| === gletelli__ is now known as gletelli | |
| [04:51] <birnisson> hi, sorry to ask but are there kde 4.2 packages for intrepid? | |
| [05:13] <ScottK> birnisson: They are planned, but not until release. We'll have beta packages for Jaunty. (This is all IIRC). | |
| [05:13] <stdin> !neon | |
| [05:13] <ubottu> The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE for more | |
| [05:13] <stdin> there is ^ that if you really want the latest | |
| [05:15] <birnisson> nice thanks | |
| [11:04] <larsivi> hola | |
| [11:04] <larsivi> I have intrepid installed on my laptop, but normally use a larger external lcd attached to it - with hardy, this was autodiscovered, and kdm/kde was started in the resolution of this external screen | |
| [11:05] <larsivi> this doesn't happen anymore, but instead it auto-adjusts as I open the screen component in system settings ... what can I do, or where should I report the bug? | |
| [11:07] <larsivi> gotta run - my son threw up in the kindergarten :( | |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | |
| === gletelli__ is now known as gletelli | |
| [12:06] <ryanakca> I'm merging kiosktool... could someone provide me with a bit of inspiration as to why we have automake1.9 in the build-dep when Debian never has? | |
| [12:07] <ryanakca> please :) | |
| [12:07] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: probably because debian has a buildprep patch, which we don't keep? | |
| [12:07] <Hobbsee> or at least, don't usually keep | |
| [12:08] <Hobbsee> we tend to rerun autohell for all the builds, rather than do it as part of updating it, and having a massive patch | |
| [12:31] <apachelogger> ryanakca: kiosktool should be removed really | |
| [12:31] <apachelogger> it's only useful for KDE 3 really, and a finished KDE 4 port is not in sight | |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | |
| [13:01] <larsivi> hmm - any ideas? | |
| [13:28] <ScottK> larsivi: First, if it worked for you in Hardy, you are extraordinarily lucky. The Xinerama based dual screen solution we have in Hardy works for almost no one with a modern Xorg. | |
| [13:28] <larsivi> ScottK: no, not dual screen - I was never able to get that to work (except back before the "new" range of intel drivers) | |
| [13:29] <ScottK> Ah. I see. | |
| [13:29] <larsivi> ScottK: it is just duplicate screens, but with the larger external as the default | |
| [13:29] <ScottK> Right, even that is problematic. | |
| [13:29] <larsivi> I set some bios setting at one point to make sure it is enabled at start up | |
| [13:30] <ScottK> It's a known limitation of xrandr that it only supports rectangular surfaces. What this means is that both screens have to be at the same resolution. | |
| [13:30] <larsivi> for dual screen, yes? | |
| [13:30] <ScottK> I don't think dual/duplicate matters. | |
| [13:31] <ScottK> I think it's both. | |
| [13:31] <larsivi> no? it works just fine for me, but I have to open system settings, and open the screen option for it to click into place | |
| [13:31] <larsivi> the monitor on the laptop shows the upper left corner of the full desktop | |
| [13:32] <ScottK> OK. | |
| [13:32] <ScottK> I'm not sure then where the bug would be. | |
| [13:32] <larsivi> it also worked fine in gutsy before hardy, which I installed as a late alpha on the laptop back when the hardware was brander than brand new :) | |
| [13:33] <larsivi> and whatever was before gutsy on my old laptop :P | |
| [13:34] <larsivi> anyway, so this is almost the last annoyance left after the intrepid upgrade | |
| [13:34] <ScottK> In Feisty/Gutsy it all worked pretty well with Xinerama and Xorg, but then Xorg started to change and KDE didn't keep up. | |
| [13:34] <ScottK> So Hardy has a lot of known problems in this area and the tools for Intrepid are known to be incomplete. | |
| [13:35] <larsivi> well, I didn't use xinerama back then either, and kde not keeping up wasn't a problem, because the resolution was correct when X started | |
| [13:36] <larsivi> no, actually, there were some minor issues with feisty if I switched from no external to external, then kicker didn't move as it should (but could be moved manually), but otherwise it worked just fine :) | |
| [13:36] <larsivi> what was interesting was trying to get dual screen working before xrandr 1.2 - then it actually depended on the make of the monitor :P | |
| [13:37] <apachelogger> NCommander: kmix.post* are not supposed to be part of debian/ | |
