2008/11/21/#launchpad.txt

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[00:58] <hggdh> ping for LP operator
[00:59] <wgrant> hggdh: You might do better to just ask your question now.
[00:59] <wgrant> Then people can ping the appropriate people if necessary..
[00:59] <hggdh> please block launchpad user rutadeevacuacion@msn.com -- opening a series of non-sensical bugs
[00:59] <wgrant> Again!?
[00:59] <hggdh> yes...
[01:00] <wgrant> spm: Didn't you kill two instances of him already?
[01:00] <wgrant> hggdh: What's the username?
[01:00] <hggdh> rutadeevacuacion@msn.com
[01:00] <wgrant> That's not a Launchpad username.
[01:00] <wgrant> The bit in the URL.
[01:00] <Hobbsee> username, not email.
[01:00] <spm> wgrant: whackamole.....
[01:00] <hggdh> damn!
[01:00] <wgrant> There are at least two accounts i know of with that display name.
[01:01] <hggdh> rutadeevacuacion
[01:01] <wgrant> Hmmmm
[01:01] <wgrant> So these accounts are coming back to life? Wonderful.
[01:01] <hggdh> it actually looks like an automation gone bad
[01:02] <wgrant> Ooh.
[01:02] <wgrant> Creative.
[01:02] <wgrant> Linking to blueprints now.
[01:03] <hggdh> yes... and subcribing other ppl
[01:03] <wgrant> Oh dear.
[01:03] <angusthefuzz> ironically some are linked to spamassassin and clamav blueprints
[01:04] <wgrant> Hmmmm.
[01:04] <spm> hggdh: can you shoot me a link to one of the bugs - verify I've zapped the right accounts again
[01:04] <wgrant> Bug #299331 is one of his that I can't see.
[01:04] <ubottu> Bug 299331 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/299331 is private
[01:04] <wgrant> At least, I presume it's his.
[01:04] <hggdh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/300479
[01:04] <wgrant> Because it's on his pet blueprint.
[01:04] <ubottu> Error: This bug is private
[01:04] <wgrant> Bug #300475
[01:04] <ubottu> Bug 300475 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/300475 is private
[01:04] <wgrant> That's one of his that I *can* see.
[01:04] <hggdh> darn. wgrant, are you not in bug-control?
[01:05] <wgrant> hggdh: I am.
[01:05] <spm> wgrant: hggdh: ta - that's them
[01:06] <hggdh> we have to give him/her at least a bit of credit for being creative
[01:06] <persia> Or at least persistent
[01:06] <wgrant> What's that other project that he's filing things like #299331 on?
[01:06] <wgrant> persia: No, there's a few different types of spam produced by that user.
[01:07] <persia> wgrant, Yes.  I see that.  The persistent comment was about account creation.
[01:07] <hggdh> someone should tell her/him we are already over 300,000 bugs, so the bet (of when) is gone
[01:08] <wgrant> persia: I only know of 2 accounts... but they come back to life after spm kills them.
[01:08] <wgrant> LP doesn't kill accounts hard enough, it would seem,
[01:08] <persia> Hrm.  Frustrating that.
[01:08] <wgrant> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/51951
[01:08] <wgrant> What the.
[01:10] <Hobbsee> can't you just block his IPs or something?
[01:10] <wgrant> spm: You might want to remove the bugs links that I can't from https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/3g-networking-intrepid
[01:10] <spiv> Possibly they're using unique strings so they can try them in search engines later, to see how useful LP as a place to spam?
[01:11] <wgrant> spiv: But then they make them private...
[01:11] <wgrant> After they file them.
[01:11] <hggdh> should we remove the links from the blueprint?
[01:11] <spiv> But bug notification emails get sent first?
[01:11] <wgrant> Hmm, some of them are after an hour or two.
[01:11] <wgrant> Good ppoint.
[01:11] <spiv> And publically archived...
