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[01:11] <calc> just realized i only have about 25 non triaged non incomplete bugs |
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[01:11] <calc> out of 526 :) |
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[01:50] <hggdh> persia, ping |
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[02:10] <Hammonjj> hi everyone |
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[02:11] <Hammonjj> i'm a cs student looking to get involved with bug fixing. i was wondering if anyone knew of a resource i cold contact |
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[02:11] <Hammonjj> could*** |
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[02:16] <hggdh> well, he was fast... fast in and fast out |
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[04:30] <techno_freak> NetworkManager has totaly screwed up in the latest update, it doesn't even run dhclient when booting up and even if I restart NM manually, the applet still shows no wired connections activated |
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[04:47] <Juanelone> ubunti 8.10 woohooo |
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[06:34] <thekorn> good morning |
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[06:35] <maco> hiya |
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[06:45] <dholbach> good morning |
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[06:47] <thekorn> good morning dholbach |
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[06:47] <dholbach> hi thekorn |
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[06:52] <maco> hi dholbach |
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[06:52] <dholbach> hi maco |
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[06:53] <maco> so, for QA stuff, laserjock and i were talking about our utter lack of unit tests. so i started a set of wiki pages to write up test cases for us to do manually. they can eventually be turned into automated ones, i suppose, but at least we'll have the specs for when that time comes |
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[06:53] <maco> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApplicationTesting |
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[06:57] <maco> if anyone wants to help write up things that need to be tested repeatedly during unstable to ensure a minimal set of functionality...feel free |
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[06:59] <maco> tjaalton: about the joysticks...if they wont be evdev, how will they be handled? |
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[07:00] <tjaalton> maco: just like before |
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[07:00] <tjaalton> ie. games work |
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[07:01] <tjaalton> if you want to use them as pointer devices, wait for the patch to hal that mjg59 posted |
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[07:01] <tjaalton> then x-x-i-joystick only needs to check for input.joystick devices, not the product id |
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[07:02] <maco> tjaalton: do you need to set them up in xorg.conf? |
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[07:02] <tjaalton> maco: with those updates, no |
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[07:02] <maco> tjaalton: awesome! will update post |
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[07:02] <maco> tjaalton: wacom's still screwed though, right? |
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[07:02] <tjaalton> I'm not sure if the hal patch will be SRU'd, but hope so |
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[07:03] <tjaalton> maco: yes, you can only initialize the device with one set of parameters when using input-hotplug |
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[07:03] <tjaalton> so the driver needs some love |
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[07:04] <maco> tjaalton: updated version ok? |
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[07:06] <tjaalton> YABC, a sec |
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[07:07] <maco> yabc? |
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[07:07] <tjaalton> yet-another-browser-crash |
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[07:07] <tjaalton> just invented it myself ;) |
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[07:08] <maco> gotcha |
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[07:09] <tjaalton> maco: yep, looks fine |
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[07:09] <maco> kk thanks |
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[10:30] <niadh> I know this is probably gonna be a pain, but I've just got up, intending to upgrade ubuntu while I am out today, any reason why upgrade manager ain't showing the update option? |
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[10:30] <RAOF> 'cause it's not released yet? Also, probably better asked on #ubuntu+1, I'd wager :) |
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[10:31] <niadh> Was under the impression it's out today |
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[10:31] <niadh> Of course it doesn't mean 9AM today |
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[10:31] <niadh> Just wondered |
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[10:32] <Hew> niadh: Watch #ubuntu+1. It's not out yet, but should be out some time today. |
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[10:32] <RAOF> Yeah. It'll be out sometime today, barring huge last minute problems. |
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[10:32] <Hew> niadh: Also #ubuntu-release-party |
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[11:15] <BUGabundo_work> asac: ping |
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[11:16] <Bodsda> morning |
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[11:16] <BUGabundo_work> good morning |
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[11:17] <asac> BUGabundo_work: hey ;) |
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[11:17] <Bodsda> downloading intrepid rc atm -- 8.04 is running really slow for me so i think its time for some spring cleaning |
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[11:17] <asac> BUGabundo_work: got my messages? |
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[11:17] <BUGabundo_work> not yet |
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[11:17] <asac> BUGabundo_work: look in mail + bug ;) |
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[11:17] <BUGabundo_work> I publish one of my passwords online! |
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[11:18] <asac> BUGabundo_work: he? |
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[11:18] <BUGabundo_work> took most of the morning to change my old passwords |
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[11:18] <asac> BUGabundo_work: oh :) |
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[11:18] <BUGabundo_work> and now I'm in meetings |
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[11:18] <BUGabundo_work> didn't even had time to turn laptop on |
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[11:18] <asac> BUGabundo_work: yeah. ok anyway ... PPA version should work. |
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[11:18] <asac> BUGabundo_work: i gave hints how to workaround without that patch in bug |
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[11:18] * BUGabundo_work opens ubuntu mailbox |
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[11:19] <asac> s/PPA version/new PPA version/ |
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[11:21] * BUGabundo_work laptop booting |
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[11:42] <BUGabundo_work> is anyone getting "floating point exception" on skype 64bits? |
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[11:48] <BUGabundo_work> asac: sorry to say, but VPN still won't work after the update! |
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[11:48] <BUGabundo_work> do I need to reboot? |
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[11:49] <asac> BUGabundo_work: depends |
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[11:49] <asac> BUGabundo_work: which -pptp version do you have installed now? |
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[11:50] <asac> BUGabundo_work: does the workaround work for you? |
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[11:50] <asac> for me stuff works now |
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[11:50] <BUGabundo_work> PPA version of course |
