| === asac_ is now known as asac | |
| [12:56] <kirma> I'm interested about the specific compilation option/compiler differences between i386 and lpia architectures, where can I find the details? | |
| [12:56] <persia> The gcc and glibc sources. | |
| [12:57] <persia> Well, technically, any given package might have a special flag for lpia, but in the common case, it would be in the compiler and core libraries themselves. | |
| [12:57] <kirma> there are some actual patches to gcc for it? | |
| [12:58] <kirma> what about compilation options? | |
| [12:58] <persia> The vast majority of packages don't have any difference in the instructions passed to the compiler, so any changes would be in the compiler defaults. | |
| [12:59] <kirma> ok | |
| [12:59] <persia> I'm not sure that there are real changes in gcc behaviour, but I'd suspect some changed defaults for gcc and glibc would be the primary set of discoverable differences. | |
| [13:00] <kirma> well, optimizations and targets... too bad that gcc doesn't really have a proper instruction scheduler for intel atom target, as far as I've understood | |
| [13:00] <kirma> and even intel is strangely silent about scheduling optimizations for atom, haven't found practically anything about it from their docs | |
| [15:31] <BUGabundo_work> hi guys | |
| [15:31] <BUGabundo_work> what would you install on an eeePC 901? | |
| [15:31] <BUGabundo_work> keep xandros, eeebuntu, ubuntu eee, ubuntu-umpc? | |
| [15:33] <playya> BUGabundo_work, the installes xandros sucks on my 701 | |
| [15:34] <BUGabundo_work> I don't like it either! | |
| [15:34] <BUGabundo_work> but its not for me! | |
| [15:34] <playya> i have a eeXubuntu installed and going to test ubuntu-eee next week,... maybe | |
| [15:34] <BUGabundo_work> I tried it for a while but couldn't do all the things I do on ubuntu | |
| [15:34] <BUGabundo_work> so I booted umpc | |
| [15:34] <BUGabundo_work> and is now doing some package updates BEFORE I install it | |
| [15:35] <BUGabundo_work> let me know how it goes | |
| [15:35] <BUGabundo_work> so I can use the knowlage on this eeepc | |
| [15:35] <BUGabundo_work> any blog with your findings? | |
| [15:35] <playya> nope. not really | |
| [15:36] <BUGabundo_work> I'll have to ping you then, here or on #ubuntu-buga | |
| [15:36] <BUGabundo_work> *bugs | |
| [15:36] <BUGabundo_work> humm wifi won't work on 901?? | |
| [15:36] <playya> here | |
| [15:36] <BUGabundo_work> and I could only make it boot from the right side USBports | |
| [15:37] <BUGabundo_work> from the left it wouldn't boot... | |
| [15:40] <persia> Wifi on the 901 needs linux-backports-modules | |
| [15:40] <persia> Also, the package updates one does before install won't affect the install : it's generally better to install, and then update. | |
| [15:41] <BUGabundo_work> ok | |
| [15:41] <BUGabundo_work> sometimes there are updates on the installer | |
| [15:42] <BUGabundo_work> I happened to need that back on gutsy | |
| [15:42] <BUGabundo_work> or was it feisty? | |
| [15:42] <BUGabundo_work> bah.. long time | |
| [15:42] <BUGabundo_work> got a crash with this updates | |
| [15:42] <BUGabundo_work> should I file it? | |
| [15:42] <BUGabundo_work> it was a kernel update crash | |
| [15:42] <BUGabundo_work> I guess I don't need to | |
| [15:43] <BUGabundo_work> people don't do kernel updates on livecds/livepen | |
| [15:43] <persia> There's always updates available pre-install : it's just that applying those updates won't mean that the install has the updates applied : one needs to apply them again. Generally, it's easier to apply them only once post-install. | |
| [15:44] <BUGabundo_work> and the installer window is a few pixeis bigger then the screen | |
| [15:45] <BUGabundo_work> persia: playya should the swap go on the 4GBs SSD or the 16GBs? | |
| [15:45] <playya> i don't use any | |
| [15:45] <playya> ssd and swap = not a good idea | |
| [15:45] <persia> I wouldn't recommend putting swap on an SSD. | |
| [15:46] <persia> I'm a *huge* fan of swap, but for an SSD system, compcache is a better way to gain the advantages of swap. | |
| [15:46] <BUGabundo_work> and does the system hibernate without it? | |
| [15:47] <persia> Hmm. That's an interesting question, as hibernate usually goes to a swap partition. | |
| [15:47] <BUGabundo_work> yep | |
| [15:47] <BUGabundo_work> that's why I askt | |
| [15:48] <BUGabundo_work> what happens with your sustem playya? | |
| [15:49] <BUGabundo_work> I need an answer on this guys! | |
| [15:49] <playya> i never hibernated my EEE before | |
| [15:49] <BUGabundo_work> can you do it? | |
| [15:49] <BUGabundo_work> right now? | |
| [15:49] <BUGabundo_work> please? | |
| [15:49] <playya> maybe test it when I'm at home | |
| [15:49] <BUGabundo_work> preatty please? | |
| [15:49] <BUGabundo_work> with sugar on top? | |
| [15:49] <BUGabundo_work> ahhh | |
| [15:49] <BUGabundo_work> I need to format the laptop now | |
| [15:50] <BUGabundo_work> I'll have to leave work in an hour | |
| [15:50] <BUGabundo_work> and the boss wants to take it home | |
| [15:50] <playya> use swap. | |
| [15:50] <playya> mom | |
| [15:51] <playya> one second ;) | |
| [15:52] <BUGabundo_work> playya: ping | |
| [15:52] <BUGabundo_work> humm is he here still? | |
| [15:52] <playya> no response in other channels :( | |
| [15:52] <playya> i currently have a lesson | |
| [15:52] <BUGabundo_work> I'll go with swap | |
| [15:52] <BUGabundo_work> the laptop has 2GiBs | |
| [15:53] <BUGabundo_work> so 2.5Gbs should do it | |
| [15:53] <BUGabundo_work> I can remove it later from fstab | |
| [15:53] <playya> or you test without a swap | |
| [15:53] <BUGabundo_work> but adding it would be much more work | |
| [15:53] <playya> and resize later | |
| [15:53] <BUGabundo_work> too much work | |
| [15:53] <persia> BUGabundo_work, Do be careful : swap on SSD might reduce the SSD lifetime. Of course, this might be completely false : it's an unverified rumour. | |
| [15:53] <BUGabundo_work> removing is easier | |
| [15:53] <BUGabundo_work> eheh | |
| [15:54] <persia> Whether it's true probably depends as much on how the SSD is implemented as anything else. | |
| [15:54] <BUGabundo_work> BHAAAAAAAAAA | |
| [15:54] <BUGabundo_work> I can't quit the installer! | |
| [16:24] <BUGabundo_work> xkill it! | |
| [16:24] <BUGabundo_work> lolk | |
| === nib_ is now known as acidfu[job] | |