| [04:25] <crimsun> asac: removing NM resolves the issue; e.g., using wicd instead | |
| [04:25] <crimsun> asac: it's completely possible that the symptom is triggered by faulty wifi drivers and that the NM bit is just a red herring | |
| [04:26] <crimsun> asac: unfortunately, I haven't the resources to chase it further tonight | |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | |
| [12:12] <plun> Hello, fta around ? | |
| === fta_ is now known as fta | |
| [18:03] <fta> plun, ? | |
| [18:09] <plun> fta: yup awake ? ;) | |
| [18:12] <plun> fta: its about this one http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/c/cairo/cairo_1.8.0-0ubuntu1/changelog enabled or not ? dizzy screen ;) | |
| [18:12] <fta> plun, enabled | |
| [18:12] <fta> plun, what is fuzzy ? | |
| [18:13] <plun> fta: prefs > appearance> fonts , do it also youself | |
| [18:13] <plun> | |
| [18:14] <fta> plun, if it's ff3.1, or any xul 1.9.1 app, it's expected | |
| [18:15] <plun> No its FF3.03 and other users within Sweden also asked about it. | |
| [18:15] <plun> Click on "Details" and choose something and close, all is disabled then. | |
| [18:17] <fta> for me, it's all fine. | |
| [18:17] <plun> No it is "dizzy" and I was not out yesterday evening :) | |
| [18:19] <fta> well, i don't see that here. and it's not cairo, the pref thing is about fontconfig | |
| [18:20] <fta> imho, fontconfig default setup is a mess in intrepid | |
| [18:20] <plun> http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/4849/disable_c16PQ2.jpg | |
| [18:20] <plun> Also this if you choose something from "Details".... everything is "disabled" | |
| [18:22] <fta> do you mean it was different with 1.7.6 ? | |
| [18:22] <fta> cairo 1.7.6 | |
| [18:24] <plun> No it seems to come and go ...... something must trigger this from Gnome-settings and Gnomes packages comes within a "flood". 2.24.1 challenge ???? | |
| [18:32] <plun> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343670 Testing with "mlinds" commands again ;) | |
| [18:35] <plun> Native, Always, No bitmapped fonts > Intrepids setting was "Automatic" ??? | |
| [18:35] <plun> sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config | |
| [18:35] <plun> sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig | |
| [18:43] <plun> fta: I can see a difference after running fontconfig and enabled full hinting within details ;) | |
| [18:49] <fta> anyone on amd64 willing to try my last songbird build ? | |
| [18:49] <fta> it seems i can't move the main window, while i can on i386 | |
| [18:53] <fabrice_sp> Hi fta: I'm on amd64, with Intrepid | |
| [18:53] <fta> fabrice_sp, are you using my ppa ? | |
| [18:53] <fabrice_sp> no yet :-) | |
| [18:53] <plun> fta: found a triaged bug.... | |
| [18:53] <plun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/153521 | |
| [18:53] <plun> What gnome package can it be which communicates with fontconfig ? | |
| [18:53] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 153521 in fontconfig "fonts are blurred with subpixel rendering" [High,Triaged] | |
| [18:54] <fta> fabrice_sp, please have a look there: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ | |
| [18:58] <plun> fta... is this fixed ? | |
| [18:58] <plun> As of this writing, cairo is unable to read the settings from fontconfig, so let’s add the equivalent X resources for cairo applications to obey. | |
| [18:58] <plun> http://johan.kiviniemi.name/blag/2008/01/12/ubuntu-hardy-fonts/ | |
| [19:00] <fta> cairo is able to read some parameters from fontconfig. but upstream is working on that lcd thing in the current dev cycle (ie, for the upcoming stable 1.10.*) | |
| [19:01] <fta> as i said, fontconfig is messy as it provides a lot of tweaks trying to bring a default look acceptable to everyone, but there's no way to please everyone so those tweaks are getting in the way | |
| [19:02] <fta> 53-monospace-lcd-filter.conf is one of those tweaks | |
| [19:02] <fabrice_sp> fta: no sound, and just froze | |
| [19:02] <fabrice_sp> Rhythmbox is playing fine the same mp3 file | |
| [19:02] <fta> fabrice_sp, ? is pulseaudio running ? | |
| [19:03] <fta> fabrice_sp, my question here was, are you able to move the main window? | |
| [19:03] <fabrice_sp> yes, when media detection ended | |
| [19:06] <fabrice_sp> (and yes, pulseaudio is running) | |
| [19:07] <fta> i don't have any problem to play sound with songbird (there's a bug with the control that upstream is currently working on but double clicking on a file in the library should work) | |
