2008/11/05/#ubuntu-ops.txt

[00:00] <Flannel> Gah.
[00:00]  * Flannel really wants to ban someone, but has to leave in like 3 minutes.
[00:02] <mneptok> Flannel: whowhere?
[00:02] <Flannel> mneptok: fryguy in #u, it's a systemic thing, and he's been beligerrent ni the past, etc.
[00:03] <Flannel> His original issue is giving bad information, and then its compounded because he gets smart about it in querys
[00:03] <Flannel> Nevermind
[00:03] <Flannel> he's banned.
[00:03] <Flannel> He'll come in here and scream bloody murder (which is what I was trying to avoid, while I had to leave)
[00:03] <Flannel> just... tell him he needs to take it up with me.  I won't be gone for more than 4 hours.
[00:06] <fryguy> why was I just banned from #ubuntu?
[00:06] <mneptok> fryguy: looks like Flannel did the banning, i'd ask him.
[00:07] <fryguy> i did, he's unresponsive
[00:07] <mneptok> maybe AFK
[00:07] <fryguy> ban while i'm idling in the channel and then instantly go AFK? sounds sorta fishy
[00:08] <fryguy> anyway I can get unbanned? i'm trying to gather some information
[00:08] <mneptok> fryguy: not if he's trying to cool off
[00:09] <mneptok> fryguy: and no, another op will not remove another op's ban placed 5 minutes ago.
[00:09] <fryguy> i didn't do anything in the channel though.  How can I just get randomly banned from a channel?
[00:09] <mneptok> perhaps it was something you said in /query then
[00:10] <fryguy> what would /query have to do with the channel?
[00:10] <fryguy> isn't that what things like /ignore are for?   Like i said I'm just trying to idle in the channel to gather some information that's not really suitable for a question
[00:10] <jussi01> fryguy: he will be back in under 4 hours - I suggest you come back in about 4 h.
[00:11] <nalioth> fryguy: this is not serving you well.  the banning op isn't here.  please return when he is here.
[00:11] <mneptok> if you are displaying behavior toward an op that would warrant /ignore, then you should be banned, IMO
[00:11] <fryguy> mneptok: i don't think I was, apparently he thinks differently.
[00:11] <mneptok> fryguy: which is why you should speak to him, and why we will not remove a ban without consultation.
[00:12] <fryguy> are there other channels related to ubuntu that would be suitable to join to gain hardware level information about changes from 8.04->8.10
[00:12] <nalioth> fryguy: try ##linux 
[00:12] <fryguy> nalioth: i'm curious about ubuntu-specific changes from 8.04->8.10
[00:12] <nalioth> try ##linux 
[00:12] <fryguy> i would have picked linux in other situations, but this is very ubuntu-specific
[00:13] <fryguy> picked ##linux
[00:15] <nalioth> we'd appreciate it if you'd wait elsewhere, fryguy 
[00:15] <fryguy> ##linux isn't going to be able to provide me with information like whether my graphics card is going to work with the new configuration scheme in 8.10, something that I would be able to get from another ubuntu-specific channel.  Are there others I can check out, and if so what are they?
[00:15] <nalioth>   /msg alis help
[00:18] <fryguy> any specific recommendations?
[00:19] <fryguy> there's an awful lot of channels listed, probably more information than I can reasonably read in a short period of time
=== genii-2 is now known as genii-around
[00:21] <nalioth> fryguy: this is not a support channel.
[00:22] <fryguy> it's for operator/abuse questions, of which I was asking about, and am now asking for a solution to my operator/abuse question.
[00:22] <mneptok> *sigh*
[00:22] <fryguy> a simple recommendation for another source for the information I need since I was denied the main source for some reason is all i'm asking for
[00:23] <mneptok> you got several recommendations.
[00:23] <mneptok> users do not get to idle here until they get the answer they want. they are allowed to idle here until they get an answer.
[00:23] <fryguy> mneptok: I don't believe I was given a recommendation.  I was given a resource to obtain a complete list, many of which seem to be foreign languages and other things of no use to me.  I am asking for a recommendation of all of the information given is all
[00:23] <mneptok> you got 2. "wait for Flannel" and "try ##linux"
[00:24] <nalioth> fryguy: let me be blunt.  Leave now and don't come back until flannel is active.
