging in there with me!
[02:12] <knome> keke, yep, that actually *installs* css
[02:13] <keke> hmm as a newbie wouldnt that be part of codecs install?
[02:13] <knome> well, i agree it should
[02:13] <knome> but that's not how it goes
[02:13] <Deviouz> congrats keke
[02:13] <knome> it's unclear whether we can or can not install that by default
[02:14] <knome> afaik
[02:14] <knome> it kind of breaks some of the "copy protection systems"
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[02:15] <Legendre> Evening..
[02:15] <knome> !hi | Legendre
[02:15] <ubottu> Legendre: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[02:16] <Legendre> Have a problem. Fresh install of Karmic on IBM T-30 laptop. notes from the XFCE applets (appear in upper right, stuff like "your battery is fully charged, etc) are scrambled.
[02:17] <Legendre> The box just contains random video garbage, it's unreadable.
[02:17] <Deviouz> sounds like you need to change videodriver
[02:17] <knome> Legendre, can you imagebin a screenshot?
[02:17] <Legendre> it's like the grapic is from the wrong memory region..
[02:17] <Deviouz> have you tryed to change resolution?
[02:18] <Deviouz> it can make a big difference
[02:19] <keke> okay deviouz and knome thanks a tone
[02:19] <Legendre> Deviouz: possibly so, but I've no idea how to force a driver on modern Xorg servers. I used to write/edit my own xf86 config files, but the files on *buntu are really sparse. The server (or kernel) selects drivers automagically.
[02:19] <Legendre> Deviouz: what's the approved method for changing res on Xubuntu?
[02:20] <Legendre> (and I think it might be running at max res already, this is a T30.. 1024x768 max, I THINK)
[02:20] <Deviouz> you just need to go into settings >
[02:20] <Deviouz> then change resolution and see if that helps
[02:21] <Legendre> Ok. I don't have the machine here, it's my mom's.. set it up for her today. It's mostly OK, but I'd really like to fix this issue.
[02:22] <Deviouz> right click>programs>settings thats it:)
[02:22] <Legendre> one other issue.. just for the record. Sometimes, the wifi doesn't work when the machine boots.. have to reboot to get it working. That stinks, really.
[02:22] <Deviouz> if thats not helping you need to change the videodriver
[02:23] <Deviouz> weh,, that is something I never dealt with, maybe sombody else can help with that
[02:23] <Deviouz> good luck
[02:24] <Legendre> oh, and wicd was acting up. It was ignoring changes to prefs for a particular network.. it was trying to use WPA, even though it ws set for WEP - and hence unable to join the network. Baffling.
[02:24] <Legendre> thanks Deviouz
[02:24] <Deviouz> np:)
[02:24] <Legendre> so how do I force a driver on it, and which one would I use?? =)
[02:24] <Legendre> it's an ATI chipset
[02:25] <Legendre> or at least that's what lspci says.
[02:25] <Deviouz> first, you need to find out what graphics card you have in that notebook
[02:25] <knome> Legendre, have you looked at jockey?
[02:25] <Deviouz> and then google it,
[02:25] <Deviouz> and then you should find it in synaptic
[02:26] <Deviouz> make sure you have all the repos
[02:26] <Deviouz> then its just to install the prooper driver
[02:26] <Legendre> knome: nope, I know not of jockey
[02:26] <Deviouz> reboot
[02:27] <Legendre> it's like a radeon mobility 9XXX or some crap
[02:27] <Legendre> knome: what is jockey?
[02:27] <knome> Legendre, applications -> system -> hardware drivers
[02:28] <Legendre> knome: hm, there's a proprietary ATI driver??
[02:28] <knome> Legendre, that app should tell you if you need propietary drivers and lets you install and manage them
[02:28] <Legendre> sure, I know about that.. thought there were only props. for nvidia
[02:28] <Legendre> I'll have to give it a look...
[02:28] <knome> Legendre, if the driver is enabled, try disabling it. if it's disabled, try enabling it.
[02:28] <Deviouz> check this Legendre https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[02:29] <Deviouz> when you install a new driver it will automaticly disable and uninstall the old one
[02:30] <Legendre> thanks for that, Deviouz
[02:30] <Deviouz> you need to be very sure you pick the right one for your card, otherwice you might not see anything on that screen
[02:30] <Legendre> knome: but I still don't know what 'jockey' is?
