2008/11/14/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

[00:00] <giver> ahh,have volume,very low
[00:00] <giver> from the sat tuner
[00:02] <giver> should I use any other than alsa?
[00:52] <giver> humm,in mythbuntu setup,when I select mythbuntu option the pc hangs
[00:52] <giver> in utilities/setup>setup>mythbuntu
[00:53] <giver> what that option supose to do?
[00:54] <giver> ohh,i see,suppose to be mcc
[00:54] <giver> but doesnt start from here for me
[00:54] <giver> pc hangs
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[01:09] <zippytech2> just installed 8.10 on a new drive with a PVR-150 and none mce remote works on 8.04 bata 1 but booting to 8.10 no go any i deal what's changed?
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[01:12] <zippytech2> just installed 8.10 on a new drive with a PVR-150 and none mce remote works on 8.04 bata 1 but booting to 8.10 no go any idea
[01:50] <LonEagle> hey, anyone have anygood ideas on how i could merge an old mythtv install with mythbuntu?
[01:50] <LonEagle> really just want to copy the recordings over
[01:50] <hads> Just copy the recordings and the database
[01:51] <hads> You should be good to go
[01:51] <LonEagle> maybe i can upgrade mythtv on the old box and then update the database
[01:51] <hads> mythbackend will upgrade the database automatically for you.
[01:51] <LonEagle> yeah but i'm not going to want to overwrite the database eh?
[01:51] <hads> Or do you have two active databases?
[01:51] <LonEagle> won't that totally screw up the permissions that mythbuntu sets up?
[01:52] <LonEagle> no the old box isn't active right now.  just built a new box today.
[01:52] <hads> Well if you haven't started using the new one yet (i.e. there's nothing in the databse you care about) then copy over the recordings and the database
[01:53] <LonEagle> just the mythwhatever database, right, not the one with the mysql settings in it, right?
[01:53] <hads> Yeah
[01:53] <hads> mysqldum mythconverg > my_database_backup.sql
[01:53] <hads> mysqldump mythconverg > my_database_backup.sql
[01:53] <LonEagle> oh right mysqldump.
[01:54] <LonEagle> then reconfigure all the settings, right
[01:54] <hads> myth stores all it's settings in the database
[01:55] <hads> On the new box `mysql mythconverg < my_database_backup.sql`
[01:55] <LonEagle> yeah.  well the old box wasn't working with some of the new stuff
[01:55] <LonEagle> so i'll still have to tinker
[01:57] <fuxxy> The first time I installed the remote frontend on my ubuntu box, it prompted for some setup information. I've since uninstalled and reinstalled the frontend, How come it's not prompting for setup information again?
[01:58] <LonEagle> probably because you didn't purge the configuration files when you uninstalled
[01:59] <fuxxy> LonEagle, I didn't know I was supposed to, I told the package manager to do a complete uninstall..
[02:00] <fuxxy> so how do I purge the configuration files?
[02:00] <LonEagle> wait that should have
[02:00] <hads> mythfrontend stores it's access details in ~/.mythtv
[02:01] <fuxxy> hads, so it's safe to remove the entire ~/.mythtv
[02:01] <fuxxy> ?
[02:01] <hads> Maybe, depends if you want anything that's in there.
[02:02] <fuxxy> hads, shouldnt be anything important to me.
[02:08] <fuxxy> sigh. It still didn't prompt me for configuration options
[02:09] <hads> What do you want to setup?
[02:10] <fuxxy> I think I'm missing an option somewhere to specify the backend location
[02:10] <fuxxy> this is a remote frontend-only machine.
[02:10] <hads> You can do it in the frontend setup
[02:10] <fuxxy> I can see information in the mysql database, but the frontent pops up the error complaining that it can't connect to the backend server.
[02:11] <hads> Setup > General
[02:12] <fuxxy> I'm starting to think the problem is with the backend, but the backend logs aren't complaining.
[02:12] <hads> Is it running?
[02:12] <fuxxy> everything looks correct in setup > general
[02:12] <fuxxy> yeah, the backend's running, I'm watching tv on the local frontend at the moment.
[02:12] <hads> You might have 127.0.0.1 in the backend setup
[02:13] <hads> Run mythtv-setup on the master backend
[02:13] <fuxxy> hads, possibly.