[00:24] <fryguy> mneptok: flannel can't give me the information I want, and "try ##linux" is wrong
[00:25] <fryguy> I guess asking for a reasonable recommendation is too much to ask
[00:25] <genii> Difficult fellow.
[00:33] <mneptok> taaaaasty hobbitseses.
[00:34] <LjL> meh as easy as starting a /query on mirc is, my sister had to try estabilishing a dcc chat
[00:34] <LjL> i didn't even realize it could be her, dismissed as a channel spammer :|
[00:35] <mneptok> mIRC?
[00:35] <mneptok> really? in 2008?
[00:37] <Pici> Sadly I know many windows users who still use it :(
[00:40] <LjL> mneptok, pici: so what's wrong with mirc? it certainly scrolls and switches tabs faster than this elephant i have here
[00:40] <LjL> don't suggest xchat on windows or i'll start laughing
[00:41] <mneptok> Bersirc? HydraIRC?
[00:42] <LjL> i don't know, mirc works anyway, and it's what i know
[00:42] <LjL> anyway she just managed to query me
[02:05] <Pici> !election is <reply> Politics is offtopic for #ubuntu, but we invite you to join #election to discuss the US Presidental election.
[02:05] <ubottu> I'll remember that, Pici
[02:05] <Pici> Hows that sound?
[02:05] <tritium> Sounds fine to me, Pici.
[02:08] <nalioth> you want a factoid that'll only be good for 4 more hours?
[02:08] <Pici> Why not?
[02:09] <nalioth> well, there are more channels than #election 
[02:09] <nalioth> and two, the factoid is not needed, imho
[02:09] <Pici> I just picked the one that #freenode had in its topic.
[02:09] <nalioth> i'd suggest you add /msg alis list *election* instead of picking one
[02:09] <nalioth> if not deleting it altogether
[02:10] <tritium> And just use standard offtopic?
[02:10] <Pici> Hm?
[02:10] <Pici> It uses $chan
[02:10] <nalioth> yes, imho, that would be best
[02:10] <tritium> I'm asking nalioth what he proposes if you delete !election
[02:10] <nalioth> Pici: !o4o
[02:10] <Pici> ah
[02:11] <Pici> I'll just tell ubottu to forget it if you feel that strongly
[02:11] <nalioth> i'm just one person
[02:11] <nalioth> with one opinion
[02:12] <nalioth> i don't think we need to touch on the election at all, officially
[02:12] <Pici> You walk softly and carry a big stick...
[02:12] <nalioth> tritium is here. ask him.
[02:12] <Pici> :)
[02:13] <tritium> I don't have a preference.
[02:13] <Pici> ubottu: forget election
[02:13] <ubottu> I'll forget that, Pici
[02:13] <Pici> Use your fingers for the typing then :)
[02:15] <nalioth> i usually do
[02:19] <mneptok> i headbang the keyboard, and usually get desired output between the lines of the death metal lyrics
[02:36] <tritium> What's up with all the /join/parts from FSCK_FSCK_FSCK?  Just a bad connectoin?
[02:36] <tritium> connection*
[02:42] <nalioth> no.  it's abuse.
[03:54]  * genii sips his coffee
[04:06]  * genii watches Flannel work in #ubuntu and takes notes
[04:07] <Flannel> genii: auto_bleh++
[04:08] <genii> Flannel: I'm just observing :)
[04:08] <Flannel> genii: You can also watch... or, I guess not, the same guy continue to spam me in a query
[04:08] <Flannel> Hes just hitting up and hitting enter.  Rather boring.  If you're going to be at obnoxious, at least be creative.
[04:09] <mneptok> amen.
[04:09] <Flannel> Eh, at what point does excess flood kick in anyway?
[04:11] <mneptok> Flannel: Depends (tm)
[04:11]  * mneptok cracks himself up
[04:11] <genii> Hm
[04:12] <genii> Is there even some flood monitor in PM??
[04:13] <mneptok> no
[04:13] <Flannel> Gah.
[04:21] <genii> Hah, they are persisting in political talk in #kubuntu even after several gentle warnings. Good thing it's slow support-wise atm
[04:22] <vorian> i'll peak my head in
[04:23] <genii> It's slowed down now and mostly back on-topic
[04:23] <vorian> good deal
[04:26] <Flannel> it'd be +b *!*@unaffiliated/thedoc  right?
