| [03:59] <wgrant> How can one delete pages on help.u.c/community? I really don't think we need instructions for Beryl or AIGLX on Edgy any more. | |
| [06:02] <Burgundavia> wgrant: the drop down allows you to do it | |
| [06:04] <wgrant> Burgundavia: Ah, right. It seems I'm unprivileged :( | |
| [06:14] <Burgundavia> wgrant: page linky? | |
| [06:15] <wgrant> Burgundavia: There's a whole set that probably needs to die, and there are others that have needed killing since Breezy. I'll find them. | |
| [06:16] <wgrant> Everything related to Xgl is dead, for example. | |
| [06:18] <wgrant> The AIGLX, Beryl and Xgl pages on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/blah should be dead. | |
| [06:19] <Burgundavia> is there a common page to redirect them to? | |
| [06:19] <wgrant> Some of them already redirect to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion | |
| [06:19] <Burgundavia> you can redirect the rest | |
| [06:20] <wgrant> I really think they should cease to exist rather than redirect, but sure. | |
| [06:20] <wgrant> They just pollute listings now. | |
| [06:23] <wgrant> Aha. | |
| [06:23] <wgrant> I see some pages are disappearing. | |
| [06:23] <wgrant> Thanks. | |
| [06:42] <wgrant> Burgundavia: Oh yeah, and some Automatix pages slipped in... there's nowhere sane to redirect them to. | |
| [06:42] <Burgundavia> ah giant page about automatix beingevil? | |
| [06:42] <Flannel> heh, about *matix, since now we have "ultamatix" too. | |
| [06:43] <wgrant> Shudder | |
| [06:43] <wgrant> I thought Ultimate Edition would go away. | |
| [06:43] <Flannel> wgrant: We all did | |
| [06:43] <wgrant> But no, once it had Ubuntu removed from its name by Canonical it branched out into Ultamatix. | |
| [06:44] <Flannel> Oh, wgrant, if you're doing cleanup, do you mind figuring out whats going on with the fonts page? Some guy moved it to w.u.c and made the h.u.c/comm page redirect. Sort of odd. I haven't had time to figure out how to contact him (no email, hasn't been on IRC for a while, etc) | |
| [06:44] <Flannel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto | |
| [06:45] <wgrant> Blink. | |
| [06:45] <wgrant> Moved *to* w.u.c? | |
| [06:45] <Flannel> yeah. odd. | |
| [06:46] <wgrant> Ahh. I was wondering how one was meant to do cross-wiki redirects. | |
| [07:08] * Madpilot googles for ultamatix's homepage and feels braincells die from the badness of the English here. Oy. | |
| [07:08] * Madpilot realizes his carefully tweaked XChat will not, in fact, LET him spell "the" as T E H, even for comic effect. Meh. | |
| [07:11] <wgrant> Madpilot: Do you like its home page? | |
| [07:11] <wgrant> It is, IIRC, the one with all the silver gradients. | |
| [07:11] <wgrant> And it's completely impossible to read, both because of the bad theme and because of the non-ENglish. | |
| [07:12] <Madpilot> meant "there" when I said "here" in my line above, actually | |
| [07:12] <wgrant> Maybe that was Ultimate Edition. | |
| [07:12] <wgrant> But it's the same person. | |
| [07:12] <Madpilot> http://ultamatix.com/ <-- this awfullness? | |
| [07:12] <Burgundavia> teh | |
| [07:12] <Burgundavia> teh | |
| [07:12] <Burgundavia> teh | |
| [07:12] <wgrant> I was thinking of http://ultimateedition.info/ | |
| [07:12] <wgrant> But they replaced the theme. | |
| [07:13] <Burgundavia> so they make money off their ads I see | |
| [07:13] <wgrant> "This release was built from scratch using Ubuntu Hardy Heron LTS" | |
| [07:13] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, at some point I tweaked Xchat's autoreplace to correct "the". | |
| [07:13] <wgrant> I see. | |
| [07:13] <Burgundavia> ahh | |
| [07:13] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: I was just being dumb | |
| [07:17] <wgrant> Hmm, does ultamatix's website really just state that it's valid CSS and not HTML, or has my connection died? That is mildly amusing. | |
| [07:42] <Burgundavia> wow,there is some seriously old cruft on my system | |
| [07:42] <Burgundavia> something to do with dpkg-divert stuff in breezy | |
| [07:44] <Madpilot> you back on your desktop, or is this laptop cruft? | |
| [07:45] <Burgundavia> desktop | |
| [07:45] <Burgundavia> using Audrey's wonderful huge screen | |
| [07:47] <wgrant> Burgundavia: A couple of my systems got a good cleaning after their Intrepid upgrade; they'd come all the way from Warty. | |
| [07:47] <wgrant> I was amazed at how much cruft there was. | |
| [07:47] <Burgundavia> I am trying to nuke fglrx | |
| [07:47] <Burgundavia> am getting an error looking for an so in X11R6 | |
| [07:48] <wgrant> Hmm, I had fglrx leave that around on one of those. | |
| [07:51] <Burgundavia> had to touch and create a bunch of dirs for it not to fail | |
| [07:51] <Burgundavia> very annoy9ing | |
| [07:51] <Burgundavia> anybody got a fresh intrepid system? | |
| [07:51] <Burgundavia> bkac in a falsh, rebooting to see if this takes | |
