| [01:44] <F-GT> how do you install the edubuntu cdrom via loopback ? | |
| [01:44] <F-GT> edubuntu addon | |
| [01:53] <sbalneav> Should just be able to mount -o loop blah.iso /media/cdrom | |
| [01:53] <sbalneav> but I've never done it that way | |
| [01:54] <F-GT> yeah tried it .. doesnt load the package manager | |
| [01:54] <F-GT> just burning an iso in the meantime | |
| [01:56] <F-GT> well that works | |
| [01:57] <sbalneav> yeah, I don't think manually mounting a loopback iso's gonna fire the HAL scripts you need. | |
| [01:57] <sbalneav> You could just point Synaptic at it manually | |
| [01:57] <sbalneav> But, since you're burning already :) | |
| [01:57] <F-GT> yeah thought about that too | |
| [01:57] <F-GT> got given an old laptop so figured i'd throw edubuntu on it for my sisters kids | |
| [01:57] <F-GT> and give it to them | |
| [01:58] <sbalneav> I'm sure they'll have a hoot with it. | |
| [01:58] <F-GT> yeah provided the depsolving works with no internet / network access :) | |
| [01:59] <F-GT> yeah im sure they will too | |
| [02:01] <F-GT> thanks for answer regarding the hal stuff .. had forgot about that ... thought there might of been a script on the cd to launch | |
| [02:02] <F-GT> cd seems to humming along okay so far ... would be nice to not use the cd tho and launch via loopback even if it's script to kick it off | |
| [02:07] <sbalneav> Wonder if there's an "apt-iso" method. | |
| [02:24] <F-GT> and failure .. no network connectivity | |
| [02:24] <F-GT> wants libgsm :) | |
| [02:25] <F-GT> and libavcodec | |
| [02:28] <F-GT> most of it seems to work tho | |
| [02:29] <LaserJock> evening all | |
| [02:33] <sbalneav> Evening LaserJock! | |
| [02:35] <LaserJock> sbalneav: how's it going? | |
| [02:39] <sbalneav> Going good! | |
| [02:39] <sbalneav> Doing a little "manual labour" this evening :) | |
| [02:55] <LaserJock> sbalneav: the inside or outside kind? | |
| [02:58] <sbalneav> The LTSP docs kind :) | |
| [02:59] <LaserJock> ah | |
| [02:59] <LaserJock> heh | |
| [02:59] <LaserJock> sbalneav: you got a bzr branch for that? | |
| [02:59] <sbalneav> I surely do! | |
| [03:00] <sbalneav> lp:~ltsp-docwriters/ltsp/ltsp-docs-trunk | |
| [03:08] <LaserJock> sbalneav: wow, lots of info there | |
| [03:08] <sbalneav> up to 70 pages now. | |
| [03:09] <sbalneav> That's what I'd ultimately like to package up somehow | |
| [03:09] <sbalneav> I'd like people to type "apt-get install ltsp-docs" and get: | |
| [03:09] <sbalneav> the pdf | |
| [03:10] <sbalneav> the one big html page | |
| [03:10] <sbalneav> and if we could somehow make that appear in the gnome help thingy, that'd be great too. | |
| [03:11] <LaserJock> I think the pdf is sort of the mmost difficult | |
| [03:12] <LaserJock> gnome help is fairly trivial | |
| [03:12] <LaserJock> HTML is fairly easy | |
| [03:16] <sbalneav> Well, the pdf's probably the least necessary of the 3 | |
| [03:21] <LaserJock> sbalneav: do you need all the autotools stuff? | |
| [03:25] <sbalneav> Well, makes it handy. | |
| [03:26] <sbalneav> Wait | |
| [03:26] <sbalneav> in the package you mean? | |
| [03:26] <sbalneav> Oh, no | |
| [03:26] <sbalneav> That's just for building the wibbly bits. | |
| [03:31] <LaserJock> sbalneav: I just wondered if you really need all that | |
| [03:32] <LaserJock> sbalneav: you could probably just use a Makefile I'd think | |
| [03:33] <sbalneav> Someone else coded it up nicely, so I'm just using it :) | |
| [04:29] <Ahmuck> hi. ubuntu ltsp server is up and running well | |
| [04:29] <Ahmuck> :) | |