[04:26] <Flannel> oh
[04:26] <Flannel> tritium beat me to it
[04:26] <tritium> Ah, sorry.  :)
[04:27] <Flannel> Nah, save me from having to manually message chanserv, etc.
[04:40] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-cn, deaddummy said: ubot3, ubuntu 8.10 is newest Ubuntu distribution !
[04:42] <genii> Ok, going /away since this nick is on quassel .... gnite
[04:42] <jdong> NO WAI!
[04:42] <jdong> actually 9.04 is but anyway.
[05:29] <Flannel> ubottu: tell QAWAYO about away
[05:43] <Flannel> sigh.
[06:18] <Flannel> Seriously.  Why is it so interesting to people to shout something before they leave?
[06:26] <Madpilot> people like getting the last word in.
[06:43] <Myrtti> morning
[06:44] <Flannel> Howdy Myrtti 
[06:54]  * Flannel is apparently trogdor.
[07:00] <Myrtti> a what?
[07:01] <Flannel> Myrtti: trogdor: http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html
[07:02] <Flannel> Oh, thats a game.
[07:02] <Flannel> Let me find the video
[07:03] <Flannel> Myrtti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEy8CZqN3c
[07:04] <Flannel> I believe its all clean.  But I haven't watched it in... forever, so... be aware.
[07:07] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[07:08]  * Myrtti gets more coffee, cries a bit and watch the video after surviving the blues
[07:12] <Madpilot> morning Myrtti 
[07:14] <Myrtti> ♥ 
[08:10] <Flannel> Alright, I'm off.  Have fun
[08:44] <Tm_T> hi kids
[08:45] <Tm_T> jussi01: sorry no I do not know
[09:49] <MARY> Enter text here...
[09:51] <MARY> MM
[09:54] <Gary> gnomefreak: lol, I just flicked to what I thought was #Defocus and saw you join, and voiced you, oopsy
[09:54] <Gary> t'was #freenode, d'oh
[09:54] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:55] <Gary> I feel such a dork
[09:56] <gnomefreak> eh it isnt that bad, no worries
[09:56] <elkbuntu> have there been many problems given today's political milestone?
[09:57]  * gnomefreak was better off not remembering about yesterdays election :(
[09:59] <elkbuntu> sorry
[10:00] <gnomefreak> its ok i was wondering how it turned out so i was gonna remember sooner or later
[10:00] <elkbuntu> oh. i hope it turned out the way you wanted.
[10:01] <elkbuntu> i know it did for me. i will not verbalise why.
[10:01] <elkbuntu> mainly because reading it afterwards would give me nightmares.
[10:05] <gnomefreak> no i was hoping for mickey mouse to win but eh
[10:06] <elkbuntu> nah, should have been donald duck, then the finns would have been banned from seeing footage of the US president
[10:07] <elkbuntu> (it was finland he was banned from, yes?)
[10:07] <gnomefreak> not sure
[10:08]  * Myrtti wants a huggle
[10:08] <Myrtti> he wasn't banned in Finland
[10:09] <Myrtti> it.
[10:09] <elkbuntu> sweden
[10:09] <elkbuntu> ?
[10:09] <elkbuntu> it was somewhere in that region, i can never remember where though
[10:09] <Myrtti> no
[10:09] <Myrtti> it's an urban legend
[10:10] <elkbuntu> ah
[10:10] <Myrtti> cities of Helsinki and Kemi cut down their spending, canceling their subscription of the magazine at dentists etc.
[10:10] <elkbuntu> i did always wonder why people who skinny dip in holes in ice would be worried about a pantless duck.
[10:11] <elkbuntu> or is the skinny dipping another urban myth?
[10:11] <Myrtti> no
[10:12] <elkbuntu> ok cool. if it was, i was going to ask if IRC and Linux were urban myths too,
[10:12] <Myrtti> don't forget ssh
[10:12] <elkbuntu> true
[10:13] <elkbuntu> but if IRC and Linux were gone, i couldnt give a damn about ssh :P
[10:13] <Myrtti> [11:56] <+elkbuntu> have there been many problems given today's political milestone?