[02:16] <fuxxy> need to shut down the backend first, and the wife is still watching House :)
[02:17] <fuxxy> Thanks, give me a few minuites.
[02:23] <fuxxy> yep, 127.0.0.1 for the local backend as well as the master backend.
[02:23] <fuxxy> should I set both of those to the external IP of the box?
[02:23] <hads> Yeah
[02:23] <fuxxy> or better yet, will a hostname work?
[02:23] <hads> Never tried, I'd use an IP
[02:23] <fuxxy> I run dns on my local network.
[02:24] <fuxxy> okay, it's a static ip, should be fine.
[02:24] <hads> Yeah, I just dish out static IP's with DHCP
[02:25] <fuxxy> so that should be it on the backend, correct?
[02:26] <hads> Yup
[02:28] <fuxxy> it worked
[02:28] <fuxxy> hah!
[02:29] <fuxxy> One more question though, I've only got a PVR-150 on my backend. It displays fine on my TV on the local frontend, but now, on my laptop at 1440X1050, the video looks grainy and blurry.
[02:37] <foxbuntu> fuxxy, thats because its SD and by default the capture res is 480x480
[02:39] <fuxxy> foxbuntu, that's what I thought, just wanted someone to verify, thanks.
[02:48] <MythbuntuGuest42> Hi guys/gals. I'm trying to install a new Mythbuntu secondary backend/frontend system. I've already setup a primary backend, and it's working fine.
[02:48] <MythbuntuGuest42> I'm in the middle of the install for the FE/2ndary BE, and am stuck at the step where I configure the connection to the master backend.
[02:49] <hads> Go into mythtv-setup on the master backend and set the IP to the IP of the backend rather than 127.0.0.1 :)
[02:49] <MythbuntuGuest42> For the MySQL Server, the default was localhost.
[02:49] <MythbuntuGuest42> Whoa, sorry, didn't see your r4esponse.
[02:50] <MythbuntuGuest42> I'm pretty sure I did that when I installed the master backend, but I'm going to re-check that right now.
[02:50] <hads> Sure, just making sure, I've just been helping someone else with that :)
[02:50] <MythbuntuGuest42> Cool, thanks.
[02:50] <hads> You'll want to run mythtv-setup on the secondary backend (if you want to use it as a slave backend)
[02:51] <hads> If you just want to run a frontend then you'll only need to config in the frontend.
[02:51] <MythbuntuGuest42> Yes, on the masterBE, I just ran backend-setup, and the local IP is set to 192.168.3.5.
[02:51] <hads> Cool
[02:51] <MythbuntuGuest42> Do I need to use the Security PIN somehow, on the frontend?
[02:52] <hads> Shouldn't do
[02:52] <hads> You'll need to put in the backend settings and the mysql settings.
[02:52] <hads> And that should be it
[02:52] <MythbuntuGuest42> Also, to be honest, I'm not clear what a secondary backend is for. I intended the FE to just be a FE, but since itt has a 200Gb disk I thought I'd make it an addl BE as well.
[02:53] <hads> The only reason you need a slave backend is for adding extra tuners in that box, running jobs (like comflagging), or extra storage.
[02:53] <MythbuntuGuest42> On the FE, I entered all of the SQL values from the mysql.txt on the BE. For the server name, I tried the hostname (mythbe), and also tried the IP.
[02:54] <hads> That should work
[02:54] <MythbuntuGuest42> OOhhh - so if the secondaryBE has a tuner card, I can record another channel? Very cool!
[02:54] <hads> Yeah, you can put as many tuner cards as you want in each backend.
[02:54] <MythbuntuGuest42> Anyway, back to the problem at hand - I switched to a different tty, and tried pinging the BE - no problem.
[02:54] <MythbuntuGuest42> I can ping it by name or IP.
[02:54] <hads> Can you connect to mysql running on the backend from the frontend?
[02:54] <foxbuntu> and if you are an insane person like someone I might know, you can have 11 tuners and 2.25TB of storage
[02:54] <MythbuntuGuest42> I don't know. How would I try that?
[02:55] <MythbuntuGuest42> If only I could afford that!