[02:31] <Deviouz> np, but lets hope its just the resolution, try that first:)
[02:31] <knome> Legendre, the "hardware drivers" app is names jockey
[02:31] <knome> *named
[02:32] <Deviouz> Jockey is a user-space library for recording and replaying an execution of generic x86 GNU/Linux programs.
[02:32] <Legendre> ah! very good, thanks for that
[02:32] <Legendre> hm?? lol
[02:32] <knome> suppose that's a different jockey then
[02:33] <Legendre> thing is, maybe it's not running at max res.. but mom is old, she likes the display. Says it's "way brigter and clearer than windows"
[02:33] <Deviouz> how many can it be?:P
[02:33] <knome> your bets please, the horserace is starting in a minute!
[02:33] <Legendre> naming fail
[02:33] <Legendre> lol
[02:34] <Legendre> she was in total XP misery.. and I don't know crap about windows, so I told her it's time to do something different.
[02:34] <Deviouz> brighter and clearer oh my god:)
[02:35] <Legendre> had some idiot issue with the Adobe Download Manager.. which insisted that she update her flash/reader, but then refused to allow it.. even as admin, it would not let her install the new versions.
[02:35] <Legendre> OH MY GOD!!!!!!
[02:35] <Legendre> haha
[02:35] <Deviouz> she is a vice old lady
[02:35] <Legendre> hey, now... talk nice
[02:36] <Deviouz> yes I just mean she is intelligent old lady, haha,
[02:36] <Deviouz> cus she want xubuntu over xp:)
[02:36] <knome> well i think ADM knew that your mom was a quality lady and insisted on installing that crap on her
[02:37] <knome> *not to :P
[02:37] <Deviouz> :)
[02:37] <Legendre> knome: I don't know much about ADM.. it seems like some crap that adobe pushes on people when they install reader etc.
[02:37] <knome> things start to be fuzzy near 5am
[02:38] <Legendre> pure, worthless crapware.. breakware.. failware..
[02:38] <Deviouz> its probably spyware
[02:38] <knome> Legendre, well, it KIND OF is usable.
[02:38] <knome> Legendre, but not if you only have reader
[02:39] <Deviouz> thank god we are not affected by that so much in the GNU world
[02:39] <knome> it still can't beat the unix repository-thinking
[02:39] <Deviouz> the only thing xp is good at is play games
[02:40] <knome> hah, who plays games anyway ;)
[02:40] <Deviouz> you can do pretty much everything else in linux 50% better
[02:40] <Deviouz> yeah right
[02:41] <Deviouz> but be advised, adobe reader is avalible for xubuntu too:)
[02:41] <Deviouz> but with out that crap program
[02:42] <Legendre> fwiw, I've used Linux of one flavor, or another, since 1997.
[02:42] <Legendre> and have used it exclusively since 1999
[02:43] <Deviouz> I used pretty much all of them
[02:43] <knome> Legendre, good for you ;)
[02:43] <Deviouz> but none I have tryed so far is as good as xubuntu ubuntu and kubuntu
[02:43] <Legendre> yes, very good for me. what a fucking relief, free of MS..
[02:43] <Deviouz> lol
[02:43] <knome> !language | Legendre
[02:43] <ubottu> Legendre: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:43] <Deviouz> I couldnt agree more
[02:43] <Legendre> I was all-Slack until 2006 or so, then got on Xubuntu
[02:43] <Deviouz> Ops!
[02:44] <Deviouz> :)
[02:44] <Legendre> whoops
[02:44] <Legendre> It's a family channel, folks.
[02:44] <Legendre> =)
[02:44] <Deviouz> yes I had slack to
[02:44] <Deviouz> that is the most booring distro I ever tryed,
[02:45] <Deviouz> I mean that is stone age:)
[02:46] <Legendre> hm, I don't really agree. I never cared much for slick desktops, etc..
[02:46] <Deviouz> and lets not talk about Gentoo, OH MY GOD!
[02:46] <Legendre> I always ran blackbox or fluxbox on it, it was great.
[02:46] <Legendre> Gentoo is goofy.. I don't see the point.
[02:47] <Deviouz> you know how many times I run configure make and make install,
[02:47] <Deviouz> probably 1000000
[02:47] <Legendre> I mean, I do understand it.. I ran it for a while on one box, but just not worth all the conniptions
[02:47] <Deviouz> no its fun in the beginning but then, noo noo
[02:47] <Legendre> and yes, I've built oodles of softs under Slack..
