2008/11/02/#ubuntu-ops.txt

[00:54] <szymon_g> hi
[00:54] <PriceChild> szymon_g: Give it a short while then ask X3N about it.
[00:55] <szymon_g> ok, but i dont see him here :/. anyway- i will try to catch him on the morning, i've to go to sleep
[00:55] <PriceChild> szymon_g: use /query
[01:17] <jrib> !trash =~ s/changed in/changed since/
[01:17] <ubottu> I'll remember that jrib
[01:17] <jrib> !trash
[01:17] <ubottu> The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash
[01:21] <ubottu> ivantis called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[01:23] <jrib> I'm confused
[01:24] <ivantis> so
[01:24] <Pici> ivantis: Can you rephrase what you are asking, we're a little confused. I think I know what you're asking, but I'm not sure.
[01:24] <ivantis> how do i make a bot an official one for ubuntu?
[01:24] <ivantis> you need to approve it?
[01:25] <Pici> ivantis: A bot for #ubuntu ?
[01:25] <ivantis> yeah
[01:26] <Pici> We currently do not have any plans for adding new bots to the channel.  
[01:27] <PriceChild> ivantis: why do we want one of your bots? What does it do?
[01:27] <ivantis> stuff
[01:28] <Pici> ubottu serves as our factoid bot and the floodbots control floods and whatnot.  Unless we're talking about something innovative that we might need.
[01:28] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[01:28] <ivantis> #perlbot
[01:28] <jrib> heh
[01:28] <ivantis> its name is perlbot2
[01:28] <Flannel> ivantis: And what does it do?
[01:28] <ivantis> i wrote it myself in perl
[01:28] <ivantis> it has bot-aliases
[01:28] <ivantis> fetch command
[01:28] <ivantis> echo command
[01:28] <PriceChild> "Why?"
[01:29] <ivantis> im currently working on making it accept DCCs for paste-bin-ing
[01:29] <nalioth> ivantis: how will it help folks in #ubuntu and is it easy to use?
[01:29] <ivantis> easy enough
[01:29] <Flannel> ivantis: and the former?
[01:29] <nalioth> ivantis: the tools must be as simple as possible
[01:29] <ivantis> join #perlbot
[01:29] <ivantis> to test it
[01:30] <Flannel> ivantis: A simple explanation would be nice
[01:30] <ivantis> uh
[01:30] <ivantis> well, i guess its similar to supybot
[01:30] <ivantis> i designed it after that
[01:31] <jrib> ivantis: what feature does it have that will help users in #ubuntu?
[01:31] <Seeker`> why is it better than ubottu?
[01:31] <ivantis> fetch
[01:31] <jrib> what is fetch?
[01:31] <ivantis> better than ubottu?
[01:31] <ivantis> lets not get complex here
[01:31] <ivantis> fetch = grab web pages
[01:32] <jrib> what does grabbing web pages on irc mean?
[01:32] <ivantis> join #perlbot
[01:32] <ivantis> im not good at explainations
=== csilk_ is now known as csilk
[01:37] <Flannel> csilk: How can we help you?
[01:38] <csilk> You can't, no worries I'm gone
[01:38]  * nalioth blinks
[03:17] <jdong> mneptok: are you awake at this time of night?
[03:30] <ubottu> In ubottu, ardchoille said: !kde4 is KDE 4.1.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2 - Support in #kubuntu
[03:47] <Flannel> tea4all: How can we help you?
[03:48] <tea4all> I'm trying to get onto the #ubuntu channel
[03:48] <tea4all> but pidgin keeps putting me on this channel instead 
[03:58] <Flannel> No bans in bantracker.
[03:58] <Flannel> Or, that I could ese.
[03:59] <Flannel> Whats the command to list bans on the server itself?
[04:07] <Flannel> tea4all: try #ubuntu now
[04:07] <tea4all> Typed in "#ubuntu" and ended up here
[04:07] <tea4all> will try again
[04:07] <Flannel> tea4all: right, someone on your host was forwarded here.
[04:08] <tea4all> fixed
[05:57] <mneptok> jdong: sadly, yes
[06:00] <jdong> mneptok: ah, would you have the capability to contact your friends in the UK at the moment, in particular James Troup?
[06:00] <jdong> the forum proxy frontend has gone down for a few hours now
[06:28] <mneptok> jdong: nope. fast asleep
[08:20]  * ikonia is awake
[08:26] <bazhang> @login
[08:26] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[08:26] <bazhang> @bansearch necrosan
[08:26] <ubottu> No matches found for necrosan!n=necrosan@cpe-70-92-169-149.wi.res.rr.com in any channel
[08:27]  * Flannel is waiting patiently for him to step out of line again.