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[11:51] <asac> BUGabundo_work: which ;)? |
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[11:51] <BUGabundo_work> haven't read it yet |
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[11:51] <BUGabundo_work> brb |
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[11:51] <BUGabundo_work> user probs |
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[11:54] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache show network-manager-pptp |
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[11:54] <BUGabundo> Architecture: amd64 |
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[11:54] <BUGabundo> Version: 0.7~~svn20081015t024626-0ubuntu2~nm2 |
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[11:54] <asac> BUGabundo_work: works for me |
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[11:55] <asac> i am currently connected |
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[11:55] <asac> BUGabundo_work: i had to select MPPE |
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[11:55] <asac> thats all |
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[11:55] <BUGabundo_work> I have it on |
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[11:55] <asac> and dont use password |
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[11:55] <asac> because that doesnt work |
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[11:55] <asac> BUGabundo_work: dump your connection |
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[11:55] <asac> create a new one |
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[11:55] <asac> most likely you tweaked something else |
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[11:55] <BUGabundo_work> 1st thing I did |
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[11:56] <BUGabundo_work> the ballon won't even show up... |
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[11:56] <BUGabundo_work> it desapears in less then half a sec |
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[11:56] <asac> which balloon? |
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[11:56] <BUGabundo> the FAILED connection |
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[11:56] <asac> well. i think you have other issues then. what error do you get in syslog now? |
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[11:57] <BUGabundo_work> just tested to a 2nd vpn and it also failed! |
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[11:57] <BUGabundo> let me tail it |
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[11:58] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64567/ |
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[11:58] <BUGabundo_work> nothing there! |
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[11:59] <asac> BUGabundo_work: you should really get to a clean state |
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[11:59] <BUGabundo_work> ok |
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[11:59] <asac> wipe keyring stuff |
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[11:59] <asac> and such |
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[11:59] <BUGabundo_work> what do I need? |
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[11:59] <asac> you need to have a new password dialog triggered |
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[11:59] <asac> not sure |
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[11:59] <BUGabundo_work> rm /etc ? |
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[12:00] <BUGabundo_work> ROFL |
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[12:00] <asac> i dont know |
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[12:00] <asac> really |
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[12:00] <BUGabundo_work> apt-get remove --purge nm * |
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[12:00] <asac> no |
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[12:00] <asac> you need to remove your keyring stuff |
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[12:00] <asac> open seahorse |
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[12:00] <asac> and remove stuff from there |
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[12:00] <asac> all passwords and things |
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[12:00] <asac> and also dont fill the password in the connection editor |
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[12:00] <BUGabundo_work> ok |
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[12:00] <BUGabundo_work> the ONLY key there as been removed |
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[12:01] <asac> well |
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[12:01] <asac> then ensure that you dont have a password in the connection |
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[12:01] <asac> at best dump it again |
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[12:01] <BUGabundo_work> deleting VPNs and doing new ones |
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[12:01] <BUGabundo_work> wait.. |
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[12:01] <BUGabundo_work> I'm going to boot livecd |
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[12:01] <asac> just fill in username gateway and no passord |
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[12:01] <BUGabundo_work> and test from there |
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[12:01] <asac> BUGabundo_work: no need to |
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[12:01] <BUGabundo> no ? |
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[12:01] <asac> you just need get back to a state you always had yesterday |
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[12:01] <asac> i am sure you can figure that out |
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[12:02] <asac> i mean that you get asked for password and such |
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[12:02] <asac> and that there is actually a connect attempt in the log |
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[12:02] <asac> the package certainly didnt change anything in this regard |
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[12:02] <BUGabundo_work> no need for domain?? |
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[12:02] <BUGabundo_work> I'm entereing it! |
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[12:02] <asac> BUGabundo_work: yes domain is ok |
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[12:02] <asac> BUGabundo_work: if you read bug/mail you see how you can encode that in the username though |
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[12:02] <BUGabundo_work> CAPS or lower case? |
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[12:03] <asac> ... which allows you to use it without the ppa package |
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[12:03] <asac> BUGabundo_work: domain? here its caps |
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[12:03] * BUGabundo checks LP bugmil |
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[12:03] <BUGabundo> windows uses it as CAPS |
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[12:03] <asac> BUGabundo_work: i think it even works here without a domain ;) |
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[12:04] <BUGabundo_work> does it escape passwords correctly? |
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[12:04] <asac> what do i know |
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[12:04] * BUGabundo connetcing |
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[12:04] <asac> my password was simple enough |
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[12:04] * BUGabundo VPN Connection Failed |
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[12:04] <asac> that error is unimportant |
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[12:04] <asac> you need to get the ssylog as always |
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[12:05] <BUGabundo> LCP terminated by peer (;'w^I^@<M-Mt^@^@^BM-f) |
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[12:05] <BUGabundo> I guess this is it now |
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[12:05] <asac> BUGabundo_work: yeah. .. thats MPPE |
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[12:05] <asac> BUGabundo_work: yeah |
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[12:05] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64569/ |