[02:55] <hads> You can test that in mythbuntu-control-center
[02:55] <foxbuntu> lol
[02:55] <hads> Or on the CLI if you prefer
[02:55] <foxbuntu> I have bought most of it over several years
[02:55] <MythbuntuGuest42> I haven't completed the install yet, so no MCC.
[02:55] <MythbuntuGuest42> CLI will do
[02:55] <TheBlasphemer> foxbuntu: I have 4 tuners and 500GB, do I already qualify for insane ;)?
[02:56] <hads> `mysql -h frog -u hads -p` - adjust to suite
[02:56] <foxbuntu> no, that normal
[02:56] <MythbuntuGuest42> OK, give me a minute. BRB
[02:56] <hads> erm suit
[02:56] <foxbuntu> TheBlasphemer, 4 is fairly common
[02:56] <TheBlasphemer> aaaw, shoot...
[02:56] <hads> I only have 3 physical tuners :)
[02:57] <TheBlasphemer> foxbuntu: Yeah, figured, 2 doesn't quite cut it with 2 subsequent recordings on one channel overlapping slightly, and with the PVR-500 set it's pretty easy to add 2 more :p
[02:57] <foxbuntu> I actually own a startup business dealing with MythBuntu devices thus the number tuners
[02:57] <TheBlasphemer> hads: I have two Hauppauge PVR 500's :)
[02:57] <hads> Yeah but you can't do multirec with those :)
[02:57] <TheBlasphemer> multirec
[02:57] <TheBlasphemer> ?
[02:57] <hads> With DVB you can record all the channels off a multiplex at the same time.
[02:58] <foxbuntu> hads, yeah...I havent tried multirec yet...I gotta get several other things working first
[02:58] <TheBlasphemer> Ah
[02:58] <TheBlasphemer> I don't do digital yet
[02:58] <foxbuntu> TheBlasphemer, one tuner all channels on the multiplex
[02:58] <TheBlasphemer> Analog is good enuff for me :)
[02:58] <foxbuntu> TheBlasphemer, thats how it starts
[02:58] <hads> Works well, 3 physical tuners and I can record everything that's on :)
[02:59] <TheBlasphemer> Actually I think I recently read that apparently PAL (which I have) is better than NTSC which is why HDTV takes off so slow here
[02:59] <hads> They aren't _that_ different :)
[02:59] <TheBlasphemer> Oh well
[02:59] <TheBlasphemer> I considered getting HDTV, but it just doesn't make sense here
[02:59] <TheBlasphemer> You need one of those smartcards to watch it
[02:59] <hads> You're basically trading a couple of lines of resolution for frame rate.
[03:00] <MythbuntuGuest42> mysql -h <hostname> -u <username> -p <password>  ?
[03:00] <hads> Yah
[03:00] <TheBlasphemer> if you want to watch multiple channels, you need multiple smartcards (except if you only want the free ones, which are the first 3 only)
[03:00] <TheBlasphemer> And you need a set-top box, and multiple if you want to watch multiple channels at once (or have multiple TVs)
[03:00] <hads> Nearly beer o'clock
[03:01] <TheBlasphemer> And from what I heard, there are no actual PC tuners that accept the format the dutch providers are broadcasting in yet :(
[03:01] <MythbuntuGuest42> That syntax seems to have been expecting the dbname where I entered the password.
[03:01] <hads> MythbuntuGuest42: Oh sorry, just -p and it will prompt for the password
[03:01] <hads> Wasn't paying attention
[03:02] <MythbuntuGuest42> ok
[03:02] <hads> And yeah, you could put the database name (mythconverg) there
[03:02] <MythbuntuGuest42> awesome - I'm connected to mysql.
[03:03] <MythbuntuGuest42> Worked by IP, not by name.
[03:03] <hads> Odd, you must have some issues there.
[03:03] <fuxxy> I know that the backend will stream recordings and livetv to the frontend, but what about the local videos, mp3's and pictures that are currently set up on the pre-existing frontend?
[03:03] <hads> No
[03:04] <MythbuntuGuest42> Hmm. My FE has a wifi card, but that's obviously not setup yet. I have a wifi-to-ethernet adapter that I'm using to run a hardwired to the FE right now.
[03:04] <fuxxy> are the location of those stored in the mysql database? (If I add them via sshfs/smbfs to the *new* frontend, will it confuse the OLD frontend?)
