| [01:24] <Appl3Kork> TANATHOS u still there? | |
| [01:24] <Appl3Kork> or is anyone here? | |
| [01:27] <tonyyarusso> Asking a question about Ubuntu Server tends to be more productive than asking if anyone is here. | |
| [01:30] <Appl3Kork> well I can't seem to ever get my server detected outside my home network | |
| [01:30] <Appl3Kork> that's what I always keep running into | |
| [01:30] <Appl3Kork> I'm looking at the server guide right now, and trying to figure out in the search mydomain.example | |
| [01:31] <tonyyarusso> define "detected" ? | |
| [01:31] <Appl3Kork> i have apache, which people told me is used so people can download files from my server | |
| [01:32] <Appl3Kork> but when I give them g3rm.dontexist.com, it doesn't send them to it | |
| [01:32] <Appl3Kork> though when I type that in, it goes to it | |
| [01:32] <Appl3Kork> so I guess the g3rm.dontexist.com is linked with my internal IP or something | |
| [01:34] <Appl3Kork> well actually when i type that in, it goes to my Modem config page | |
| [01:34] <tonyyarusso> Hokay, we'll start with some simple bits. Check http://www.whatismyip.com/ and tell me if it's 75.169.246.22 | |
| [01:35] <tonyyarusso> Do these other users also end up at your modem config, or an error page? | |
| [01:35] <Appl3Kork> yes that's it | |
| [01:35] * tonyyarusso tries himself | |
| [01:35] <Appl3Kork> it just says for them unable to connect | |
| [01:36] <tonyyarusso> All right, pull up your modem config and find the bit about remote access if you can. | |
| [01:36] <Appl3Kork> I found remote management/telnet | |
| [01:37] <Appl3Kork> is that what i need? | |
| [01:37] <Appl3Kork> they are both set to off | |
| [01:38] <tonyyarusso> Both set to off eh? Excellent. Leave that alone then and find the bit about port forwarding. | |
| [01:38] <Appl3Kork> ya I have port 81 being forwarded on both TCP and UDP | |
| [01:39] <Appl3Kork> cause I guess port 80 is blocked by my isp | |
| [01:39] <tonyyarusso> Oh really? All right then. Did you set up apache to use 81 to match? | |
| [01:40] <Appl3Kork> ya I set that up in apache using webmin | |
| [01:40] <ScottK> Appl3Kork: Remember when I said webmin isn't supported here. | |
| [01:40] <tonyyarusso> err, yeah. I have no idea what webmin does. Perhaps you could just pastebin your configuration. | |
| [01:40] <Appl3Kork> yes I know | |
| [01:41] <Appl3Kork> is there a command that lets me look it up in putty | |
| [01:41] <ScottK> You'd be better off to ask the webmin folks how to use webmin to do what you want. | |
| [01:42] <tonyyarusso> Appl3Kork: Everything's in /etc/apache2/, primarily in sites-available/default. http://apache.pastebin.ca/ will even do pretty syntax highlighting for it. | |
| [01:42] <tonyyarusso> Or what ScottK said if you'd like to stick with the webmin route. | |
| [01:42] <Appl3Kork> well I don't mind not using webmin | |
| [01:43] <Appl3Kork> I was just following a tutorial that said to install that. If you can just guide me through the linux way, I would rather do that anyways | |
| [01:44] <tonyyarusso> Sure. You can use 'cat' to output the contents of the config file(s) and copy-paste from there to the pastebin, then give the link here, and I'll see if I can figure out what's going on. | |
| [01:46] <Appl3Kork> just type in cat in putty | |
| [01:47] <slestak> i cannot find any docs on what is included in the different software selection prompts duirng install. | |
| [01:47] <slestak> i want a minimal system, what is in "Basic Ubuntu Server" | |
| [01:47] <slestak> installing JeOS for trac development | |
| [01:48] <Appl3Kork> this is from typing sudo cat /etc/apache2/sites-available/default: http://paste.ubuntu.com/65485/ | |
| [01:50] <slestak> i just didnt sleect any, i'll ust apt to get what i need | |
