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| === pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: Sunday, December 6, 2009 @ 9PM EST (Monday, December 7, @ 2AM UTC) in #ubuntu-meeting | Support in #ubuntu | |
| [01:42] <nigel_nb> pleia2: just saw your mail | |
| [01:43] <pleia2> nigel_nb: thoughts? | |
| [01:43] <nigel_nb> mine is an intro to bzr | |
| [01:43] <pleia2> I was hoping we could hash some of this out before our meeting on sunday so we don't bog the meeting down with it | |
| [01:43] <nigel_nb> essentially what doctormo wrote on his blog in a asciidoc class form | |
| [01:44] <pleia2> ok, so you talk about "log into bzr, here is how you commit changes.." etc? | |
| [01:44] <nigel_nb> yes | |
| [01:44] <nigel_nb> wrt to uclp | |
| [01:45] <pleia2> great | |
| [01:45] <nigel_nb> I've finished first draft of 5 sections (half) | |
| [01:45] <pleia2> close to finishing that? | |
| [01:45] <pleia2> ok :) | |
| [01:45] <nigel_nb> since u want it escalated, I'll drop everything and get the first draft complete today and put it up for review | |
| [01:46] <pleia2> thanks, you rock! | |
| [01:46] <pleia2> now I need to track down BiosElement for asciidoc ;) | |
| [01:46] <nigel_nb> :) | |
| [01:47] <nigel_nb> you'll be available online? | |
| [01:47] <nigel_nb> today i mean | |
| [01:47] <pleia2> for another hour at least, I have a terrible cold that is making me sleep like 14 hours/day | |
| [01:48] <nigel_nb> ah :P, join the club | |
| [01:48] <nigel_nb> but I'm still kickin though | |
| [01:48] <pleia2> :) | |
| [01:48] <nigel_nb> I'll start off then, so I can check with you on language | |
| [01:48] <pleia2> great, thanks | |
| [01:54] <nigel_nb> pleia2: tircd shows you replies from people that you're not following? | |
| [01:54] <pleia2> nigel_nb: the client doesn't control that, it's the twitter api | |
| [01:55] <nigel_nb> oh ok :) | |
| [01:56] <pleia2> but yeah, it does | |
| [01:56] <nigel_nb> have to try it out later then | |
| [01:56] <nigel_nb> oh, lp is down | |
| [01:56] <pleia2> doh | |
| [02:06] <BiosElement> pleia2: I'm around >.> | |
| [02:06] <pleia2> hey BiosElement :) | |
| [02:06] <pleia2> see my email? | |
| [02:06] <BiosElement> Aye. | |
| [02:07] <pleia2> where are we with asciidoc structure? | |
| [02:07] * pleia2 itches to write stuff | |
| [02:07] <BiosElement> Ahh, that's a good question. >.> | |
| [02:11] * pleia2 watches her energy meter drop significantly faster than she had anticipated | |
| [02:12] <pleia2> stupid cold! | |
| [02:12] <nigel_nb_> pleia2: wanna hit the bed? | |
| [02:12] <pleia2> yeah, I think that's where I'm headed :( | |
| [02:12] <pleia2> I'll be around all weekend though | |
| [02:12] <nigel_nb_> anyway, lp is down | |
| [02:12] <nigel_nb_> anything I do stays in my system | |
| [02:13] <nigel_nb_> asked in #launchpad, it was supposed to be up at 2345 UTC, but some delay. So, there is no guarantee when it will be up | |
| [02:13] * pleia2 nods | |
| [02:14] * nigel_nb_ just noticed something great :) | |
| [02:14] <nigel_nb_> I've finished 5/9 sections so far | |
| [02:14] <pleia2> you rock :) | |
| [02:16] * nigel_nb_ blushes | |
| === nigel_nb is now known as nigel_nb_ | |
| === nigel_nb_ is now known as nigel_nb | |
| [02:30] <nigel_nb> pleia2: if u're still here, I could use some help | |
| [03:49] <BiosElement> heh, I love how "William Chambers doesn't use Launchpad" and yet my branches are still listed :P Gotta love half working systems. >.> | |
| [03:49] <cprofitt> hey BiosElement long time no see dude... | |
| [03:49] <BiosElement> Heya cprofitt | |
| [03:49] <BiosElement> Aye, it's been ages. ^_^ | |
| [03:50] <cprofitt> you going to have some free time in Mid-December to do some asciidoc with me? | |
| [03:50] <BiosElement> Speaking of AsciiDoc, I've got to figureout what's up with that. >.> | |
| [13:00] <pleia2> doctormo! | |
| [13:01] <pleia2> we need to talk about asciidoc soon :) | |
| [13:12] <doctormo> Hey pleia2, we do indeed | |
| [13:12] <doctormo> nigel is the obviouslly best persont o ask about writing, after myself. | |
| [13:13] <doctormo> And I wanted BiosElement to get busy with the scripts for building the resulting documents | |
| [13:13] <doctormo> But so far, no work has been done. | |
| [13:13] <pleia2> I spoke with bioselement last night, he said it was in your court | |