| [13:38] <apachelogger> NCommander: Updated to reflect documentation removal (possibly bug ...) <= either it is a bug or it is not, noting that it might be one doesn't make it any more or less one | |
| [14:34] <nixternal> ho ho ho, merry nixmas! | |
| [14:35] <nixternal> oh wait, wrong month | |
| [14:37] <nixternal> is 4.2 beta getting into intrepid somehow? I have quite a few people asking for it | |
| [14:40] <JontheEchidna> nixternal: once it gets into Jaunty | |
| [14:40] <ScottK> nixternal: My recollection is that the plan was for intrepid-backports after release and the Kubuntu experimental PPA before. | |
| [14:40] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: ^^ Is that right? | |
| [14:40] <nixternal> nice | |
| [14:41] * nixternal wants to hack on Kubuntu today, but I have to finish other work first | |
| [14:41] <JontheEchidna> Correct, 4.2.0 goes in intrepid-backports, beta/prelease in general in kubuntu-experimental | |
| [14:41] <nixternal> you would think someone would have created an application that will profile your system's apps and then have a way to check them against a) the main distro and b) upstream | |
| [14:42] <jjesse> nixternal: would love to work on kubuntu stuyff today but will be driving to in laws today | |
| [14:42] <nixternal> they are up north? | |
| [14:43] <txwikinger> How far north :D | |
| [14:44] <nixternal> nowhere near the border :) | |
| [14:45] <nixternal> I thought one time he said traverse city, but I can't remember who the heck that was | |
| [14:45] <jjesse> nixternal: in laws in detroit | |
| [14:45] <jjesse> livonia | |
| [14:45] <jjesse> but staying with my brother and sister in law in yspilanti | |
| [14:45] <txwikinger> Detroit *is* near the border :p | |
| [14:46] <nixternal> jjesse: ahh, that's right..I remembered sort of from last year :) | |
| [14:46] <nixternal> jjesse: you should meet up with the michigan loco guys...they are all right in that area | |
| [14:46] <nixternal> greg-g is one dude you seriously have to meet and hang out with... that jcastro dude, foo him :p | |
| [14:47] <txwikinger> that reminds me.. I have to e-mail this jcastro dude | |
| [14:47] <jjesse> yeah i should | |
| [14:47] <jjesse> but my wife and her family plans all kinds of things to do | |
| [14:47] * txwikinger almost went to the Detroit intrepid release party | |
| [14:50] <jjesse> family football day on thursday morning then turkey time, then friday more things to do | |
| [14:50] <txwikinger> who are the Lions loosing against on Thursday? | |
| [14:51] <txwikinger> losing | |
| [14:52] <txwikinger> All this moving makes me lose focus on the important stuff :) | |
| [14:54] <jjesse> titans | |
| [14:54] <jjesse> and it is not blacked out | |
| [14:54] <jjesse> they sold out just before the deadline | |
| [14:56] <nixternal> I will pick Detroit to win against the Titans... 37 - 13 | |
| [14:57] <larsivi> what sport is that anyway, handball? :P | |
| [14:57] <nixternal> hahaha | |
| [14:57] <nixternal> futbol americana | |
| [14:57] <larsivi> ah, chicken football | |
| [14:57] <nixternal> rugby with pads | |
| [14:57] <larsivi> *rugby, not football | |
| [14:57] <nixternal> americans talk a big game, but they are really wimps...they have to wear pads | |
| [14:58] <larsivi> yeah, even the huge players | |
| [14:58] <larsivi> I actually have a friend here who's coaching the local team | |
| [14:58] <larsivi> they're fairly good in norway :P | |
| [14:59] <nixternal> i remember playing football when I was a kid w/o pads...everyone broke something | |
| [14:59] <nixternal> mostly collar bones | |
| [14:59] <nixternal> I think a broken collar bone is without a doubt the most painful bone break one could go through | |
| [15:00] <larsivi> ah debian packager I know of had to do major surgery on his shoulder after playing real rugby on some higher french level | |
| [15:01] <txwikinger> well. rugby is a contact sport... football is a collision sport | |
| [15:04] <txwikinger> How will the Lions get 37 points? No running game and a QB that throws all kinds of INTs | |
| [15:04] <larsivi> football is clearly not a collision sport unless you're very bad it - american football is a different matter though | |
| [15:05] <txwikinger> I talk about american football the other one is called soccer around here :p | |
| [15:06] <larsivi> txwikinger: yeah, I know you are crazy over there :) | |