[02:48] <Legendre> hundreds of kernels.. back when I was into that kind of thing.
[02:48] <Deviouz> thats cool
[02:48] <Legendre> I still run slack (13) on a couple machines here, where I don't need gui.
[02:48] <Deviouz> its so much better to have apt do all that things:)
[02:49] <Legendre> well, yeah.. but my level of trust is so-so..
[02:49] <knome> uhm.... *cough*
[02:49] <Deviouz> sure slack is a bit faster but not by much
[02:49] <knome> !offtopic
[02:49] <ubottu> #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:49] <knome> :]
[02:49] <Deviouz> you have a cold knome?
[02:49] <Deviouz> :)
[02:49] <knome> i'm not sure actually
[02:49] <Legendre> knome: hey, nobody else is talking.. if there is any legit xubu discussion, I'd yield.
[02:49] <knome> i'm going to bed
[02:50] <Deviouz> sleep good
[02:50]  * Legendre is an old hand at IRC.. know the rules
[02:50] <knome> yeah, keep the discussion going as long as it concerns computers ;)
[02:50] <Deviouz> distros is ok too?:)
[02:51] <knome> Deviouz, yes, but as Legendre said, only as long as nobody needs support
[02:51] <Legendre> Hey, how do I wire a serial cable to connect my Tandy 102 -> PC port.. so I can run it as a term?
[02:51] <knome> Legendre, i've irced 10 years also :)
[02:51] <Legendre> cool beans.
[02:51] <Deviouz> Im sure if someone like support they will make their voice heard:)
[02:51] <Legendre> need a geritol? I have plenty..
[02:51] <knome> Deviouz, hope so. :)
[02:52]  * Legendre is old and decrepit, please mock him.
[02:52] <knome> hehe
[02:52] <Deviouz> lol
[02:52]  * knome hugs Legendre ;)
[02:52] <knome> have fun guys
[02:52] <knome> and have a nice day/night!
[02:53] <Legendre> Ohh! My hip, it's broken!
[02:53] <Deviouz> lmao:)
[02:53] <Legendre> you too knome, thanks for the shatt..
[03:53] <randhol> Hi. I need to get a machine to ask the dhcp server for a specific address: f.ex 10.0.0.10 due to firewall etc.... I changed the setup in xfce4 in the NetworkManager gui. However some days later I found that my settings had been reset to automatic dhcp.  So my question is if I need to do this setup somewhere else in a config file as this way of doing it in NetworkManager does not seem to be stable.
[03:53] <randhol> running xubuntu karmic
[03:54] <j1mc> randhol: so ... you just need a static ip then?
[03:54] <randhol> just a local static
[03:54] <j1mc> the dhcp server is on your own network?
[03:55] <randhol> yes it is the fiber-modem
[03:56] <randhol> I need to setup the firewall in the modem to allow ssh from outside as I'm managing this computer from some 1000km away
[03:56] <j1mc> i think something like this should do it: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[03:56] <randhol> in the firewall settings I need to put a spesific local IP
[03:58] <randhol> ah
[03:58] <randhol> thanks!
[03:59] <randhol> So get rid of the network manager and do the same setup in the config files
[03:59] <randhol> I'll have a try at this as soon as the running simulation finishes
[03:59] <randhol> thanks!
[04:34] <raevol> hey all, when are xubuntu meetings held?
[08:28] <arthy> hi
[11:39] <Some_Person> Is it possible to hide menu items from Xfce but not GNOME and/or KDE?
[11:52] <silare> Is there a way for me to get the Albatross theme for GNOME as well?
[12:00] <Some_Person> silare: errm, it's a normal gtk theme as far as i can tell. should work in gnome already
[12:03] <silare> I know it's a normal GTK theme, but what about the window border?
[15:48] <zeus> i just installed xubuntu 9.10 im unable to install the updates while the update notifier says tht things are supposed to be installed
[17:14] <charlie-tca> Sysi: you around today?
[17:19] <Sysi> mostly
[17:20] <charlie-tca> If you remember yesterday, questions about the nvidia 185 driver not starting gdm in lucid?