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[12:05] <asac> enable MPPE ... at least that made it work here |
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[12:06] * BUGabundo makes MPPE on... forgot last time |
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[12:06] <asac> BUGabundo_work: cool. also i just verified. at least my account works without domain :) |
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[12:06] <asac> but also with domain or with domain encoded in username |
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[12:06] <asac> e.g. DOMAIN\username or username@DOMAIN |
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[12:08] <BUGabundo_work> yeah |
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[12:08] <BUGabundo_work> it should work |
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[12:08] <BUGabundo_work> hey... my messages didn't came |
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[12:08] <BUGabundo_work> IT WORKSSSSS |
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[12:08] <asac> cool ;) |
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[12:08] <asac> BUGabundo_work: so passwords get properly encoded |
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[12:08] <asac> gtk |
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[12:09] <asac> BUGabundo_work: now please test WPA-Enterprise ;) |
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[12:09] <asac> i think the problem with the password in the settings directly needs to be dealt too |
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[12:09] <BUGabundo_work> not there! |
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[12:09] <asac> but i can figure that ;) |
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[12:09] <BUGabundo_work> only tonight when I get to Universaty |
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[12:09] <BUGabundo_work> can we make MPPE on by default? |
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[12:10] <asac> BUGabundo_work: not sure :/ |
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[12:10] <asac> i mean technically for sure |
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[12:10] <asac> not sure what is wanted |
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[12:10] <BUGabundo_work> 2nd vpn is failing |
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[12:11] <asac> BUGabundo_work: which error? |
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[12:11] <BUGabundo_work> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64573 |
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[12:12] <asac> BUGabundo_work: but it succeeds first right? |
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[12:12] <asac> i mean it gets ip an all |
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[12:12] * BUGabundo hates when VPNs disconect IRC |
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[12:12] <BUGabundo> diff VPNs |
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[12:12] <BUGabundo> not the company anymore |
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[12:12] <BUGabundo> its the univ VPN now |
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[12:12] <BUGabundo> I think I can talk to the admin to get you an account too |
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[12:13] <asac> BUGabundo_work: maybe try options first |
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[12:13] <BUGabundo> MPPE disabled |
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[12:13] <BUGabundo> why did it got disable? |
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[12:13] <asac> BUGabundo_work: you definitly connected and got an IP |
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[12:13] <BUGabundo> nm-pptp-service-4519 warn[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:331]: short read (-1): Message too long |
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[12:13] <asac> BUGabundo_work: yeah. thats most likely the reason why its disconnecting |
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[12:13] <asac> the MPPE disabled stuff is most likely just output when shutting down |
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[12:15] <asac> BUGabundo_work: is the gateway and stuff correct? |
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[12:15] <asac> looks a bit "simple" :) |
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[12:16] * BUGabundo_work checking |
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[12:16] * BUGabundo asking the Univ network admin for VPN logs |
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[12:17] <asac> also a bit strange that the second DNS comes from a complete different net: |
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[12:17] <asac> 192.168.62.8 <-> 10.0.0.1 |
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[12:17] <BUGabundo_work> VPN is now on! |
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[12:18] <BUGabundo_work> tried a mirror server |
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[12:18] <asac> ok. so bogus vpn server |
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[12:18] <asac> BUGabundo_work: please talk to admin |
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[12:18] <BUGabundo_work> talking |
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[12:18] <asac> and figure out if its a misconfiguration and if it is figure out if windows users are affected or if they have more magic |
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[12:19] <BUGabundo_work> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64576 Success |
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[12:19] <asac> BUGabundo_work: yay ;) |
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[12:19] <asac> good stuff |
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[12:19] <asac> BUGabundo_work: do you remember how the domain/username encoding looks like in a windows login box? |
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[12:19] <asac> BUGabundo_work: is it like DOMAIN\user ... or DOMAIN\\user ? |
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[12:20] <asac> i think i saw that once ... but thats years ago :( |
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[12:20] <BUGabundo_work> retested inicial server and it failed again |
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[12:20] <BUGabundo_work> its a server setting I guess |
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[12:21] <BUGabundo_work> mirror server works |
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[12:21] <BUGabundo_work> but requires MPPE |
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[12:21] <BUGabundo_work> DOMAIN\user single slash on windows |
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[12:21] <asac> BUGabundo_work: so the other doesnt require MPPE? |
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[12:21] <BUGabundo_work> user@DOMAIN also valid |
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[12:21] <asac> BUGabundo_work: try to disable it then (though i guess thats obvious to test ;)) |
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[12:21] <asac> BUGabundo_work: ok cool |
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[12:21] <asac> thanks |
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[12:21] <asac> (domain encoding) |
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[12:21] <asac> BUGabundo_work: yes know that @ is the modern way |
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[12:22] * BUGabundo_work testing all 3 servers without MPPE |
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[12:22] <asac> but most likely it will never be THE standard way ... as always ;) |
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[12:22] <asac> BUGabundo_work: i think the first already failed right? |
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[12:22] <asac> oh sorry |
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[12:22] * asac confuses work/school |
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[12:23] <BUGabundo> School server 1 with MPPE fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/64580/ |
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[12:23] <asac> BUGabundo_work: yeah thats the bogus address stuff |
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[12:23] <asac> we need admin input on whats special and if that server works at all on windows |
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[12:23] <asac> BUGabundo_work: or doese it work without MPPE? |
