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[02:26] <calc> is there somewhere to reassign package foo bugs? |
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[02:26] <calc> i have several assigned to openoffice.org, heh |
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[02:26] <calc> er to package program foo i mean |
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[02:26] <calc> something like RFP for debian |
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[02:44] <saivann> bdmurray : Concerning bug 270777, did you try with different artists? Perhaps that the bug you hit is only with a specific filename? Also, if you want, I built latest rhythmbox trunk so you can test it, in my PPA : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/saivann/ubuntu intrepid main |
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[02:44] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 270777 in rhythmbox "[SRU] unable to copy music from an MTP device" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270777 |
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[03:43] <bdmurray> saivann: sweet, I'll test that out |
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[03:52] <saivann> bdmurray : Thanks :) |
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[04:49] <calc> oh hell |
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[04:49] <calc> i think i found something that makes my triaging a pita |
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[04:49] <calc> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bugs?orderby=-datecreated&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status_upstream=hide_upstream |
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[04:49] <calc> that hides all bugs that have any kind of upstream status (or seems to) |
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[04:49] <calc> even if the upstream status is 'invalid' |
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[04:50] <calc> add to that there is no way to delete an upstream tag in general and it makes triaging bugs competently very hard |
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[04:59] <Hobbsee> actually, there might be. |
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[05:00] <Hobbsee> i thought the same about nominations, but it turns out there is |
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[05:05] <calc> Hobbsee: how is that? |
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[05:05] <calc> Hobbsee: er how do you delete nominations? |
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[05:06] <calc> hell even if it was only exposed via api i would write something to let me do that, i have lots of bugs with bad tasks on thm |
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[05:16] <calc> my wife managed to get on the 'cover' of her favorite online magazine, heh :) |
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[05:16] <calc> she just sent me the link |
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[05:21] <Hobbsee> calc: don't remember, but it was mentioned on u-d-a |
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[05:24] <calc> remember the subject ? :) |
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[05:24] <calc> i can't seem to find it |
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[05:25] <calc> oh i think i see it |
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[05:25] <calc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RCBugTargetting#Untargeting%20bugs |
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[05:26] <calc> you just set it to 'won't fix' |
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[08:14] <LimCore> how well does kde work in 8.10? because week before 8.10 come out, most kde was not present, so I wonder is 8.10 amd64 good yet for production server+desktop |
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[09:28] <Burgundavia> LimCore: #kubuntu might be a better bet to ask that |
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[11:35] <ben2talk> quiet room :o everyone busy with this one? >>>This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ theme engine '' is not installed. |
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[12:22] <AnAnt> Hello, I think that initrd image (in Intrepid) did not start console-setup script, is there a way I can verify that ? and to which package should I submit a bug report ? |
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[12:22] <AnAnt> s/did not/does not/ |
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[12:51] <pjbroad> hello, is this the right place to ask about an "Answers" status change? |
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[12:54] <pjbroad> well, if anyone returns who can edit "Answers" status. Please can you change Question #49351 to "Needs information". I pressed the wrong button. Thanks |
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[12:56] <rio> any ideas on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/44976? |
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[12:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 44976 in linux-source-2.6.15 "hdaps module does not work with the Thinkpad X60s (dup-of: 33950)" [Medium,Invalid] |
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[12:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 33950 in linux-source-2.6.17 "hdaps Y axis inverted" [Medium,Fix released] |
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[12:57] <rio> err wrong link |
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[12:57] <rio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/274510 |
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[12:57] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 274510 in linux "hdaps doesn't load on thinkpad t60 while tp_smapi loaded. where is hdaps_ec?" [Undecided,New] |
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[13:00] <azimout> pjboard: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/49351 has been corrected to "info request" |
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[13:13] <ben2talk> any ideas about theming problems arising from 8.04 to 8.10 upgrading? |
