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[00:12] <spadewarrior> hi
[01:21] <Lancelot> how do i join a new network using xchat>
[01:21] <Lancelot> ?
[01:22] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: /connect irc.oftc.net ?
[01:22] <Lancelot> k, let me try
[01:26] <Lancelot> didn't work :/
[01:28] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: hmm... dunno then. i don't use xchat... i was just guessing... :P
[01:28] <Lancelot> lol, k, that's fine
[01:28] <Lancelot> thanks anyway though ;)
[02:00] <Lancelot> can I use ubuntu 8.10 commands in my xubuntu terminal?
[02:01] <TheSheep> Lancelot: depends, but mostly yes
[02:01] <TheSheep> Lancelot: you will want to use 'mousepad' instead of 'gedit', that's for sure
[02:13] <wormsxulla> hello. i have a usb adapter in which i put my phone memory card. on windows, when i "eject" it, the light turns off. on xubuntu, it doesn't shut down when i unmount it. is it normal?
[02:14] <Necrosan> yes
[02:15] <wormsxulla> so there is no way to be sure it's unmounted? it still appears in thunar
[03:25] <mhd720> hello
[04:09] <aaron_> can I use ubuntu 8.10 scripts in my xubuntu terminal?
[04:09] <aaron_> i mean, do they work?
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[04:11] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: what kind of scripts?
[04:15] <Lancelot> http://www.dailygyan.com/2008/11/10-things-you-should-do-immediately.html
[04:15] <Lancelot> those ones, 0dd-rationale
[04:24] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: you mean those commands?
[04:24] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: all of those commands will work on all ubuntu machines...
[04:24] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: although, i would reccomend getting the info off the official website...
[04:25] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[04:26] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: Nor am i particularly fond of acroread...
[04:27] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: also, you might just want to install the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" meta-packages, as it contains flash, java, and a bunch more codecs...
[04:27] <Odd-rationale> Lancelot: libdvdcss2 and w32codecs can be gotten from medibuntu repo, as shown in the link i posted above.
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[05:57] <Lancelot> thanks, 0dd-rationale! :)
[06:11] <R1cochet> is there a disk partition/resize tool for hardy?
[06:19] <Robb_M> gparted works R1cochet
[06:20] <R1cochet> i have a disk with 3 partitions and 2 OS's i would like to wipe both OS's, install 8.10 and take empty space and attack to old partition
[06:20] <R1cochet> attach*
[06:20] <R1cochet> Robb_M: can it create join to NTFS?
[06:21] <R1cochet> Nevermind Thank ¥ou again
[06:24] <Robb_M> im not sure, sorry...im helping in a mulitutde of rooms so im definately lagging in responses.
[06:24] <R1cochet> all good i checked their homepage and it says right there cant miss it
[06:24] <R1cochet> !gparted
[06:24] <ubottu> gparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:25] <R1cochet> features page
[07:28] <Smegzor> I have a xubuntu install that locks up soon after X is started and before the login can be displayed. It appears to be a problem with the graphics driver it wants to use. How do I make it use vesa or something?
[08:17] <volo> hi
[08:31] <hank> hi
[09:18] <RAVTUX> hello all
[09:21] <RAVTUX> Grey_Loki: hi
[09:22] <gabkdlly> hi
[09:23] <RAVTUX> gabkdlly: whats up?
[09:24] <gabkdlly> I am contemplating the possibility to privatize government. What is up with you?
[09:26] <RAVTUX> recovering from going to the dentist then biting my own lip when it was numb
[09:26] <gabkdlly> ouch :(
[09:27] <RAVTUX> when the numbness wore off is it when it really hurt
[10:40] <dosingrat> When trying to install from CD, just when the installer begins loading it switches to the ash shell. We didn't even get to keyboard settings. What might be a problem. ISO file downloaded from Xubuntu site. Thank you.
