| [02:23] <Xang> Can someone clean up ubuntu-es please? There is a flooder. | |
| [02:25] <Pici> LjL, elkbuntu: Around? ^^ | |
| [02:25] <elkbuntu> i cant do anything to help, sorry | |
| [02:25] <elkbuntu> at least, i dont think | |
| [02:26] <Pici> elkbuntu: ack, I assumed that the irccouncil had access there, doesnt look like it. | |
| [02:27] <Pici> effie_jayx just took care of it | |
| [02:27] <Xang> It is being taken care of now. Thanks. | |
| [02:27] <Xang> :) | |
| [02:28] <elkbuntu> yep | |
| [02:28] <elkbuntu> he struck as i entered | |
| [02:28] <[NikO]> uBOTu-fr have autoban feature with flood and repeat detection | |
| [02:29] <elkbuntu> the main channels do too | |
| [02:29] <elkbuntu> with the floodbots | |
| [04:37] <effie_jayx> hello all | |
| [04:38] <effie_jayx> LjL, ping | |
| [04:38] <effie_jayx> anyone around? | |
| [04:39] <nalioth> hola | |
| [04:39] <tritium> hello | |
| [04:48] <effie_jayx> sorry to cry wolf, just to ask on what to do | |
| [04:48] <effie_jayx> #ubuntu-es seems a mess and it is basically bad IRC admin | |
| [04:49] <effie_jayx> I am one of the ops, but policies are comanded in a team and the teams seems very disfunctional | |
| [04:49] <effie_jayx> all the people have very different ideas of what we want from the channel | |
| [05:58] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, is that the cause of the flooding today? | |
| [05:59] <effie_jayx> not the cause | |
| [05:59] <effie_jayx> the lack of active ops | |
| [05:59] <effie_jayx> flooding happens everyday | |
| [05:59] <elkbuntu> :( | |
| [05:59] <effie_jayx> the fact that there are no good ops to herd the crowds there... leads to flodding | |
| [06:00] <effie_jayx> somehting must be done | |
| [06:00] <effie_jayx> I mean, #ubuntu-es must be a central point for all spanish speaing locos | |
| [06:00] <effie_jayx> it is were we give support | |
| [06:00] <effie_jayx> it is the equivalent of #ubuntu but in spanish | |
| [06:01] <elkbuntu> agreed on both counts. | |
| [06:01] <effie_jayx> it is redundant to give support in each and every spanish loco irc channel | |
| [06:01] <elkbuntu> has there been a meeting of the ops of the channel? | |
| [06:01] <effie_jayx> last one last year | |
| [06:02] <effie_jayx> thing is .. PELICANO | |
| [06:02] <effie_jayx> the guy is so overprotective over his role | |
| [06:02] <effie_jayx> and I am honest here. I admit I haven't been that active myself | |
| [06:03] <effie_jayx> but there are issues that scale to the point of ops contradicting eachother | |
| [06:03] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu, a meeting you suggest... I say yes. but it has to be a meeting iwth members of the ubuntu-irc team as well | |
| [06:04] <effie_jayx> pelicano is not easily convinced that we need new ops. | |
| [06:04] <effie_jayx> and LjL knows of what I speak | |
| [06:05] <elkbuntu> then ljl and jpds are probably your best bet as representatives. | |
| [06:05] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu, great, I shall arrange for this to happen then | |
| [06:07] <effie_jayx> elkbuntu, btw the name changed... it is santiago javier | |
| [06:47] <elkbuntu> effie_jayx, heh | |
| [11:15] <[NikO]> effie_jayx: perhaps, if needed ubotu-fr can join and activate flood/repeat protection, that will help for the lack of active ops | |
| [12:20] <effie_jayx> [NikO], that would be usefull | |
| [12:21] <[NikO]> ok | |
| [12:23] <[NikO]> bot will need a OiA flag | |
| [12:23] <effie_jayx> [NikO], OiA?, sorry I am not IRC bot literate | |
| [12:24] <[NikO]> /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-es add uBOTu-fr +OiA | |
| [12:25] <[NikO]> i thinks | |
| [12:25] <effie_jayx> ufff | |
| [12:30] <effie_jayx> [NikO], I might have to wait for the founder of the channel for him to give it access | |
| [12:30] <[NikO]> ok, bot is in, when it s done, just kick him | |
| [12:31] <effie_jayx> [NikO], when it's done? | |
| [12:31] <[NikO]> when access change | |
| [12:32] <effie_jayx> ok | |
| [19:20] <MTecknology> Anybody around? | |
| [19:21] <PriceChild> What's up? | |
| [19:21] <jussi01> heya MTecknology | |
| [19:21] <MTecknology> jussi01: hi | |