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[13:13] <xteejx> Hi guys, sorry to be a pain but can someone have a look at bug 287244 please? I've tried giving as much detail on the failed boot as possible and typed up the dump/trace just before the kernel panic. Does anything else need to go onto it, and if so what does it need and how do I go about getting it? I hate Vista...well Microsoft full-stop and am an avid Ubuntu lover and want it on this laptop its not even 2 weeks old it's a shame i |
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[13:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 |
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[13:14] <azimout> rio: i've posted a comment to you bug |
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[13:17] <xteejx> Also how do I go about helping on the bug day on the 4th? Will I need a Ubuntu installation as that's looking unlikely lol Is there any other way I can participate at all? |
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[13:18] <rio> azimout: i read it, but since theres no hdaps_ec, i think the hdaps module is the one shipped with tp_smapi, but i'm not sure |
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[13:24] <azimout> xteejx: i pasted a comment in your bug report |
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[13:25] <xteejx> Question for anyone who can answer...how do I disable Atheros wifi drivers completely during boot-up on the live cd, I believe it might be the main reason my laptop isn't working, its an Atheros AR5007 |
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[13:25] <xteejx> thanks azimout |
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[13:27] <azimout> rio: i have no experience with thinkpads, this is just what i found through google |
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[13:28] <xteejx> azimout: Have replied on the bug sorry for the confusion |
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[13:28] <azimout> it seemed to me that tp_smapi includes the functionality of hdaps |
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[13:33] <rio> azimout: okay |
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[13:34] <ben2talk> Question: ubuntu 8.10 liveCD can install themes (with errors) but the installations cannot. What is wrong with the user account? |
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[13:36] <azimout> ben2talk: please file a bug report under (probably) the package gnome-control-center, describing your problem with as much detail as possible |
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[13:37] <xteejx> Question: How do I blacklist Atheros AR5007 on bootup on live cd to see if that is the problem with bootup please? |
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[13:39] <xteejx> i think the module is ath_pci |
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[13:40] <rrittenhouse> xteejx: I've never done it but maybe add it to /etc/modprobe/blacklist ? |
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[13:41] <xteejx> rrittenhouse: I doubt I'll be able to do that on a live CD :( My laptop won't boot past the usplash screen I'm not sure how to disable the bugger in kernel boot options on livecd :( |
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[13:41] <rrittenhouse> oooh. Yeah that's a problem ;) |
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[13:41] <xteejx> lol just a bit :) |
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[13:42] <xteejx> It's annoying its the first REAL problem I've had and its MY bloody laptop only 2 weeks old :'( |
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[13:42] <rrittenhouse> ah, that sucks :( |
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[13:42] <xteejx> Tell me about it :( |
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[13:42] <rrittenhouse> What error are you getting? |
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[13:42] <xteejx> Errr its in bug 287244 a lot of crap kernel panic messages |
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[13:42] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 |
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[13:44] <rrittenhouse> xteejx: so your just trying to boot the livecd? You don't have it installed on the drive? |
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[13:45] <xteejx> Nope can't even get to the point where I CAN install it unfortunately it panics 30 seconds after the usplash screen with all them errors, i *think* its the Atheros driver but I don't know how to disable it to see if its the problem |
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[13:45] <rrittenhouse> have you tried the alternative cd? |
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[13:46] <xteejx> to be honest yes but i forgot what error it came up with lol |
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[13:46] <xteejx> it qwasnt the same |
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[13:47] <rrittenhouse> lol ok. |
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[13:47] <azimout> xteejx: try with 8.10 final, they moved ath5k to linux-backports-modules |
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[13:47] <xteejx> similar problem though, but if i remember correctly it couldn't find the cd for some reason and i burned 3 different copies at 3 different speeds |
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[13:48] <rrittenhouse> Ah. I assumed he was using 8.10 final =/ Oops |
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[13:48] <azimout> to avoid burning all these cds, try unetbootin and a flash disk |
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[13:48] <xteejx> 8.10 final? you mean the main available one to download? |
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[13:48] <rrittenhouse> as of thursday 8.10 came out |
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[13:48] <azimout> yes, instead of 8.10 beta |
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[13:48] <rrittenhouse> yeah |
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[13:48] <xteejx> thats what i'm using - downloaded it yesterday |
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[13:49] <azimout> ok |
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[13:49] <xteejx> what about a daily iso would that make a difference? |
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[13:49] <azimout> on your bug report you were talking about beta |
