| [01:33] <freetown> anybody here using Promethean boards? | |
| [01:34] <sbalneav> No, link? | |
| [01:36] <freetown> this one should be good: http://www.prometheanworld.com/us/ | |
| [01:37] <freetown> i heard there was a beta for ActivStudio on Linux...and a promethean contact told me that they would finally be doing a release in a few months...and ubuntu was one of the platform distros | |
| [01:37] <freetown> just wondered if any here had a go with the beta | |
| [01:39] <sbalneav> Not that I'm aware of. | |
| [01:40] <sbalneav> This cheeses me off to no end. | |
| [01:40] <sbalneav> sbalneav@phobos:~/Devel/bzr/ltsp-docs-trunk$ docbook2txt LTSPManual.xml | |
| [01:40] <sbalneav> Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/catalog | |
| [01:40] <sbalneav> Using stylesheet: /usr/share/docbook-utils/docbook-utils.dsl#html | |
| [01:40] <sbalneav> I'm trying to get plaintext docs for vagrant. | |
| [01:40] <sbalneav> WHY'S IT USING THE HTML STYLESHEET? | |
| [01:40] <sbalneav> styupid Thang | |
| [02:52] <LaserJock> sbalneav: you workin' tonight? | |
| [03:18] <sbalneav> I am! | |
| [03:18] <sbalneav> Hot into the docs, ATM | |
| [04:45] <LaserJock> sbalneav: lol, you actually use GNU/Linux? :-) | |
| [04:57] <sbalneav> heh | |
| [04:57] <sbalneav> Looking at the docs? | |
| [04:58] <sbalneav> Hold on, lemme push the latest, MUCH CLEANED UP docs... | |
| [05:00] <sbalneav> LaserJock: pushed | |
| [05:05] <LaserJock> sbalneav: pretty darn impressive | |
| [05:07] <sbalneav> Getting there. | |
| [05:08] <sbalneav> Getting it organized is surprisingly difficult | |
| [05:09] <LaserJock> sbalneav: are you gonna put it up on ltsp.org when you're done? | |
| [05:09] <sbalneav> There's such a lot of disparate information in there. | |
| [05:09] <sbalneav> Already there | |
| [05:10] <sbalneav> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream | |
| [05:11] <LaserJock> ah, cool | |
| [05:12] <sbalneav> Here's an interesting one. | |
| [05:12] <sbalneav> I'd like to get a plaintext formatted version of the docs (.txt file) | |
| [05:12] <sbalneav> but when I do docbook2txt LTSPManual.xml | |
| [05:12] <sbalneav> it formats it with the html stylesheet. | |
| [05:14] <LaserJock> hmm, interesting | |
| [05:14] <LaserJock> I don't know that I've ever tried docbook2txt | |
| [05:58] <LaserJock> sbalneav: you use sabayon or pesselus at all? | |
| [06:00] <sbalneav> LaserJock: No, I just set up default panel entries | |
| [06:04] <LaserJock> sbalneav: so you don't lock down at all? | |
| [06:04] <LaserJock> I guess with your setting you can assume the users will behave better ;-) | |
| [06:05] <sbalneav> yeah | |
| [06:07] <LaserJock> sabayon seems to be really in bad shape | |
| [06:07] <LaserJock> I wonder if Edubuntu could put some concerted effort into it | |
| [14:43] <sbalneav> Morning all | |
| [18:07] <Fritz87> hello everyone | |
| [18:17] <Lns> Hi Fritz87 | |
| === merriam_ is now known as merriam | |
| [19:10] <LaserJock> hello all | |
| [19:11] <sbalneav> Hey LaserJock | |
| [19:12] <LaserJock> Scottie! | |
| [19:13] <LaserJock> sbalneav: are you wanting a package for the LTSP docs like now? | |
| [19:14] <LaserJock> sbalneav: doh, lynx was the key to getting docbook2txt to work? | |
| [19:14] <sbalneav> Errr | |
| [19:14] <sbalneav> Sure :) | |
| [19:14] <LaserJock> lol | |
| [19:14] <sbalneav> It would be great if you could show me how to get something I could put in my PPA | |
| [19:14] <LaserJock> I'm just wondering how close you are to feeling "done" with it | |
| [19:14] <sbalneav> Well, if I could do it with my PPA, I could just update them whenever. | |
| [19:15] <sbalneav> They've got weeks and weeks of work until they're "done".... If ever :) | |
| [19:15] <LaserJock> k | |
| [19:15] <LaserJock> well, at some point do you want it to go into Ubuntu? | |
| [19:15] <LaserJock> we could make it a dep of ltsp or something | |
| [19:16] <sbalneav> Well, I guess my goal is to have something half-decent for inclusion in Jaunty | |
| [19:16] <sbalneav> I'd say I'm at least 70% of the way there. | |
| [19:16] <sbalneav> At some point I'll hit 80%, then the 80/20 rule will kick in, but for now, I could have something "more or less" ready in another week or two | |
