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[00:24] <Myrtti> good night everyone
[00:40] <Seeker`> gah, missed Myrtti
[00:40] <LjL> Seeker`: you have to hold that gun *steady*
[00:40] <Seeker`> :P
[00:41] <Seeker`> just did the nerd test she posted to facebook about
[00:41] <Hobbsee> hey there Seeker`, LjL
[00:41] <Seeker`> http://nerdtests.com/images/badge/nt2/82e06a4e6ddeefaa.png
[00:41] <PriceChild> "King"?
[00:41] <Seeker`> apparently so
[00:42] <LjL> morning Hobbsee
[00:42] <PriceChild> :P
[00:42] <Seeker`> http://nerdtests.com/ft_nt2.php
[00:49] <Seeker`> anyone else taking it?
[00:49] <PriceChild> Seeker`: i'm simply a nerd
[00:50] <PriceChild> Seeker`: http://nerdtests.com/images/badge/nt2/275381a844d7a31d.png
[00:50] <Seeker`> thats rubbish :P
[00:59] <Daviey> :( dorky nerd god
[00:59] <Daviey> This simply isn't true. I'm a kool kat
[01:13] <Daviey> Seeker`: MrsDaviey = Cool Light-Weight Nerd
[01:13] <Daviey> right bed
[01:14] <Hobbsee> not sure of soros is going to behave like a mono troll elsewhere..
[02:20] <Seeker`> Hobbsee: what is a mono troll?
[02:20] <Seeker`> Hobbsee: someone that can only troll in one channel at a time?
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Seeker`: unfortunately not
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Seeker`: a guy trolling about mono.
[03:52] <bazhang> someone should keep an eye on maple1 in -ot
[03:53] <bazhang> <maple1> I popped 5 dexedrine just to tolerate linux
[03:53] <bazhang> in #ubuntu
[03:53] <bazhang> currently PM 'ing
[03:59] <nixternal> hahahahaha, just 5?
[04:06] <bazhang> maple1 is now banned in #ubuntu ; someone with rights in -ot may wish to watch out for him
[04:06] <bazhang> <maple1> I'm just getting drunk and on drugs
[04:06] <bazhang> @bansearch lordkagar
[04:06] <ubottu> Match: *!*@21Cust227.tnt1.calgary.ab.da.uu.net by bazhang in #ubuntu on Nov 28 2008 03:59:04 (ID: 7363)
[04:06] <ubottu> Match: *Kagar*!*@* by elkbuntu in #ubuntu-offtopic on Nov 23 2008 09:49:13 (ID: 7196)
=== genii-test is now known as genii-around
[04:11] * genii-around sips
[04:18] <genii-around> @login
[04:18] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[04:29] <bazhang> <cakey> i accidentally the video card
[04:30] <Flannel> oh no, anti-verb trolls?
[04:30] <bazhang> haha
[04:30] <Flannel> yeah
[04:30] <Flannel> Its been a few ... what, months, years?
[04:31] <Flannel> Its someone being annoying, not just forgetting verbs.
[04:36] <nalioth> not everyone speaks english natively
[04:36] <nalioth> or types it
[04:37] <Flannel> no, this one's word for word from the last guy
[04:37] <Flannel> even answers questions in the same way
[04:39] <Flannel> bazhang: the official debian is on oftc now
[04:40] <bazhang> Flannel, I was answering his ubuntu Q
[04:40] <bazhang> did not see the debian before I hit enter
[06:42] <elky_e71> someone may want to watch drog, is being inappropriate
[06:42] <elky_e71> -ot
[06:52] <elkeee> crap, i dont have chanserv on tyis yet
[06:53] <bazhang> drog is always inappropriate imo
[06:55] <elkeee> haha
[06:55] <bazhang> is dmay behaving himself elkeee ?
[06:56] <bazhang> in -women, that is
[06:56] <elkeee> no idea
[06:56] <elkeee> ive been at work. on my way to a LUG meet now
[06:56] <bazhang> @bansearch dmay
[06:56] <ubottu> No matches found for dmay!*@* in any channel
[07:04] <elkeee> bazhang, you are op in -ot, yes?