[17:20] <charlie-tca> Only nvidia driver to work in lucid is 190, which has to be downloaded from nvidia
[17:20] <charlie-tca> I thing is is not out in final version yet
[17:22] <charlie-tca> well, let me try that line again. I think it is not out in final version from nvidia yet
[17:22] <charlie-tca> but he was right, 185 will not allow gdm to start in lucid
[17:24] <Sysi> alphas are always interesting
[17:25] <charlie-tca> oh yeah!
[17:25] <Sysi> i could put lucid on that old machine
[17:25] <Sysi> exept that it may is broken
[17:25] <charlie-tca> It is a bit tricky, right now
[17:25] <charlie-tca> lucid or the machine broken?
[17:27] <Sysi> machine
[17:27] <charlie-tca> :-(
[17:27] <charlie-tca> makes it much harder
[17:37] <bobobob> help....I cannot boot under the glx-185 drivers.  I login and it flickers a few times and then it asked me to login in again...infinite loop.  If I boot into low graphics, I can boot whole way.... :(
[17:38] <charlie-tca> Using what version of Xubunt?
[17:39] <charlie-tca> Only nvidia driver to work in lucid is 190, which has to be downloaded from nvidia
[17:40] <bobobob> karmic...sorry
[17:41] <charlie-tca> switch to a tty if you can, run 'sudo apt-get update', then  'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade', restart using 'sudo shutdown -r now'
[17:41] <charlie-tca> see if it helps
[17:42] <bobobob> k...
[17:42] <charlie-tca> something got thrown out of date or did not complete the installation
[17:43] <bobobob> guess I could try the nvidia driver from nvidia....
[17:43] <charlie-tca> Might try an "sudo apt-get check" too, to look for broken dependencies
[17:45] <bobobob> all up to date....
[17:45] <bobobob> check is good too...
[17:45] <charlie-tca> I have run into that issue on VBox, but not in hardware
[17:46] <bobobob> lol...I use vbox quite a bit too.  did I mention that I hate to use windows....?
[17:47] <bobobob> can you sudo apt-get purge nvidia-glx-185 or will that really mess X11 up?
[17:49] <charlie-tca> you can
[17:50] <charlie-tca> well, I have, anyway
[17:50] <charlie-tca> I purged nvidia once though. What a mess
[17:50] <bobobob> gee that installs confidence.... :)
[17:50] <charlie-tca> :-)
[17:51] <bobobob> now I get a message that it needs to run in low graphics...but it does login now... ;)
[17:52] <bobobob> how do you install latest nvidia driver/settings, do you go to nvidia.com or somewheres else?
[17:52] <charlie-tca> yes, you have to download them from nvidia.
[17:53] <bobobob> k
[17:53] <charlie-tca> Did you install through system - hardware drivers?
[17:53] <bobobob> yep
[18:04] <Deviouz> im having a severe problem with gdm
[18:05] <Deviouz> I type my pw and it working little and then throws be back out,
[18:05] <Deviouz> now I cant log into my system:(
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[18:14] <Deviouz> comon anyone
[18:14] <Deviouz> would it work if I uninstall it?
[18:16] <Deviouz> knome you there?
[18:18] <knome> Deviouz, yup
[18:18] <Deviouz> hi
[18:19] <Deviouz> can you help me with gdm
[18:19] <Deviouz> I hate this thing
[18:19] <bobobob> boo...I have a quadro nvs 160m...all they have for it is a beta 169.04 from 2007
[18:19] <bobobob> Deviouz: I am having same problem
[18:20] <Deviouz> yes this is a big bug for sure!
[18:20] <knome> Deviouz, sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm
[18:20] <Deviouz> it seem buggy as hell, is this a beta version?
[18:20] <bobobob> I figured it was the video driver since I could login fine using the low graphics
[18:20] <bobobob> have you tried low graphics login?
[18:20] <Deviouz> I already have low graphics
[18:21] <bobobob> mine worked fine for about 2 weeks, it must be some new change
[18:21] <bobobob> with nvidia....just started this yesterday
[18:21] <Deviouz> maybe it will work better if install an older version?
[18:21] <bobobob> like I said low graphics works fine
[18:21] <bobobob> here
[18:22] <bobobob> Deviouz: what video drivers are you using
[18:22] <Deviouz> so you just changed the resolituion then?