[03:04] <MythbuntuGuest42> I'm guessing there's something going on there.
[03:05] <MythbuntuGuest42> I guess I need to figure that out here on my end.
[03:05] <MythbuntuGuest42> Thanks for the help so far.
[03:05] <hads> No worries, g'luck :)
[03:08] <MythbuntuGuest42> Damn, sometimes I hate computers. I have no idea what's going on, but I just re-tried things, using the IP, and the test was successful.
[03:08] <Zinn> MythbuntuGuest42: Please watch your language.
[03:08] <MythbuntuGuest42> Moving on now....
[03:08] <MythbuntuGuest42> Thx again.
[03:09] <hads> That's a little sensitive Zinn :)
[03:10] <MythbuntuGuest42> I assume Zinn is a bot?
[03:10] <hads> Yah
[04:53] <MythbuntuGuest47> hello. i have 8.04 mythbuntu installed and after a power outage here i can no longer connect to it via vnc. it is a headless box in my furnace room. i can ssh into it fine. i have done a netstat and dont see anything on 5900. can someone give me some idea what i should do next?
[05:15] <Timrit> MythbuntuGuest47=Timrit
[05:19] <Timrit> I lost the ability to connect to my mythbuntu 8.04 backend over vnc. I can still access it over ssh. Anyone know what vnc server is used? netstat doesnt show port 5900 open. ps aux|grep vnc doesnt show anything. The box sits headless and keyboard/mouseless in my furnace room and it is a PITA to pull out and hook up to a monitor. Any thoughts would be great. Thanks.
[05:28] <foxbuntu> Timrit, x11vnc usually
[05:29] <Timrit> foxbuntu: should x11vnc show up in ps aux | grep x11vnc?
[05:30] <foxbuntu> i just checked my machine and it does not
[05:30] <Timrit> hmmm
[05:30] <Timrit> how about netstat | grep 5900?
[05:31] <foxbuntu> sudo dpkg -l | grep x11vnc
[05:31] <foxbuntu> that will tell you if its installed
[05:32] <Timrit> it is
[05:32] <Timrit> it is there
[05:33] <foxbuntu> ok
[05:33] <foxbuntu> one sec
[05:34] <foxbuntu> it only shows up as active via netstat, so only when its connected
[05:34] <Timrit> so now i have to figure out why it is not accepting connections
[05:35] <Timrit> i have restarted the box.
[05:35] <foxbuntu> is gdm running?
[05:36] <Timrit> hmmmm.
[05:36] <Timrit> should gdm-greeter be running?
[05:36] <foxbuntu> nope
[05:36] <foxbuntu> it be logged in
[05:37] <Timrit> crap
[05:37] <foxbuntu> x11vnc wont work if its not
[05:37] <Timrit> i had auto login setup and working
[05:38] <foxbuntu> well its apparently not
[05:38] <Timrit> i would love to know what happened. it was fine for a while.
[05:38] <Timrit> any way to pass those over ssh with -X?
[05:39] <foxbuntu> could have been an improper response to an update
[05:39] <foxbuntu> Timrit, I think it simpler to fix the problem and restart gdm
[05:40] <foxbuntu> sudo nano /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf
[05:41] <Timrit> is pasteing 5 lines in here against the rules?
[05:42] <foxbuntu> ?
[05:42] <foxbuntu> yes
[05:42] <Timrit> ah
[05:42] <foxbuntu> !pastebin
[05:42] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[05:42] <Timrit> ok
[05:42] <foxbuntu> Timrit, here is my working one: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m2217e548
[05:42] <foxbuntu> obviously with the username changed to <username>
[05:43] <Timrit> here is my grep of gdm
[05:43] <Timrit> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71677/
[05:43] <foxbuntu> yeah
[05:44] <foxbuntu> I would suggest to just modify this file to make sure its the same as the one I pasted and restart gdm
[05:44] <foxbuntu> sudo nano /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf
[05:46] <Timrit> edited......
[05:46] <Timrit> restarted....
[05:47] <Timrit> and in!!!
[05:47] <Timrit> wooooo hooooooo
[05:47] <Timrit> thanks foxbuntu
[05:47] <foxbuntu> np
[05:47] <Timrit> now if i can fix my floating ip/problem with irssi/bitlbee..........