| [04:35] <sbalneav> Good. | |
| [04:40] <Ahmuck> now i'm hoping to figure out the ITALC before messing it up royally | |
| [04:41] <Ahmuck> i've been fighting a firewall all week. seems the NICS are taking the same IRQs and i'm still working on it :( | |
| [04:45] <Ahmuck> nn | |
| [04:58] <Ahmuck> i have a question. we'd like to use wacom tablets for art class. usb. is this possible? | |
| [04:59] <sbalneav> Don't know, I'v never used them | |
| [04:59] <sbalneav> but I know people HAVE used tablets of some kind on Ubuntu. | |
| [05:01] <Ahmuck> tablets on ubuntu works. you think they will work on a fat client ? or thin client? | |
| [05:01] <Ahmuck> we'd like to use plastic animation paper and artrage | |
| [05:02] <Ahmuck> artrage requires wine. a security risk? | |
| [05:02] <Ahmuck> should windows programs be installed with sudo or as a user | |
| [05:03] * Ahmuck needs sleep :( | |
| [05:05] <Ahmuck> well, i need to shut down. i'll be back to ask questions i suppose. is there a meeting next wednesday? | |
| [05:07] <LaserJock> Ahmuck: we haven't decided on the next meeting | |
| [05:08] <LaserJock> Ahmuck: watch the edubuntu-users list for an announcement | |
| [05:08] <sbalneav> LaserJock: So, I got an LTSPManual.xml file. How to I make it appear in Yelp? | |
| [05:09] <LaserJock> yelp file:///<full path>LTSPManual.xml | |
| [05:10] <sbalneav> You just think yer sooooo smart, don't you. Fancy-pantsed phd boy, with yer simple solutions and rock-n-roll music. | |
| [05:11] <LaserJock> heah, that's why they pay me the big bucks ;-) | |
| [05:11] <sbalneav> but with the edubuntu handbook, we had it appearing on the menu on the side. How was that happy magic performed? | |
| [05:12] <LaserJock> oh, well you install a omf file and call scrollkeeper | |
| [05:13] <LaserJock> or hmm, that wasn't exactly your question was it | |
| [05:13] <Ahmuck> looks like pap might be a challenge to run on ltsp without copying to every home directory | |
| [05:13] <LaserJock> having it appear on the side menu is actually totally hackish crap | |
| [05:13] <Ahmuck> k, nn 4 sure now | |
| [05:13] <LaserJock> the initial menu that you get in yelp is all hard coded | |
| [05:13] <sbalneav> ah, ok | |
| [05:14] <LaserJock> sbalneav: you know what you need | |
| [05:14] <LaserJock> you should have a LTSP diagnostics tool | |
| [05:14] <sbalneav> A good swift kick in the goolies? | |
| [05:14] <LaserJock> you run it and it pops up yelp with the help | |
| [05:14] <sbalneav> Oh, right a diagnostic tool :) | |
| [05:15] <LaserJock> *and* like puts together all the relevant stuff for a bug report | |
| [05:15] <sbalneav> We had one of those YEARS ago. Yeah, it'd be great to get one going again. | |
| [05:15] <LaserJock> like the lts.conf or whatever that is | |
| [05:15] <sbalneav> Wasn't that hard. | |
| [05:15] <sbalneav> Excellent idear. | |
| [05:15] <sbalneav> Where would it send it to? | |
| [05:16] <sbalneav> Probably better if it just wrote "ltsp-debug.txt" somewhere. | |
| [05:16] <sbalneav> yeah, that's like a half-a-day hack job. | |
| [05:16] <LaserJock> yeah, don't need to get all fancy | |
| [05:17] <sbalneav> I like it. | |
| [05:17] <LaserJock> but just having a little menu item that'd be like "Help for LTSP" | |
| [05:17] <sbalneav> I'll do it this weeked. | |
| [05:17] <sbalneav> You got the manual there? | |
| [05:18] <sbalneav> Do a yelp on it | |
| [05:18] <sbalneav> I'm seeing "book.labelLTSP" | |
| [05:18] <sbalneav> wonder where that's coming from | |
| [05:21] <LaserJock> where do you see that? | |