[07:04] <elkeee> i need to go, but atomic and drog cannot be trusted without adult supervision
[07:10] <ikonia> I've seen dmay before
[07:22] <bazhang> elkeee, not in -ot, no
[07:41] <ikonia> is the nick asdf1234 from a specific irc client as loads of people seem to be using it
[07:43] <stdin> ikonia: it's just a "random" nick people pick a lot
[07:43] <stdin> the first 4 letters below qwerty is asdf
[07:44] <ikonia> I got that, but it just seems "really" in us a lot
[07:45] <stdin> I think it's where people are setting up a client for the first time and just want to run through the setup quickly
[07:59] <elkeee> i see he did not come in and cry
[10:10] <stdin> !staff | Core!n=Core0@jet.globallogic.com.ua <---zloy still ban evading (and k-line evading afaik)
[10:10] <ubottu> Core!n=Core0@jet.globallogic.com.ua <---zloy still ban evading (and k-line evading afaik): Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could use a bit of your time :)
[10:11] <stdin> bazhang: good time to use !staff then
[10:11] <bazhang> stdin, okay thanks; I am guessing that works in -irc too
[10:12] <stdin> bazhang: yes, but more staff in here than -irc
[10:12] <bazhang> stdin, ok; thought since it was a -ru problem that was the more appropriate place, but he is also banned in #ubuntu as well
[10:13] <bazhang> n=Core0@jet.globallogic.com.ua <---zloy ban/kline evading
[10:13] <bazhang> !staff | zloy ban/k-line evading
[10:13] <ubottu> zloy ban/k-line evading: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could use a bit of your time :)
[10:29] <christel> thank you, they appear gone now tho
[10:30] <bazhang> okay; just wanted to let you all know. he has done this more than a dozen times now
[11:17] <Myrtti> gmoin
[11:21] <jussi01> Hello all!
[11:21] * jussi01 waves
[11:21] <ikonia> your awake
[11:23] <jussi01> a little...
[11:23] <jussi01> the morphine is doing strange things to my head...
[11:23] <ikonia> where are you now @?
[11:23] <ikonia> morphine ???
[11:23] <jussi01> in Geelong, AU
[11:24] <jussi01> yeah, The doc thinks Ive done my anterior cruciate ligament, going in for scans on monday...
[11:24] <ikonia> what happened, I didn't know you wher hurt
[11:25] <jussi01> yeah, it happened ~3 hours ago
[11:25] <ikonia> wow
[11:25] <jussi01> Was playing Football...
[11:26] <ikonia> say no more
[11:26] <jussi01> lol
[11:27] <jussi01> so yeah, My position is currently "in bed" :P
[11:28] <Myrtti> my settop box arrived today
[11:28] <ikonia> rubbish
[11:28] <Myrtti> now all I need is a tv.
[11:28] <Myrtti> :-D
[11:29] <jussi01> lol, and a license...
[11:30] <ikonia> does finland have TV licenses?
[11:31] <jussi01> yes
[11:31] <jussi01> ~200¤ per year
[11:31] <ubot3> Factoid 200¤ per year not found
[11:31] <jussi01> oops
[11:33] <Myrtti> jussi01: it's jalkapallo, btw.
[11:39] <jussi01> Myrtti: shush,Ive had morphine :D
[11:39] * Myrtti pours jussi01 some glögi
[11:49] * Myrtti pokes her inbox
[11:56] <gnomefreak> if glogi has liquer in it can i have one
[11:58] <Myrtti> it's all up to preference
[11:58] * Myrtti pours gnomefreak some kossu in his serving
[11:59] <gnomefreak> :) thanks
[12:19] <jussi01> ok, Im off sleepy byes... nini all
[12:39] <PriceChild> where's !ch gone :/
[12:39] <PriceChild> !-ch
[12:39] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch
[13:01] <Myrtti> PriceChild: ch?
[13:01] <PriceChild> switzerland isn't it?
[13:02] <Myrtti> !unforget ch
[13:02] <ubottu> I knew nothing about ch at all, Myrtti
[13:02] <Myrtti> ah.
[13:02] <Myrtti> has never been
[13:02] <PriceChild> i guess so
[13:02] <ikonia> !cn
[13:02] <ubottu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk
[13:17] <nalioth> 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk
[13:39] <cody-somerville> What is our policy for dealing with people who look for help doing something malicious?
[13:41] <stdin> depends what you mean
[13:42] <stdin> if it's illegal then we don't help, if they want to ruin their own system (and know that's what they are doing), then it's up to them
[13:44] <Myrtti> if they've already managed to bork their system with tools like auto/ultamatix, then we run and teach them how to use alternative methods after they've installed a clean install
[13:47] <ikonia> cody-somerville I won't help anyone crack peoples boxes, thingsl ike that
[13:47] * cody-somerville nods.
[13:53] <PriceChild> wireless cracking by any chance?