| [03:01] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hello everyone. I need to set up my mail server to read for multiple domains and based on MySQL databases - not Linux users. All I've done is tell the OS installer to install the mail server - among other things. How do I set my mailserver up to read on three seperate domains (@wizardwars.org, @legionrp.com, and @dbd-cz.com) and users not based on Linux users? | |
| [03:17] <uvirtbot> New bug: #291921 in samba (main) "package libsmbclient 2:3.2.3-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291921 | |
| [03:18] <ScottK> AirstrikeIvanov: There is no short answer to your question. That's a not a beginner setup. | |
| [03:19] <ScottK> AirstrikeIvanov: Some hints are you'll want Dovecot for your mail delivery agent and probable virtual domains. | |
| [03:19] <ScottK> probable/probably. | |
| [03:19] <ScottK> AirstrikeIvanov: I recommend "The Book of Postfix" as it has most of the piece parts you need described. | |
| [03:31] <tonyyarusso> I'll second that - great book, and seems to be the unanimous rec. of everyone I asked. | |
| [03:32] <uvirtbot> New bug: #291937 in samba (main) "package libwbclient0 2:3.2.3-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291937 | |
| [03:32] <tonyyarusso> Appl3Kork: what about /etc/apache2/ports.conf? | |
| [03:38] <AirstrikeIvanov> The Book of Postfix? Got it. And I do have Dovecot installed - Dovecot 1.0.10, Postfix 2.5.1 and Procmail were installed by the ubuntu installer's mailserver bundle. | |
| [04:29] <slestak> i have a jeos intrepid vm running that i had to install the generic kernel due to pae not being implemented in vbox. i want to uninstall the default server kernel package because i am really lowballing this thing for space and resources | |
| [04:29] <slestak> cannot determine what the name of the default server kernel package is | |
| [04:29] <slestak> thought it would be linux-server, but that is not installed | |
| [04:30] <firecrotch> slestak: linux-image-server | |
| [04:32] <slestak> firecrotch: hmm, apt says its not installed, but i still have those choices in /boot/grub/menu.lst | |
| [04:33] <slestak> can i do a dpg-reconfigure of grub to get the menu.lst rebuilt based on current kernels? | |
| [04:34] <centaur5> slestak: My server is just running linux-image-generic | |
| [04:35] <ScottK> slestak: update-grub is IIRC what you want. | |
| [04:35] <slestak> centaur5: mine is now, but not by default when i installed. i had to install the generic package. i followed the JeOS howto at ubuntu.com and vm wouldnt boot because kernel required pae | |
| [04:36] <slestak> so i had to reboot in rescue mode to get diff kernel package | |
| [04:36] <slestak> update-grub, ok | |
| [04:36] <firecrotch> slestak: what kernels are actually in your /boot directory ? | |
| [04:37] <slestak> lol, too minimal a system, no man pages, and update-grub --help tries to run. glad i didnt use sudo. :0) | |
| [04:37] <centaur5> slestak: So you're using Jeos and virtualbox? | |
| [04:37] <slestak> server and generic | |
| [04:38] <slestak> centaur5: yes | |
| [04:38] <slestak> i know its not in the docs | |
| [04:38] <centaur5> slestak: Just out of curiosity why did you choose that combination? | |
| [04:39] <slestak> im using vbox for soem other vm;s and neede da quick vm for some dev work | |
| [04:39] <slestak> didnt really want to mix diff vm type on this laptop, its not that beefy | |
| [04:40] <slestak> wanted sth minimal with ssh, python, and trac | |
| [04:41] <centaur5> Oh, so you're not actually running multiple virtual servers for e-mail, LDAP, etc? | |
| [04:41] <slestak> centaur5: no, just trying to cut my teeth with floss development. (pun not intended.) | |