| [07:51] <Burgundavia> if it doesn',t I won't be back for a bit as I fix my X | |
| [08:13] <Madpilot> I did a clean install for Hardy, was amazed at how much cruft from Breezy onward had accumulated in the old install... | |
| [08:31] <wgrant> It's particularly fun with my laptop, because I always run the development series from a couple of weeks in and do other really nasty things to my system. | |
| [08:31] <wgrant> After a couple of releases it becomes rather bad. | |
| [08:41] <Burgundavia> I guess I should upgrade to intrepid | |
| [08:42] <wgrant> Burgundavia: It'll be a bit slow. | |
| [08:42] <wgrant> I'll upgrade to jaunty next weekend. | |
| [08:44] <Burgundavia> it probably will be | |
| [08:44] <wgrant> a.u.c is absolutely hammered. | |
| [08:45] <wgrant> It seems to be so hammered that it can't even properly sync from the internal mirrors. | |
| [08:45] <Burgundavia> 610 kb/s? | |
| [08:46] <wgrant> Really? | |
| [08:46] <Burgundavia> yep | |
| [08:46] <wgrant> It was hard to connect to 12 hours ago. | |
| [08:46] <Burgundavia> I am maxing out my connection | |
| [08:47] <wgrant> Using some mirror, then? | |
| [08:47] <Burgundavia> I have no idea | |
| [08:47] <Burgundavia> likely not, given .ca redirects to a.u.c | |
| [08:47] <wgrant> Hmm. | |
| [09:09] <Burgundavia> still getting 610ish | |
| [09:10] <mdke> wgrant: in future if no one happens to be around, the way to mark a page for deletion is described on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag | |
| [09:11] <mdke> wgrant: it's not open to everyone to delet pages because of issues with breaking links, described on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/DeletingAndRenaming | |
| [09:13] <wgrant> mdke: Thanks. Of course, it shouldn't be open to everybody, but it's probably a bit more restricted than it needs to be... | |
| [09:14] * Burgundavia realized he forgot to check one or two of those pages... | |
| [09:17] <mdke> wgrant: what's your alternative idea? | |
| [09:18] <Burgundavia> when was compiz enabled by default for the first time? | |
| [09:18] <mdke> I can't remember | |
| [09:18] <mdke> maybe 7.10 or so? | |
| [09:19] <wgrant> I think it was Gutsy. | |
| [09:19] <wgrant> It's possible it was Feisty. | |
| [09:20] <wgrant> mdke: I'm not sure what a better solution for the deletion privilege is... but it seems a bit odd that not even ~ubuntu-dev has it. | |
| [09:21] <Burgundavia> 7.04 according to DesktopEffects | |
| [09:21] <wgrant> compiz was in main for Feisty. | |
| [09:21] <wgrant> So I presume feisty. | |
| [09:21] <mdke> wgrant: well, there is no reason for the people in ~ubuntu-dev to know anything about how the documentation wiki works | |
| [09:21] <wgrant> Ah, beat me. | |
| [09:22] <wgrant> mdke: I fail to see how there's anything special to know, and I see the restriction as more of a defense against people being malicious or stupid. | |
| [09:23] <mdke> wgrant: it's described on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/DeletingAndRenaming. You don't have to be malicious *or* stupid to forget to check for broken links (see Burgundavia above) | |
| [09:23] <mdke> :p @ Burgundavia | |
| [09:24] <wgrant> Perhaps. | |
| [09:24] <Burgundavia> idiocy is all you need ;) | |
| [09:24] <mdke> or just not having read that page for a while | |
| [09:24] <mdke> or ever, in the case of most members of ~ubuntu-dev | |
| [09:24] <wgrant> Heh. | |
| [09:25] <Burgundavia> what does KDE use for desktop effects? | |
| [09:25] <Burgundavia> kwin or compiz? | |
| [09:25] <wgrant> kwin | |
| [09:25] <Burgundavia> ahh, right | |
| === Gwaihir__ is now known as Gwaihir | |
| [09:28] <Burgundavia> wgrant: redirect GNOME/customize to UbuntuEyeCandy? | |
| [09:29] <wgrant> I trimmed some stuff out of the latter this afternoon. | |
| [09:29] <wgrant> Let me see. | |
| [09:30] <wgrant> I'd say so. | |
| [09:30] <wgrant> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gnome/FAQ is very worthy. | |
| [09:34] <Burgundavia> cool | |
| [09:34] <Burgundavia> that needs to die | |
| [09:35] <wgrant> Yes. | |
| [09:35] <wgrant> You know that a wiki page is bad when it mentions XF86Config-4 | |
| [09:36] <Burgundavia> heh | |
| [09:36] <Burgundavia> welcome to the 21st century please | |
| [09:36] <Burgundavia> ok, I need to sleep | |
| [09:36] <Burgundavia> night all | |
| [09:37] <wgrant> Night Burgundavia. | |
| [09:37] <wgrant> Thanks. | |
| [09:37] <Burgundavia> if you want anything else deleted, pm me with the url | |
| [09:37] <Burgundavia> I will be online while the system upgrades | |
| [09:41] <mdke> night Burgundavia | |
| [11:19] <Burgundavia> ugh, intrepid's ephy performance is worse than hardys | |
| [14:02] <LjL> how can i see a list of wiki pages i edited or created? | |
| [16:01] <moteyibex> I wondered how to report a bad link in a man page. I.E. sed documentation man:sed has a bad link. | |
| [20:25] <mdke> LjL: it can't be done, afaik | |