[13:54] <ikonia> isn't it always
[13:54] <ikonia> "I want to learn how to use aricrack"
[13:54] <PriceChild> the documents & faqs on their site are really good
[13:55] <cody-somerville> SYN FLOOD actually
[13:55] <PriceChild> oh that's a new one
[13:56] <cody-somerville> [09:37] <ciapsadm> I need to flood an ip, not a server
[13:56] <cody-somerville> [09:38] <ciapsadm> Programs for windows are flood
[13:57] <PriceChild> l
[13:57] <ikonia> cody-somerville: "bye bye"
[13:57] <LjL> <disclaimer="i'm not serious">could always teach him by example on his ip</disclaimer>
[13:58] <Pici> Thow an !illegal at him.
[13:58] <ikonia> there is no reason to flood an ip thats valid
[13:58] <PriceChild> "how can I stress test the apache webserver running on my ubuntu server" kinda thing = sure, why not
[13:59] <PriceChild> "i want to flood x" = flood what/how/why? maybe not
[13:59] <LjL> yes, agreed, look at the intent
[13:59] <Pici> This is one of those "if you have to ask..." type of things.
[13:59] <LjL> like, the other day someone asked "i know this is an illegal question, but ..."
[13:59] <LjL> i don't care what's after the "but"
[13:59] <LjL> if you know it's illegal then you don't ask
[13:59] <LjL> specifically, the question was about p2p programs
[14:00] <LjL> and i've obviously nothing against a question like "how can i install gnutella"
[14:00] <ikonia> Pici: yes, I'm inclined to agree
[14:01] <LjL> there is that too
[14:02] <PriceChild> And is there anything wrong with just ignoring it if you're unsure?
[14:03] <ikonia> not sure if it should be ignored
[14:03] <ikonia> eg: allow that sort of discussion
[14:04] <ikonia> someone saying "someone in #ubuntu told me how to do it"
[14:57] <ikonia> 14:57 -!- Acedip is now known as OsamaBinLaden
[14:57] <ikonia> ??
[14:58] <genii> ikonia: Heh, I saw this as well
[14:58] <ikonia> I don't think it's his real name, just asking why he changed, hope it wasn't to provoke anything
[14:59] <ikonia> he changed it, it was to just provoke a response
[15:00] <ikonia> seemed ok in pm, but just wanted to cause a bit of fuss
[15:00] <bazhang> he was making comments a few days back about 'not believing in spoon-feeding users'
[15:00] <Pici> Oh, him.
[15:00] <ikonia> yes, I thought that was teh same user
[15:00] <bazhang> yep
[15:00] <ikonia> someone banned him
[15:00] <ikonia> may even have been me
[15:00] <ikonia> @btlogin
[15:00] <bazhang> a known tr.. quantity
[15:01] <ikonia> LjL: how do you search the comments
[15:01] <ikonia> I'm sure I put a comment in about spoon feeding
[15:02] <ikonia> ooh the search box does it on it's own
[15:02] <LjL> ikonia: just like everything else
[15:02] <ikonia> http://jussi01.com/web/bans.cgi?sess=0f7dbbbb51702ef4aab8db6d52272966
[15:02] <ikonia> oops
[15:02] <ikonia> *!*@adsl-215-109-54.mia.bellsouth.net
[15:02] <ikonia> different guy
[15:02] <LjL> ikonia, you know, the above paste was probably not a good idea...
[15:02] <bazhang> weird coincidence
[15:02] <Pici> Indeed.
[15:02] <ikonia> yes, it was an accident
[15:03] <ikonia> not much I can do about that apart from apologise
[15:03] <Pici> jussi01: Could you delete a bt session from the database? See a few lines up?
[15:03] <ikonia> Pici: genius
[15:03] <PriceChild> can you not just issue a new one to yourself and the old is removed?
[15:04] <LjL> not sure the old one is removed
[15:04] <Pici> I cannot remember either.
[15:04] <genii> I have to be careful of my touchpad, it wants to paste like that sometimes if I swipe the tope right corner wrong way
[15:04] <genii> *top
[15:04] <LjL> i don't think so, i've often clicked on old BT sessions after requesting new ones, and they worked
[15:04] <PriceChild> mine have expired before, i'm just not sure why
[15:04] <ikonia> LjL: I believe you are right
[15:04] <LjL> genii: you can disable the top right corner acting as a middle button
[15:04] <PriceChild> but worth a try
[15:05] <Pici> The BT code clears them after a bit, but I dont remember when or why.