| [19:07] <fta> controls (the play/pause/<</>> buttons) | |
| [19:08] <fabrice_sp> fta: I'll try that way | |
| [19:08] <fta> it should never freeze | |
| [19:11] <fabrice_sp> the same: no sound, and when switching to another song => freeze. Maybe something wrong in my setup | |
| [19:12] <fta> fabrice_sp, try to run it with GST_DEBUG=2 | |
| [19:12] <fta> it's verbose | |
| [19:12] <fabrice_sp> ok | |
| [19:14] <plun> fta: Ok and thanks....playing around with Johans conf settings just for fun. | |
| [19:14] <plun> One more thing.... Lightning works with TB3 ;) (tested with nightly) | |
| [19:14] <fta> plun, good | |
| [19:14] <fabrice_sp> by the way, I can move the window, but I can't put part out of the principal screen | |
| [19:15] <fabrice_sp> and I'm getting (songbird-bin:7827): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_element_query: assertion `GST_IS_ELEMENT (element)' failed | |
| [19:15] <fabrice_sp> before freezing | |
| [19:15] <fta> GST_DEBUG=2 /usr/lib/songbird/songbird-bin > /tmp/log 2>&1 | |
| [19:16] <fta> then look for pulse in /tmp/log | |
| [19:23] <fabrice_sp> no pulse at all :-( | |
| [19:23] <fabrice_sp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/62965/ | |
| [19:34] <plun> fta: just a report after a Gnome restart, it is better on my screen with Johans conf files. | |
| [19:34] <plun> But there must probably be room for "howtos" also for Intrepid ;) | |
| [19:34] <plun> Thanks for clarifying this ! ;) See you ! | |
| [20:12] <nxvl> hi | |
| [20:12] <nxvl> someone around that can help me find the "firefox is already running" dialog? | |
| [20:41] <fta> asac, mozilla Bug 461082 | |
| [20:41] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 461082 in Build Config "Deliver NSS 3.12.2 and NSPR 4.7.2 to Mozilla" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461082 | |
| [20:44] <fta> [reed], what is sisyphus? | |
| [20:45] <fta> mozilla Bug 461135 | |
| [20:45] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 461135 in Video/Audio "Audio does not play in <audio> or <video> elements with PulseAudio" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461135 | |
| [21:26] <crimsun> asac: bug 274995 appears to affect both wired and wireless interfaces. There does not seem to be any correlation between certain drivers. However, downing the affected network interfaces /prior/ to saving sound state resolves the hangs. Obviously that workaround is unacceptable. | |
| [21:26] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 274995 in network-manager "storing mixer element values during shutdown hangs nondeterministically if wireless interfaces are still up" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274995 | |
| [21:29] <fta> do we have something like that in ubuntu? http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/10/msg00018.html | |
| [21:33] <asac> crimsun: so is this pulseaudio doing networking and not failing properly? | |
| [21:33] <asac> crimsun: also there are other claims in the bug that see this without NM | |
| [21:46] <nxvl> is there any way to make firefox crash? | |
| [21:46] <nxvl> for QA | |
| [21:48] <gnomefreak> what it doesnt crash enough for you? | |
| [21:48] <gnomefreak> install libflashsupport to make it crash | |
| [21:49] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: are you around this week sometime? | |
| [21:49] <nxvl> heh | |
| [21:50] <nxvl> gnomefreak: yeah, but i need to test a crash message, so i don't want to wait until it crashes | |
| [21:50] <gnomefreak> ah | |
| [21:51] <gnomefreak> i can honestly say i havent tried to make it crash exept with 2.0 beta | |
| [21:51] <fta> 3.1 didn't crash for me in weeks | |
| [21:51] <gnomefreak> it works here as well | |
| [21:52] * gnomefreak wondes if plastic wrap will work :( | |
| [21:53] <gnomefreak> not to crash anything | |
| [21:54] <gnomefreak> fta: did tb3.0b1 land yet? | |
| [21:54] <fta> nope | |
| [21:54] * gnomefreak might work on tb extensions this week once i get firegpg upgraded | |
| [21:55] <gnomefreak> we really need a working way to upgrade extensions i did it per wiki but i think its a configure failure not an upgrade one | |
| [21:59] <crimsun> asac: don't believe so, but we can ask to eliminate PA from the picture during the tests. | |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | |
| [22:02] <Jazzva> gnomefreak, most of the time... depends on school. tomorrow I will be off for the whole day. | |