[10:13] <Myrtti> [11:57]  * gnomefreak was better off not remembering about yesterdays election :(
[10:13] <Myrtti> [11:59] <+elkbuntu> sorry
[10:13] <Myrtti> dämnit
[10:13] <Myrtti> http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/finland.asp
[10:13] <Myrtti> that was what I meant to paste
[10:15] <elkbuntu> snopes takes all the fun out of life though :(
[11:59] <jussi01> !no scanners is <reply> Scanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Skanlite (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR
[11:59] <ubottu> I'll remember that jussi01
[12:26] <ikonia> ubuntu appears to be a bit annoying today
[12:26] <ikonia> lots of smart comments
[12:43] <LjL> the floodbots are broken
[12:57] <elkbuntu> :(
[12:58] <LjL> the floodbots are fixed
[12:58] <elkbuntu> possibly a bad time to go breaking them. can they be rolled back to a non-b0rked edition?
[12:58] <elkbuntu> yay!!
[12:58] <LjL> i didn't break them now, i just noticed they're broken now
[12:58] <Pici> Floodbots are dead, long live the Floodbots
[12:58] <LjL> there were instances when they'd mute people but never unmute them
[13:00] <elkbuntu> why the freaking hell can i *still* not get wireless on my eee, despite it allegedly being fixed in adam's kernel?
[13:00] <LjL> siccness is about to go
[13:00] <elkbuntu> LjL, please
[13:00] <ikonia> he's been walking a tightrope
[13:00] <LjL> elkbuntu: adam's kernel is array.org's?
[13:00] <Pici> Has he? I just got here.
[13:00] <elkbuntu> LjL, yep
[13:00] <LjL> elkbuntu: but you've got a 701 yes?
[13:00] <elkbuntu> Pici, he doesnt even use ubuntu
[13:00] <elkbuntu> LjL, yep
[13:01] <elkbuntu> but it allegedly fixed it for 701 too, no?
[13:01] <LjL> elkbuntu: works on my 901, except for the known issue that you cannot turn it off without crashing
[13:01] <LjL> elkbuntu: try -proposed perhaps, i'm using it
[13:01] <jussi01> elkbuntu: can you tell me how things are with 3g prepaid connections over there? do they exist? how much etc?
[13:01] <elkbuntu> LjL, it's only livecd atm
[13:01] <LjL> ah
[13:02] <LjL> elkbuntu: live cd of what, ubuntu eee?
[13:02] <elkbuntu> jussi01, they exist only on 12-24mth contracts
[13:02] <elkbuntu> LjL, no. vanilla intrepid
[13:02] <Nafallo> elkbuntu: works for me with plain 8.04.1 + BenC's test-kernel.
[13:02] <jussi01> damn - so yu cant get a prepaid data ?
[13:02] <LjL> elkbuntu: but vanilla intrepid is not the array.org kernel
[13:02] <LjL> Nafallo: now what's benc's test kernel?
[13:02] <elkbuntu> LjL, i know. but it's not like the array.org kernel appeared yesterday
[13:03] <Nafallo> elkbuntu: UNR broke horrible on 8.10 last time I tried :-)
[13:03] <elkbuntu> Nafallo, unr?
[13:03] <elkbuntu> i dont have time to maintain a TLA dictionary anymore, sorry.
[13:03] <LjL> elkbuntu: but the array.org kernel is made of hacks. talk to synrg in #eeepc, he'll explain the situation much better than i can
[13:04] <Nafallo> elkbuntu: Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[13:04] <elkbuntu> LjL, hacks are better than no wifi :(
[13:04] <Nafallo> LjL: http://blog.phunnypharm.org/2008/08/ubuntu-kernel-next.html
[13:04] <LjL> elkbuntu: not in the long term
[13:06] <LjL> elkbuntu: other than 3g, you don't, like, have a railways site with comprehensive timetables like everybody else?
[13:07] <elkbuntu> LjL, cityrail.info countrylink.info
[13:08] <elkbuntu> Nafallo, way too much effort for an eee
[13:08] <elkbuntu> and, i leave for work in 8 hrs, so bed time for me.
[13:09] <LjL> elkbuntu: i had missed cityrail. still meh, i'm used to typing start station, end station and departure time, not browsing through a list of lines... you are lagging behind technology :(
[13:10] <LjL> our railways site is wonderful, shows where every train is in realtime. they're all so much delayed that one wonders *why* they want you to see that in realtime.
[13:11] <Nafallo> elkbuntu: I disagree. but it's running damn well on that one :-)
[13:11]  * Nafallo ponders trying to steal kernels from intrepid-security pinned instead.
[13:35] <jussi01> stdin: lokai is trolling a bit, you think?