[08:38] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, magnetron said: !ask is <reply> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily).  If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply.  ·)
[08:40] <bazhang> [encephalitogenic] (n=outp@static-76-160-1-238.dsl.cavtel.net): utilizer spamming in #kubuntu
[08:42] <nekostar> ffs
[08:42] <nekostar> bazhang you really are heavy handed
[08:42] <nekostar> this is exactly why so many of us hate the croud that is on this shiz
[08:43] <Flannel> nekostar: You were being extremely rude
[08:43] <nekostar> ive not asked you to pm me either.
[08:43] <nekostar> Flannel so were yall.
[08:43] <bazhang> nekostar, you have no need to reply so strongly to everyone that way (at least three people)
[08:43] <jussi01> !stfu | nekostar
[08:43] <ubottu> nekostar: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:43] <Flannel> nekostar: How was I being rude to you?
[08:43] <nekostar> lmfao
[08:43] <nekostar> Flannel come on - yall - most general statement ever
[08:43] <nekostar> lets see
[08:43] <jussi01> nekostar: that goes for all ubuntu channels
[08:43] <Flannel> nekostar: Alright, how were "we" being rude to you?
[08:43] <nekostar> hold on
[08:44] <nekostar> meh anyway
[08:44] <nekostar> it doesnt matter
[08:44] <nekostar> if yall are serious about not using acronyms then we shouldnt call it gnu/linux anymore should we
[08:44] <Flannel> nekostar: You're right, it doesn't.  Even if someone is rude to you, you shouldn't be rude back.  And you certainly shouldn't toss out the guidelines.
[08:44] <nekostar> now i'm sure that seems quite ridiculous as it should.
[08:44] <jussi01> nekostar: acronyms are fine, just not ones like those mentioned
[08:45] <nekostar> oh no Flannel i will toss em out.
[08:45] <nekostar> jussi01 they are understood widely, and i will never stop using them till i feel they cannot be used to communicate.
[08:45] <bazhang> nekostar, you were muted only so we could have a chat.
[08:45] <nekostar> and as i spend a lot of my free time helping people out
[08:45] <Flannel> nekostar: then you might as well run along.  You're certainly not going to be unbanned with that attitude.
[08:45] <nekostar> bazhang heavy handed
[08:45] <bazhang> that was the purpose of the PM.
[08:45] <nekostar> i dont care bazhang you didnt ask to pm
[08:45] <nekostar> which makes you as rude as anyone else
[08:46] <Flannel> nekostar: When ops do it, it's to maintain your privacy.
[08:46] <Flannel> nekostar: Either that, or we scold you publicall, which doesn't help anything.
[08:46] <nekostar> shush for a bit plz
[08:46] <nekostar> ffs
[08:46] <bazhang> nekostar, you were disrupting the channel with your aggression
[08:47] <nekostar> and since we dont use acronyms you can ust ignore that
[08:47] <nekostar> <nekostar> no what are you using 
[08:47] <nekostar> <nekostar> what interface XxLordMaiestasxX 
[08:47] <nekostar> <Gnea> EdLin: why not?
[08:47] <nekostar> * tecnicodpc has quit (Client Quit)
[08:47] <nekostar> <abe3k> <`TonY> : I'll just mark it for reinstallation and see what happens :)
[08:47] <nekostar> <nekostar> gnome kde what
[08:47] <nekostar> * fallore (n=fallore@c-24-6-110-37.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #ubuntu
[08:47] <nekostar> <Vipsta> I installed kbuntu on my laptop and im getting GRUB Loading, please wait.... Error 18
[08:47] <nekostar> <XxLordMaiestasxX> as in?
[08:47] <nekostar> * KalEl has quit ("Ex-Chat")
[08:47] <nekostar> <XxLordMaiestasxX> i am not quite sure myself
[08:47] <nekostar> <nekostar> as in is the menu on the bottom left or top left
[08:47] <nekostar> <XxLordMaiestasxX> sorry
[08:47] <nekostar> <EdLin> Gnea, it's a usb dvd drive
[08:47] <nekostar> <nekostar> its ok 
[08:47] <nekostar> <`TonY> abe3k, ok
[08:47] <nekostar> <favro> !who | nekostar
[08:47] <nekostar> <ubottu> nekostar: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[08:48] <Flannel> nekostar: We're all in #ubuntu, we can see the conversation.