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[12:24] <BUGabundo> School server 1 withOUT MPPE fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/64581 |
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[12:24] <asac> oh that server at least tells that MPPE is required |
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[12:24] <BUGabundo> School server mirror withOUT MPPE fail |
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[12:24] <asac> your work server just continues |
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[12:25] <BUGabundo_work> got a time out now |
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[12:25] <BUGabundo_work> on the mirror |
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[12:26] <BUGabundo> School server mirror WITH MPPE timeout http://paste.ubuntu.com/64583/ |
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[12:27] <asac> BUGabundo_work: which server worked before? |
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[12:27] <BUGabundo_work> that one |
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[12:27] <asac> BUGabundo_work: try again |
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[12:27] <BUGabundo_work> msvpn1.dei.... |
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[12:27] <BUGabundo_work> and now it Simply Worked |
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[12:28] <asac> BUGabundo_work: ok. try a few times ... with and without disconnecting first |
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[12:28] <BUGabundo> School server mirror WITH MPPE Success http://paste.ubuntu.com/64585/ |
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[12:28] <BUGabundo_work> School server mirror WITH MPPE SUCESS http://paste.ubuntu.com/64585 |
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[12:29] <BUGabundo_work> humm I'm lagging!!! lol missed that on IRC |
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[12:29] <BUGabundo_work> the admin is offline now! not sure if he went to check this stuff |
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[12:29] <BUGabundo> ubottu: ping |
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[12:29] <ubottu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore |
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[12:30] <asac> BUGabundo_work: well ... i think the failure might also been have due to the server |
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[12:30] <asac> BUGabundo_work: you should try multiple times to get a better feeling about the fail ratio |
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[12:30] <BUGabundo_work> at least I know have 2 working servers |
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[12:30] <asac> BUGabundo_work: so you have 3 servers in school |
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[12:30] <BUGabundo_work> tonigh I'll teste the VPN over open WiFi |
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[12:31] <BUGabundo_work> and test EDUROAM |
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[12:31] <BUGabundo_work> no asac |
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[12:31] <BUGabundo_work> 2 vpn server at school |
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[12:31] <BUGabundo_work> plus one at work |
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[12:31] <BUGabundo_work> I know I'm babbling all over the place |
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[12:31] <BUGabundo_work> making it hard for you to follow |
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[12:32] <BUGabundo_work> now we have a post release update to do |
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[12:33] <BUGabundo_work> asac: admin is back |
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[12:33] <BUGabundo_work> trying to get him to look at the server |
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[12:33] <asac> BUGabundo_work: ok |
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[12:33] <asac> BUGabundo_work: anyway. even the current package works if you encode the domain in the username |
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[12:34] * BUGabundo finally some time to look at backlog emails! |
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[12:34] <asac> and dont use the domain field in NM |
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[12:34] <BUGabundo_work> LOL |
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[12:34] <BUGabundo_work> release notes maybe? |
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[12:34] <asac> not sure. the vpn plugins should be more important, but they are not on CD |
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[12:34] <asac> and not even in main |
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[12:35] <BUGabundo_work> but people upgrading |
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[12:35] <asac> we will get the update in asap. that should be good enough i think |
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[12:35] <BUGabundo_work> will get a non working VPN |
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[12:35] <BUGabundo_work> that might leave some users without ANY chance to fix |
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[12:38] <snap-l> Did anyone else receive a security update today? |
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[12:38] <asac> BUGabundo_work: well. the notes are all done and so ;) |
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[12:38] <asac> snap-l: whats the problem? |
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[12:39] <BUGabundo_work> I did snap-l |
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[12:39] <snap-l> I'm not seeing any notes for what the issue was. |
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[12:39] <snap-l> More curious than anything |
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[12:42] <asac> snap-l: not sure. look http://www.ubuntu.com/usn |
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[12:43] <asac> most likely you got one of the more recent ones then |
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[12:43] <jdstrand> snap-l: it is expected. base-files needed an update before intrepid was released, so no USN. it went through -security because of the extrememly late hour in the release process |
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[12:43] <asac> jdstrand: thanks for helping out ;) |
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[12:44] <snap-l> jdstrand: Thanks for the clarification. :) |
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[12:44] <jdstrand> np |
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[13:20] <asac> BUGabundo_work: could you post a syslog that shows the authentication error to the bug? |
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[13:20] <asac> at best replace the description |
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[13:21] <asac> BUGabundo_work: if oyu want you can open a new bug for the MPPE by default thing |
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[13:21] <asac> and point the other reports in the bug to that one (as some appear to have been struck by that too) |
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[13:34] <BUGabundo_work> asac: it could be great if we made a poll, and ask users on that bug to vote if it worked best with or without MPPE |
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[13:37] <asac> BUGabundo_work: well. bugs attract a highly biased user base :) |
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[13:38] <Bit_Breaker> hello all |
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[13:39] <Bit_Breaker> i was wondering if the images provided here, can be crafted to work in VBox |
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[13:39] <Bit_Breaker> http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ |
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[13:39] <BUGabundo_work> asac: (13:02:56) André: |
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[13:39] <BUGabundo_work> Embora os dois serviços (msvpn e msvpn1) sejam semelhantes, têm algumas diferenças entre eles, por exemplo o msvpn1 suporta MPPC e também chaves statefull. |
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[13:39] <BUGabundo_work> the admin says both machines are similar |
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[13:40] <Bit_Breaker> they are a part of this wikihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase |
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[13:40] <asac> Bit_Breaker: wouldnt think so. you could ask QA folks if they have prepared vbox images |