| [04:42] <slestak> helping someone with a trac plugin. | |
| [04:42] <slestak> ive been a consumer of foss for years, want to try ti contribute | |
| [04:43] <centaur5> Alright, I just decided this week I want to do virtual servers but not sure which application I want to use. Jeos, vmware, vbox, qemu. So many choices. | |
| [04:43] <slestak> i figured i want to pick one and learn it well enough to fit my circumstance. not get 3 different vm products, and learn none of them well | |
| [04:44] <slestak> vbox works well enough for me, and the price is right | |
| [04:44] <centaur5> I want to use only one as well just not sure the best way to go about it. I know that there will probably be benefits to one over the other just haven't figured that out yet. | |
| [04:45] <slestak> there are cheerleaders in all of their camps. imo, vbox has the easiest learning curve | |
| [04:45] <slestak> top | |
| [04:45] <slestak> sorry | |
| [04:47] <slestak> i do see linux-image-generic and linux-image-virtual | |
| [04:47] <slestak> is the 2nd necessary? | |
| [04:47] <slestak> hey, u missed my last comment and question :) | |
| [04:48] <centaur5> My upgrade to intrepid must have automatically adjusted my power settings and shut me down while I was discharging. | |
| [04:48] <slestak> man, pidgin will not let me repeat easy. just a sec | |
| [04:48] <slestak> there are cheerleaders in all of their camps. imo, vbox has the easiest learning curve | |
| [04:48] <slestak> i do see linux-image-generic and linux-image-virtual. is the 2nd necessary? | |
| [04:50] <slestak> i guess one reason i picked vbox is i never liked the way vmware always makes fake nics that pollute my ifconfig output, and i can just nat vbox. and xen seems to require way too much complexity | |
| [04:50] <centaur5> I've never had a reason to install the image-virtual but then again I haven't started playing with virtual servers yet. | |
| [04:51] <slestak> well, this is the guest that has -virtual | |
| [04:51] <slestak> not the host. both are ubuntu intrepid though | |
| [04:51] <centaur5> Oh wait, when I installed vbox on Gutsy to play around with it I had to download it directly from their site to install the .deb package and I never had a different kernel installed. | |
| [04:52] <slestak> the version from them is called peul, and has a couple of extra features. the one you get from apt is ose, and is "free-er" | |
| [04:52] <slestak> i liek the usb and shared folders in peul so i always get it | |
| [04:53] <centaur5> Well my friend told me vmware can easily do snapshots so you can restore easily if something goes wrong. I don't know the limitations on their free version. | |
| [04:53] <slestak> vbox does that too. | |
| [04:53] <slestak> and you can launch them headless | |
| [04:53] <slestak> from cli | |
| [04:54] <slestak> vmware is prob better (at the office) but for home use, i've made up my mind | |
| [04:55] <centaur5> The thing I can't decide is I want to play with ebox but I don't know if I should have the host be the ebox router or one of the virtual servers run ebox and configure every other virtual server to use the virtual ebox for routing. | |
| [04:56] <slestak> neat, havn't seen that | |
| [04:57] <slestak> any of the virt products will prob work. | |
| [04:58] <slestak> i would do the second, especially if you already have any of those services already running | |
| [04:58] <slestak> you can run the vm's on a private ip subnet | |
| [05:00] <centaur5> Are you running vbox command line or does it have that option or is your host using quite a few resources? | |
| [05:01] <slestak> you can run with gui visor or control vm from shell | |
| [05:02] <centaur5> I figured I should have the host use as little as possible since all the resources will be needed for the real work the vm's will do. | |