[01:12] <wgrant> hggdh: I've done those I can, but spm will have to do the rest.
[01:12] <wgrant> Kill kill kill.
[01:12] <spm> wgrant: if only it was that easy.....
[01:12] <hggdh> yes, I see...
[01:12] <wgrant> spm: You're in ~admins, so you can surely see all of them...
[01:12] <spm> see != delete :-(
[01:12] <wgrant> Huh?
[01:13] <wgrant> Why not?
[01:13] <wgrant> I can delete any links I see.
[01:14] <spm> wgrant: then clearly I am being UI challenged. :-) Where/how?
[01:14] <wgrant> spm:
[01:14] <wgrant> Gah.
[01:14] <wgrant> 'Remove bug link' or similar in the actions menu on the blueprint.
[01:14] <spm> ah *insert rude words*
[01:14] <spm> ta
[01:14] <wgrant> You'll then get checkboxes for the links to all the bugs you can see.
[01:14] <Ursinha> want to see too
[01:14] <wgrant> Blueprint has needed some love for too many years.
[01:14] <spm> wgrant: much appreciated - abolsute power doesn't equal cleverness :-)
[01:15] <Ursinha> or you mean just the remove bug link
[01:15] <Ursinha> oh, ok
[01:15] <spm> wgrant: right -how's that look?
[01:16] <wgrant> spm: That blueprint looks much better. But there might be others around.
[01:17] <hggdh> well. I guess I found a boring way to improve my karma
[01:17] <wgrant> Did the discussion about bug deletion overnight that branched from the dev meeting come to a reasonable conclusion?
[01:17] <wgrant> hggdh: I think spm should be about to make those bugs invisible by removing all subscribers.
[01:18] <hggdh> ah, even better. Thank you, I was getting tired
[01:18] <hggdh> (but if they are kept open they will pollute the stats)
[01:19] <wgrant> hggdh: No they won't, because the user generating stats isn't in ~admins, so won't be able to see that they exist.
[01:19] <hggdh> k, thanks
[01:20] <spm> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/clamav-spamassassin-in-main - cleanedup
[01:23] <wgrant> spm: Thanks.
[01:24] <hggdh> pfui
[01:24] <hggdh> thanks, folks
[01:41] <jml> Depressing fact: Gobby is one of the most useful tools I have.
[01:50] <lszyba1> hello,
[01:50] <lszyba1> mysql source browsing doesn't work:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/mysql-5.0/files
[01:51] <lszyba1> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[01:51] <Hobbsee> what, again?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> spm: do you know why?
[01:52] <spiv> mwhudson: ^
[01:52] <Hobbsee> oh
[01:53] <spm> usually means codebrowse needs bouncing
[01:53] <spm> lszyba1: give it a few minutes and should be ok again
[01:54] <lszyba1> k
[01:54]  * spm switches from Jean Michel Jarre, to Wolfmother as I begin the rollout prep :-)
[01:57]  * Hobbsee wonders if a queue fix got rolled out in the latest release.
[02:00] <jml> wolfmother
[02:00] <jml> of coures
[02:01] <jml> that's what I've been missing :)
[02:02] <spm> jml: it was that or creed - and I'm feeling more.. wolfmotherish today :-)
[02:02] <spm> Led Zepplin just doesn't work for release prep work
[02:07]  * wgrant was amused to see lots of the 'now playing' in RF commit messages.
[02:09] <spm> likewise - I tend to leave it on DI Trace - less "distracting", but some tasks need "loud and rock" :-)
[02:09] <jml> I'm not a huge fan of that habit...
[02:09] <jml> we should store that information in revision properties.
[02:09] <wgrant> Hahah.
[02:10] <wgrant> Yes, abusing commit messages for metadata... tsk tsk.
[02:10] <jml> wgrant: so, where can you see the RF commit messages?
[02:10] <wgrant> jml: On the testing pages on dev.launchpad.net
[02:10] <jml> ahh, that makes sense.