[16:19] <nonie> hello,
[16:20] <nonie> how can i configure the wifi to 64bit wep passphrase
[16:20] <nonie> it shows me 40/128 setting
[16:20] <nonie> anyone?
[16:22] <gabkdlly> hi
[16:23] <gabkdlly> my network configuration tool is only showing me a hexidecimal option and an ascii option. Then again, I am using gutsy.
[16:23] <gabkdlly> nonie: did you just go ahead and try the 40/128 option?
[16:26] <TheSheep> maybe they meant 40-128? you know, they can guess by the length of the passphrase you actually enter...
[16:30] <vidd> gabkdlly, what kind of encryption do you have?
[16:30] <gabkdlly> I also use wep
[16:31] <vidd> gabkdlly, wep only has hex and ascii
[16:32] <vidd> gabkdlly, check your router's wep settings....it will be set to either hex or ascii
[16:32] <gabkdlly> yeah, sorry, I meant to tell that to nonie
[16:32] <vidd> you will want it to match
[16:33] <vidd> ah...nvmd then
[16:33] <gabkdlly> looks like we lost nonie
[16:36] <nonie> im still here just went to the restroom
[16:36] <nonie> yep i tried 40/128 just doest work
[16:37] <nonie> actually its in my office network
[16:37] <nonie> all is running except this
[16:37] <nonie> i have pclinuxos running wifi without any problem
[16:38] <vidd> nonie, perhaps you may want to look into wicd
[16:39] <vidd> http://wicd.sourceforge.net
[16:39] <nonie> wicd, is it on synaptics too.
[16:39] <vidd> no
[16:39] <nonie> ill check in the website you gave me. hold on.
[16:39] <vidd> you would need to either download the .deb or add the repo
[16:40] <vidd> nonie, it will require you to completely uninstall the default network manager in *buntu
[16:41] <nonie> network manager in synaptics?
[16:45] <vidd> nonie, when you try to install it, it will tell you the conflic
[16:45] <vidd> fix the conflict and you will be good to go
[16:46] <nonie> ok i wil try it right now.
[16:46] <nonie> tnx guys.let you know if it works or not.
[16:47] <vidd> nonie, i think wicd is used by pclinuxos by defaut
[16:47] <nonie> good, then ill be getting two linuxes working....
[16:47] <nonie> do i have to remove the network manager first?
[16:47] <vidd> nonie, wicd is a wonderful tool....VERY simple to get working on any linux
[16:48] <nonie> i added the wicd website in the repos and the public key
[16:48] <vidd> nonie, just do the apt-get install.....
[16:48] <nonie> ok
[16:48] * vidd added it via dpkg so his install was different
[16:54] <nonie> if you install wicd via synaptic it removes the network manager prior to install.
[16:54] <nonie> just doing it right now.
[17:20] <nonie_> insalled wicd but it cannot detect my wireless interface
[17:20] <nonie_> i used ndiswrapper to check the interface and it detects it.
[17:20] <nonie_> only on wicd it cannot.
[17:21] <vidd> nonie_, you need to go into your /etc/network/interfaces and comment out the interface for it
[17:22] <nonie_> yep i did it
[17:22] <nonie_> the auto lo
[17:22] <nonie_> iface lo inet loopback
[17:23] <nonie_> it was automatically created after install
[17:27] <nonie_> i used application/system/wireless drivers to check if the wireless
[17:27] <nonie_> car is detected. but if i try to configure it.
[17:27] <nonie_> i cannot
[17:28] <nonie_> i configure the network and gives me an error cannot find configuration on network
[17:33] <nonie_> i chcked with ndiswrapper -l and it shows the wireless card
[17:37] <nonie_> strange...
[17:40] <nonie_> anybody?
[17:55] <buzz_> anyone here used the "remote desktop viewer" which comes with xubuntu - binary is called "vinagre". if i run it and put in an ip and press connect it jsut crashes!
[18:09] <TheSheep> buzz_: does it show any messages when you run it from terminal?