[18:22] <Deviouz> I haveing an old tnt/riva card
[18:23] <bobobob> no...I did a recovery boot, I think it was called...it was in the grub menu.  Then I uninstalled my nvidia graphics, then I reboot, then it said it needed to boot one session with low graphics
[18:24] <Deviouz> I see, and then you can still use nvidia drivers after that?
[18:26] <Deviouz> I noticed the resolution was set way too high when I had it freshly installed, I had a really blurry screen
[18:26] <Deviouz> I changed that and got it ok
[18:26] <bobobob> Deviouz: nope...until this gets resolved on xubuntus side, I guess I will just login low graphics for a while
[18:27] <Deviouz> hmm, wouldnt it work if just change the resolution in X?
[18:27] <Deviouz> question is how?
[18:28] <Deviouz> ok thanks bobobob, I will have a go at it
[18:29] <bobobob> i tried changing resolution in x while using nvidia drivers, but no luck
[18:31] <Deviouz> ok then, I will give it one more chance and if it doenst obey I will Purge it to helll!!>:
[18:31] <Deviouz> :P
[18:32] <Deviouz> bye for now
[18:56] <Balsaq> Hyvaa uuttavuotta !!!
[19:00] <Balsaq> Ungu' Bradun Dowg ?
[19:05] <ljamisonii> hello all
[19:06] <Balsaq> welcome ljamisonii
[19:06] <knome> Balsaq, you forgot the umlauts! :)
[19:06] <knome> Hyvää uutta vuotta! :)
[19:06] <Balsaq> wooops
[19:07] <Balsaq> got newt or
[19:07] <Balsaq> onnellista uutto voutta
[19:07] <knome> *uutta vuotta
[19:07] <knome> otherwise you are correct ;)
[19:07] <knome> and you too
[19:07] <Balsaq> thank you
[19:10] <ljamisonii> Balsaq, thanks :)
[19:10] <Ben_Monkey> Hello everyone
[19:14] <Balsaq> Greetings Ben_Monkey
[19:15] <Ben_Monkey> Hi ;)
[19:16] <Ben_Monkey> i did an online update from 9.04 to 9.10 last week and am having some issues
[19:17] <Ben_Monkey> just looking for some advice on where to start looking
[19:20] <Ben_Monkey> i assume there is a config file that controls the indavidual user's session...
[19:20] <Ben_Monkey> though i dont know where or which file that is
[19:20] <Ben_Monkey> whoops
[19:21] <Ben_Monkey> definately mispelled that :(
[19:22] <charlie-tca> config files should be in ~/.config and ~/.local. But sometimes gnome comes into it and you need to tweak something in ~/.gnome2 or ~/.gconf
[19:22] <charlie-tca> What kind of issues are you having?
[19:24] <Ben_Monkey> after i login, when xfce is selected as the session type, the screen flicks to black  and returns to the login screen. I f i select xterm as the session type, it has no issue
[19:25] <charlie-tca> Try deleting ~/.cache
[19:25] <Ben_Monkey> okay will do
[19:25] <charlie-tca> then look in ~/.xsession-errors for any hints. After that, reboot from the tty using sudo shutdown -r now
[19:25] <Ben_Monkey> in home...?
[19:26] <charlie-tca> yup, /home/$USER/.cache ; it is a hidden file, that's why starts with .
[19:27] <Ben_Monkey> sounds good
[19:27] <charlie-tca> fingers crossed, too
[19:27] <charlie-tca> sometimes though, it works
[19:29] <charlie-tca> Oh, look in ~/.dmrc for hints too. It may have "session=xubuntu" or xfce or something one time only. more than once means delete the extra lines of it
[19:29] <Ben_Monkey> aon a separate note, how does that whole session start process work? i assume a config file is consulted and lists things like xfce4-panel, xfce-session, xfce4-calender, etc...
[19:30] <charlie-tca> yes, but it should start at /etc/xdg first, then it comes back to your /home and individual changes
[19:31] <charlie-tca> Anyone here got 9.10 working?
[19:35] <Ben_Monkey> funny thing i had a similar problem when i did an over-the-air updated from 8.10 to 9.04 on a separate system
[19:35] <Ben_Monkey> should have learned my leason ;)
[19:35] <charlie-tca> Lots of us had that one
[19:36] <charlie-tca> that was due to the change to Xfce 4.6 from 4.4. The configurations did not convert and you had to delete them to get it working
[19:36] <charlie-tca> This one, I don't know. I haven't had a problem today
[19:37] <charlie-tca> But then, I did reinstall over Christmas, too
[19:39] <Deviouz> bobobob I installed xdm:) its butt ugly but it works
[19:49] <Ben_Monkey> okay changing screen resolution from the command line.... dont know where to start any pointers?