| [15:07] <stdin> txwikinger: don't you think it's strange to call it "football" when one hardy ever uses one's foot? ;) | |
| [15:08] <txwikinger> stdin: Well.. you don't know the reason? | |
| [15:09] <stdin> nope | |
| [15:09] <txwikinger> The posh people play with the foot.. the not so posh take the dirty ball in the hand | |
| [15:10] <larsivi> eh, so the kicker is posh? and the rest are not? | |
| [15:10] <txwikinger> well.. the kickers are always outsiders... the can't even properly tackle | |
| [15:11] <larsivi> heh, I even hear one of the best superbowl kickers ever was norwegian :P | |
| [15:11] <txwikinger> Danish I believe... Mortensen, right? | |
| [15:11] <larsivi> no, not him | |
| [15:12] <txwikinger> He is the Kicker with the most career points | |
| [15:12] <larsivi> it is some years ago, but his record, whatever it was, lasted for a long time | |
| [15:12] <txwikinger> The most fun one was a kicker who came from Australian Rules Football | |
| [15:13] <txwikinger> He was one of the rare ones who could tackle | |
| [15:13] <larsivi> txwikinger: Jan Stenerud | |
| [15:13] <txwikinger> larsivi: That must have been long time ago | |
| [15:13] <larsivi> I said so :) | |
| [15:13] <txwikinger> 60s? | |
| [15:14] <larsivi> 60s-80s | |
| [15:14] <larsivi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Stenerud | |
| [15:18] <txwikinger> Ah .. with the Chiefs | |
| [16:48] <apachelogger> Nightrose: btw, is sound working yet? | |
| [17:13] <Nightrose> apachelogger: nope :( | |
| [17:14] <apachelogger> no sense this does make | |
| [17:17] <Nightrose> indeed | |
| [17:19] <apachelogger> ha! | |
| [17:19] <apachelogger> hu! | |
| [17:19] <apachelogger> he | |
| [17:19] <apachelogger> muhahahahahahahahaha | |
| [17:20] <apachelogger> Nightrose: do you belive in batman? | |
| [17:21] <Nightrose> definitely | |
| [17:24] <apachelogger> Nightrose: perfect | |
| [17:24] * apachelogger calls bruce and tells him to fix that package | |
| [17:24] <Nightrose> \o/ | |
| [17:26] <apachelogger> Nightrose: your .dev channel got a lot more weird | |
| [17:26] <Nightrose> apachelogger: how so? | |
| [17:26] <apachelogger> well, check it out | |
| [17:26] * Nightrose wasn't around since last evening | |
| [17:26] <Nightrose> k | |
| [17:27] <Nightrose> argh... | |
| [17:27] <Nightrose> yea | |
| [17:27] * Nightrose gets some food | |
| [17:27] <apachelogger> is it fooding time again? | |
| [17:27] <Nightrose> jep | |
| [17:27] <Nightrose> ;-) | |
| [17:27] <apachelogger> cool | |
| [17:31] <nixternal> mmm food | |
| [17:34] <Nightrose> hmmm nixternal: got a minute? or are you busy? | |
| [17:34] <apachelogger> nixternal: btw, are you back in development yet? | |
| [17:35] <nixternal> Nightrose: yes | |
| [17:35] <nixternal> apachelogger: yes | |
| [17:35] <nixternal> world: yes | |
| [17:35] <nixternal> !yes | |
| [17:35] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes | |
| [17:36] <Nightrose> nixternal: haha ok - then let's talk in kde-docs | |
| [17:36] * nixternal goes there | |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | |
| [17:44] * nixternal creates halitosis, the sys iso hal plugin | |
| [17:44] <JontheEchidna> haha | |
| [17:52] <Nightrose> Oo | |
| [18:46] <mib_gnq6ky> hey | |
| [18:46] <mib_gnq6ky> so are you going to release packages of kde 4.2 beta1 for intrepid? | |
| [18:59] <mib_gnq6ky> anyone knows there are going to be packages of kde 4.2 beta1 for intrepid? | |
| [19:04] <mib_gnq6ky> Xand3r: do you know if there are going to be packages of kde 4.2 beta1 for intrepid? | |
| [19:06] <Nightrose> mib_gnq6ky: there are going to be packages but due to the team being short on packagers currently it will take some time | |
| [19:06] <Nightrose> and no need to ask 3 times ;-) | |
| [19:07] <Arby> too late :) | |
| [19:07] <JontheEchidna> yay! | |
| [19:07] <Nightrose> meh | |
| [19:07] <Xand3r> hi Nightrose | |
| [19:07] <Nightrose> hi Xand3r | |
| [19:07] <Xand3r> how do you do? | |
| [19:07] <Nightrose> i love those people... | |
| [19:08] <Nightrose> pretty good - only downside is hat my openid provider is so slow that i can't log in anywhere | |
| [19:08] <Nightrose> which is a pita | |
| [19:08] <bobesponja> you should use a delegate on your own server | |
| [19:09] <Nightrose> jep - doesn't help me though with the services that have that login already ;-) | |
| [19:09] <bobesponja> services generally offer to modify your openid | |
| [19:09] <bobesponja> if not, shame on them :) | |
| [19:10] <Nightrose> doesn't look like i can do that | |