[13:35] <stdin> personally, I'm sick of people coming in and saying "OMG KDE4 IS THE SUXORZ!!!!1" 
[13:37] <stdin> I'd say, if they are asking for support, then ok. if they are just complaining, then they're being a little trollish
[13:37] <ikonia> stdin I'm sick that also
[13:46] <LjL> bazhang: what, there is *yet another* DE around?
[13:46] <bazhang> LjL, hehe
[13:47] <bazhang> he is definitely t--rolling
[13:47] <bazhang> LjL, cant figure out how to not have key press repeat on lxde though.
[13:48] <LjL> bazhang: well, i'm seeing screenshots, and the launcher is identical to the eeepc. and i have a key repeat problem on the eeepc. so, there's your explanation - they copied all of it ;)
[13:48] <bazhang> LjL, yup that's it :)
[13:49] <bazhang> just installed on my eeepc as well
[13:49] <LjL> bazhang: anyway trolling or not he's most probably right, kde 4 on my nvidia card works terrible too, with or without kwin effects, and i'm pretty sure that's a bug somewhere (possibly in the nvidia code), not merely the computer not being good enough
[13:49] <LjL> i'm using the netbook remix interface on mine
[13:51] <jussi01> yeah, nvidia code has a few issues with kde4 although my 9500gt is going alright :D
[13:52] <LjL> jussi01: i get very slow scrolling/resizing and garbage showing up briefly when opening a menu
[13:53] <ikonia> @bansearch askdksdl
[13:53] <ubottu> No matches found for askdksdl!n=user@h63n7c1o1097.bredband.skanova.com in any channel
[13:53] <jussi01> LjL: yeah, same here with the garbage, the slow resizing and stuff only sometimes. but yeah, its useable
[13:54] <jussi01> it is nvidia.ko fault though...
[13:54] <LjL> although i don't get it, with effects disabled wouldn't it just be using pretty standard graphics calls
[13:57] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[13:58] <Pici> Hi Myrtti!
[13:58] <ikonia> Myrtti: perk up
[13:58] <Myrtti> meh.
[13:59] <bazhang> <Linux_> does anyone know how come i cant get on hack this site's IRC server?
[14:07] <ikonia> nice
[14:33]  * genii sips his coffee
[14:57]  * genii hands Myrtti a nice apple cider
[14:59] <nalioth> no apfelschnapps?
[15:00] <genii> nalioth: I may have some peach schnapps someplace.... 
[15:02]  * nalioth prefers a shot of southern comfort in a tumbler of apple juice
[15:18] <jussi01> LjL: having fun in #k ? :D
[15:26] <LjL> jussi01: i really wouldn't call it fun
[15:26] <jussi01> hehe
[15:34] <jussi01> @bansearch lokai
[15:34] <ubottu> No matches found for lokai!n=vsudilov@opti6.mpe-garching.mpg.de in any channel
[16:15]  * ikonia is fed up of people thinking the server release is a minimal install
[16:15] <ikonia> when did a server become a "minimal" install
[16:16] <ikonia> "I don't want X so I installed the server"
[16:16] <Pici> Since minimal isn't advertized that much on the download page?
[16:17] <ikonia> even so 
[16:17] <ikonia> server is not a minimal install in any book
[16:22] <nalioth> ikonia: there are two "servers" in folks' mind, and most of them are thinking of the non-live install disc 'server option', not the actual ubuntu-server distro
[16:22] <ikonia> yup, just gets tiresome to hear "I don't want X so I installed an enterprise big iron server"
[16:24] <nemo> Hey guys, I have to know. Seriously, did you guys make a rule specifically banning the three *letters* "WTF" from #ubuntu ?
[16:24] <nemo> 'cause, well, doesn't that seem stupid? heck. WTF is about as family friendly a way to express a WTF as I can think of
[16:26] <jrib> !wtf
[16:26] <ubottu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:26] <jrib> yep
[16:26] <bazhang> all #buntu channels
[16:26] <nemo> riiight. and what mental convolutions did folks jump through to arrive at that?
[16:26] <jrib> nemo: just try to avoid.  Some people are offended
[16:26] <nemo> that's idiotic - one of the main points of the accronym is to avoid the profanity
[16:26] <jrib> ^dt
[16:26] <jrib> it
[16:27] <bazhang> think it dont type it
[16:27] <nemo> getting reprimanded for deliberately trying to use inoffensive language to express extreme anger - rather annoying
[16:27] <jrib> nemo: for *you*.  Others feel differently about it.  Remember, people in #ubuntu come from very many different cultures
[16:27] <nemo> thinking it doesn't convey it
[16:27] <jrib> nemo: think of it as being informed, not reprimanded
[16:27] <bazhang> then take a time out until the rage passes.