[19:52] <Deviouz> <Ben_Monkey> have a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[19:53] <Deviouz> bobobob say you can do it from the boot aswell ,,within the grub menu, failsafe mode or something
[19:53] <Ben_Monkey> thanks
[19:53] <Ben_Monkey> reading
[19:54] <Deviouz> hope it helps
[20:17] <Ben_Monkey> no luck on deleteing .cache
[20:20] <Ov3rf10w> Ben_Monkey, what your problem?
[20:28] <knome> !resolution | Balsaq
[20:28] <ubottu> Balsaq: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:28] <knome> oops!
[20:28] <knome> !resolution | Ben_Monkey
[20:28] <ubottu> Ben_Monkey: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:28] <knome> sorry for the flooding. :P
[20:51] <Deviouz> !resolution | Ben_Monkey
[20:51] <ubottu> Ben_Monkey: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:52] <Deviouz> thats cool
[20:52] <Deviouz> !help
[20:52] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:53] <Deviouz> !commands
[20:53] <ubottu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:54] <hal_> happy new year all
[20:59] <charlie-tca> Happy New Year to all!
[20:59] <hal_> ditto charlie
[21:04] <Ben_Monkey> in etc/xdg/, what does the xfconf migration script do/
[21:13] <Ben_Monkey> ?
[21:14] <hal_> whats up Ben?
[21:16] <Ben_Monkey> hi hal
[21:16] <Ben_Monkey> been troubleshooting some low level xfce issues after updateing to 4.6
[21:17] <Ben_Monkey> wasn't able to login to an xfce based session (only xterm), deleted .cache and had some intermitent positive results
[21:17] <Ben_Monkey> just cp'ing some sensitive data over
[21:18] <Ben_Monkey> should have updated as root :(, maybe then this wouldn't have been so painfull
[21:24] <hal_> maybe, should nt
[21:24] <hal_> be
[21:25] <Ben_Monkey> i have had session issues  twice after updateing from 8.10 to 9.04 and 9.04 to 9.10 on separate systems, one thing i had in common was i ran both updates from my user account
[21:25] <Ben_Monkey> which i had removed from the root group...
[21:27] <hal_> i always had trouble on the updates. i found backing up my files and just doing a straight download after burning the new cd saved me alot of headaches
[21:27] <hal_> upgrades i mean
[21:32] <Ben_Monkey> yeah i probably should have done that, i just wish i understood the system better
[21:33] <hal_> time Ben, just a little time. It'll sinks it hooks in you, like it did me
[21:33] <Ben_Monkey> i am pretty sure the problem lies in a unknown config file that runs the session startup process
[21:34] <hal_> possibly. do you have another cpu that your not using?
[21:34] <hal_> thats how i learned linux
[21:34] <hal_> still learning
[21:34] <hal_> ah. hold on going to look somethin up for ya
[21:35] <Ben_Monkey> several, mostly laptops
[21:36] <Ben_Monkey> so yeah looking at my login screen, it shows two options for xfce and one for xterm. i'm thinking one of those "xfce session" bits is a borken link to 4.4 and one is the new 4.6
[21:37] <Ben_Monkey> how to remove said link....
[21:37] <Ben_Monkey> off to father google
[21:39] <hal_> another way to learn ubuntu without all the trouble is using a program that lets you download ubuntu into a folder in windows with installing. here is the link, read it over: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide?action=show&redirect=Wubi
[21:42] <hal_> its a good way to run and learn it without installing into your hard drive..until your ready
[21:43] <Ben_Monkey> nice thanks ;)
[21:45] <Ben_Monkey> i find i learn best when i can talk things over, get the big concepts down in my head
[21:45] <Ben_Monkey> how do people do that these days short of having a saavy friend ?
[22:05] <Ben_Monkey> removing them reinstalling xfce... anyone
[22:05] <Ben_Monkey> from command line;)
[22:16] <Ben_Monkey> never mind working the google
[22:45] <molecule_> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! 2010