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[13:49] <xteejx> yeah i know but i put an update section thing at the bottom explaining it still happens in final |
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[13:50] <azimout> sorry, just saw it :-$ |
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[13:50] <xteejx> lol :) |
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[13:50] <xteejx> I know its a bit messed up but i kept trying different things an updating and adding to the botom of it |
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[13:52] <azimout> you say you found talk about it on other forums. it would help if you pasted the links in the bug in a comment |
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[13:52] <xteejx> note: I don't have a flash drive to be able to use unetbootin but have about 10 cdr's left so its ok for now |
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[13:52] <xteejx> sure |
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[13:53] <xteejx> azimout: done |
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[13:54] <xteejx> i just found a boot option on that same forum page will try it in a minute: brokenmodules=ath5k |
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[13:55] <rrittenhouse> I saw that; they were talking about it being for a different distro but it couldnt hurt for you to try it |
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[13:58] <xteejx> exactly :) will let you know how it goes - fingers crossed |
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[13:59] <rrittenhouse> ok gl :D |
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[14:55] <rio> no progess with hdaps :( |
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[15:21] <xteejx> No luck unfortunately, tried kernel boot options brokenmodules=ath_pci also ath_hal and also blacklist=ath_pci and ath_hal but nothing seems to be working |
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[15:22] <xteejx> this time though the kernel panic showed a few lines about wake and some other gunf...but still no boot :( |
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[15:27] <xteejx> bug 287244 : Updated |
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[15:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 |
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[15:46] <pwnguin> is there a purpose to marking duplicate bugs invalid? |
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[16:00] <biki[1]> hi |
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[16:01] <biki[1]> does anyone know if there is any patch that enables wireless network in 8.10 ? |
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[16:02] <biki[1]> i mean fixes |
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[16:04] <biki[1]> ahh fuck that |
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[16:07] <AnAnt> Hello, I think that initrd image (in Intrepid) does not start console-setup script, is there a way I can verify that ? and to which package should I submit a bug report ? |
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[16:18] <xteejx> Bug 287244 has been updated and now has a screenshot of the kernel panic error if it helps solve the problem. Thanks guys |
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[16:18] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 |
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[16:21] <xteejx> If any more info is needed or anything needs to be done with the above please let me know and I will try to sort it out ASAP, I'm sick of M$ and want my beloved Ubuntu back :( |
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[16:38] <xteejx> Can someone have a look at bug 287244 please as I believe it may be due to the same problems shown in bug 278823. |
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[16:38] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 |
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[16:38] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278823 in linux-meta "Atheros 5007 wireless still doesn't work in intrepid beta????" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278823 |
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[16:46] <xteejx> Anyone available to take a look at 287244 at all as this isn't just a problem with Ubuntu but almost ALL linux distros and it *seems* to e affecting quite a few people. I'd really appreciate any insight into the problem and am OK with giving any more details that are needed. |
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[18:23] <savvas> hm.. anyone here? |
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[18:24] <savvas> I try to link a bug with a debian one: u'Package gip not published in Debian' |
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[18:25] <savvas> I guess it's a launchpad-edge bug (?) |
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[18:29] <crimsun> maco: RE 291379, it's still a bug in pa (gconf-side). pa completely ignores asoundrcs. |
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[18:30] <crimsun> maco: I.e., it's intentional (by design) that pa completely ignores asoundrcs; the bug is that gconf parsing is still buggered. |
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[18:32] <AnAnt> Hello, I think that initrd image (in Intrepid) does not start console-setup script, is there a way I can verify that ? and to which package should I submit a bug report ? |
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[18:52] <xteejx> Question for anyone that can help: What does it mean when I get a kernel panic and it says it isn't syncing and to run the problem through mcelog --ascii and contact my hardware vendor? My laptop isn't even 2 weeks old it can't be a hardware problem. |
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[18:53] <crimsun> it certainly /can/ be a hardware issue, but I would attempt to reproduce the symptom across a number of different live cds |
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[18:54] <xteejx> I have managed to do it other 2-3 burns of 8.04 and 8.04.1 and although Intrepid doesn't give the same error message the kernel still panics at the same point it seems : at the ath_pci bit |
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[18:54] <xteejx> It's all in relation to bug 287244. I still can't seem to get anywhere with it :( |