[08:48] <nekostar> o jeez
[08:48] <jussi01> nekostar: as I said... acronyms are fine, just not ones like those mentioned
[08:48] <nekostar> i forget how many lines to a flood out
[08:48] <nekostar> yeah
[08:48] <nekostar> i was thinking i could just reference start and end sections
[08:48] <nekostar> lol
[08:48] <nekostar> so up 
[08:48] <nekostar> starting where i didnt die
[08:48] <nekostar> <nekostar> <nekostar> no what are you using 
[08:48] <nekostar> from there
[08:49] <nekostar> <favro> !who | nekostar
[08:49] <nekostar> <ubottu> nekostar: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[08:49] <nekostar> we get to there
[08:49] <nekostar> stupid sod doesnt understand basic concept of continuity
[08:49] <nekostar> <nekostar> favro if you never got the memo, around a decade ago it was decided that irc should follow the same guidelines as books in that as you speak if you do not continue to designate a person per line, then its automagically routed to the last known good destination [person who you were initially speaking to] which means at this point BUTT OUT thanx
[08:49] <nekostar> read to there
[08:49] <Flannel> nekostar: That's not how IRC works.
[08:50] <bazhang> nekostar, you were asked not to use the enter key so much.
[08:50] <nekostar> where i kindly without being too much of a dick point out using this as a sort of metaphore 
[08:50] <nekostar> bazhang i dont really care what you ask there.
[08:50] <Flannel> nekostar: Besides the fact that you *do* in fact need to address the person each time, you *shouldnt* be using more than one line to address a person at a time to begin with.
[08:50] <nekostar> i dont do like
[08:50] <nekostar> lol
[08:50] <nekostar> omg
[08:50] <bazhang> to which you gave a !guidelines to the person requesting it.
[08:50] <nekostar> no wai
[08:50] <nekostar> ~_~
[08:50] <nekostar> ffs
[08:50] <nekostar> thats really
[08:50] <nekostar> orly
[08:50] <nekostar> yarly
[08:50] <bazhang> ok
[08:50] <nekostar> sorry there but point is 
[08:50] <nekostar> i might type short bits
[08:50] <bazhang> the mute has been changed to a ban.
[08:50] <nekostar> but those are my thoughts and that's how i talk
[08:50] <nekostar> whatever
[08:50] <nekostar> so i type how i talk, and well
[08:51] <nekostar> yeah
[08:51] <Flannel> nekostar: #ubuntu has 1500 people.  You need to talk one line at a time, not one clause at a time.
[08:51] <nekostar> i've been doing it that way in that channel for longer than youve been on freenode
[08:51] <nekostar> Flannel i understand that this is a bit overwhelming for you
[08:51] <nekostar> and some of the others apparently
[08:51] <nekostar> and apparently the worst we feared has happened
[08:52] <Flannel> nekostar: Goodbye nekostar.  Nice talking to you.  You should try back in a week or two.  Maybe you'll be able to convince us to lift the ban then.
[08:52] <nekostar> we're left with a bunch [not all but it's really starting to look more and more like the active majority] of heavy handed idiots with egos
[08:52] <Flannel> nekostar: Be sure to read the channel guidelines, and the code of conduct in the meantime.
[08:52] <nekostar> dont u understand you serve the same people i do?
[08:52] <nekostar> the newer perhaps less experienced users?
[08:52] <nekostar> if you have forgotten this already you should just go install windows or something and leave irc completely.
[08:53] <nekostar> do you even understand what i mean ?
[08:53] <bazhang> nekostar, your "style" is too disruptive.
[08:53] <nekostar> lets open this up to whoever butespecially Flannel  and bazhang 
[08:53] <nekostar> bazhang my style gets ppl's boxes fixed that other ppl fuck off
[08:53] <nekostar> my style lands me a job at a DC
[08:53] <bazhang> no need for that language nekostar 
[08:53] <Flannel> nekostar: And that statement epitomizes the reason youre banned.
[08:53]  * nekostar shrugs
[08:54] <nekostar> oh thats just wonderful lol
[08:54] <nekostar> so your saying that in a non `public` shall we say [since its limited tho not truely private] you still cant handle plain english?
[08:55] <nekostar> honestly now, you should feel good i'm giving you this much of my time.
[08:55] <nekostar> normally i would just evade
[08:55] <nekostar> ;)
[08:55] <nekostar> and dont bother i'm set up - and can change each class of ip
[08:55] <Flannel> nekostar: You're not making a coherent argument anymore nekostar.  I strongly suggest you take some time off to cool down, and come back to discuss this in a week or so.