| [19:22] <MTecknology> I'm taking over the Ubuntu SD LoCo Team and wanna make sure I'm doing the channel right. I've been using it a while and the guy before me used it but now that I've taken over the team, it's starting to have activity. | |
| [19:22] <MTecknology> I was hoping somebody could make sure I'm handling things appropriately so I don't tick anyone off | |
| [19:22] <jussi01> SD? | |
| [19:22] <jussi01> PriceChild: is your man :D | |
| [19:22] <MTecknology> south dakota | |
| [19:23] <jussi01> ahh | |
| [19:23] <jussi01> so -us-sd ? | |
| [19:23] <MTecknology> yup | |
| [19:25] <MTecknology> I imagine I'm handling things pretty well, but I figure if I wanna someday be important, I should start by doing things correctly. | |
| [19:25] <MTecknology> PriceChild: ?? | |
| [19:26] <MTecknology> wow, i know a lotta people in here... | |
| [19:27] <MTecknology> in here that I know... ** | |
| [19:27] <PriceChild> Looks fine to me. | |
| [19:28] <MTecknology> PriceChild: What did you even look at? | |
| [19:28] <PriceChild> Just that you're not doing anything silly and unnecessary like always opped, tis nice to have freenode/staff on flags etc. | |
| [19:29] <MTecknology> PriceChild: I wanted to give myself +R on the channel too but I wasn't able to. I thought +f gave me that ability | |
| [19:30] <PriceChild> +f lets you grant flags you have yourself. | |
| [19:30] <MTecknology> oh | |
| [19:30] <jussi01> MTecknology: this is a good resource: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels | |
| [19:30] <MTecknology> so I pretty much need to either get +F or get all flags? | |
| [19:31] <MTecknology> I was also curious if atoponce should be there or not | |
| [19:31] <PriceChild> I'm trying to remember whether there's a reason you should have +R or not. | |
| [19:31] <MTecknology> I'm guessing that's just another standard irc user | |
| [19:31] <PriceChild> MTecknology: there's no harm in leaving him there is there? | |
| [19:32] <PriceChild> I assume he gave you the access you currently have. | |
| [19:32] <MTecknology> probably not | |
| [19:32] <MTecknology> no | |
| [19:32] <MTecknology> djennewe | |
| [19:32] <MTecknology> I've never met atoponce | |
| [19:33] <MTecknology> PriceChild: should I maybe add *!*@ubuntu/member/* +votiA | |
| [19:34] <[NikO]> .. | |
| [19:35] <MTecknology> maybe not those flags, but +V maybe? | |
| [19:35] <[NikO]> no | |
| [19:35] <MTecknology> ok | |
| [19:35] <[NikO]> http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml | |
| [19:35] <MTecknology> [NikO]: I was looking at the link jussi01 gave me :P | |
| [19:35] * jussi01 slaps MTecknology | |
| [19:35] <jussi01> :P | |
| [19:35] <MTecknology> ? | |
| [19:36] <MTecknology> jussi01: did I get you in trouble? :P | |
| [19:36] <jussi01> MTecknology: no... lol it was a playful slap | |
| [19:36] <MTecknology> so was my joke ;) | |
| [19:36] <jussi01> MTecknology: you forgot the :P | |
| [19:37] <MTecknology> oh - I got up Friday morning - 4hr sleep since then | |
| [19:37] <jussi01> lol | |
| [19:39] <MTecknology> PriceChild: so - conduct this channel similar to every other ubuntu channel and all will be good? | |
| [19:40] <MTecknology> oh - only one person can have +F, right? | |
| [19:40] <PriceChild> yep, there's a channel guidelines page on the wiki, can't link it to you to it though sorry | |
| [19:41] <MTecknology> PriceChild: so since I'm taking over the thing completely, +F is probably a good idea? | |
| [19:41] <PriceChild> is it required? | |
| [19:42] <PriceChild> is there a reason its a good idea? | |
| [19:42] <MTecknology> I mean if I want to manage who is on the access list? | |
| [19:42] <PriceChild> You don't need +F for that. | |
| [19:43] <MTecknology> then I need to have every flag? | |
| [19:43] <MTecknology> so I can grant/remove them from others? | |
| [19:44] <MTecknology> err - I have them already, don't I? | |
| [19:44] <PriceChild> I Don't think that's true. /msg chanserv help flags | |
| [19:45] <MTecknology> don't think which part is true? | |
| [19:45] <PriceChild> you need +F | |
| [19:46] <MTecknology> and if he gives me +F, then he loses it? | |
| [19:46] <PriceChild> Four people may hold +F. | |
| [19:47] <MTecknology> oh - ok | |
| [19:47] <MTecknology> How many people hold it for -offtopic? | |