| [13:13] <doctormo> It is not | |
| [13:13] <pleia2> I am not interested in scripts at this point, I want raw "how to do stuff" | |
| [13:14] <pleia2> waiting for scripts is killing us | |
| [13:14] <doctormo> Sure | |
| [13:14] <pleia2> *I* don't even know how this all works :) | |
| [13:14] <doctormo> Not these, these aren't important for writing | |
| [13:14] <pleia2> bios was concerned that we don't have asciidoc structure yet | |
| [13:14] <pleia2> so for writing we still just use odt? | |
| [13:14] <doctormo> They're just build scripts, and it's with BiosElement, i'm waiting on him to get those into some order. But enough of that. | |
| [13:15] <pleia2> ok, maybe you should touch base with him? | |
| [13:15] <doctormo> I think Bios isn't accepting the structure that's there already. He wants to keep reinventing it. | |
| [13:15] <doctormo> So it seems I need to. | |
| [13:15] <pleia2> I thought the structure was too complicated? | |
| [13:15] <pleia2> he wanted a simpler one | |
| [13:15] <doctormo> It's not possible. | |
| [13:16] <pleia2> ok - so we did decide upon a structure? | |
| [13:16] <doctormo> Aye, that would be good. | |
| [13:16] <pleia2> if we could get that documented it'd be great, a "this stuff goes here, this file is for this...." | |
| [13:16] <pleia2> maybe with pretty pictures :) | |
| [13:17] <doctormo> Yes, sorry for being absent, it's been busy with me visiting the UK, lots of family and such that need attention. | |
| [13:19] <pleia2> no problem :) | |
| [13:19] <pleia2> I just wanted to get some of this sorted before our meeting | |
| [13:45] <doctormo_> huh my computer cut out | |
| [13:45] <doctormo_> pleia2: if you responded I didn't get it | |
| [13:45] <pleia2> all I said was that I wanted to try and get the asciidoc stuff on track before our meeting | |
| [13:45] <pleia2> so we don't waste time and stall more saying "we need to do this stuff" | |
| [13:46] <doctormo_> pleia2: The problem is that we have say 100 units of work to do, and a capacity to only do about 10 units per week, unless people can be convinced to do more work, there isn't much choice. | |
| [13:48] <pleia2> so should we be telling people to write things in odt until we can sort out the asciidoc situation? | |
| [13:49] <pleia2> I'd help if I could, but I don't even understand the asciidoc format | |
| [13:50] <doctormo_> pleia2: We should be already (I thought that's what we were doing) | |
| [13:50] <doctormo_> pleia2: But don't forget, there is as much structure in odt as there is in anything | |
| [13:50] <pleia2> asciidoc has book directories and things that are confusing | |
| [13:50] <doctormo_> The problems I can see is how much we'll have to rewrite because we don't have odt templates. | |
| [13:51] <pleia2> I don't really understand how it works, or how to create things out of it | |
| [13:51] <doctormo_> pleia2: asciidoc it's self is fairly direct, you create a text file, you run a command on it, it creates a pdf. | |
| [13:52] <pleia2> ok, I'll have to look at it again, I thought there were more directories and files than that | |
| [13:53] <doctormo_> pleia2: There are, but that's not ascii doc's fault, that's mine. | |
| === doctormo_ is now known as doctormo | |
| [13:55] <pleia2> hmm | |
| [13:57] <pleia2> alright, I'll take a look later http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning-board/ubuntu-learning-materials/trunk2/files/head:/maintain/commandline-basics/ is a good example? | |
| [13:57] <pleia2> this does seem reasonable | |
| [13:57] <pleia2> I think I was confused by earlier versions | |
| [14:00] <pleia2> do we have a document explaining the structure yet? If this is a good example I can write one for my own benefit, show it to you and you can confirm it's correct? | |
| [14:03] <pleia2> sorry for being such a pain :) | |
| [14:40] <nigel_nb> doctormo: ping | |
| [14:41] <nigel_nb> pleia2: up yet? | |
| [14:41] <pleia2> nigel_nb: yeah, but busy morning at work | |
| [14:41] <nigel_nb> oh | |
| [14:41] <pleia2> if you want me to review something just give me a link and I'll get to it when I have some time :) | |
| [14:41] <nigel_nb> just wanted to let you know, I've pushed up to revision 12 | |
| [14:41] <nigel_nb> here's the branch https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/ubuntu-learning-materials/bazaar-introduction | |