[08:55] <nekostar> >:P
[08:55] <nekostar> no Flannel 
[08:55] <bazhang> ban evasion is not a wise choice nekostar 
[08:55] <nekostar> yall are hurting new users, and quite frankly i'm not willing to let go of it
[08:56] <nekostar> bazhang trust me ask the best
[08:56] <nekostar> you cant stop me nor find me unless i prefer it that way
[08:56] <nekostar> lol
[08:56] <Flannel> nekostar: You're welcome to appeal to the IRC council.
[08:56] <nekostar> no Flannel 
[08:56] <nekostar> i'll just evade.
[08:56] <nekostar> if i had been asked nicely
[08:56] <nekostar> instead of someone flagging the bot because they know some stupid trigger
[08:57] <jussi01> nekostar: which will likely earn you a network wide ban...
[08:57] <nekostar> and quite frankly trying to rub something in my face that i just slammed back at the original person
[08:57] <nekostar> jussi01 no not really ^^
[08:57] <nekostar> so anyway
[08:57] <nekostar> back to the breakdown of the ops getting heavy handed
[08:58] <ikonia> this is going no where - lets drop it
[08:58] <nekostar> <favro> nekostar: I don't care  
[08:58] <nekostar> favro's well thought out reply you can see 
[08:58] <nekostar> note that my reply to him originally there i actually took the time to think about
[08:58] <nekostar> and type
[08:58] <ikonia> nekostar: it doesn't matter
[08:58] <nekostar> type quite a bit as a matter of fact.
[08:58] <nekostar> it matters ^^
[08:58] <nekostar> i'm giving you the chance to do the right thing ;)
[08:58] <ikonia> nekostar: no-one else other than your behaviour was open for discussion
[08:58] <ikonia> lets drop this
[08:59] <nekostar> no
[08:59] <nekostar> <nekostar> XxLordMaiestasxX ok very good. this means your almost certainly using gnome, and your trying to run a kde application where it doesnt really belong. on top left click applications > accessories > terminal
[08:59] <nekostar> see there?
[08:59] <ikonia> can someone mute / remove this guy please
[08:59] <nekostar> thats me bravely continuing to help the poor sod
[08:59] <nekostar> ikonia thats just lame
[08:59] <bazhang> he is banned in #ubuntu
[08:59] <nekostar> <bazhang> !attitude | nekostar
[08:59] <nekostar> <ubottu> nekostar: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:59] <ikonia> bazhang: in here, as he's just rambling on
[08:59] <Flannel> jussi01, mind doing the honors?
[08:59] <nekostar> and that brings us to our current critique of bazhang here.
[08:59] <bazhang> ikonia, still in #kubuntu however
[09:00] <nekostar> bazhang ive not done anything there
[09:00] <nekostar> ^^
[09:00] <nekostar> where were we.
[09:00] <ikonia> nekostar: stop now. Please
[09:00] <nekostar> right so for basically trying to continue to help the guy, bazhang there gives me a stiff warning.
[09:00] <nekostar> see here's the funny bit though.
[09:00] <bazhang> nekostar, please part now. come back in a week or two
[09:00] <ikonia> nekostar: your approach to the guy - not trying to help was the problem
[09:00] <nekostar> bazhang isn't actually at that point helping anyone
[09:00] <nekostar> i am.
[09:00] <ikonia> nekostar: your not seeing that so - lets drop it
[09:01] <nekostar> so bazhang here is logically when you look at it beating on me for helping someone looking for it.
[09:01] <nekostar> dragging me down for donating my time
[09:01] <jussi01> nekostar: please come back in a few days when you have calmed down!
[09:01] <ikonia> thank you
[09:01] <bazhang> nekostar, you were being overly aggressive.
[09:01] <bazhang> oops
[09:01]  * jussi01 goes to watch #kubuntu
[09:01] <Flannel> Watch for backlash in #k
[09:01] <Flannel> yeah
[09:01] <ikonia> ha ha, I was just about to say that
[09:02] <jussi01> remind me how to fetch a memo?
[09:02] <jussi01> [11:01:54] <MemoServ:MemoServ> You have a new memo from starscalling (nick: nekostar).
[09:02] <Flannel> jussi01: /msg memoserv help ;)
[09:02] <Flannel>  /mgs memoserv read 0, likely
[09:02] <jussi01> Flannel: let me be lazy! :P
[09:03] <Flannel> jussi01: see attached ;)
[09:04] <jussi01> lovely, threatening me :/
[09:04] <jussi01> [11:03:39] <MemoServ:MemoServ> Memo 1 - Sent by starscalling, Nov 02 09:01:53 2008
[09:04] <jussi01> [11:03:39] <MemoServ:MemoServ> ------------------------------------------
[09:04] <jussi01> [11:03:39] <MemoServ:MemoServ> there will be consequences
[09:04] <Flannel> Ah.  Definate Ubuntu community material right there!