| [19:12] <bobesponja> if you tell them you forgot your password | |
| [19:16] <JontheEchidna> !info indy jaunty | |
| [19:16] <ubottu> Package indy does not exist in jaunty | |
| [19:16] <JontheEchidna> !info indi jaunty | |
| [19:16] <ubottu> indi (source: indi): INDI, instrument neutral distributed interface. In component main, is optional. Version 5:0.5-0ubuntu6 (jaunty), package size 625 kB, installed size 1600 kB | |
| [20:03] <danimo> heya | |
| [20:04] <danimo> anyone looking for 4.2b1 deb testers? | |
| [20:04] <danimo> :) | |
| [20:07] <danimo> Riddell: ping? | |
| [20:13] <Nightrose> danimo: apachelogger and JontheEchidna probably at one point | |
| [20:13] <Nightrose> though i doubt the packages are ready yet | |
| [20:13] <JontheEchidna> not ready! don't look! :p | |
| [20:13] <Nightrose> hihi | |
| [20:13] <JontheEchidna> things are going a bit slow probably due to Thanksgiving | |
| [20:14] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: any estimation we can give people who ask? | |
| [20:14] <JontheEchidna> that's the thing... | |
| [20:14] <JontheEchidna> hmm | |
| [20:15] <JontheEchidna> some modules might not be updated, but hopefully we can upload most of the stuff by tomorrow | |
| [20:15] <JontheEchidna> could happen today but I wouldn't make plans around that happening | |
| [20:48] <ryanakca> apachelogger: ok, so how do I ask to get it removed? | |
| [20:49] <ryanakca> apachelogger: file a bug on LP and then subscribe the mirror admins or <insert LP team> ? | |
| [20:56] <glade88> http://mjg59.livejournal.com/101706.html :( | |
| [21:08] <apachelogger> danimo: still gotta take quite some time, we are doing doubled reviewing for this release, so things take a lot longer | |
| [21:09] <apachelogger> !info kiosktool jaunty | |
| [21:09] <ubottu> kiosktool (source: kiosktool): tool to configure the KDE kiosk framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-2ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 256 kB, installed size 1732 kB | |
| [21:09] <apachelogger> ryanakca: file a bug report (content is somewhere described in a wiki page) and a get a MOTU to ack it | |
| [21:10] <apachelogger> the MOTU will then subscribe the archive admins | |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | |
| [22:49] <ryanakca> seele: What would be a good max-width for the wiki theme? | |
| [22:59] <seele> probably ~1000 pixels i think? maybe 1050 max? | |
| [22:59] <seele> otherwise the text is too hard to read | |
| [23:06] <jussi01> Who was it that was working on the system settings fglrx bug? | |
| [23:44] <james_w> hey, would somebody teach me a little about cmake so that I can debug something? | |
| [23:44] <james_w> tellico fails to build in jaunty as it uses -lkhtml, but that complains about a bunch of missing symbols, all the KJS ones | |
| [23:44] <manchicken> What do you want to know? | |
| [23:45] <james_w> tellico doesn't use any KJS ones, so it's not missing a direct link | |
| [23:45] <james_w> but something should be telling it to -lkjs when doing -lkhtml shouldn't it? | |
| [23:46] <manchicken> Well I guess then you need to know what's trying to hit up lkjs. | |
| [23:47] <james_w> libkhtml is | |
| [23:47] <james_w> bug 298269 | |
| [23:47] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 298269 in tellico "Please merge tellico 1.3.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298269 | |
| [23:49] * Hobbsee mutters abotu tellico | |
| [23:49] * Hobbsee put that change in svn,but no one ever uploaded it | |
| [23:51] <manchicken> You're pulling in khtml... that's what's complaining. | |
| [23:51] <manchicken> Hobbsee! | |
| [23:51] <manchicken> Howdy. | |
| [23:51] <Hobbsee> hey manchicken! | |
| [23:51] * Hobbsee thought you'd left! | |
| [23:52] <manchicken> I did for a while. | |
| [23:52] <manchicken> Kids take a little while to get used to. | |
| [23:53] <manchicken> And then of course I've all but gone completely mac these days. | |
| [23:53] <manchicken> Tonio_ told me that I should come around here again and say hi. | |
| [23:53] <Hobbsee> heh | |
| [23:53] <Hobbsee> still using gnome, then? | |
| [23:54] <manchicken> I've been ramping up on my French lately since my wife and I want our kid to be bilingual, so I've been fooling myself into thinking that I could maybe help with some translations or something. Dunno. | |
| [23:54] <manchicken> Naw, I haven't run Ubuntu for almost 3 months. | |