[18:10] <buzz_> TheSheep, yup http://pastebin.com/m730d779f
[18:11] <TheSheep> buzz_: looks like you found a bug, can you please report it?
[18:11] <TheSheep> !bugs | buzz_
[18:11] <ubottu> buzz_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[18:12] <buzz_> thanks yeh i have plenty of open bugs on launchpad. but i was hoping others might have this problem, i fear it is only me,. aah well
[18:12] <TheSheep> buzz_: it might be related to your graphics card and/or drivers
[18:13] <buzz_> it is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vinagre/+bug/287542 but i am unable to fix it like this guy
[18:13] <wormsxulla_> hello. can i install a .rpm package on xubuntu?
[18:13] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: yes, but it's not recommended
[18:13] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: better find a deb
[18:13] <wormsxulla_> TheSheep: i couldn't find a deb :-( what is the difference?
[18:14] <buzz_> TheSheep, any other remote desktop client guis for gtk ?
[18:14] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: rpm's are packages used by redhat and similar distros, they are from different distrbutions
[18:15] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: so there may be difference in what goes where
[18:15] <TheSheep> buzz_: I don't use any, so don't know
[18:15] <buzz_> ive confirmed that bug anyway, so it might get attention at some point. although i lost hope with all my open bugs on launchpad for kubuntu related stuff!
[18:16] <wormsxulla_> TheSheep: may i show you the site i've found with the package, so maybe you'll see if it's "maybe ok" or "not ok at all"?
[18:16] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: sure
[18:16] <wormsxulla_> http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=mercury-messenger i want the last one in the table
[18:18] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: http://mercury.im/#Download
[18:19] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: does it have to be 1.8?
[18:19] <wormsxulla_> TheSheep: this only offers 1.9, and i want 1.8
[18:19] <wormsxulla_> (i know, i'm weird)
[18:19] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: http://thebachman.info/public/Versions_Ubuntu/mercury-messenger-1.8.deb
[18:20] <wormsxulla_> yes. 1.9 is full of bugs :)
[18:20] <wormsxulla_> oh
[18:20] <wormsxulla_> how did you find it?
[18:21] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: I edited the url for 1.9 ;)
[18:21] <wormsxulla_> hmm, it points to 1.9
[18:21] <TheSheep> bleh
[18:22] <wormsxulla_> :) you did what?
[18:23] <TheSheep> in the repo there is only 1.9 too :/
[18:23] <wormsxulla_> trying to upgrade me without my consent! ;-)
[18:23] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: how about 2.0?
[18:23] <wormsxulla_> yeah, i wonder where old deb packages go, they seem to just vanish
[18:24] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: you could ask them
[18:24] <wormsxulla_> TheSheep: i'm pretty sure it has (and don't want to experience) MORE bugs. - i've read the forums! i trust 1.8
[18:25] <wormsxulla_> TheSheep: hehe
[18:25] <wormsxulla_> also, i'm on gutsy, so 2.0 will probably want me to be on hardy or something
[18:25] <TheSheep> I wouldn't know
[18:26] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: btw, that rpm seems to be made from deb
[18:26] <wormsxulla_> nor i! :)
[18:26] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: you could try it with alien
[18:26] <TheSheep> !alien
[18:26] <ubottu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[18:26] <wormsxulla_> TheSheep: so that "could" work? according to Your Great Knowledge Of Those Things
[18:26] <wormsxulla_> ah
[18:27] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: I have no personal experience with alien
[18:27] * wormsxulla_ kinda like aliens :)
[18:28] <wormsxulla_> but still, not everyone has the latest versions, aren't they kept in some big dustbin on the internet?