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[02:19] <thumper> abentley: back
[02:19] <thumper> hmm
[02:19] <thumper> not the channel I thought I was on
[02:19] <abentley> thumper: Hee.
[02:55] <spm> FYI All, running a bit slow on the release - be delayed rolling out by ~15 minutes - hopefully
[02:58]  * Hobbsee turns spm's music up
[02:58] <spm> Van Halen. 1984. Hobbsee - thank you :-)
[02:59] <Hobbsee> :)
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[03:37] <spm> FYI All, release is postponed - to when is currently undetermined.
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[03:41] <Hobbsee> ouch?
[03:41]  * thumper raises hand
[03:41] <thumper> my fault
[03:55] <wgrant> spm: Does edge's proxy need its icing reverted?
[03:55] <spm> wgrant: chasing atm
[03:56] <wgrant> spm: Thanks.
[04:18] <spm> wgrant: should be fixored
[04:23] <wgrant> spm: It would appear so. Thanks.
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[08:28] <nomed> hi all
[08:28] <nomed> a quick question
[08:28] <nomed> is there any way to download trasnlations from launchpad
[08:28] <nomed> i'd need to create a cronjob
[09:37] <gouki> Hi everyone. Just a quick question ... PPAs or only given to teams, and not projects, correct?
[09:38] <wgrant> gouki: Teams and people, yes.
[09:38] <gouki> wgrant, thank you.
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[10:50] <persia> fta, About?
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[13:44] <oldman> I had a weird "Your message was rejected" e-mail from launchpad-bugs-owner about my vcs-imports request
[13:44] <oldman> https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/zquake/trunk
[13:44] <oldman> but it still says 'Pending review' on the page
[13:44] <oldman> any idea what's up?
[13:45] <kiko> oldman, can you put the message in a paste?
[13:46] <oldman> Your message was rejected
[13:46] <oldman> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
[13:46] <oldman> From: oldman <oldmanuk@gmail.com>
[13:46] <oldman> To: launchpad-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
[13:46] <oldman> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:46:51 -0000
[13:46] <oldman> Subject: New code import: zquake/trunk
[13:46] <oldman> A new code import has been requested by oldman: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/zquake/trunk
[13:46] <oldman> --
[13:46] <oldman> You are getting this email because you are a member of the vcs-imports team.
[13:46] <oldman> ^ literally just that :)
[13:47] <kiko> that's weird.
[13:47] <kiko> you're sure you didn't mis-send that yourself?
[13:47] <oldman> heh
[13:47] <oldman> Received: from chlorine.canonical.com (chlorine.canonical.com [91.189.94.204])
[13:47] <oldman> *shrug*
[13:48] <kiko> that's kinda what I was looking for in the paste, but ok
[13:48] <kiko> I'll forward this to mwh and thumper
[13:48] <kiko> actually
[13:48] <kiko> oldman, can I ask you to ask a question up on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar and stick the message in there?
[13:48] <oldman> i can paste the full headers if you want
[13:48] <oldman> ok sure
[13:48] <kiko> oldman, that way it gets tracked properly and you get notified that we fixed it
[13:49] <kiko> thanks really appreciate your effort bringing it to my attention
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[13:55] <oldman> kiko-fud: seems like someone has already asked
[13:55] <oldman> kiko-fud: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+question/51619
[13:55] <oldman> :)
[14:35] <kiko-fud> oldman, dupefinder strikes again! thanks twice
[14:35] <oldman> :)
[14:36] <oldman> feel free to do the review for my vcs-import though :)
[14:38] <kiko-fud> oldman, done
[14:39] <oldman> wow thanks
[14:39] <oldman> btw off topic, but bazaar plugins, do they need to be python?
[14:40] <kiko-fud> oldman, practically speaking yes, though you can get creating with the C python API and bust out of that..