[09:04] <ikonia> kudos to him for not going off in #kubuntu though
[09:04] <bazhang> wow
[09:04] <jussi01> so is that worth a staff call? is a threat a freenode thing?
[09:05] <jussi01> ikonia: yet...
[09:05] <bazhang> jussi01, yes
[09:05] <ikonia> I think it's more a case of "I'll tell the others on you"
[09:05] <ikonia> I didn't take that as a "threat"
[09:05] <bazhang> jussi01, and the "I'll evade"
[09:05] <Flannel> jussi01: If it becomes an actual threat, notify the staff.  So if he threatens others (becomes a regular thing, crosses a threshold, whatever) action can be taken
[09:06] <jussi01> here comes #k
[09:06] <bazhang> he is talking about bans in #kubuntu
[09:06] <jussi01> bazhang: Im on it
[09:06] <Flannel> do the regular thing.  first mention he's offtopic, yadda ydda.  independant channels and all that.
[09:06] <bazhang> jussi01, and favro is there too
[09:07] <jussi01> I msg'd favro with: Please dont feed the troll!
[09:09] <jussi01> @mark nekostar [11:03:39] <MemoServ:MemoServ> there will be consequences
[09:09] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[09:32] <jussi01> oops
[09:32] <Flannel> definately don't remove that ban on the jussi01 fellow.
[09:32] <Flannel> Can't trust him.
[09:32] <bazhang> haha
[09:33] <jussi01> hehe
[09:59] <ikonia> 09:02 < nekostar> wow
[09:59] <ikonia> 09:02 < nekostar> i'm sorry
[09:59] <ikonia> 09:02 < nekostar> but i just fucking got to vent.
[09:59] <ikonia> 09:02 < nekostar> anyone got a good suggestion for a distro besides ubuntu?
[09:59] <ikonia> 09:03 < nekostar> ever since they started that fucking irc council every single  stupid god damn one of them seem to think their some sort of demigods
[09:59] <ikonia> 09:03 < nekostar> and god damn it hardly any of them even know wtf their doing  with linux much less fucking irc
[10:00] <ikonia> 09:03 < nekostar> </rant>
[10:00] <elkbuntu> o.O
[10:00] <elkbuntu> where?
[10:00] <ikonia> ##linux
[10:01] <ikonia> he was a bit of a pain in #ubuntu earlier, then started ranting in ##linux (only just noticed) he got ignored though
[10:02] <elkbuntu> heh, who actually banned him in #ubuntu? or is he ranting because nobody heeded his demand for immediate customer slavery?
[10:02] <ikonia> bazhang did, and it was because he was rude/agressive
[10:02] <ikonia> "I help loads of people, you all know nothing, so I can do what I want" etc
[10:02] <elkbuntu> bazhang, wow, you're on the council now? :Þ
[10:03] <bazhang> elkbuntu, sweeet! :)
[10:03] <bazhang>   /jk
[10:04] <Flannel> elkbuntu: You can scroll up and read it.  He was just as beliggerent here as in #u, if not moreso.
[10:05] <Flannel> He even quoted himself from #u, so you don't have to switch back and forth.  A bit odd, the quotes certainly didn't help his case.
[10:06] <ikonia> nice that he got ignored in ##linux though
[10:06] <elkbuntu> Flannel, the really fun trolls always do that
[10:07] <Flannel> This guy wasn
[10:07] <Flannel> wasn't trolling.  He actually thought he was justified
[10:07] <elkbuntu> the *other* meaning of 'fun', dear
[10:07] <elkbuntu> that is still trolling.
[10:08] <Flannel> eh, that's debatable.  Certainly not productive, but I dont think I'd call it trolling
[10:09] <elkbuntu> trolling has many guises
[10:21] <elkbuntu> i'm trying to find that forums post with the classifications of different types of trolls
[10:51] <elkbuntu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1032102
[10:52] <elkbuntu> i was looking in the cafe, but it was in beginner talk ??
[12:42] <jussi01> Yay, we have a new review of the code :P http://mjg59.livejournal.com/99905.html
[12:42] <jussi01> !ultamatix
[12:42] <ubottu> Ultamatix is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu.  Use of this software may cause damage to your Ubuntu install.  Do not suggest its use in this channel.  See !automatix for more info.
[12:42] <jussi01> !automatix
[12:42] <ubottu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubottu WorksForMe »
[12:43] <elkbuntu> jussi01, i PM'd him a bit ago :)
[12:44] <jussi01> !no, ultamatix is <reply> Ultamatix is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu.  Use of this software may cause damage to your Ubuntu install.  Do not suggest its use in this channel. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/99905.html and !automatix for more info.