[15:05] <genii> LjL: Good idea, thanks
[15:05] <ikonia> old ones are still valid
[15:05] <ikonia> just tested
[15:05] <LjL> genii: if your touchpad supports multitouch, you can configure it so that two or three fingers tap is middle button instead
[15:05] <genii> I had same one up in firefox 2 days running, refresh still worked on it
[15:05] <LjL> genii: use synclient to test, "man synaptics"
[15:06] <ikonia> @mark Acedip #ubuntu "wanted to cause a disruption using nick changes"
[15:06] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[15:07] <nalioth> how do you turn off "Contact this user" in launchpad?
[15:08] <LjL> am i the only one being randomly mailed by people asking for ubuntu support...?
[15:08] <Pici> Yes.
[15:08] <nalioth> LjL: no, see my question
[15:08] <LjL> right...
[15:08] <LjL> look at this one
[15:09] <LjL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/77761/
[15:10] <nalioth> i just got the same exact one
[15:10] <ikonia> you two are l33t
[15:10] <bazhang> what chipset
[15:10] <PriceChild> they'll have sent that to a team, not individuals, i got it to
[15:11] <bazhang> oh wait. this is not a support channel :)
[15:11] <Myrtti> bazhang: neither is that email ;-)
[15:11] <bazhang> true Myrtti :)
[15:12] <genii> LjL: That is one weird message
[15:12] <PriceChild> LjL: nalioth: I believe they're being sent to us individually from the contact this team on ubuntu-irc-council
[15:13] <Pici> Weird.
[15:14] <PriceChild> shall we change that team to have the ML as our contact address, so at least we know someone's sending these emails to the team rather than us individually
[15:18] <nalioth> according to https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople we can turn off the functionality. i've looked and can't find it
[15:19] <PriceChild> where's it say that?
[15:20] <PriceChild> oh you acn hide your individual email, but not disable the ability for emailing an entire team
[15:20] <nalioth> it says you can turn off the "Contact this user" part
[15:26] <LjL> PriceChild: the ML seems like the natural choice for our contact address to me
[15:27] <PriceChild> seems you can work out whether something is from launchpad by the header, but this is easier 8-)
[15:30] <PriceChild> LjL: oh but you can only have each address assigned to one team in launchpad... we're already assigned to ubuntu-irc-cloaks *works magic*
[15:30] <LjL> PriceChild: sounds terminally silly
[15:32] <LjL> Pici: but are you sure? (or have you just changed it?) because here ubuntu-irc-cloaks says "no contact address"
[15:32] <Pici> Wrong P
[15:32] <PriceChild> LjL: i just changed that... but still can't assign it to ubuntu-irc-council
[15:32] <LjL> PriceChild: because? same error still?
[15:32] <PriceChild> (i'm thinking all mails to ubuntu-irc-cloaks will get sent t ubuntu-irc-council, and so the ML)
[15:32] <PriceChild> same error
[15:33] <PriceChild> ah now its worked i think
[15:33] <LjL> PriceChild: didn't something like this happen before? i.e. we fiddled with emails on launchpad hoping we could "free up" stuff, but it was left stuck?
[15:33] <PriceChild> bah no, wrong team
[15:34] <LjL> i vaguely remember asking in #launchpad to no avail
[15:34] <PriceChild> I'll try again.
[16:21] <LjL> #ubuntu [17:19:19] <w441> type /QUOTE PASS 14415
[16:21] <LjL> this looks malicious although i don't really know what harm it could do
[16:22] <Pici> It shouldn't do anything if you're already connected
[16:22] <LjL> indeed
[16:22] <LjL> still why would someone tell people to type that?
[16:22] <ikonia> idiot ?
[16:23] <Pici> ikonia: besides the obvious he means.
[16:23] <ikonia> oh
[16:23] <LjL> heh
[16:32] <genii> snowhite is being a pest I see :)
[16:32] <LjL> what i said translates as a last warning
[16:33] <LjL> next time, ban
[16:34] <bazhang> I read vista for some reason
[16:34] <nalioth> genii: do we know you?
[16:36] <ikonia> genii: on a finish address ?
[16:36] <bazhang> and not sipping coffee?
[16:37] <ikonia> finnish I meant
[16:37] <Myrtti> He's finnished
[16:37] <bazhang> oof
[16:37] <Pici> augh
[16:39] <Dave2> .wi n77
[16:39] <Pici> fail77
[16:40] <genii> I'm not finnish
[16:41] <ikonia> your on an unsual IP
[16:41] <ikonia> unusual
[16:41] <genii> No, all my hostmasks or so on should trace back to Toronto or so
[16:41] <ikonia> your on a .fi domain
[16:41] <genii> ikonia: Ah, thats becuase I'm on jussi01's Quassel box, which is in Finland
[16:41] <ikonia> ahhh
[16:41] <PriceChild> genii: identify please ;)
[16:42] <genii> @login
[16:42] <ubottu> Error: You are not identified
[16:42] <genii> Hm
[16:42] <PriceChild> to nickserv
[16:42] <ikonia> PriceChild: is that an ED209 impression ?