| [19:16] <LaserJock> I don't see where you install the .txt version in your install rule | |
| [19:17] <sbalneav> so if we start on the packaging now, that'd be great. | |
| [19:17] <sbalneav> how hard is it? | |
| [19:17] <LaserJock> is what? | |
| [19:18] <sbalneav> the packaging part | |
| [19:18] <LaserJock> oh, well I can get you one that will install in ~ 5min or so | |
| [19:19] <LaserJock> getting one that's perfect will take a bit of tweaking to make sure everything is all nice | |
| [19:19] <sbalneav> You are so beautiful... to me.... | |
| [19:19] <LaserJock> put just installing the pdf, html, and txt is trivial | |
| [19:19] <LaserJock> it's getting it all set up with yelp that takes a bit more effort | |
| [19:19] <LaserJock> as it's more than just dropping files in | |
| [19:20] <LaserJock> but not much more | |
| [19:20] <sbalneav> well, if we could just get the (pdf,html,txt) files in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-docs, that'd be awesome. The yelp thing would be perfectamundo. | |
| [19:21] <LaserJock> we should also install for Khelpcenter as well | |
| [19:21] <sbalneav> yessir | |
| [19:21] <LaserJock> you know, just in case people are using that *other* DE | |
| [19:21] <sbalneav> Phhht. | |
| [19:21] * sbalneav looks around for Aaron Seigo | |
| [19:22] <LaserJock> Khelpcenter uses HTML still I think | |
| [19:22] <sbalneav> That guy's like 10 feet tall, and can melt skyscrapers with hit *mind* man. | |
| [19:22] <LaserJock> you just need to drop a .desktop in the right I think | |
| [19:22] <sbalneav> We don't want to cheese him off. | |
| [19:22] <LaserJock> lol | |
| [19:23] <sbalneav> whoops s/hit/his/ | |
| [19:31] <sbalneav> That'll teach you to show up in #ltsp :) | |
| [19:31] <LaserJock> I guess | |
| [19:31] <sbalneav> We'll have you writing code next. | |
| [19:31] <sbalneav> :) | |
| [19:31] <LaserJock> nuts ... all nuts I tell you | |
| [19:32] <sbalneav> Nah, just makes sense, if you're going to give me a hand with this, you might as well have permission to -trunk | |
| [19:32] <LaserJock> it's a good thing you caught me on my birthday, I'm in a giving mood ;-) | |
| [19:32] <sbalneav> Is it your Birfday today? | |
| [19:33] * sbalneav slides LaserJock a pale amber carbonated beverage | |
| [19:33] <sbalneav> Happy birthday! | |
| [19:33] <ogra> HAPPY BDAY ! | |
| [19:33] <LaserJock> yeah, I'm feeling old today | |
| [19:34] <sbalneav> All in favour of voting LaserJock a Fine Upstanding Citizen, and Capital Fellow, vote now! | |
| [19:34] <sbalneav> ++ | |
| [19:35] <LaserJock> yeah, exactly what I thought ;-p | |
| [19:40] <ogra> ++ | |
| [19:47] <Lns> LaserJock: Happy bday! *hands LJ another beer to doublefist* | |
| [19:47] <Moonstorm> does one even need a client with this? | |
| [19:47] <LaserJock> Moonstorm: with Edubuntu? | |
| [19:47] <Moonstorm> wireless usb to vga adapter? | |
| [19:48] <Moonstorm> wouldn't one be able to open a session on the server? | |
| [19:48] <Moonstorm> http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=1525&sku=29572&cm_mmc_o=HC4zbkCjC8bywkwll%20JmP%20VyBFB%20C%20niiovvvoCjCW-CjCW- | |
| [19:49] <Moonstorm> nm, it appears that may only be one display at a time, ie login at a time | |
| [20:58] <EeyoreJr> local usb works? no? | |
| [20:59] <EeyoreJr> i was thinking i saw this a while ago | |
| [20:59] <sbalneav> EeyoreJr: You can mount usb sticks, drives, and cdroms yes. | |
| [21:02] <EeyoreJr> wacom tablets? | |
| [21:17] <EeyoreJr> nubae: hi. i'm setting up fatclient in dhcpd.conf. i have a question | |
| [21:17] <EeyoreJr> host fatclient1 { | |
| [21:17] <EeyoreJr> hardware ethernet the:thin:client:mac:add:ress; | |
| [21:17] <EeyoreJr> fixed-address 192.168.0.2; | |
| [21:17] <EeyoreJr> } | |
| [21:17] <EeyoreJr> i assume that i must enter a line "hardware ethernet mac_addres;" for each client | |
| [21:18] <EeyoreJr> the fixed-address line, requires me to enter an ip for each client as well? | |
| [21:18] <EeyoreJr> and "host fatclient1, 2, 3, for each client? | |
| [21:18] <Eghie> EeyoreJr: make new sections for new client | |