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[13:40] <BUGabundo_work> but mirror server as MPPC and statefull keys |
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[13:40] <Bit_Breaker> asac: ok who would that be? QA that is . |
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[13:41] <asac> Bit_Breaker: maybe ask on #ubuntu-testing .... but i think to remember that thats on their todo list. so most likely there are no vbox images yet |
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[13:42] <CaPriCoRN^80> persia: hi |
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[13:42] <CaPriCoRN^80> i have read the documentation |
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[13:43] <CaPriCoRN^80> i tried to report a bug related to 8.04 |
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[13:43] <CaPriCoRN^80> but didnt get any response |
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[13:43] <BUGabundo_work> asac: you got me lost now! |
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[13:44] <BUGabundo_work> what bug log do you mean I should post to the bug?? |
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[13:44] <asac> BUGabundo_work: no. reproduce the bug log that leads to the AUTHETNTICATION failure |
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[13:44] <asac> that wone with the =691 code |
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[13:44] <asac> BUGabundo_work: if you still have it somewhere just use that :) |
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[13:45] <Bit_Breaker> asac: thanks |
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[13:46] <BUGabundo_work> ill have to look for IRC logs and get the pastebin of it |
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[13:46] <Bit_Breaker> asac: how can i help make images for Vbox |
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[13:46] <BUGabundo_work> or my console logs... even maybe by grepping my syslog |
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[13:46] <BUGabundo_work> I never delete them |
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[13:46] <asac> Bit_Breaker: ask folks on #ubuntu-testing. they are the one to coordinate that imo. at best wait a day to make release dust settle there |
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[13:46] <asac> Bit_Breaker: they are most likely still busy |
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[13:46] <Bit_Breaker> ok |
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[14:31] <seb128> mvo: should bug #290921 stays open as an ubuntu bug if you opened a rt about it? |
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[14:31] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 290921 in ubuntu "archive.ubuntu.com config prevents caching" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290921 |
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[14:33] <bddebian> Boo |
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[14:33] <mvo> seb128: I have no idea, it feels like it should given that its not resolved yet |
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[14:33] <mvo> but I don't have a strong opinion on it |
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[14:33] <seb128> mvo: that's not an ubuntu bug though, it has been moved to a rt which seems to correct media no? |
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[14:34] <mvo> ok, fine with me to close it "notforus" :) |
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[14:34] * mvo thinks we need more close states |
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[14:34] <seb128> I don't really care but that's the sort of bugs which stay open for ever |
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[14:34] <seb128> that seems noise |
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[14:35] <mvo> I included the bugnumer in the ticket in the hope that RT would close it |
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[14:35] <mvo> but yeah, we might as well close it now that its forwarded |
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[14:37] <Ohmu_> I got a bug in gnome-ppp. The init-string fields start at 2, not 1 (zero would be ok by me...), and they eat whatever values you put in them. Next time you bring up the box, the values are reset. |
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[16:19] <joaopinto> anyone ever found this error: nslookup: parse of /etc/resolv.conf failed ? |
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[16:20] <joaopinto> my resolv.conf is a mixed result from networkmanager and the AT&T VPN client |
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[16:20] <joaopinto> and it looks fine to me :P |
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[17:13] <afflux> we had some issues with -386 packages being installed around gutsy or so, didn't we? |
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[17:13] <afflux> anyone happen to have the report at hand? |
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[18:37] <psusi> so what do you do with a bug report that has been filed in a language you do not understand? |
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[18:38] <bdmurray> psusi: do you have any idea what language it is? |
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[18:38] <psusi> looks like it might be german |
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[18:39] <bdmurray> I think we have some people who know german here |
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[18:40] <bdmurray> I hate to just close the bug report as the person is making an effort to help out |
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[18:40] <thekorn> psusi, can you give me the bug number |
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[18:40] <psusi> yea, bug #175329 |
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[18:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 175329 in dmraid "dmraid lies sich nicht installieren oder aktualisieren" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175329 |
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[18:41] <thekorn> psusi, yes germen, let me have a look |
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[18:41] <psusi> well, the report is also a year old so... maybe I should just close it for being old and ask them to change it back to new if they are still around... |
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[18:44] <thekorn> hmm, its about updating this package in 7.10, I think I'll close this bug and ask him to reopen if this is still a problem |
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[18:44] <psusi> sounds good to me |
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[18:44] <psusi> thanks |
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[18:44] <bdmurray> thekorn: could you also mention bug reports are more likely to get attention if reported in English? |
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[18:44] <thekorn> yes, will do |
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[18:45] <bdmurray> Thanks! |
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[19:51] <asac> bdmurray: you really want to keep non-native bugs open? |
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[19:52] <asac> bdmurray: i mean then we should do that officially and try to get a "bug" translator team up ;) |
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[19:52] <asac> i usually just close stuff |
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[19:52] <bdmurray> asac: yeah, I think having a bug translation team would be a good idea |
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[19:54] <asac> well. for me requiring a proxy isnt that promissing ;) |
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[19:54] <asac> translation team would be at least more-responsive than the average bug triager ;) |
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[19:54] <asac> otherwise they would probably be a bottle neck |
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[21:27] <hamza> hi , i have a problem with playing video w |
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[21:27] <hamza> anyone here ?! |
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[21:28] <maco> yes, but if it's a help request, that goes in #ubuntu |
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[21:28] <maco> this channel's mostly for triaging |
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[21:34] <BUGabundo> asac: ping |
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[21:35] <asac> BUGabundo: ? |