| [22:02] <Jazzva> I'm here now... | |
| [22:02] <gnomefreak> if i unblacklisted something would it have changed back to being blacklisted? | |
| [22:03] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: i have a meetin in morning but sshould be back ~lunchtime. once i find sometihing to wrap wrist in i will get error for you | |
| [22:04] <Jazzva> Ok... tomorrow? I won't be here... well, not until ~midnight, UTC+1 | |
| [22:04] <gnomefreak> ok ill see if i can get error now | |
| [22:06] <gnomefreak> i lost sound here about 2 weeks ago :( | |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | |
| [22:13] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: its gonna be a while i lost upstream source :( | |
| [22:15] <gnomefreak> we should really find a way to package tarball from svn/cvs | |
| [22:21] <gnomefreak> maybe not | |
| [22:24] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: do we have any "correct" way to tar up source from svn? | |
| [22:33] <Jazzva> gnomefreak, tar it up and then gzip it. | |
| [22:33] <Jazzva> I think you have to pass -9 parameter to gzip, in order to use best compression. | |
| [22:34] <gnomefreak> why tar it up than gzip it? isnt that the same? | |
| [22:35] <Jazzva> tar will produce an archive file, which will be compressed by gzip | |
| [22:37] <Jazzva> gnomefreak, archive file is not the same as compressed file... | |
| [22:37] <gnomefreak> ah | |
| === rzr is now known as rZr | |
| [22:59] * gnomefreak too tried i jhust fucked up my .ubuntu branch | |
| [22:59] <gnomefreak> just | |
| [22:59] <gnomefreak> tired | |
| [23:01] <gnomefreak> gzip -9 *.tar.gz not working | |
| [23:03] <fta> gzip -9 *.tar | |
| [23:10] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~/extension_builds/firegpg/source$ ls | |
| [23:10] <gnomefreak> firegpg firegpg_0.6.2.orig.tar.gz | |
| [23:10] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~/extension_builds/firegpg/source$ gzip -9 *.tar | |
| [23:10] <gnomefreak> gzip: *.tar: No such file or directory | |
| [23:10] <gnomefreak> hmmmm | |
| [23:11] <gnomefreak> something wrong with the tarball | |
| [23:11] <fta> well, you already have a file named tar.gz | |
| [23:11] <gnomefreak> ? | |
| [23:12] <fta> is it really a tar.gz ? | |
| [23:12] <fta> file *gz | |
| [23:13] <gnomefreak> not sure i used nautilus to make it that time | |
| [23:13] <gnomefreak> its fixable | |
| [23:13] <fta> file *gz | |
| [23:14] <gnomefreak> should i just use the -cfzv? | |
| [23:15] <fta> yes, tar -zcvf --exclude .svn firegpg_0.6.2.orig.tar.gz firegpg | |
| [23:16] <gnomefreak> ctzf even | |
| [23:16] <fta> no | |
| [23:16] <gnomefreak> errors | |
| [23:17] <gnomefreak> seems --exclide doent work | |
| [23:17] <gnomefreak> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors | |
| [23:17] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~/extension_builds/firegpg/source$ ls | |
| [23:17] <gnomefreak> --exclude firegpg | |
| [23:17] <fta> tar -zcvf --exclude=.svn firegpg_0.6.2.orig.tar.gz firegpg | |
| [23:17] <fta> oops, sorry | |
| [23:18] <fta> tar --exclude=.svn -zcvf firegpg_0.6.2.orig.tar.gz firegpg | |
| [23:19] <gnomefreak> ahy that one worked :) | |
| [23:19] <gnomefreak> thanks | |
| [23:28] <gnomefreak> ok running build ill check it later im fairly sure its gonna fail but we will see | |
| [23:29] <gnomefreak> that was fast | |
| [23:31] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: fta if either of you have a sec http://pastebin.mozilla.org/562102 all are .svn removed from tarball should i remove from .ubuntu? hold that thought im gonna try that now | |
| [23:33] <gnomefreak> nope still fails | |
| [23:34] <Jazzva> gnomefreak, you should. the best way is to remove it in .upstream branch, then create .ubuntu branch from that one... | |
| [23:34] <Jazzva> but I guess you can just remove it in .ubuntu branch, in case you already applied your modifications. | |
| [23:35] <gnomefreak> removing .ubuntu/.svn didnt work i guess i have to remove it from all files | |
| [23:35] <gnomefreak> or i grab upstream and remove than push again and use it | |
| [23:36] <gnomefreak> there has to be an easy way to remove all .svn files | |
| [23:36] <gnomefreak> its not just in toplevle dir | |
| [23:36] <gnomefreak> level | |
| [23:37] <gnomefreak> i cant use *.svn or all dirs will be removed | |
| [23:42] <fta> hm, good, controls are fixed in the latest songbird | |
| [23:42] <fta> i like the new UI | |
| [23:42] <fta> yet, it's not integrated at all | |