| [05:03] <slestak> thats where i think jeos comes in, 3 vms with 256m ram each can prob run on a decent modern machine. ebox server will likely need more | |
| [05:05] <centaur5> slestak: Have you played with ebox at all? I can't wait for them to add more services and features to the current services. | |
| [05:06] <slestak> i had never seen it till you mentioned it. is it j2ee? | |
| [05:07] <centaur5> perl for the backend I'm not sure about the web based front end. | |
| [05:07] <centaur5> I've never been very good at programming I just started studying Perl 2 months ago and not doing so well. Wondering if I should be doing Python. | |
| [05:07] <slestak> even if its slow for testing, wil prob work | |
| [05:09] <slestak> im trying to learn python | |
| [05:09] <centaur5> Are you using Intrepid with Gnome for your vbox host? | |
| [05:09] <slestak> yes | |
| [05:10] <centaur5> How long have you been working on Python? | |
| [05:10] <slestak> lightly maybe a year, but not much practical experience | |
| [05:12] <slestak> ive just found someone that is kinda mentoring me. gsve me commit perms on a trac plugin. try to fix some bugs | |
| [05:12] <centaur5> Well Perl is what ebox and a couple web apps that I use are written with so I would like to help with those. I hear Python is easier though and it seems to be everywhere I look now. | |
| [05:19] <slestak> thats kinda how pyhton has snuck up on me. between gentoo ports, trac, pytivo, and some other projects, i keep on running into it. | |
| [05:20] <centaur5> Hmm...perhaps I should get a book. | |
| [05:20] <centaur5> I've been thinking about it. | |
| [05:21] <slestak> i have a 4-5 volume set of perl books that i'd let go cheap :0) | |
| [05:21] <slestak> they are maybe 3 years old | |
| [05:21] <slestak> its the oreilly perl library | |
| [05:22] <centaur5> Oh, I was referring to getting a Python book. | |
| [05:22] <slestak> im not getting rid of any of them | |
| [05:22] <slestak> perl is too terse for me | |
| [05:22] <centaur5> I understand, I'm thinking that I probably won't cut it in Perl. | |
| [05:24] <slestak> wonder why subversion wants to install mysql? didnt think it used it... | |
| [05:25] <slestak> im sure you could learn it | |
| [05:25] <slestak> perl or python | |
| [05:28] <centaur5> Well I think Python would also be the better choice for doing a GUI since that is what a lot of people are using. | |
| [05:28] <slestak> yeah. pygtk | |
| [05:29] <slestak> i need to get some sleep. good luck w your project | |
| [05:29] <centaur5> Therefore, I should probably learn Python. | |
| [05:29] <centaur5> Thanks for the advice. | |
| [05:29] <slestak> both :) | |
| [05:30] <centaur5> g'night | |
| [05:38] <ShawnR> ok, i know you can restart a service, but what's the command to tell it that you updated the .conf and just need it to reload it? | |
| [05:38] <ShawnR> i can't remember | |
| [05:40] <ShawnR> is it reload? | |
| [05:43] <jmedina> ShawnR: it depends on the service | |
| [05:43] <jmedina> most of the time you can send a HUP signal | |
| [05:43] <jmedina> kill -HUP PID | |
| [05:43] <jmedina> some services have a reload option | |
| [05:44] <ShawnR> the HUP sounds familiar | |
| [05:44] <ShawnR> if you just do a restart, that's not the same? | |
| [05:44] <jmedina> but a HUP wont stop the service, only forces it to re-read the config file | |
| [05:44] <jmedina> a restart, stop and start again the service | |
| [05:46] <ShawnR> ok, then HUP is what i remember | |
| [05:46] <ShawnR> so it's a switch on the kill command? | |
| [05:46] <ShawnR> figured it woulda been in conjunction with the /etc/init.d/servicename HUP or something | |