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[21:35] <BUGabundo> hi |
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[21:35] <BUGabundo> just uploaded a log to 272185 |
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[21:35] <BUGabundo> updating now to nm4 |
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[21:35] <BUGabundo> and trying the new timeout |
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[21:36] <asac> BUGabundo: do you get the timeout error? |
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[21:36] <maco> oh oh where's the server team (i think?) so they can freak about contentless-pings? |
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[21:36] <BUGabundo> with nm3 yes |
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[21:36] <maco> ^_^ |
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[21:36] <asac> BUGabundo: right |
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[21:36] <asac> BUGabundo: yeah give it a try .... buts ridiculous already |
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[21:36] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64815/ |
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[21:37] <BUGabundo> I'm now 3mts from the AP |
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[21:37] <BUGabundo> of course RADIUS servers here suck... |
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[21:37] <asac> BUGabundo: well. go ahead |
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[21:37] <asac> let me know if this thing succeeds after ages ;) |
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[21:37] <BUGabundo> I also failed to connect to another AP with out encription |
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[21:37] <BUGabundo> and noticed that if I ran sudo dhclient wlan2 I would get connected |
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[21:37] <asac> thats something different most likely |
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[21:38] <asac> BUGabundo: thats a driver bug then most likely |
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[21:38] <asac> or maybe wpasupplicant in a bad state after broken EAP attempts |
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[21:39] * BUGabundo hopes PPA download speed is better then Main and mirrors |
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[21:39] <BUGabundo> I've seen mirrors with 70 system load |
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[21:39] <BUGabundo> its crazy!!! |
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[21:39] <ogra> the whole datacenter suffers on release day :) |
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[21:39] <BUGabundo> I know |
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[21:39] <asac> sounds warm ;) |
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[21:39] <BUGabundo> I track a mirror here! |
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[21:39] <asac> like holiday ;) |
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[21:39] <BUGabundo> and we just wish it can make through the weekend |
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[21:39] <ogra> asac, well, there is a holiday tomorrow :) |
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[21:40] <asac> ogra: not here |
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[21:40] <BUGabundo> http://neacm.fe.up.pt/stats/sysinfo/ |
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[21:40] <ogra> unless hamburg switched to be catholic |
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[21:40] <BUGabundo> Load Averages 24.17 22.36 22.19 |
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[21:40] <asac> ogra: no ... its not a public holiday here even though we are not catholic |
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[21:40] <BUGabundo> asac: reboot to get the new NM4 |
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[21:40] <asac> most likely this means that there is no religion here |
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[21:41] <ogra> heh |
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[21:41] <asac> ogra: or maybe i just have never heard of this day ;) |
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[21:41] <ogra> oh, carp |
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[21:41] <ogra> *crap even |
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[21:41] <asac> I'll will certainly notice when no stores have open tomorrow |
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[21:41] <asac> ;) |
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[21:41] <ogra> "am Fr.,31.10. ist Reformationstag |
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[21:41] <ogra> gesetzlicher Feiertag in Brandenburg, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt, Thüringen." |
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[21:41] <asac> see |
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[21:41] <ogra> gah |
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[21:41] <asac> thats how it works |
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[21:42] <asac> ostfeiertag halt |
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[21:42] * ogra has to work tomorrow |
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[21:42] <ogra> heh |
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[21:42] <BUGabundo> by the way asac |
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[21:42] <asac> ogra: glaube das liegt daran, dass die dort luther hatten ;) |
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[21:42] <BUGabundo> how do I do use wpa manually? |
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[21:42] <BUGabundo> I'm out of train |
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[21:42] <BUGabundo> haven't used it since gutsy |
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[21:42] <BUGabundo> brb |
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[21:42] <ogra> asac, niedersachsen hatter reformationstag bis vor n paar jahren :/ |
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[21:45] <BUGabundo> asac: back |
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[21:46] <asac> BUGabundo: well. now it takes at most 3 minutes until we know more |
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[21:46] <BUGabundo> ehehe |
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[21:46] <BUGabundo> Oct 30 21:46:06 blubug NetworkManager: <info> (wlan2): supplicant connection state change: 0 -> 4 |
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[21:46] <BUGabundo> Oct 30 21:46:21 blubug NetworkManager: <info> wlan2: link timed out. |
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[21:46] <BUGabundo> or not! |
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[21:46] <asac> BUGabundo: no thats ok |
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[21:46] <asac> the usual confusing messages from driver |
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[21:46] <asac> if you wouldnt get that it wouldnt take so long in the first place |
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[21:46] <BUGabundo> ah ok |
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[21:47] <asac> BUGabundo: do you tail the wpasupplicant.log? |
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[21:47] <BUGabundo> OT do you have a LP bug for the Tainted Network messages when modprob -r iwlagn && modprob iwlagn |
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[21:47] <asac> thats important ... i want to see whats going on during connect attempt |
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[21:47] <BUGabundo> i'am |
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[21:48] <asac> BUGabundo: tainted? |
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[21:48] <BUGabundo> hummm no |
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[21:48] <asac> i dont get those ;) |
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[21:48] <BUGabundo> not wpasupp |
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[21:48] <BUGabundo> just syslog |
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[21:48] <BUGabundo> I get ... should I file a new bug? |
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[21:48] <asac> BUGabundo: yes why not. |
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[21:48] * BUGabundo tailing wpasup |
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[21:48] <asac> BUGabundo: if it still fails after 3 minutes i need wpasupp |
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[21:49] <asac> log together with syslog |