| [21:18] <Eghie> so every client has a host section | |
| [21:19] <EeyoreJr> so, host fatclient2, fatclient2, etc. | |
| [21:20] <Eghie> like this: http://pastebin.com/m4d584740 | |
| [21:21] <EeyoreJr> Eghie: great, awesome, and thx | |
| [21:21] <Eghie> no problem | |
| [21:22] <EeyoreJr> nubae: script also has thin clients in his script. do i need to setup the thin clients as well or allow them to do it on thier own ? | |
| [21:23] <EeyoreJr> er, will the thin clients continue to function on thier own | |
| [21:28] <EeyoreJr> ifconfig shows the address of the server mac address, not the local | |
| [21:30] <Eghie> hmm, LTSP uses Bash scripts to configure the client, guess it's very adaptable to customizations | |
| [21:34] <EeyoreJr> what is kiwi-ltsp ? | |
| [21:35] <Eghie> my hardy APT doesn't even know kiwi-ltsp | |
| [21:36] <Eghie> don't have access to Intrepid at the moment though | |
| [21:39] <Eghie> so, don't know | |
| [21:44] <LaserJock> EeyoreJr: kiki-ltsp is openSUSE's LTSP implementation | |
| [21:44] <EeyoreJr> ah. ok | |
| [21:45] <EeyoreJr> how does one find the address of the thin client in ubuntu ltsp? | |
| [21:45] <LaserJock> EeyoreJr: of a currentlly connected on? | |
| [21:46] <EeyoreJr> yes | |
| [21:46] <LaserJock> I'm not a LTSP guy so I'm not much help | |
| [21:46] <EeyoreJr> for example, i'm on a thin client now. if i do ifconfig or lspci i get the server info | |
| [21:46] <LaserJock> but does ip a in a terminal give anything useful? | |
| [21:46] <LaserJock> ah, i wondered | |
| [21:48] <LaserJock> EeyoreJr: can you do a Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to a virtual console | |
| [21:48] <LaserJock> I think those are supposed to be on the client | |
| [21:49] <EeyoreJr> ctl-alt-f1 gets me a virtual console but won't allow login | |
| [21:49] <EeyoreJr> hrm | |
| [21:50] <LaserJock> I think you need to set a root password in the chroot | |
| [21:50] <LaserJock> and then you can log in as root on your client | |
| [22:45] <EeyoreJr> http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/ - is this document current? | |
| [22:45] <LaserJock> no | |
| [22:45] <EeyoreJr> grr | |
| [22:46] <LaserJock> I think it was updated for Gutsy | |
| [22:46] <EeyoreJr> ITalC is a gui for machine management where sayabon is a gui for user management | |
| [22:46] <LaserJock> right | |
| [22:46] <EeyoreJr> is there a current up to date document? | |
| [22:46] <LaserJock> sbalneav is working on one, one sec | |
| [22:46] <EeyoreJr> i've noticed this as well pessulus | |
| [22:47] <LaserJock> EeyoreJr: http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html | |
| [22:47] <LaserJock> EeyoreJr: what is the problem? | |
| [22:48] <EeyoreJr> i'm trying to locate the mac addresses for the thin clients | |
| [22:48] <EeyoreJr> ifconfig and ip and lspci show the server info | |
| === ogra_ is now known as ogra | |
| [22:50] <EeyoreJr> nm, u answered it in the other forum | |
| [22:50] <stgraber> EeyoreJr: arp -n | grep $LTSP_CLIENT | |
| [22:50] <EeyoreJr> DHCPREQUEST for 10.2.2.41 from 00:e0:b8:30:f5:5c via eth1: wrong network ... r others attempting to connect ? | |
| [23:03] <EeyoreJr> the doc covers sabayon, but not Pessulus? is pessulus | |
| [23:04] <LaserJock> EeyoreJr: is pessulus ... ? | |
| [23:12] <EeyoreJr> integrated? | |
| [23:13] <EeyoreJr> nm. i see this is a draft | |
| [23:13] <EeyoreJr> i'll work around it and figure it out | |
| [23:15] <LaserJock> sabayon are related but different programs | |
| [23:15] <LaserJock> sabayon is more of a profile editor | |
| [23:15] <LaserJock> where pessulus is a lockdown editor | |
| [23:16] <LaserJock> pessulus doesn't do as much, but I think it does what it does better | |
| [23:16] <LaserJock> sabayon tends to not be as stable | |
| [23:32] <EeyoreJr> pessulus does better than sabayon? it sounds as though they provide different functions | |
| [23:32] <EeyoreJr> doesn't ubuntu have a lockdown editor? | |
| [23:33] <EeyoreJr> A fatal error has occurred. You can help us fix the problem by sending the log in /root/sabayon-debug-log.conf to http://bugzilla.gnome.org | |
| [23:33] <EeyoreJr> well, i'm hungry. it's qutting time | |