| [05:49] <jmedina> debian uses start-stop-daemon in the init scripts | |
| [05:50] <jmedina> other distros o rc scripts sometimes uses killproc or kill -HUP `cat /var/run/service.pid` | |
| [05:50] <jmedina> something like that | |
| [06:00] <ShawnR> gotcha | |
| [06:03] <ShawnR> i've been without my music for the last few days (both RAM sticks went 100% bad at the same time).... i'm so glad ot hear my music again | |
| [06:34] <FFEMTcJ> im lookin for something to do on my server.. i dont touch any of the resources that it has available, so im looking for something to do with it | |
| [06:37] <ziroday> FFEMTcJ: you can seed torrents | |
| [06:37] <FFEMTcJ> ziroday: i setup rtorrent to do that | |
| [06:37] <FFEMTcJ> but it stops seeding | |
| [06:37] <FFEMTcJ> and icant figure out why | |
| [06:38] <ziroday> well I hardly use rtorrent, sorry | |
| [06:38] <FFEMTcJ> i was seeding 8.10 and now it stopped but i know there is more of a demand for it.. im tryin to figure out why it stops workin but havent found any help yet | |
| [06:40] <ziroday> FFEMTcJ: try asking in #rtorrent | |
| [06:40] <FFEMTcJ> i did.. noone seemed alive | |
| [06:41] <ziroday> FFEMTcJ: the official channel is #libtorrent on irc.worldforge.org, you can ask on their | |
| [06:42] <FFEMTcJ> ok.. ty | |
| [06:42] <ziroday> or just use a different torrent program | |
| [09:24] <scientes> what would be a minimal way to test the video capture card on my ubuntu-server? | |
| [09:29] <scientes> i installed xawtv on a server and it didnt work (it displays a vid capture stream) | |
| [09:32] <kraut> moin | |
| [09:38] <scientes> i was trying fbtv but it complains that there is no console font file | |
| [09:45] <scientes> http://pastie.org/305411 | |
| [13:00] <domas> Hi! Which filesystem for server should I chose? :) XFS is the only one that allows parallel O_DIRECT access, but seems to have some very evil performance regressions, JFS deadlocks with kswapd from time to time, ext3 seems to be slow for high r/w workloads, etc :( | |
| [13:01] <domas> ok, sorry, no trolling, getting back to work :( | |
| [13:18] <ScottK> domas: ext3 is the default because it's safe (safest). Unless that's not your first priority for filesystem features, I'd stick with that. | |
| [13:18] <domas> performance is | |
| [13:19] <domas> or, better definition, performance with powerful i/o subsystem and lots of parallel transactional load on top :) | |
| [13:19] <domas> I raised lots of eyebrows when I pointed out that O_DIRECT makes all file accesses serialized | |
| [13:20] <domas> on every filesystem out there, except one, which in one condition allows parallel one | |
| [13:21] <carbon_monoxide> Hi | |
| [13:22] <carbon_monoxide> I'm using Mono. Mono uses /usr/lib, but I'm using 64bit Hardy. How can I make Mono to use /usr/lib64? | |
| [13:22] <domas> carbon_monoxide: /usr/lib has 64-bit libs too | |
| [13:23] <carbon_monoxide> how about /usr/lib/libz.so? | |
| [13:23] <domas> and usr/lib64 is symlink to 'lib' | |
| [13:23] <carbon_monoxide> ah! | |
| [13:23] <Nafallo> drwxr-xr-x 176 root root 57344 2008-10-29 09:13 lib | |
| [13:23] <Nafallo> drwxr-xr-x 32 root root 36864 2008-10-27 08:19 lib32 | |
| [13:23] <Nafallo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2008-10-15 23:20 lib64 -> lib | |
| [13:24] <domas> if you want 32-bit libz, then install lib32z1 | |
| [13:24] <carbon_monoxide> no | |
| [13:24] <carbon_monoxide> i want 64-bit libz | |
| [13:24] <domas> then it will use the one it has | |
| [13:24] <domas> carbon_monoxide: Ubuntu installs 32bit libs to /usr/lib32/ | |
| [13:25] <Nafallo> /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3.3: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped | |
| [13:25] <Nafallo> file is handy :-) | |
| [13:25] <domas> indeed | |