| [19:47] <MTecknology> now I'm just curious | |
| [19:48] <jussi01> MTecknology: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-offtopic list | |
| [19:48] <MTecknology> oh - i had it in my head that an access list was privlidged | |
| [19:50] <PriceChild> access list is *normally* viewable by all, wheras +A is required for flags. | |
| [19:50] <MTecknology> oh | |
| [19:51] <MTecknology> well - someday maybe I'll get the privledge of being on that list | |
| [19:51] <MTecknology> for now I get to practice with a live channel :P | |
| [19:51] * jussi01 blacklists MTecknology's nick... | |
| [19:51] <jussi01> :P | |
| [19:52] <MTecknology> hey - at least I never asked for it | |
| [19:52] <MTecknology> I am starting to consider applying though | |
| [19:52] <jussi01> dont... | |
| [19:52] <MTecknology> no? | |
| [19:52] <jussi01> applying for ops gets you nowhere... :D | |
| [19:53] <MTecknology> eh - am I still here? | |
| [19:53] <jussi01> yes | |
| [19:53] <MTecknology> no, not ops | |
| [19:53] <MTecknology> member | |
| [19:53] <jussi01> oh... | |
| [19:53] <jussi01> go on then!! | |
| [19:53] <jussi01> :D | |
| [19:53] <MTecknology> :P | |
| [19:54] <jussi01> (oops) | |
| [19:54] <MTecknology> I honestly doubt I'll ever be an op anywhere other than -us-sd | |
| [19:54] <jrib> why? | |
| [19:54] <jrib> we should know I guess :) | |
| [19:55] <jussi01> MTecknology: what makes you think that? | |
| [19:55] <MTecknology> idk - I just don't think I've ever given much to prove I'd be a useful op | |
| [19:56] <MTecknology> unless the LoCo proves something or trying to help in #u, but in my head that only helps me have a chance at member, not ops | |
| [19:56] <jussi01> MTecknology: relax... :D | |
| [19:56] <MTecknology> huh? | |
| [19:56] <MTecknology> I wasn't freaking out | |
| [19:57] <MTecknology> or was i? | |
| [19:57] <jussi01> MTecknology: thing is, IMHO, the people selected to be ops are usually the ones who can be relied upon to have a level head, consistently. ;) | |
| [19:57] <MTecknology> dang, I'm too tired to be able to answer that :P | |
| [19:58] <jussi01> hehe | |
| [19:58] <jussi01> MTecknology: you heard of this wonderful thing called, errr... sleep???? | |
| [19:58] <MTecknology> I think the only time my head isn't level is when I'm really really bored, tired, and irritated. All at the same time. | |
| [19:59] <MTecknology> but those times I usually close irc, pound through what's ticking me off, and not fall asleep thinking about it | |
| [19:59] <MTecknology> like friday night | |
| [20:00] <MTecknology> On the bright side though, dang I like how our wiki and website look. | |
| [20:00] <jussi01> MTecknology, go to bed... now... you are beginning to ramble :D | |
| [20:00] <MTecknology> sorry | |
| [20:00] <MTecknology> You should hear me when I'm trying to talk now | |
| [20:01] <MTecknology> I can't go to sleep just yet though, I'm occupied in something else | |
| [20:03] <MTecknology> jussi01: I'm thinking about bugging stdin and seeing if he wants to write more code to create a second database for factoids though. One that's filled with constants and one that has changes. So that changing a constant factoid, puts a new entry in the changing db and the bot looks at that one first. | |
| [20:09] <jussi01> MTecknology: what would be the benefit of that? | |
| [20:10] <MTecknology> jussi01: sync up w/ the public factoids database and then add my own to it | |
| [20:10] <jussi01> MTecknology: I can assure you he doesnt want to write more code atm though, I already have him doing several thiongs :D | |
| [20:10] <MTecknology> or whoever is using it. But he has more important things going on with that code by a long shot | |
| [20:10] <MTecknology> eh - yup | |
| [20:13] * jussi01 goes to make breakfast... | |
| [20:13] <MTecknology> jussi01: I'm probably just going to need to keep a script to modify the factoid changes. Perhaps I can handle writing the code for that and hand it to stdin to see if it's useful | |
| [20:14] <MTecknology> at least then I'll have sone something useful with my life :P | |
| [20:14] <MTecknology> anyway - sorry to flood the channel with useless crap - g'night | |
| [20:14] <MTecknology> day... w/e | |
| === tomaw_ is now known as tomaw | |