| [14:42] <nigel_nb> can u just do a review when you get time and ping/mail me? | |
| [14:43] <pleia2> sure | |
| [14:43] <pleia2> do you want technical testing too? | |
| [14:43] <nigel_nb> thanks :) | |
| [14:43] <nigel_nb> not really, I doubt if u can test it, since its not complete | |
| [14:43] <nigel_nb> but, do let me know if the format gives you trouble | |
| [14:43] <pleia2> ok :) | |
| [14:44] <pleia2> thanks nigel_nb | |
| [14:44] <nigel_nb> thanks to you too pleia2 :) | |
| [14:44] <nigel_nb> hope you're doing better today | |
| [14:44] <pleia2> thanks, I think I am a bit | |
| [14:44] <nigel_nb> great :) | |
| [15:07] <doctormo> nigel_nb: pong | |
| [15:07] <nigel_nb> doctormo: oh great :) | |
| [15:07] <nigel_nb> just wanted to tell I you I pushed to rev 12 | |
| [15:07] <nigel_nb> just 3 more sections to go | |
| [15:08] <pleia2> \o/ | |
| [15:08] <doctormo> pleia2: Reviewing nigel_nb's branch will also give you a good example | |
| [15:08] <pleia2> doctormo: ok, great | |
| [15:08] <pleia2> thanks :) | |
| [15:08] <ZachK_> hey pleia2 | |
| [15:08] <pleia2> I'll try to have this done by our meeting time on sunday | |
| [15:08] <pleia2> hey ZachK_ :) | |
| [15:08] <nigel_nb> doctormo: doing okay? | |
| [15:09] <ZachK_> pleia2: any assistance give I can? | |
| [15:09] <pleia2> ZachK_: same as before, you can link up to good existing documentation in the wiki | |
| [15:09] <ZachK_> cool | |
| [15:12] <doctormo> nigel_nb: One second | |
| [15:12] <nigel_nb> okay | |
| [15:14] <doctormo> nigel_nb: It looks great, I like the ssh key description | |
| [15:15] <nigel_nb> doctormo: talsemgeest helped me with that one | |
| [15:15] <nigel_nb> took a lot of trouble formatting it properly | |
| [15:22] <doctormo> nigel_nb: I see, double cudos for getting help when required. | |
| [15:23] <nigel_nb> well, lyz (I dont wanna ping her) went to bed coz she was sick, so had to find someone :P | |
| [15:34] <nigel_nb> doctormo: I'm off to work then, catch you on meeting day | |
| [15:34] <nigel_nb> or 2morrow | |
| [15:57] <FFEMTcJ> mornin | |
| [16:10] <doctormo> hey FFEMTcJ | |
| [16:11] <FFEMTcJ> whats up doc? | |
| [16:11] <FFEMTcJ> not that you have EVER heard that before | |
| [16:11] <doctormo> FFEMTcJ: No never ;-) | |
| [16:12] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: he probably hasn't seen bugs bunny :P | |
| [16:12] <nigel_nb> doctormo: have you? | |
| [16:12] <FFEMTcJ> hehe | |
| [16:13] <doctormo> nigel_nb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUYZYJ7XueI | |
| [16:14] <nigel_nb> reminds me of the good old days | |
| [16:14] <nigel_nb> when i was 6 and all I did was cartoon network | |
| [16:14] <nigel_nb> aw, the music itself its nostalgic | |
| [16:15] <doctormo> Oh Mur-dur! | |
| [16:26] <FFEMTcJ> 29 | |
| [16:26] <FFEMTcJ> uggh | |
| [16:26] <FFEMTcJ> 29 | |
| [16:26] <FFEMTcJ> wtf | |
| [16:26] * pleia2 offers FFEMTcJ a handful of /s, and the swear jar | |
| [16:27] <FFEMTcJ> ty | |
| [16:27] <FFEMTcJ> after 3 years, still not used to the lappy keyboard | |
| [16:27] <FFEMTcJ> lol | |
| [17:07] <ZachK_> wb ubuntulog | |
| [21:20] <doctormo> hey BiosElement, we should talk | |
| [21:20] <BiosElement> Hey doctormo, what's up? | |
| [21:22] <mhall119|work> sounds serious | |
| [21:24] <doctormo> hey mhall119|worknot really, just clarifying what structures are being promoted and taught.' | |
| [21:25] <mhall119|work> okay | |
| [21:25] <mhall119|work> cause that's how you start the "grandma died" conversation | |
| [21:27] <doctormo> mhall119|work: we should talk | |
| [21:27] <doctormo> mhall119|work: didyou know that peanuts are really beans? | |
| [21:29] <mhall119|work> they're legumes | |
| [21:30] <doctormo> Same thing | |
| [21:30] <mhall119|work> legumes are the parent class of both beans and peanuts, according to wikipedia | |
| [21:31] <mhall119|work> and wikipedia is never wrong | |
| [21:31] <mhall119|work> at least, that's what I read on wikipedia | |
| [21:31] * mhall119|work just had the best idea for spam chain email | |
| [21:32] <mhall119|work> I'm going to start an email rumor that going to snopes.com will infect your computer with a virus. | |
| [21:32] <mhall119|work> who are you going to use to check if that's true or rumor? | |
| [21:32] <_marx_> beautiful | |