[16:28] <nemo> I'm at a loss to think of a culture that would both know what it means and think that that combination of letters is offensive
[16:28] <jrib> how is spelling it out any different than the acronym?  They have the same meaning
[16:28] <nemo> jrib: spelling it out is using the precise word that some consider offensive
[16:28] <jrib> characters -> eyes -> brain -> meaning
[16:28] <nemo> it is like saying  f-word
[16:28] <nemo> or f!@#
[16:29] <nemo> jrib: the whole point is to protect "innocents"
[16:29] <nemo> if any "family" member knows what WTF means they are, defacto, not innocent
[16:29] <jrib> nemo: same "yogurt" instead of "wtf", that will work
[16:29] <nemo> right. if the word actually conveyed the same meaning, it'd get banned too
[16:29] <nemo> oh well. question answered. you're all idiots. thanks for clarification :)
[16:30] <jrib> idiot
[16:30] <bazhang> @bansearch nemo
[16:30] <ubottu> No matches found for nemo!i=nemo@c-76-21-160-106.hsd1.md.comcast.net in any channel
[16:30] <Pici> Think it, don't type it.
[16:30] <ikonia> why do you have to express the meaning "what the fuck"
[16:30] <ikonia> why not say "this is confusing", or "this is frustrating"
[16:30] <ikonia> why do you have to convey that message
[16:30] <bazhang> irc rage?
[16:31] <rNhxYA_r> ikonia: how the fuck should i know
[16:31] <ikonia> ljl is in disguise again
[16:31] <Gary> I'm an idiot, woot
[16:31] <bazhang> !ohmy | LjL
[16:31] <ubottu> LjL: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:31] <rNhxYA_r> i'm not in disguise it's just by bouncer
[16:31] <rNhxYA_r> i rebooted a couple times, it got confused
[16:31] <ikonia> rNhxYA_r: thats what all ban evaders say
[16:31] <bazhang> hehe
[16:31] <jussi01> heheh
[16:31] <ikonia> @bansearch rNhxYA_r
[16:31] <ubottu> No matches found for rnhxya_r!n=ljl@213-140-17-103.ip.fastwebnet.it in any channel
[16:31] <ikonia> awwww
[16:31] <bazhang> hahahaha
[16:32] <bazhang> nothing yet
[16:32] <Gary> rNhxYA_r: have you seent he /topic, no idlign here pls
[16:32] <jrib> you know, I'm waiting for the day a ban evader realizes he just needs to change his ident to 'ljl'
[16:32] <rNhxYA_r> see, i'm innocent like some child who doesn't know "wtf"
[16:32] <bazhang> *yet*
[16:32] <rNhxYA_r> jrib, right, give them ideas
[16:32] <Gary> LjL, innocent? mwhahaaaa
[16:32] <rNhxYA_r> also, i'd never heard you commenting "idiot" after someone left before, i'm worried :P
[16:32] <jussi01> I couldnt... not to ljl
[16:33] <Gary> jussi01: I could...
[16:33] <jrib> rNhxYA_r: well you can only say it outloud so many times before your fingers take over
[16:33] <jussi01> @mark rNhxYA_r because he needs to be in the BT :D
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[16:33] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[16:33] <Gary>  /CKICK rNhxYA_r No Idling here pls
[16:33] <jussi01> ok, where is she?
[16:34] <jussi01> just slow
[16:35] <LjL> jrib: but this way your appellation of saint jrib will eventually be revoked?
[16:35] <LjL> why does my wifi card not want to work in AP mode :<
[16:37] <jussi01> LjL: because it hates you
[16:38] <LjL> it's mutual
[16:42] <ikonia> is /csak a common alias for anyone
[16:43] <Pici> No, what does that do?
[16:43] <ikonia> no idea, got a guy in pm who was sending people ctcp version requests
[16:43] <ikonia> while asking him why he was doing it he did /csak ugy 
[16:43] <ikonia> by mistake
[16:43] <ikonia> wondering what he's up to / trying to do 
[16:45] <ikonia> he's been sat idle in #ubuntu for a while and two people have nudged me to say he was sending out version requests
[16:45] <ikonia> I think he's playing "dumb"
[16:46] <LjL> ikonia: who is this guy, is he banned?