[16:42] <PriceChild> :)
[16:42] <genii> @login
[16:42] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[16:43] <genii> Yay!
[16:46] <ikonia> you now have 15 seconds to comply
[16:47] <Pici> My voice is my passport. Verify me.
[16:47] <ikonia> accepted
[16:53] <nalioth> genii: can you make nice with nickserv, or do i have to enforce the /topic ?
[16:54] <Pici> nalioth: he did
[16:54] <stdin> he hasn't been granted +v here yet
[16:56] <Myrtti> [18:56] [freenode] ~~~ : is identified to services
[17:00] <genii> nalioth: I identified
[17:01] <genii> Apologies on reply lag, work required me
[17:01] <jpds> ikonia: hmm? Translator?
[17:02] <Myrtti> meh.
[17:02] <Myrtti> these beans don't taste that good :-<
[17:04] <Pici> bad beans
[17:04] <genii> Myrtti: Hopefully you did not find them in the guinea pig enclosure .... ;)
[17:04] <Pici> D:
[17:04] <Myrtti> genii: no, though I did clean the cage just few minutes ago
[17:04] <ikonia> jpds: translators
[17:05] <Myrtti> I'm having my vegetarian phase again
[17:05] <ikonia> jpds: we need no translator bot
[17:05] <Pici> Was I dreaming or did I see a conversation about that in -ot yesterday?
[17:07] <jpds> ikonia: Ah. Didn't scroll up, sorry.
[17:19] <LjL> if you'd look at poor chanserv, you'd know he can't be granted +v by it
[17:35] <ubottu> brama called the ops in #kubuntu ()
[17:36] <jpds> Lost Spaniard.
[17:43] <LjL> wouldn't call him lost
[17:46] <Myrtti> http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/11/wal-mart-worker-trampled-to-death-in.html
[17:46] <Pici> Ugh, I dont even want to read that
[17:50] <Myrtti> nom cheese
[17:51] * jussi01 wants more morphine...
[17:51] <jussi01> no, actually:
[17:51] * jussi01 needs more morphine...
[18:09] <Myrtti> plip plop
[18:09] <Pici> fizz fizz
[19:28] <Flannel> oh what a relief it is
[19:57] <genii> /back
[19:58] <genii> bah
[19:58] * genii slides jussi01 a coffee instead
[20:01] <Flannel> ubottu: tell KatieKitty about away
[20:07] <genii> I see one fellow is chastising the bot for always telling him he's only a bot ....
[20:17] <Flannel> I'm amazed at how many people recommend doing things completely backwards.
[20:19] <Flannel> Myrtti: root account enabling hasn't actually broken anything since like Hoary or Dapper. It's just a Bad Idea (tm)
[20:19] <Myrtti> Flannel: well, some of the documentation needs revisiting then
[20:20] <Flannel> Which ones?
[20:20] <Myrtti> I just recently read someplace from the official docs that it breaks. Can't remember where though
[20:20] <Myrtti> and I should work a bit before heading to bed
[22:00] <thegeek1> ljl
[22:02] <thegeek1> hello
[22:05] <Myrtti> wth
[22:49] <Flannel> That certainly wasn't three weeks.
[22:50] <jussi01> Morning all!
[22:52] <Myrtti> jussi01: hows the medication?
[22:53] <jussi01> Myrtti: actually its been good, I strapped the knee up and the strapping has helped reduce the pain. just panadol at the moment - trying to keep the morphine to a minimum
[22:55] <Myrtti> good
[22:56] * jussi01 is really happy someone finally wrote a colored nick patch for quassel :D
[22:56] <Myrtti> childlike joy
[22:56] <Flannel> Just dont take it to #ubuntu... I'm not sure that 1500 colors exist.
[22:57] <jussi01> Flannel: lol, nah, some peiople are the same color
[22:57] <Flannel> jussi01: Ah, that's good. I was looking at my crayon box, and I think there's only 300
[22:58] <jussi01> although the colours currently are tango only, :/ Waiting for it to be oxygenised...
[23:16] <Myrtti> do I just imagine it or is orgthingy getting annoying at -ot?
[23:17] <Flannel> You're not imagining it, although I'm not sure Id categorize it as annoying personally
[23:19] <jussi01> ROFL... I tried to explain lag to my mum, and she was like, so its kinda like "internet constipation" ? :D :P
[23:37] <Myrtti> that's quite accurate