[14:41] <oldman> I currently have some bash --> cmdline stuff do push changes to CMVC
[14:41] <oldman> but i'd need to learn python better to write it up as a proper plugin
[14:42] <kiko-fud> but python is so easy, and bzrlib is /really/ easy
[14:42] <oldman> :-
[14:42] <kiko-fud> oldman, so I don't think it's that hard a project
[14:42] <oldman> :)
[14:43] <kiko-fud> okay, afk for a few hours!
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[14:43] <oldman> unfortunately some of the code base I work with has a silly 'top of the file' changelog
[14:43] <oldman> and that always conflicts during merge
[14:44] <kiko-afk> hmm. you might be actually able to write a plugin to handle that better
[14:44]  * kiko-afk thought such a thing actually existed
[14:46] <kiko-afk> oldman, can you give me a URL with the full email with headers of that weird email response you got?
[14:46] <oldman> kiko-afk: sure, give me 1 minute
[14:48] <kiko_> oldman, can you give me a URL with the full email with headers of that weird email response you got?
[14:48] <oldman> kiko_: sure, give me 1 minute :)
[14:48] <kiko_> thanks
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[16:37] <mrooney> Is there a way to have one username forward to another?
[16:38] <mrooney> In an incredibly longstanding issue with Canonical-Sysadmins, I have to change my LP username to get an @ubuntu email forward, but if I lose the old one it will be rather invasive to my identity and projects and thus far.
[16:43] <matsubara_> why do you have to change your LP username to get an @ubuntu email?
[16:43] <matsubara_> mrooney: ^
[16:43] <mrooney> matsubara_: someone already has the forward that corresponds to my LP username
[16:44] <mrooney> and apparently there is no way for me to get a non-matching forward
[16:45] <mrooney> so the only way to get one is to change my LP username to something for which a forward doesn't exist
[16:48] <matsubara_> yeah, I think that's the only way then. It'd be quite suprising for people emailing foo@ubuntu expecting those emails to arrive to foo, when in fact they arrive to you.
[16:48] <matsubara_> what's your concern in changing your current LP username to something that the sysadmins can generate an @ubuntu email for you?
[16:49] <mrooney> Because I already have been using it for over a year on wiki pages, emails, logged chats, and released code.
[16:50] <mrooney> ...blueprints, etc.
[16:50] <mrooney> now all those links will be broken
[16:55] <matsubara_> mrooney: I see, and yeah, that's unfortunate.
[16:56] <mrooney> matsubara_: so you don't know of any way to accomplish a 'forward'?
[16:58] <matsubara_> mrooney: nope. I'm thinking of a way to help you
[16:59] <mrooney> Okay :)
[17:02] <matsubara_> mrooney: only way I can think of is for you to create a new profile. rename your existing one to something else that's an acceptable @ubuntu email, and then rename the new profile to your current profile and add a notice there pointing to your new nick.
[17:02] <matsubara_> that way you keep your karma, bug reports, etc attached to your new nickname, and people following links outside of LP will know how to reach you
[17:02] <matsubara_> after some time you can merge the two
[17:03] <mrooney> that makes sense
[17:03] <matsubara_> mrooney: and yes, that's quite a horrible workaround, but...
[17:03] <mrooney> But why make a new profile then rename it once I rename my current one? Can't I just make a new one with the old name, once I rename my current one?
[17:05] <matsubara_> mrooney: yeah, as long nobody registers it in the mean time :-)
[17:05] <mrooney> Hm, renaming works faster then creating a new account?
[17:06] <matsubara_> well, when you rename, you're freeing up the old name. if someone register a new account in the mean time and take that name, you lose it.
[17:07] <mrooney> Right
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[21:46] <synic> is there a way to delete a project?
[21:46] <mwhudson> synic: ask a question at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[21:47] <synic> k
[22:21] <bmm> Yeah! I joined the channel to ask wether and when Jaunty would be available to build to in my PPA, but it looks like it's already there. So anyway, loving that PPA!
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