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[18:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 |
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[18:58] <xteejx> It's REALLY frustrating, its the first *REAL* problem I've had, other times at least its booted even on other laptops and things were fixable, but I'm stumped with my OWN laptop - typical - fix other peoples and can't even get my own to work!! lol |
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[19:02] <savvas> hehe :) |
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[19:02] <xteejx> Its not funny savvas lol :) |
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[19:03] <savvas> sorry, wouldn't want to be in your position |
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[19:03] <xteejx> me neither .... oh well bit late now :P |
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[19:03] <savvas> but you must admit it is kind of ironic :p |
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[19:04] <savvas> have you tried with other distributions? |
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[19:04] <xteejx> yeah it is...the one person that fixes god knows how many M$ machines for mates and does the odd bug-hunt for ubuntu gets lumbered with a £400 laptop that doesn't bloody work lol |
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[19:04] <xteejx> Yeah other distros exact same problem :( |
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[19:05] <xteejx> although apparently opensuse 11.0 is *meant* to work but i don't want to waste a dvd on something i won't use |
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[19:05] <savvas> hm... alternate install? |
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[19:05] <savvas> ah but wait, kernel panic, should be the same there too |
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[19:05] <xteejx> yup unfortunately |
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[19:06] <savvas> can you paste or type the exact error? maybe we can dig up something |
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[19:06] <xteejx> its all in bug 287244 - there's plenty of output crap on it trust me lol |
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[19:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 |
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[19:06] <savvas> woops, I'll have a look |
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[19:07] <xteejx> lol thx savvas :) |
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[19:07] <xteejx> brb |
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[19:23] <savvas> xteejx: have you tried booting the live cd using boot options? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions |
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[19:25] <savvas> brokenmodules=ath5k is mentioned in the forum thread you posted at the bug report |
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[19:26] <savvas> hm.. it might just work |
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[19:26] <ogra> ath5k is disabled in the final release |
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[19:26] <ogra> by default |
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[19:26] <savvas> argh |
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[19:26] <ogra> a properly working ath5k is in the linux-backports-modules package |
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[19:27] <ogra> well .... s/properly/more proper/ |
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[19:27] <savvas> brokenmodules=ath_pci then? heh |
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[19:27] <xteejx> back |
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[19:28] <xteejx> savvas: I can try it I suppose, which one intrepid or hardy.1? |
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[19:28] <ogra> ath_pci should work |
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[19:28] <savvas> xteejx: intrepid |
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[19:28] <xteejx> Its my bug guys so if you want me to try something I'm open to suggestions |
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[19:29] <savvas> ogra: is ath9k also disabled by default? |
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[19:29] <xteejx> savvas: OK will reboot now and try it with brokenmodules=ath_pci removing splash and quiet |
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[19:29] <ogra> savvas, nope, that should work better than madwifi |
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[19:29] <savvas> go go go :) |
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[19:29] <xteejx> can I not use a wildcard like brokenmodules=ath* ? |
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[19:29] <ogra> for ath5k cards madwifi should work fine |
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[19:29] <ogra> (i.e. ath_pci) |
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[19:30] <xteejx> trying it now brb guys :) and ps thanks a LOT for helping :) |
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[19:37] <savvas> imagine now "everything works, but I have no internet" hehe |
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[19:50] <xteejx> Hey guys, tried kernel boot option brokenmodules=ath_pci still no luck |
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[19:50] <xteejx> Will update bug report with photo of the error |
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[19:52] <savvas> darn |
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[19:52] <xteejx> Bug 287244 updated to show the above for those that were helping |
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[19:52] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 |
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[19:52] <xteejx> savvas: I know. |
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[19:54] <xteejx> There's a photo of the new error on the bug report if it helps? |
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[19:58] <savvas> xteejx: brb |
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[19:58] <xteejx> Any ideas or suggestions? |
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[19:58] <xteejx> savvas: Sure :) |
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[19:58] <angusthefuzz> xteejx: can you disable the hardware in the bios? |