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[21:49] <BUGabundo> ok |
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[21:49] <BUGabundo> CTRL-EVENT-EAP-FAILURE EAP authentication failed |
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[21:49] <BUGabundo> 2nd try with fresh logs |
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[21:49] <asac> BUGabundo: flush the drivers too before that |
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[21:49] <BUGabundo> OpenSSL: tls_connection_handshake - Failed to read possible Application Data error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0) |
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[21:50] <BUGabundo> how do I do that? |
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[21:50] <asac> BUGabundo: reload the modeules |
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[21:50] <BUGabundo> naaa |
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[21:50] <asac> then give NM some time to settle |
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[21:50] <BUGabundo> if I do that I need to reboot |
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[21:50] <asac> then tail stuff and reproduce |
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[21:50] <asac> BUGabundo: you need? |
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[21:50] <BUGabundo> I can't get my wifi back |
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[21:50] <BUGabundo> if I remove the module |
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[21:50] <BUGabundo> that's why I said I get a tainted message |
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[21:51] <asac> sounds quite bad |
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[21:51] <BUGabundo> even if I turn WiFi off from NM |
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[21:51] <BUGabundo> it won't came back |
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[21:51] <asac> please paste output of modinfo iwlagn |
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[21:51] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64824/ |
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[21:51] <asac> BUGabundo: but you are sure its Tunneled TLS what you need? |
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[21:52] <BUGabundo> yep |
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[21:52] <BUGabundo> I'm sure |
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[21:52] <BUGabundo> it worked just fine with Hardy |
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[21:52] <asac> yeah get me the logs first then |
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[21:52] <BUGabundo> and previous versions of nm0.7 |
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[21:52] <asac> BUGabundo: do you still have the hardy kernels ? |
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[21:52] <BUGabundo> but now it won't even connect |
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[21:52] <BUGabundo> nop |
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[21:52] <asac> BUGabundo: what did you do with those? |
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[21:52] <BUGabundo> just 2.6.26-5 and 2.6.27-7 |
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[21:52] <BUGabundo> apt-get remove |
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[21:52] <asac> BUGabundo: maybe try .26 |
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[21:53] <asac> BUGabundo: thats a bad idea |
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[21:53] <asac> you should always keep them ;) |
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[21:53] <asac> they do no harm :-P |
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[21:53] <BUGabundo> it was working!!! lol |
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[21:53] <BUGabundo> as I said, only in the last week and a halt it stoped |
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[21:53] <asac> BUGabundo: what is working? |
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[21:53] <BUGabundo> before that I had lots of timeouts |
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[21:53] <BUGabundo> wifi with eduroam |
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[21:53] <asac> BUGabundo: yeah try 26 kernel please |
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[21:53] <BUGabundo> aint that what we are talking about? |
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[21:54] <asac> well you are not always precise |
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[21:54] <asac> so i have to ask seemingly stupid questions sometimes |
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[21:54] <BUGabundo> eheh |
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[21:54] <BUGabundo> no prob |
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[21:54] <BUGabundo> I'll try to be more precise |
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[21:54] <BUGabundo> be right back |
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[21:55] <BUGabundo> NM [finally] connected to the other AP (without encription) |
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[21:55] <BUGabundo> going to test VPN over WiFi |
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[21:55] <asac> BUGabundo: that works for me |
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[21:55] <BUGabundo> need to unplug the eth to be sure I'm using the correct connection |
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[21:55] <asac> BUGabundo: better get this issue sortd. dont get distracted ;) |
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[21:55] <BUGabundo> brb |
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[21:55] <asac> try .26 kernel |
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[21:56] <asac> also try to do it manually with a wpa_supplicant.conf |
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[21:59] <asac> Burgundavia: ^^ also i am still waiting for a supplicant log ;) |
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[22:10] <angusthefuzz> do any of you maintain the list of bug testing virtualbox images: http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ |
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[22:10] <angusthefuzz> The link is on the bug wiki knowledgebase page |
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[22:19] <bdmurray> angusthefuzz: I'm familiar with them but don't maintain them |
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[22:20] <angusthefuzz> bdmurray: the list is just really out of date and I wondered how I might help make some new images for testing |
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[22:20] <angusthefuzz> bdmurray: I happen to have server and desktop default installs for virtualbox already and I thought i might package them up for others to use |
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[22:21] <angusthefuzz> (8.10) |
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[22:22] * BUGabundo loves to run on 800x600.... bah old kernels... |
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[22:22] <BUGabundo> asac: 2.6.26-5 only has iwl4965 not iwlagn |
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[22:22] <BUGabundo> can't even turn my wifi on! |
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[22:22] <bdmurray> angusthefuzz: could you e-mail the ubuntu-qa mailing list about that so it can be discussed? |
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[22:23] <angusthefuzz> sure |
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[22:23] <BUGabundo> asac: rebooting to 2.6.27-7 |
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[22:23] <bdmurray> We've discussed providing virtual machine images before and I think it would be quite useful |
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[22:24] <BUGabundo> bdmurray: for upgrade testing? |
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[22:24] * BUGabundo rebooting |
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[22:24] <bdmurray> BUGabundo: or SRU verification |
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[22:26] <angusthefuzz> bdmurray: I also think it would be useful, that way triagers can test things without messing with their own system |
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[22:26] <bdmurray> angusthefuzz: right and install strange packages |
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[22:26] <angusthefuzz> or patches, etc |
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[22:28] <BUGabundo> asac: tailing new logs |