[05:49] <foxbuntu> gl
[05:49] <foxbuntu> im off
[05:56] <Timrit> foxbuntu: thanks again. all is great!
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[06:29] <MythbuntuGuest36> Have any of you every used an air mouse with mythbuntu? Is there a proper way to set this up since there isn't mouse support in all menus/screens (e.g. can't click on videos)?
[06:30] <doje_> hello, could someone help with a usbuirt ?  the light flashes once and it's not sending correct signals
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[15:42] <zippytech> i installed mythbuntu 8.10 on a new hd and now the remote don't work but it works on  8.04 bata 1 PVR150 card any idea's where to look?
[16:46] <giver> I need some help with the nvidia 7050 video card,it doesn;t output one monitor and one tv at the same time,should I edit xorg manually?
[16:46] <giver> plus,the tv out is black and white
[17:44] <gdusbabek> I've looked through the documentation and couldn't find the answer to this:  Are the versions of mythbuntu tied to specific versions of mythtv (e.g., 0.20, 0.21, etc.)?
[17:46] <Daviey> gdusbabek: yes
[17:47] <Daviey> although you could change it
[17:47] <gdusbabek> Are downgrades simple?  For example, I have a 0.20.2 backend and would like to configure a new frontend with mythbuntu.
[17:48] <superm1> no they're not simple generally...
[17:48] <superm1> you are better off upgrading your backend in most case
[17:49] <gdusbabek> I had a hard time getting the hauppauge blaster working the first time, I don't know if I should take my chances.  Something to look into I suppose.
[17:49] <superm1> can always make a backup of your 0.20.2 install
[17:50] <superm1> and if something goes badly wrong, restore that backup
[17:51] <Daviey> or try dual booting - then you can mount and cp over configs
[17:53] <gdusbabek> All good ideas thanks.  I have a spare drive I could use to attempt a new system with.
[17:54] <superm1> yeah rsync the install from one drive to another.  if things fail at all, it's quite easy to restore that old drive
[17:54] <gdusbabek> I'll just need to schedule some downtime with the fam.
[17:55] <Daviey> gdusbabek: book downtime in advance, send emails :)
[18:21] <Lokiase> hello, i'm having problems to connect wireless... when I use a cable it works always, wireless (belkin usb stick), gives me always ip 0.0.0.0 .... can someone help?
[18:29] <Lokiase> yeah, tx for helping peopl
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[18:41] <superm1> !forums Lokiase|afk
[18:41] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about forums Lokiase
[18:41] <superm1> !forums | Lokiase|afk
[18:41] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about forums | Lokiase
[18:42] <superm1> jphillip, i think that | in someone's name breaks things ...
[18:42] <superm1> !forums
[18:42] <Zinn> The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[18:55] <jphillip> superm1 ya it will I use that to direct stuffs at them, hmmmm
[18:56] <jphillip> I can assume \s\|\s is safe I suppose
[19:11] <jphillip> !forums | Lokiase|afk
[19:11] <Zinn> Lokiase|afk: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
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[21:41] <zippytech2> i just upgraded to the 8.10 my pvr150 remote works on 8.04 bata, but not on 8.10 , odd thing is i have another remote that should not work but about have does it will change channels but not anythingk else
[21:43] <zippytech2> lol it;s my tv remote
[21:44] <zippytech2> i have it set for hauppauge remote
[22:04] <henrik__> Anyone knows when daily will be released for 8.10?
[22:25] <superm1> henrik__, i assume you mean 9.04?
[22:26] <superm1> we're migrating to a new build process for it, and it should start the same day the dailies for ubuntu 9.04 start...
[22:30] <henrik__> superm1, I was unclear in my previouse note, when will weekly for mythtv be available for 8.10
[22:32] <superm1> henrik__, ah that.  it's on hold for now, we'll probably be discussing it at the meeting this weekend though
[22:33] <henrik__> Please try to push int thru, I'm kind of depending on it to get mythtv to work on my ubuntu 8.10 (I was updateing it with weeklys for 8.04 untill it had the lame dependency problem)
[22:36] <henrik__> why is it on hold?
[22:41] <superm1> to get some other things worked on ( including porting the build process )