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[19:59] <xteejx> Unfortuantely not its an HP/Compaq laptop, they like to lock BIOS options out for the regular 'dumb' users lol |
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[19:59] <angusthefuzz> xteejx: can you destroy the hardware with a soldering iron? |
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[20:00] <savvas> lol |
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[20:00] <xteejx> lol if you buy me a new laptop sure :) lol |
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[20:00] <savvas> hm.. |
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[20:00] <savvas> xteejx: do you know your bios version? |
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[20:00] <xteejx> errrrrrrrrrrrrr................ |
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[20:01] <xteejx> nope - doubt a bios update will make a difference...and laptop is just 2 weeks old - HP like to lock out every option anyway |
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[20:02] <angusthefuzz> xteejx: does the laptop have a hardware switch? |
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[20:02] <savvas> http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7051&postcount=13 |
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[20:02] <xteejx> as in?? |
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[20:02] <CarlFK1> I have an Atheros AR242x (is it really X, or does no one know exactly what the 4th digit is? hp.com just says "802.11b/g WLAN" |
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[20:03] <xteejx> it means AR242 series the nunber at end probably doesnt make a difference as the one series will all use same driver |
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[20:04] <CarlFK1> xteejx: I can believe that, but still wondering what exact card I have |
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[20:04] <xteejx> That forum post - the guy has different laptop mine is a CQ50-110EM |
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[20:04] <xteejx> have you tried lspci ? |
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[20:04] <CarlFK1> lspci = AR242x |
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[20:04] <xteejx> oops :) |
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[20:05] <xteejx> CarlFK1: What does Vista report it as? Should show in that unless you formatted completely |
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[20:06] <CarlFK1> it's dual boot, but I am not sure I have ever gone though the 'welcome do vista' stuff |
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[20:07] <CarlFK1> lspci -n 168c:001c |
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[20:07] <xteejx> ahh that helps |
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[20:07] <xteejx> let me google it hehe |
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[20:08] <xteejx> Apparently Carl it comes under the AR5006 series not 242x |
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[20:08] <xteejx> let me guess....driver problems? |
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[20:08] <CarlFK1> yep |
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[20:09] <angusthefuzz> xteejx: can you boot without pci? pci=off |
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[20:09] <savvas> xteejx: have you tried nosata option? |
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[20:09] <CarlFK1> [ 123.251121] wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13) |
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[20:09] <xteejx> no pci? will that be safe with AC power etc? and nosata? |
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[20:10] <savvas> xteejx: looks like you'll have to play a bit with the bootoptions from the wiki link |
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[20:10] <xteejx> what will it install to if there's no hard drive lol |
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[20:10] <savvas> xteejx: correct, but at least then we'll know where the problem is |
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[20:10] <xteejx> what link is that savvas? |
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[20:10] <savvas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions |
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[20:10] <xteejx> wicked!! :) |
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[20:10] <xteejx> I'll write every single one down and reboot about 50 times narrow the bugger down lol |
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[20:11] <savvas> cool :) |
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[20:11] <savvas> oh.. |
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[20:11] <savvas> try this one too: skipsata |
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[20:11] <savvas> I don't know if it works, just suggesting from a google search :p |
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[20:12] <xteejx> Carl: In regards to your problem you may want to have a look on Launchpad.net there's quite a few problems with the madwifi drivers and atheros cards - I'm in the same category it seems, if you cant find anything file a bug report if you haven't already but good luck!! |
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[20:12] <xteejx> lol OK savvas cool mate I'll try all that at least 1 is bound to work :) |
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[20:16] <savvas> hope so! |
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[20:18] <xteejx> here goes.... ps thank you again!!!! |
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[20:19] <ogra> err, why didnt he just uninstall linux-restricted-modules ? |
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[20:20] <savvas> he couldn't boot to a live cd ogra :) |
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[20:20] <ogra> ah, right |
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[20:20] <savvas> one cup of coffee coming up! |
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[20:20] <ogra> well, he could used knoppix, chrooted into his install and uninstall it that way |
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[20:21] <ogra> or any other liveCD that doesnt use madwifi |
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[20:21] <ogra> or the hardy liveCD if that worked |