[16:46] <ikonia> not banned, talking to him in pm
[16:46] <ikonia> interware
[16:46] <ikonia> claimed he was just "bored"
[16:46] <ikonia> he seems genuine, but the /csak clip makes me think he's playing dumb
[16:47] <LjL> ikonia: sending random people ctcp versions is rarely genuine
[16:47] <ikonia> I know
[16:47] <ikonia> but young kid hitting buttons on xchat - for example
[16:47] <ikonia> it is plausable
[16:47] <Pici> Its one thing to do it to a bot... 
[16:48] <Pici> (which he did)
[16:48] <LjL> ikonia: is he hungarian?
[16:48] <ikonia> he's agreed to stop
[16:48] <ikonia> LjL: yup
[16:48] <ikonia> LjL: or so he claims (broken english a bit)
[16:49] <LjL> csak means "only"
[16:49] <ikonia> ok, but the / in front of it ?
[16:49] <ikonia> typo ?
[16:49] <Pici> Ah.
[16:50] <Pici> Its in the same form as my chanserv commands. i.e.: /csban
[16:50] <ikonia> Pici: thats what made me think
[16:50] <ikonia> Pici: same for my kick command
[16:50] <ikonia> could just be a typo though, eg: fat figners hitting / 
[16:50] <LjL> could be, weird coincidence he's hungarian though
[16:51] <LjL> i didn't check whether he was when i asked you - it was a conjecture only based on the word csak itself
[16:51] <ikonia> he does seem genuine
[16:51] <ikonia> and apologetic
[16:51] <ikonia> and he's done nothign else wrong, not even spoke
[16:51] <ikonia> just said he was bored
[16:51] <Pici> Tell him its disruptive
[16:52] <ikonia> he knows
[16:52] <ikonia> he was fine
[16:52] <LjL> so "csak ugy" means "la-la" according to a dictionary. tells, erm, a lot, i guess.
[16:53] <ikonia> not to worry, I was just double checking as the /csak woke me up
[17:40] <genii> Hmm. What to do with a nick like:  ubuntu_sucks_dic
[17:40] <nalioth> genii: ask them to change it?
[17:40] <genii> OK
[17:40] <nalioth> ( in a PM, of course )
[17:41] <genii> Woops too late
[17:44] <genii> Looks like they are AFK or just lurking, etc
[17:44] <Seeker`> woo for lurking
[17:45] <genii> Heh
[17:47] <LjL> perhaps it's time to prepare for closing -party?
[17:47] <genii> Redirect them all to ##politics    ;)
[17:48] <Seeker`> oi
[17:48] <Flannel> That'd be against the CoC ;)
[17:48] <LjL> i'd do it softly softly, i.e. just set +i
[17:48] <LjL> but for starters, i'll remove references to it from topics
[17:59] <nalioth> genii: that's not nice at all  :(
[18:00] <genii> nalioth: Very true, yes
[18:04] <Josesordo> this is the help channel?
[18:05] <PriceChild> Josesordo: Change your ident please. You aren't the first and its definitely not witty.
[18:05] <Josesordo> my nickname?
[18:05] <PriceChild> -!- Josesordo [n=fuckyou@190.32.232.77] has joined #ubuntu-ops
[18:06] <Josesordo> ok
[19:00] <LjL> but seriously, if you want to "crack" some zip file
[19:00] <Pici> A hammer?
[19:00] <LjL> is it *so* hard to type "apt-cache search zip crack"?
[19:01] <genii> I gave him already the syntax for unzip with password
[19:01] <Pici> He doesn't have the password
[19:01] <genii> Ah
[19:02] <genii> Makes one wonder of the origin of the file.... ;)
[19:02] <LjL> 'course it does
[19:06] <Pici> LjL: orgthingy is a bit of a troll if you aren't already aware.
[19:06] <LjL> Pici: so am i
[19:06] <LjL> if you aren't already aware
[19:09] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[19:09] <LjL> Pici: ah right, this time there *was* a reason why hedkandi was on my highlight list
[19:09] <LjL> check bt
[19:09] <LjL> if you haven't already
[19:09] <LjL> that explains why they aren't "helpful" in -motu
[19:11] <Pici> LjL: ah... him.