[12:44] <ubottu> I'll remember that jussi01
[12:44] <jussi01> !ultamatix
[12:44] <ubottu> Ultamatix is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu.  Use of this software may cause damage to your Ubuntu install.  Do not suggest its use in this channel. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/99905.html and !automatix for more info.
[12:45] <jussi01> elkbuntu: excellent. I had to giggle at some of the stuff there though. :D
[12:45] <wgrant> Awesome review.
[12:46] <elkbuntu> oh, and please use the advogato version of his blog when citing on wikipedia
[12:46] <elkbuntu> lj is somewhat scorned there
[12:46] <wgrant> Not surprising.
[12:46] <elkbuntu> http://www.advogato.org/person/mjg59/diary/81.html is the advogato version of the automatix one
[12:47] <elkbuntu> the ultamatix one should be easier to find
[12:51] <wgrant> "the author's managed to produce a huge steaming pile of shite despite having been told how to avoid doing so beforehand"
[12:51] <wgrant> Perfect.
[12:51] <elkbuntu> have i ever mentioned how much a <3 mjg?
[12:51] <wgrant> I was just about to say '<3 mjg59'
[12:51] <elkbuntu> s/i/a/
[12:51] <elkbuntu> errr, other way
[12:52] <elkbuntu> s/a/i/
[12:52] <wgrant> Somebody should probably blog about his blogging, given that I don't think he's on Planet.
[12:53] <elkbuntu> he always used to be...
[12:53] <elkbuntu> he is
[12:53] <elkbuntu> third from the top at the moment
[12:53] <wgrant> Oh.
[12:53] <wgrant> Ah, Liferea was being stupid.
[12:55] <elkbuntu> however, i will blog.
[12:55] <elkbuntu> and that wikipedia page is not going to escape this time.
[12:55] <wgrant> I wonder what they'd think if posts cropped up about it on forumubuntusoftware.
[12:56] <elkbuntu> one way to find out
[12:56] <wgrant> Didn't somebody recently cleanse the Wikipedia page of the evils that it mentioned?
[12:56] <elkbuntu> wgrant, someone recently removed any criticism, yes.
[12:57] <wgrant> Now, TheeMahn will presumably start calling mjg an incompetent soon.
[13:00] <elkbuntu> of course.
[13:00] <elkbuntu> or impossible to please
[13:00] <elkbuntu> or both
[13:00] <elkbuntu> snuxoll is on the wikipedia case
[13:01] <wgrant> Good.
[13:23]  * PriceChild notices mjg's review of ultimatix on planet
[13:26] <wgrant> PriceChild: Still rofling?
[13:28]  * PriceChild wonders if he is halfway through
[13:30] <elkbuntu> nah, it's pretty horrendous, that's only a scraping, as was my blog post
[13:30] <elkbuntu> however, i dont count for anything, according to the wikipedia larks who keep removing me as a source.
[13:31] <PriceChild> !ultimatix
[13:31] <ubottu> Ultamatix is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu.  Use of this software may cause damage to your Ubuntu install.  Do not suggest its use in this channel. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/99905.html and !automatix for more info.
[13:31] <jussi01> PriceChild: way ahead of you :D
[13:31] <PriceChild> Just noticed the backlog.
[13:31] <PriceChild> jussi01: I would prefer we quoted further.
[13:31] <jussi01> PriceChild: go ahead!
[13:32] <PriceChild> no ultimatix is  <reply> "Don't install this package. Don't let anyone else install this package. If you see anyone advocating the installation of this package, call them a fool. There's absolutely no excuse whatsoever for the existence of this kind of crap." See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/99905.html
[13:32] <PriceChild> :P
[13:32] <jussi01> hehe
[13:32] <elkbuntu> heh
[13:32] <elkbuntu> he's right though. it's worse than automatix
[13:32] <wgrant> I wonder if TheeMahn knows who mjg is.
[13:32] <elkbuntu> wgrant, he's about to find out.
[13:33] <wgrant> Heh heh heh.
[13:34] <PriceChild> wgrant: elkbuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5477031&postcount=15
[13:35] <wgrant> I know he knows that he exists.
[13:35] <elkbuntu> yeah, lol
[13:35] <wgrant> But I'm not sure he knows that he's so almighty.
[13:35] <PriceChild> ohh ok
[13:35] <elkbuntu> Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts <-- rofl (unless it's broken or something)
[13:35] <wgrant> 'I am no newbie to programming.'