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[20:21] <savvas> if it is the wifi |
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[20:22] <savvas> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19196482/C%3A\Users\Teej\Desktop\DSC01194.JPG |
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[20:22] <ogra> well, the opps is ath_pci apparently |
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[20:31] <CarlFK1> ogra: should I install linux-backports-modules? I have Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg - dmesg: wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13) |
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[20:34] <CarlFK1> is there any reason I shuouldn't try it? |
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[20:34] <ogra> CarlFK, try it out ... its only an apt-get to remove it gain if it doesnt work |
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[20:34] <CarlFK1> heh - E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules |
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[20:35] <CarlFK1> intrepid-backports .... |
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[20:37] <ogra> if he would have stayed a minute longer i could have told him to look for linux-backports-modules-intrepid |
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[20:37] <ogra> if he would have stayed a minute longer i could have told him to look for linux-backports-modules-intrepid |
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[20:37] <ogra> :P |
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[20:37] <ogra> or linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic |
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[20:39] <CarlFK1> got it |
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[20:39] <CarlFK1> thanks |
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[20:42] <savvas> grr I just had a memory blackout, I forgot what I wanted to recommend! :P |
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[20:43] <CarlFK1> ill be off for a few hours - if it has to do with me, tell CarlFK :) |
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[20:44] <CarlFK1> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic - thanks all |
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[20:52] <asac> anyone wants to help a bit on NM or firefox New bug processing? |
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[20:52] <asac> :) |
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[20:52] <asac> i can write you python scripts for the most common cases :-P |
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[20:52] <savvas> er.. I have network manager bug :p |
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[20:53] <asac> savvas: triage 20 new bugs and i will look ;) |
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[20:53] <asac> :-P |
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[20:53] <asac> there are only 257 New bugs ;) |
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[20:53] <savvas> yoinks |
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[20:53] <asac> so i just need 10 folks processing 20 :) |
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[20:54] <savvas> I'll try and have a look right now :) |
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[20:54] <asac> firefox has 630 NEW ;) |
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[20:54] <savvas> no thanks haha |
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[20:54] <ogra> asac, what drives you to work on a sat. evening ? |
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[20:54] <savvas> you need minions for that :) |
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[20:54] <asac> ogra: bugpain |
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[20:54] <asac> ogra: i am trying to reach 20k ;) |
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[20:54] <ogra> poor guy |
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[20:55] <asac> ogra: i want to clear this mess in the next weeks |
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[20:55] <asac> and then officially resign |
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[20:55] <ogra> resign ?!? |
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[20:55] <asac> ogra: resign from bug processing ;) |
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[20:55] <ogra> ah |
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[20:55] <ogra> phew |
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[20:56] <ogra> you just shocked me |
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[20:56] <asac> i actually already resigned 3 month ago |
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[20:56] <asac> and now all is lost ;) |
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[20:56] <asac> or 6 month ago? |
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[20:56] <asac> i cant remember when i tried to seriously process bugs |
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[20:56] <asac> except the last 2 weeks |
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[20:56] <ogra> libflassupport ago :) |
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[20:57] <asac> ogra: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/karma.png ;) |
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[20:57] <ogra> geez |
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[20:57] <asac> ogra: those 5k is only hard bug work ... really :) |
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[20:57] <asac> but the bug count didnt change considerably |
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[20:58] <asac> i think i got ffox down from 1500 to 1200 open bugs ;) ... and NM from 600+ to 450 |
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[20:58] <ogra> still a lot |
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[20:58] <asac> 21:57 < asac> but the bug count didnt change considerably |
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[20:58] <asac> ^^ |
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[20:58] <asac> ;) |
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[20:59] <asac> thats why i will resign ;) |
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[20:59] <asac> QA should do that |
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[20:59] <asac> only look at triaged bugs |