[19:12]  * Pici bops Myrtti on the head with some celery
[19:12] <Myrtti> thanks. I had a headache from crying, now with celery I'll get a straight on migraine.
[19:12] <Pici> :(
[19:13]  * nalioth drops the celery in a bloody mary and offers it to Myrtti 
[19:13]  * LjL just has a strobing camera flash on his hands, uses on Myrtti
[19:13]  * Myrtti hisses to the idea of eating raw celery
[19:14] <nalioth> no, you don't eat it, you stir the drink with it  :)
[19:15] <Myrtti> I stay within minimum 5 meters perimeter from raw celery in any form
[19:16] <Myrtti> or something
[19:16] <Pici> Your decision? or theirs?
[19:18] <genii> I think this is the first time I've ever heard of a celery allergy
[19:23] <Myrtti> I'm not allergic to celery
[19:23] <Myrtti> I just get one hell of a migraine from it
[19:24] <Pici> You coul'd just say you were and we'd believe it.
[19:28] <nalioth> celery stalks are not my favorite food, either, but celery root is another story
[19:29] <Myrtti> I love celery, if it's not raw. However, it's impossible to get in other forms
[19:30] <genii> Celery salt is awesome
[19:34] <Pici> Celery soda is *yech*
[19:35] <genii> --> urza (n=root@156.12.35.97) has joined #ubuntu
[19:35] <genii> <urza> hello niggers.
[19:35] <Pici> genii: already removed.
[19:37] <genii> OK
[19:55] <PriceChild> nixternal: did he do it to you?
[19:56] <nixternal> yup
[19:56] <PriceChild> oh wait i just noticed it against me.
[19:56] <Pici> The floodbots banned him
[19:56] <nixternal> the floodbots did't prevent him from sending me that crap
[19:56] <Pici> For some reason mib_bzm4b7 is /actioning joins and parts.
[19:57] <PriceChild> nixternal: klined
[19:57] <Pici> nixternal: indeed, but you can't do a dcc send to an entire channel after you've been banned.
[20:11] <Myrtti> PriceChild: poke Wellark?
[20:11] <PriceChild> Myrtti: pardon?
[20:11] <Myrtti> about yesterdays NetworkManager stuff
[20:11] <PriceChild> ah yeah I did, and he said thanks but was ill
[20:11] <Myrtti> ah
[20:13] <Mez> "Steve Gray is starting to think he smells cos he`s sitting in a pub with no customers AGAIN!!!! someone please come out i`ll give you free drinks."
[20:13] <Mez> Think I may go out ;)
[20:15] <Myrtti> I think I will *gasp* go to bed and sleep
[20:15] <Pici> Heh. #defocus-uncensored
[20:15] <Pici> Myrtti: I expect a smile tomorrow, feel better
[20:16] <Myrtti>  I will, I just take byebyes badly
[20:17] <Myrtti> a glass of orange juice, a cheddar-mince-rice filled crepe and off to bed.
[20:27] <Myrtti> nomnomnom crepes
[20:27] <Myrtti> bwurp.
[20:28] <elkbuntu> Pici, you kid, surely
[20:29] <Tm_T> Myrtti: might have startings tomorrow, so standby (;)
[20:29] <Myrtti> ooooohhh
[20:30]  * Myrtti huggles
[20:30] <Tm_T> might, might be next week
[20:30]  * Tm_T <3 huggles
[20:30] <Myrtti> I just had a lovely week.
[20:30] <Tm_T> good (:)
[20:30] <Tm_T> you deserved it
[20:31] <Myrtti> and now I think I'll really head to bed to get back the missed sleep
[20:31] <Tm_T> good night littlesister
[20:31] <Myrtti> nini brutha :-)
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[23:19] <ubottu> stdin called the ops in #ubuntu (acm1pt)
[23:20] <nalioth> lovely
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[23:35] <genii-around> @login
[23:35] <ubottu> Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
[23:35] <genii-around> Hm
[23:36] <genii> @login
[23:36] <nalioth> ALARM!
[23:36] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[23:36] <genii> nalioth:  ?
[23:36] <nalioth> oh, never mind  :P
[23:36] <genii> Heh
[23:36] <genii> nalioth: Apparently it doesn't like one of my work connection info or such
[23:38] <genii-around> It shows my cloak and accepted my nickserv identify.