| [13:25] <domas> Nafallo: unfortunately, when you lack 32-bit library support Ubuntu tells you nothing, just silently exits the program | |
| [13:25] <domas> Nafallo: I just had to figure out whole nuances of 32-bit support few days ago :) | |
| [13:26] <Nafallo> domas: sounds like a feature :-) | |
| [13:26] <carbon_monoxide> :( | |
| [13:26] <domas> thats why I am so smart now! | |
| [13:26] <domas> carbon_monoxide: by the way, did you install mono from Ubuntu packages? | |
| [13:26] <domas> carbon_monoxide: if yes, why do you have to care about libz? :) | |
| [13:26] <carbon_monoxide> Nafallo: feature LOL you regard Ubuntu | |
| [13:26] <Nafallo> carbon_monoxide: sorry. not sure what that meant. | |
| [13:27] <carbon_monoxide> i installed mono from Ubuntu repo | |
| [13:27] <domas> carbon_monoxide: so why are you looking for libz? :) | |
| [13:27] <carbon_monoxide> and afterwards i install newer release from a backport repo | |
| [13:28] <domas> then install libz backport too, if it wants different version | |
| [13:28] <domas> backporting is pain on whatever system you're running | |
| [13:28] <carbon_monoxide> domas: I'm running a game server emulator for my curious with Mono | |
| [13:28] <domas> it is better to backport source packages then | |
| [13:28] <domas> my private server for a long time has been FC3, I became backporting god :) | |
| [13:29] <carbon_monoxide> domas: i wanna downgrade my mono now | |
| [13:29] <carbon_monoxide> how can i use the mono package from ubuntu repo? | |
| [13:29] <domas> just remove whatever you have now, and use apt-get install whatevermonopackageyouneed | |
| [13:33] <carbon_monoxide> domas: removing package with apt-get is pain in the ass | |
| [13:33] <carbon_monoxide> domas: i should use aptitude :( | |
| [13:33] <carbon_monoxide> domas: it's too late | |
| [13:33] <Deeps> what advantage does using aptitude give over apt-get? | |
| [13:35] <ScottK> Deeps: It has more smarts about dependency resolution so it may be able to sort out complex dependeny relationships apt fails on. | |
| [13:36] <ScottK> My personal experience with it hasn't been good though. My preference is to let apt do it's best and sort the rest out myself. | |
| [13:36] <ScottK> YMMV. | |
| [13:37] <domas> just remove few packages | |
| [13:37] <domas> then do autoremove | |
| [13:37] <Deeps> ah, i was under the impression that all it did was autoremove installed dependancies when you removed the package that required them (That apt-get does now aswell) | |
| [13:37] <domas> easy :) | |
| [13:37] <ScottK> No. It knows how to look harder for depency problem resolution. | |
| [13:38] <ScottK> domas: More than just autoremove. | |
| [13:38] <ScottK> Personally I don't use it, but many people swear by it. | |
| [13:42] <domas> anyone has some secret very clever method how to do custom packages, but get them upgraded automatically whenever upstream has updates %) | |
| [13:42] <domas> there's too much manual labor involved in maintaining local package versions :( | |
| [13:43] <carbon_monoxide> i'm having horrible dependency problem now | |
| [13:52] <onkel2000> Good morning | |
| [13:52] <domas> morning! | |
| [13:54] <onkel2000> i want to install ubuntu server over the network, but i can't find a netboot img for the server | |
| [13:54] <domas> onkel2000: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ | |
| [13:54] <domas> (replace hardy with whatever you want) | |
| [13:54] <onkel2000> is that image not for the client? | |
| [13:55] <onkel2000> *desktop | |
| [13:55] <domas> ghm | |
| [13:55] <domas> I guess you can pass some configuration | |
| [13:56] <ScottK> domas: The best way is to get the packages into the Ubuntu repository and then maybe someone else does the update work for you. | |