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[20:59] <asac> that would be a joy |
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[21:00] <asac> ogra: the point is that launchpad is completely unusable for packages with more than lets say 500+ bugs |
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[21:00] <ogra> yeah |
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[21:00] <asac> ogra: you wont find duplicates even though you know exactly that you read more than one buga bout that |
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[21:01] <ogra> is bugzilla better for that ? |
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[21:01] <asac> ogra: well. it allows you to categorize bugs by component |
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[21:02] <asac> so when you know where to search you will find it |
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[21:02] <asac> also most components still have a comprehensible bug list |
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[21:02] <asac> (event though they might be 500+ each) |
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[21:02] <asac> and you can search full text on everything |
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[21:02] <asac> and assemble your own boolean searches |
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[21:02] <asac> so yeah |
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[21:02] <asac> i think so |
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[21:02] <ogra> hrm |
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[21:03] <asac> i think i would need to split up firefox in modules |
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[21:03] <asac> and reassign them so each component has a tiny bug list |
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[21:03] <asac> thats why gnome works so much better |
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[21:03] <asac> except than a few big bug packages |
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[21:03] <ogra> yup |
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[21:03] <asac> its easy to move bugs to the right package and there you will easily see dupes |
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[21:03] <ogra> yeah, gpm is one |
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[21:03] <asac> and also those crashes |
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[21:04] <asac> i cannot even search for "-apport-crash" tag |
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[21:04] <asac> that would allow me to just ignore them ;) |
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[21:05] <asac> ogra: i think gpm is similar to NM ... lots of bugs from unqualified reporters that have no clue what their bug is and post to whatever they think is their bug |
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[21:05] <asac> making it impossible to evaluate anything |
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[21:05] <ogra> yep |
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[21:05] <asac> you ask a question ... 2 days later you get an answer from someone completely unrelated ... then you forget to look whether he is the original reporter |
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[21:05] <asac> and the bug drifts away |
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[21:05] <ogra> i'm really happy i got rid of it |
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[21:06] <ogra> same with gss |
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[21:06] <ogra> you get all the x bugs |
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[21:06] <asac> ogra: but reassigning to other packages at least givse good karma ;) |
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[21:06] <ogra> heh, yeah |
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[21:07] <asac> i think there are currently 4 hot WPA enterprise issues floating in NM bug tracking ... and people cross post like hell ... initial reporters have different issues, but now its just one big mess |
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[21:07] <ogra> bah |
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[21:07] <asac> whenever you close a bug someone says, no this isnt fixed ... i still see my problem |
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[21:08] <asac> "what is your problem?" |
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[21:08] <asac> "yeah THIS!" |
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[21:08] <asac> "THIS isnt related, open a new bug" |
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[21:08] <ogra> sigh |
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[21:08] <asac> "NO THIS is related, otherwise not so many others would post here" |
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[21:09] <asac> ... "I see the same too, NM doesnt work anymore" |
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[21:10] <asac> or |
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[21:10] <asac> "can you please provide a), b), c)" |
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[21:10] <asac> -> "I already said that my wireless is not working, this worked well in dapper" |
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[21:10] <ogra> heh |
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[21:11] * savvas hides :p |
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[21:12] <ogra> have you seen bug 290918 ? |
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[21:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 290918 in bash "user's 'bin' PATH isn't exported" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290918 |
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[21:13] <savvas> I wonder if I should open a new bug about network manager not showing the icon in notification area.. it doesn't create any problems, well except from editing connections |
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[21:14] <asac> ogra: well. at least he is more a technical guy |
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[21:14] <asac> but yeah ;) |
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[21:15] <asac> ok off for some relaxing |
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[21:15] * ogra goes cooking |