[13:35] <wgrant> Woah.
[13:35] <wgrant> Almost 1000 posts and not been thanked? Awesome.
[13:36] <PriceChild> I have 5000 posts and only 36 thanks.
[13:37] <elkbuntu> PriceChild, but how many ubuntu variants do *you* make?
[13:37] <PriceChild> 'thanks' hasn't been around very long omparatively.
[13:37] <wgrant> Hm, I guess that feature is only fairly new, isn't it?
[13:37] <PriceChild> maybe a year, not sure
[13:37] <elkbuntu> better than kaarma crap anyday
[13:38] <wgrant> He has enough 2nd-level Ubuntu-related domains!
[13:38] <elkbuntu> they're all .info, no?
[13:38] <wgrant> Yes.
[13:38] <PriceChild> uu more people have put me as their referrer
[13:41]  * wgrant goes to bed, happy with the knowledge that Ultamatix's death sentence is being carried out.
[13:47] <jussi01> PriceChild: any word from the CC yet? last I heard was this on friday:
[13:47] <jussi01> [13:06:05] <jussi01> Hey there, Just another quick repoke re: IRCC - been a week since I last poked :D
[13:47] <jussi01> [13:06:58] <dholbach> I poked just today, we're discussing and I hope we get moving quickly
[13:49] <elkbuntu> jussi01, assuming they'll email the ircc list, rather than pricey privately, no word yet.
[13:49] <jussi01> elkbuntu: ok. :) thanks
[13:53] <elkbuntu> the wikipedia page has been updated
[14:42] <PriceChild> Hmm acerhk doesn't compile on Intrepid :(
[14:44] <PriceChild> oh but there is a package in intrepid.. :/
[14:51] <ikonia> PriceChild: from native source, or the deb source package ?
[14:54] <PriceChild> !info acerhk-source
[14:54] <ubottu> acerhk-source (source: acerhk): Source for the acerhk driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.35-3 (intrepid), package size 37 kB, installed size 80 kB
[14:54] <PriceChild> Just installed and modprobed with a few options :D
[15:16] <jussi01> So ikoniaI was thinking I should probably stop in birmingham or somewhere and have a beer with these crazy people there... suggestions?
[15:31] <ikonia> jussi01: what sort of info are you looking for
[15:32] <bazhang> welshman
[15:34] <jussi01> ikonia: well... is it feaseable to go via birmingham... Im on a budget..
[15:35] <ikonia> if your coming to mine from manchester you will stop or maybe even change trains in birmingham so won't effect any budget 
[15:36] <bazhang> going to remove him again if he keeps up
[15:36] <bazhang> he has been removed once already ; now giving openly bad advice
[15:48] <ikonia> !staff | 15:47 -!- mo_tau_aja [n=ioioi@124.195.112.113]
[15:48] <ubottu> 15:47 -!- mo_tau_aja [n=ioioi@124.195.112.113]: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian or PriceChild, I could  use a bit of your time :)
[15:48] <ikonia> spamming paypal hack links
[15:52] <bazhang> welshman offtopic; concur?
[15:52] <PriceChild> bazhang: What has happenned so far with it?
[15:53] <bazhang> PriceChild, with that user?
[15:53] <PriceChild> yep, have you done anything?
[15:53] <bazhang> PriceChild, he has been warned repeatedly, and he was removed once.
[15:53] <bazhang> he has continued unabated however
[15:54] <PriceChild> All done.
[15:54] <bazhang> thanks PriceChild 
[15:54] <PriceChild> bazhang: I didn't do a thing.
[15:54] <bazhang> the line was when he started giving out clearly wrong info to users
[15:55] <bazhang> PriceChild, no; thanks for hearing me out.
[16:01] <nalioth> mo_tau_aja shown the door
[16:12] <ikonia> danke
[17:22] <ubottu> ompaul called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (^^)
[17:23] <nalioth> so he did
[17:56] <ubottu> In #ubuntu, NicEXE said: ! my problem is MySQL not MythTV ! I tried to install MythTV today but the installation was unsuccessful. (the installation was staying in the same point even if I was clicking next: "chose a new password for mysql server") The problem is that me and the rest world can no longer view my website because of a database error: "Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL" How can I go back? I hav
[17:56] <nalioth> ubottu: tell nicexe about yourself
[18:06] <Susana> is this the place to report people who are trying to convince people they are freenode staff when they are not identified as such?
[18:06] <Susana> or is that normal?
[18:06] <jussi01> Susana: no, that would be #freenode
[18:06] <PriceChild> Susana: PM?