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[22:29] <BUGabundo> asac: [ 16.660173] cfg80211: Regulatory domain: US |
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[22:29] <BUGabundo> I'm in Europe... lol |
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[22:34] <BUGabundo> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64846/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/64847/ |
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[22:34] * BUGabundo is this thing on?? |
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[22:34] <BUGabundo> ping ubottu |
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[22:35] <BUGabundo> ping ubottu |
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[22:35] <BUGabundo> ubottu: ping |
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[22:35] <ubottu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore |
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[22:35] <BUGabundo> ahh its alive |
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[22:35] <BUGabundo> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64846/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/64847/ |
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[22:40] <angusthefuzz> bdmurray: the email has been sent, hopefully it will be well-received |
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[22:41] <BUGabundo> Call Trace: \n [<ffffffff8024e9b4>] warn_on_slowpath+0x64/0x90 \n Pid: 7019, comm: wpa_supplicant Tainted |
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[22:41] <BUGabundo> means anything to anyone? |
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[22:48] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/291291 |
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[22:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 291291 in wpasupplicant "wpa_supplicant Tainted" [Undecided,New] |
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[22:53] <asac> BUGabundo: looks bad ... i think its a bad idea to unload reload module when wpasupp is still running |
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[22:53] <BUGabundo> then make it resileant to it |
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[22:53] <BUGabundo> I just used NM |
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[22:54] <asac> NM has nothing to do with that tainted thing |
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[22:56] <BUGabundo> I just clicked on the nm-applet to turn WiFi off |
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[22:56] <BUGabundo> if that is what is inloading modules |
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[22:56] <BUGabundo> then there is where we need to start fixing |
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[22:56] <asac> no its the driver that goes down |
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[22:56] <asac> no its not |
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[22:56] <asac> anyway thanks so far. we will see |
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[22:57] <BUGabundo> sure |
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[22:57] <BUGabundo> just trying to debug |
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[22:58] <BUGabundo> asac: I also uploaded the wpa logs |
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[23:37] <angusthefuzz> bdmurray: I just found out that test image maintainer is an open qa position: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/KeyPositions |
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[23:38] <bdmurray> angusthefuzz: oh, so it is! |
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[23:40] <angusthefuzz> maybe this will prompt them to fill the position :-) |
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[23:48] <hggdh> angusthefuzz, why don't you propose for that? |
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[23:50] <angusthefuzz> hggdh: I am thinking about it. I am worried that my upload isnt fast enough for multiple weekly images (i only get about 50 KB/s) |
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[23:50] <hggdh> huh, that's not going to do the trick... |
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[23:50] * Hobbsee is wondering how the images actually get made. |
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[23:51] * hggdh was also thinking (in a tortuous way) about that |
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[23:51] <angusthefuzz> Hobbsee: basically you perform an install in virtualbox, then take the resulting image file and zip it up |
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[23:51] <Hobbsee> angusthefuzz: ahhh |
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[23:51] <angusthefuzz> the trick is to do nothing to the install, to keep it as default as possible |
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[23:51] <hggdh> aye |
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[23:52] <angusthefuzz> but whoever filled that role would constantly be downloading isos and installing and reuploading them |
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[23:52] <hggdh> methinks VBox could be automated for that |
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[23:52] <angusthefuzz> hggdh: I agree |
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[23:52] <Hobbsee> the biggest problem there would be when the iso's don't install. |
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[23:52] * Hobbsee --> uni |
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[23:52] <Hobbsee> which is a lot of the time |
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[23:52] <Hobbsee> and/or the installer dosen't work. |
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[23:53] <hggdh> the problem is actually more complex: in the US most ISPs now impose a download cap per month -- 5G, usually |
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[23:53] <angusthefuzz> luckily mine isnt one of them |
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[23:53] <Hobbsee> hggdh: not all countries have that, fortunately. |
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[23:53] <Hobbsee> (mine does too, though) |
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[23:53] <hggdh> downloading all ISOs may very much blow the cap |
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[23:53] <angusthefuzz> and actually, I have access to a university network that is plenty fast enough |
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[23:53] <Hobbsee> hggdh: stick 'em on a linode or something. WOuldn't be overly difficult. |
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[23:53] <Hobbsee> a lot fo people have servers around |
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[23:53] <hggdh> but this could be split, with some people working, each on a ISO image |
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[23:54] <angusthefuzz> hggdh: also, im not sure weekly is necessary, maybe even every other week would provide updated enough images most of the time |
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[23:54] <angusthefuzz> its better than right now, I think 7.10 is the latest they have |
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[23:54] <hggdh> we would need an update every time a new alpha, beta, or rc, or GA is put out |
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[23:54] <angusthefuzz> hggdh: yes, definitely |
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[23:55] <hggdh> so this puts the crunch only in the last few weeks of a release cycle |
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[23:55] <angusthefuzz> hggdh: back to your automation comment, I am not sure vbox could go through an install without any manual input |
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[23:56] <hggdh> I am not sure how we could answer the default install questions automated |
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[23:56] <angusthefuzz> that would be tricky, if its even possible, plus I wouldnt be there to file new bugs if I found problems |
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[23:57] <mrooney> Is there an easy way to switch locales, say to debug an issue? |
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[23:58] <hggdh> mrooney, I *knew* the answer -- and it was simple. But I forgot... :-( |
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[23:59] <mrooney> For example if I want to see an issue with a translation, how might I get applications to use it? |
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