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[21:16] <savvas> asac: did you come accross any bugs with "No internet connections defined" when nm-applet is run and no icon? |
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[21:18] <maco> asac: jeez, sounds like you're describing sound bugs |
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[21:19] <maco> asac: crimsun posted a sort of "everybody out of the pool" comment to one the other day because it had turned into a "something doesn't work with sound" listing every possible symptom from 50 different people bug |
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[21:20] <maco> he told them he would only respond to the reporter on that bug and that everyone else should file their own bugs |
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[21:24] <savvas> how do we poke developers to check fixes/workarounds? |
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[21:25] <savvas> Bug #283316: |
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[21:25] <savvas> This report is public |
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[21:25] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 283316 in ubuntu-release-notes "opening /dev/scdN causes tray to be closed" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283316 |
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[21:25] <savvas> woops |
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[21:25] <savvas> thanks bot :p |
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[21:50] <rrittenhouse> Is it a common problem with Totem not converting %3F's in a URL to a '?' ? |
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[21:57] <xteejx> savvas: No luck, but will update bug report in a minute with all my findings from each of the 15 boot options results lol |
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[21:58] <savvas> xteejx: ogra suggested using knoppix to try and boot from it, they said it doesn't have madwifi drivers |
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[21:58] <savvas> or at least that's how I understoof it :p |
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[21:59] <savvas> *understood |
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[21:59] <xteejx> Oh right? To prove that its the madwifi drivers that are causing the problem? I don't plan to use Knoppi as a replacement for Ubuntu though, and surely I'll still have the same problem if I try to install Ubuntu? |
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[22:05] <savvas> no idea seriously, but you can install ubuntu from there |
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[22:05] <savvas> using chroot (no idea heh) |
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[22:09] <xteejx> ermmmm lol ok well i'm downloading knoppix now we'll see how it goes if my laptop doesn't blow up spontaneously lol :) |
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[22:09] <savvas> xteejx: what I'm afraid is that even if you manage to install it, you'll have to remove ubuntu's linux-restricted-modules package |
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[22:09] <savvas> (before booting in the installed kernel that is) |
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[22:09] <xteejx> shit won't that remove a lot of other drivers like nvidia drivers etc? |
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[22:10] <savvas> bingo :p |
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[22:10] <xteejx> excuse the language sorry am forgetting where i am :) |
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[22:10] <savvas> that is, i think so |
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[22:10] <xteejx> hmmmm not the greatest scenario... |
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[22:11] <savvas> if you manage to install ubuntu, the new DKMS the kernel uses can install the driver from nvidia-177-kernel-source |
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[22:11] <xteejx> is there any forum or something i can use as a reference for how to install ubuntu from chroot within knoppix? |
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[22:11] <xteejx> ermmmmm ok now your losing me savvas lol |
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[22:12] <savvas> I'm definitely not the person to ask about this :) |
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[22:12] <savvas> try at www.ubuntuforums.org or at http://answers.launchpad.net - maybe someone has attempted this |
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[22:12] <xteejx> lol its kool i appreciate the help as it is to be honest - more info on the bug report is normally a good thing right? |
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[22:12] <xteejx> I'll try that :) |
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[22:13] <savvas> oh, if you manage to boot from knoppix |
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[22:13] <savvas> post the reply of this command to the bug report: lspci -nnv |
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[22:13] <savvas> it will give extensive information about your pci devices |
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[22:14] <xteejx> 2 n's? |
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[22:14] <xteejx> will do i'm writing all this down anyway :P |
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[22:16] <savvas> yes :) |
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[22:19] <xteejx> I still got 30 mins on the Knoppix download anyway but will burn and try it then and stick it on the report, and the lspci -nnv thing with a bit of luck :) |
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[23:20] <xteejx> ogra: Bug 287244. I downloaded, burned and tried Knoppix as you suggested because of the Madwifi drivers, but it didn't work, I have updated the bug report to show this. |
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[23:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 287244 in ubuntu "[intrepid] Compaq Presario CQ50 cannot install/boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/287244 |
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[23:45] <xteejx> savvas: If you're here...tried what you suggested on the report, still nothing :( |
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