| [05:25] <sbalneav> Right on the first page | |
| [05:25] <sbalneav> when it first pops up. Upper left, under the big title | |
| [05:27] <LaserJock> I don't get that | |
| [05:27] <LaserJock> but I've seen that sort of thing before | |
| [05:30] <sbalneav> you on intrepid or harrrrrdy | |
| [05:30] <LaserJock> intrepid | |
| [05:31] <sbalneav> I'm on harrrrrdy, so maybe it's just a bugaboo | |
| [05:31] <LaserJock> well, I swear I saw something like that on a different xml file the other day | |
| [05:31] <LaserJock> I don't think it'll end up in the final product though | |
| [05:36] <sbalneav> update your branch and check out my new subtitle :) | |
| [05:37] <LaserJock> lol! | |
| [05:39] <sbalneav> Hey, if you can't have some fun with it, what's the point. | |
| [05:47] * LaserJock strangles KDE | |
| [05:47] <LaserJock> why is it that they can manage to have a configuration for *everything* but the one thing I want | |
| [05:51] <sbalneav> I've met Aaron Seigo, and he like TOTALLY hates PHD Chemists. | |
| [05:51] <sbalneav> THIS WAS HIS REVENGE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA | |
| [05:52] <sbalneav> No, really, I dunno :) | |
| [05:58] <LaserJock> sbalneav: dude, I didn't tell you. I got to contribute an honest-to-goodness C++ patch today to a chemistry app | |
| [05:59] <sbalneav> No way | |
| [05:59] <sbalneav> O RLY? | |
| [05:59] <LaserJock> I had to do GTK and everything | |
| [06:00] <LaserJock> is was mostly a "copy-n-past then modify" job | |
| [06:00] <LaserJock> but I came up with the idea, hacked it in an afternoon, and got to commit it | |
| [06:00] <LaserJock> felt good | |
| [06:00] <sbalneav> Sniff, our little LaserJock, all grown up. | |
| [06:00] <LaserJock> lol | |
| [06:00] <sbalneav> If we ever go back to paris, I bet he wont even WANT to go to subway. | |
| [06:01] <sbalneav> Today, my son, you are.... A MAN!!!! | |
| [06:01] <sbalneav> Good for you dude! | |
| [06:01] <sbalneav> Do that for another 15 years, and you can turn out like me | |
| [06:01] <sbalneav> no, wait. | |
| [06:01] <sbalneav> run while you can :) | |
| [06:01] <LaserJock> heh | |
| [06:02] <sbalneav> Which app? | |
| [06:03] <LaserJock> gnome chemistry utils | |
| [06:03] <LaserJock> the main author has been working on a chemical spectrum viewer | |
| [06:03] <sbalneav> Coolio | |
| [06:03] <LaserJock> and he had a nifty X-axis adjuster thing | |
| [06:03] <LaserJock> and I was using it and was like, dude, I need the Y-axis too | |
| [06:04] <LaserJock> it wasn't purely copy-n-paste because the 2 axes need to be treated differently | |
| [06:04] <LaserJock> but I added some widgets, spin button and a slider, and got everything hooked up | |
| [06:04] <LaserJock> and it actually worked | |
| [06:09] <sbalneav> Rockin! | |
| [06:13] <LaserJock> well, time for bed | |
| [06:14] <LaserJock> are we doin' our little bug thing tomorrow night? | |
| [06:14] <sbalneav> Gonna try | |
| [06:14] <sbalneav> Should be on around 9 central | |
| [06:14] <LaserJock> hopefully I'll have some time | |
| [06:15] <LaserJock> I need to work on both my car and my wife's tomorrow | |
| [06:15] <LaserJock> PhD Chemisty student + car == looooong time | |
| [06:16] <sbalneav> Working on your wife will be more fun. | |
| [06:16] <sbalneav> Oh, wait, working on your wife's CAR, my mistake :) | |
| [06:16] <LaserJock> pffft | |
| [06:16] <LaserJock> you Canucks really can't read can you ;-p | |
| [06:17] <LaserJock> good night | |
| [06:17] <sbalneav> Night dude! | |
| [06:17] <sbalneav> I'm off too. | |