| [13:57] <uvirtbot> New bug: #292130 in samba (main) "Copying from RISC OS to intrepid with Samba fails to close the remote file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/292130 | |
| [13:57] <domas> ScottK: nah, I want custom things, like... compiling imagemagick without threads support, or PHP have debug symbols, etc | |
| [13:57] <domas> ScottK: some small apache lingering hack | |
| [13:57] <ScottK> Oh. No secret trick then. | |
| [13:58] <domas> </3 reentrancy problems | |
| [13:59] <onkel2000> should i try to use this netboot image (i have a verry slow i-net connection) | |
| [14:00] <domas> there're two mandatory packages for a server: command-not-found and openssh-server | |
| [14:00] <domas> ;-) | |
| [14:01] <domas> everything else can be sorted out later | |
| [14:01] <onkel2000> ok thank you | |
| [14:42] <uvirtbot> New bug: #292150 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysql-server package installation returned error on 8.04 -> 8.10 kubuntu upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/292150 | |
| === yann2_ is now known as Yann2 | |
| [15:11] <uvirtbot> New bug: #291979 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package update-manager None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/update-manager.list] failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1), E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291979 | |
| [16:13] <carbon_monoxide> hi domas | |
| [16:13] <carbon_monoxide> i forgot the command you gave me to apt-get install libz32 | |
| [16:38] <carbon_monoxide> hi | |
| [16:38] <carbon_monoxide> i need libz.so 32 bit on my AMD64 system | |
| [16:40] <carbon_monoxide> can i simply obtain them with apt-get and have /usr/lib32 ? | |
| [16:42] <XiXaQ> didn't think you could use 32bit objects on 64bit os? | |
| [16:43] <carbon_monoxide> not sure | |
| [16:43] <carbon_monoxide> i have no knowledge on it | |
| [16:44] <carbon_monoxide> how can i check whether a specific lib is for 32bit or 64bit on my system? | |
| [16:47] <XiXaQ> well, if you're running a 64bit os, then it probably is 64bit and vice versa. What do you need it for? | |
| [16:55] <carbon_monoxide> i'm using mono to run a game emulator program in c# | |
| [16:56] <carbon_monoxide> the game emulator implemented 32bit libz compression library | |
| [17:06] <carbon_monoxide> i just need a 32 bit libz.so1.2.3+ for it | |
| [17:08] <Nafallo> XiXaQ: you can run 32-bit apps in a 64-bit userspace if you have the right libs/dependencies. | |
| [17:08] <carbon_monoxide> Nafallo: =] | |
| [17:09] <carbon_monoxide> for instance, playing ZSNES on 64bit Hardy | |
| [17:10] <Nafallo> wasn't NES 8-bit? /usr/lib8? | |
| [17:10] <Nafallo> ;-) | |
| [17:10] <carbon_monoxide> LOL | |
| [17:10] <XiXaQ> ;) | |
| [17:10] <carbon_monoxide> not sure | |
| [17:10] <Nafallo> I am. | |
| [17:11] <Nafallo> cause I had a SEGA, boosting double the amount of bits NES had :-) | |
| [17:11] <carbon_monoxide> but the emulator should be 32bit aye? | |
| [17:11] <Nafallo> ya | |
| [17:11] <Nafallo> or 64 | |
| [17:11] * Nafallo shrugs | |
| [17:12] <Nafallo> snes9express - GTK+ front-end for snes9x | |
| [17:12] <Nafallo> snes9x-x - X binaries for snes9x - Super NES Emulator | |
| [17:12] <Nafallo> seems to exist some 64-bit binaries. | |
| [17:12] <Nafallo> if not znes... | |
| [17:14] <carbon_monoxide> Nafallo: you got any idea about getting 32bit libs for 64bit Hardy? | |
| [17:37] <kees> carbon_monoxide: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs doesn't cover it? | |
| [17:38] <carbon_monoxide> thanks kees | |
| [17:38] <carbon_monoxide> how can i check whether ia32-libs contains what i need or not? | |