[18:07] <jussi01> oh, you are in luck
[18:37] <nalioth> ikonia: you have most of the staff here
[18:38] <ikonia> nalioth: pm ok ?
[18:38] <nalioth> ikonia: "you may always PM staff"
[18:38] <ikonia> just double checking
[19:14] <Tm_T> christel: nooooooooooooo
[19:14]  * LjL jumps off the chair
[19:14] <ikonia> evening gents
[19:17] <christel> Tm_T: im so sorry :)
[19:17] <christel> hehe
[19:17] <Tm_T> oh well, have to find reasonable option for orwell
[19:23] <Tm_T> christel: better? (;
[19:27] <christel> yus! much :)
[19:35] <Tm_T> any estimation?
[19:40] <christel> it'll go down at 9pm gmt, we've said 1h for the downtime window but it shouldnt take anywhere near that long, maybe 20 minutes max
[20:22]  * Flannel grumbles at people laying in wait.
[20:23] <LjL> Flannel, annoying huh
[20:24] <Flannel> Only when I don't know the answer ;)
[20:24] <Tm_T> Susana: who are you?
[20:24] <Flannel> "I couldn't solve your issue last night, was relieved when you went to bed, why couldn't someone else solve it this morning?"
[20:27] <Susana> Tm_T: ?
[20:29] <Tm_T> Susana: I mean, is there something we can help you with?
[20:31] <jussi01> !idle | Susana
[20:31] <ubottu> Susana: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[20:32] <Susana> ok sorry bye
[20:33] <Tm_T> (:
[20:33] <jussi01> Tm_T: your backwards smileys are annoying...
[20:34] <Tm_T> I'm leftie
[20:34]  * Flannel reads from left to right, not the other way around.
[20:35] <Flannel> Tm_T: ?oot siht ekil gnitirw gniog ot trats uoy erA
[20:35] <Flannel> hmmm
[20:35] <jussi01> what?
[20:35] <Flannel> mix those words around so they make sense.
[20:35] <Tm_T> Flannel: err, no?
[20:36] <Flannel> s/start to going/going to start/
[20:36] <jussi01> Flannel: backwards!!
[20:59] <Mez> jussi01: lennalF?
[20:59] <Mez> (is that like gandalf?)
[21:00] <Mez> wgrant: you look scary
[21:01] <Flannel> Mez: Shhh.  You're giving away the source of my powers.
[21:02] <Mez> your precious ?
[21:05] <ikonia> you beat me to it by a second
[21:05] <ikonia> Flannel: 
[21:05]  * Flannel wins!
[21:05] <Flannel> ikonia: I was considering a variety of reasons.
[21:05] <Flannel> decided to just keep it simple
[21:06] <ikonia> who was the mibbet guy ?
[21:07] <Flannel> no idea
[21:07] <Flannel> 13:06 < wiggaplz> Can Ibex handle 12" of cock in his rectum?
[21:07] <ikonia> didn't see that
[21:08] <Flannel> right after the "can intrepid handle 3rd party repos"
[21:08] <wgrant> Mez: How do you know?
[21:08] <Nafallo> wgrant: aren't you asleep?
[21:08] <wgrant> Ah, I see the friend request.
[21:09] <wgrant> Not any more.
[21:09] <Flannel> tritium: er....
[21:09] <Flannel> not ban evasion?
[21:09] <wgrant> I was about 40 seconds ago.
[21:09] <tritium> Flannel: ?
[21:09] <Flannel> tritium: He wasn't banned.
[21:09] <Nafallo> wgrant: geek
[21:09] <tritium> Flannel: was he muted?
[21:09] <Flannel> tritium: No, I just removed him.
[21:09] <tritium> Ah, sorry.  My bad.
[21:10] <Flannel> tritium: He was *going* to be banned, based on his next few sentences
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[21:10] <wgrant> Nafallo: Correct.
[21:10] <Flannel> but, its likely moot.
[21:10] <tritium> Flannel: I'm sorry.
[21:10] <Flannel> No worries
[21:10] <tritium> Now what??
[21:11] <Flannel> nothing.  He was out to cause trouble from the get-go
[21:12] <tritium> OK, I should have left him to you.
[21:12] <Mez> wgrant: lol - blame Nafallo for that ;)
[21:12] <wgrant> Mez: I noticed.
[21:12] <wgrant> Heh.
[21:12] <Nafallo> paah. only 19 friend suggestions :-P
[21:13] <Nafallo> well, 20, but one was only slightly Ubuntu related ;-)
[22:27]  * Flannel fully admits it was probably premature.
[22:30] <Flannel> So, who votes these are all the same guy?
[22:31]  * Flannel wins!