[18:28] <wormsxulla_> aren't the oldest, i mean
[18:29] <TheSheep> wormsxulla_: nope, the internet we use is already the dustbin
[18:29] <wormsxulla_> :)
[18:30] <wormsxulla_> you're using web 2.0, i'm still on 0.09
[18:44] <vidd> wormsxulla_, alien is ok in a pinch....but in my experience, getting the latest deb...even if its a version or too behind the rpm works better then alien'ing the rpm in
[18:45] <wormsxulla_> vidd: ah. so i should try to find the latest 1.8 deb *somewhere*
[18:45] <wormsxulla_> humpf
[18:46] <zoredache> you could find the source package for 1.8 and recompile it
[18:48] <wormsxulla_> zoredache: i don't know how to compile :-(
[18:49] <blender_> what was the question
[18:55] <wormsxulla_> the question about "compile"?
[18:56] <blender_> just says "don't know how to compile"
[18:57] <wormsxulla_> yes. that's a fact, not a question :)
[18:58] <blender_> anyone know of a better way to use and install bitchx
[18:58] <blender_> so what are you trying to install?
[18:58] <blender_> compile?
[18:59] <wormsxulla_> mercury messenger 1.8 :)
[19:00] <blender_> and why do you compile that package
[19:00] <blender_> ?
[19:00] <blender_> they have a .dev
[19:00] <blender_> .deb
[19:00] <wormsxulla_> i don't
[19:00] <wormsxulla_> they do?
[19:01] <wormsxulla_> where?
[19:01] <blender_> then what's the problem?
[19:02] <blender_> http://mercury.im/
[19:02] <wormsxulla_> finding the 1.8 deb package when everything which seem to still exist is 1.9 or 2.0
[19:02] <blender_> is it just for support of msn chat?
[19:03] <blender_> the one they have listed is 1.0
[19:03] <blender_> 1.9
[19:03] <wormsxulla_> so zoredache said: then compile it, and then you arrived while i said: i don't know how to, etc. etc.
[19:03] <wormsxulla_> no
[19:03] <blender_> compile is super easy
[19:03] <wormsxulla_> sure
[19:03] <blender_> depending on how many packages you're missing
[19:03] <blender_> generally the readme file explains everything
[19:04] <blender_> ./configure
[19:04] <blender_> make
[19:04] <blender_> make install
[19:04] <wormsxulla_> blender_: thanks, but compiling isn't for me
[19:04] <blender_> three very simple commands
[19:05] <blender_> ok
[19:05] <blender_> so then...you don't have an issue
[19:05] <Odd-rationale> what about checkinstall
[19:05] <Odd-rationale> ?
[19:05] <Odd-rationale> !checkinstall
[19:05] <ubottu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[19:06] <blender_> yeah and
[19:06] <blender_> make clean
[19:07] <blender_> you know where a nice bitchx package might be found...other than bitchx.org
[19:07] <blender_> bitch.com
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[21:39] <volo> hi
[21:42] <Odd-rationale> !hi | volo
[21:42] <ubottu> volo: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[21:50] <volo> ubottu: thx
[21:50] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx
[21:51] <Odd-rationale> !thanks | volo
[21:51] <ubottu> volo: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[21:53] <volo> :)
[22:04] <gasmask> Hi. I set up a RAID 5 with mdadm, set it up with ext3 filesystem following this guide http://bfish.xaedalus.net/?p=188. I also added this line to fstab to mount on boot: /dev/md0 /var/media auto defaults 0 3. But when I reboot, the array is not mounted, and when I try to mount it, it says it doesn't exist! I then assemble the array with: mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1. I then can mount it. How c
[22:04] <gasmask> an I have this happen automatically?
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[22:09] <zoredache> gasmask: you might need to updated your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[22:09] <gasmask> hmmm, what would I need to add to it?
[22:10] <zoredache> on my system I let the installer setup the array. I have a line in there like this -- ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=77b3d5b0:fa7122be:77105787:fefc690b
[22:11] <gasmask> ok, I'll check that out
[22:11] <zoredache> do a man mdadm.conf to information about the file. My guess is that you would need to put something like that line that describes your array
[22:12] <gasmask> ok, thanks
[22:13] <gasmask> awesome!
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