| [17:40] <kees> I'd just install it and do dpkg -L ia32-libs but then I have a full local mirror | |
| [17:40] <kees> clicking around on packages.ubuntu.com might work, there's a "files" link somewhere for each package | |
| [17:40] <Nafallo> lib32z1 I think | |
| [17:41] * kees doesn't tend to run much unpackaged software. :P | |
| [17:41] <Nafallo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/amd64/lib32z1/filelist | |
| [17:41] <carbon_monoxide> i need libz.so | |
| [17:41] <carbon_monoxide> woot! | |
| [17:41] <carbon_monoxide> thanks Nafallo! | |
| [17:43] <carbon_monoxide> then ia32-libs should include it | |
| [17:43] <Nafallo> depends on it. | |
| [17:46] <carbon_monoxide> after installing ia32-libs, it won't overrides my lib64, right? | |
| [17:46] <Nafallo> nope | |
| [17:47] <carbon_monoxide> great@! | |
| [17:47] <carbon_monoxide> that package makes life easier | |
| [18:35] <shai> hi there | |
| [18:36] <shai> I have to ubuntu 8.04 servers running vanilla setup. Both have samba installed and server our office of 25 XP machines. One server "userserver" has no problems at all. The other, "dataserver", has issues with solidworks parts files getting corrupted. I've narrowed it down. Any other file type regardless of size is ok. BUT when you transfer a .SLDPRT file to the dataserver the file is changed. I've verified this both wi | |
| [18:36] <shai> through further testing I've found other extenstions that also corrupt, so this doesn't seem to be solidworks specific | |
| [18:47] <domas> thats what irc logs are for.. | |
| [18:49] <shai> ??? | |
| [18:49] <shai> domas: was that at me? | |
| [18:51] <domas> shai: no | |
| [18:51] <domas> shai: the guy before came here asking for something I told him few hours ago | |
| [18:51] <domas> :) | |
| [18:59] <ralesk> hello all; I noticed in recent versions of Ubuntu (hardy, intrepid, maybe gutsy too) that on the console the bright colours all appear as dark grey, so I'm kinda unable to use mc or even a man because it's barely readable... | |
| [19:17] <ralesk> is any of you 120 people here at all? | |
| [19:17] <shai> yes | |
| [19:17] <shai> were all waiting for help :) | |
| [19:17] <domas> :) | |
| [19:17] <ralesk> heh :) | |
| [20:15] <domas> bah, Ubuntu mysql packages have security flaw :( | |
| [20:28] <domas> okie, reported to security@ | |
| === Ahmuck is now known as Eeyore-Jr | |
| [20:43] <bugfixes> hello all | |
| [20:51] <domas> hi! | |
| [22:01] <uvirtbot> New bug: #292364 in openldap (main) "slapd init.d file fails to set -f or -F" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/292364 | |
| === ralesk is now known as Ralesk | |
| [23:17] <photon> how do I have to change permissions of a script so that they run as root? I tried chown root:root script.sh && chmod +s script.sh, but I still have to type in the admin password | |
| [23:18] <ScottK> photon: That's a function of your permissions, not the scripts if you run it. | |
| [23:18] <photon> yea, that's what I'm asking for... " how do I have to change permissions" ? | |
| [23:19] <ScottK> You have to have admin access to run it as root so you have to type the password in. | |
| [23:20] <photon> I don't think that's entirely true. you can have setuid scripts, which should make this possible, but it does not work for me as intended. | |
| [23:56] <greenfly> generally speaking you want to avoid any setuid root scripts if at all possible | |
| [23:56] <greenfly> a better alternative is to allow a user to run it as root via sudo | |
| [23:57] <greenfly> you could even potentially set up sudo to run it without requiring a password be typed in. While that could open you up to a security hole depending on what the script does, at least sudo will log every time a user runs the script | |
| [23:59] <photon> okay, thanks | |