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[06:34] <thismamacooks200> if I run a repeating playlist or a long video in *any* media player, it stops playing and the player eventually stop playing sound at all until I close and restart it. I also have the same problem with audio in firefox. Games also will not make sound if firefox or a media player are opened first.
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[14:54] <sbalneav> Morning all
[18:15] <Eeyore-Jr> hi. i quite a few questions
[18:15] <Eeyore-Jr> can i use ltsp server as a central login/home/storage server but use standalone machines
[18:37] <sbalneav> Eeyore-Jr: You could
[18:37] <sbalneav> It'd take a bit of modification of things, but not too much
[18:48] <Nubae> Eeyore-Jr: take a look at www.nubae.com theres an article about using ltsp to serve fat clients... which is more or less what u want, except there is no data stored on the client machines
[19:03] <Eeyore-Jr> Nubae: thx
[19:11] <Eeyore-Jr> so ltsp will serve to pii 450 with 512mb ram and work as well as it were if it were running on the server?
[19:12] <Eeyore-Jr> someone referred me here, as i was looking at ubuntu intrepid server and installing ltsp. is there a difference between edubuntu and ubuntu + ltsp ?
[19:12] <Eeyore-Jr> i'm looking for "lean"
[19:13] <sbalneav> edubuntu = ubuntu + ltsp + educational apps
[19:13] <Eeyore-Jr> i've looked at the educational apps, and some of them are cheesy. i've been thinking about paying someone to build some apps
[19:14] <Eeyore-Jr> i guess my question about edubuntu was, is it pre-configured, or does it matter for ltsp ?
[19:14] <Eeyore-Jr> ah, and what about windows apps on wine. run the same way ?
[19:15] <sbalneav> Why not pay to have someone help to make the current apps less cheesy :) That benefits us all, then.
[19:15] <sbalneav> Yes.
[19:15] <Eeyore-Jr> sbalneav: well, yes, there is that
[19:16] <Eeyore-Jr> ok, next question, i can install ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, e17 on ubuntu ltsp and let the end user choose his desktop ?
[19:16] <sbalneav> Well, you simply install whatever desktops you'd like on the server, and then the user can choose from there.
[19:17] <Eeyore-Jr> going the ubuntu server route, i'm going to need xwindows as well
[19:17] <sbalneav> yes
[19:17] <Eeyore-Jr> nm, i'll kubuntu it and then do e17
[19:35] <Nubae> Eeyore-Jr: if u want ltsp, you're best of sticking with ubuntu
[20:01] <Lns> Nubae!
[20:25] <DrX> how can you see the version of your RAID driver?
[20:58] <sbalneav> DrX: Some context would be useful :)
[20:59] <sbalneav> I mean, uname -a gives you your kernel version, which, depending on your raid driver (i.e. if it's a built in one) is also it's version
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[21:21] <Eeyore-Jr> Nubae: ?
[21:21] <Eeyore-Jr> any particular reason why stick with ubuntu?
[21:22] <Nubae> cause ltsp has been heavily tested on Ubuntu only...
[21:23] <Nubae> its definitely gnome reliant
[21:23] <Eeyore-Jr> :(
[21:23] <Eeyore-Jr> guess i'll be a guine pig
[21:23] <Eeyore-Jr> :)
[21:23] <Nubae> doesnt mean u cant run kubuntu, its just apt-getting the ltsp server stuff
[21:24] <Nubae> but u'd have less problems with ubuntu
[21:24] <Eeyore-Jr> ah, that's what i think i'm doing now with bare ubuntu server
[21:24] <Eeyore-Jr> less probelms because edubuntu or ubuntu has better confiugriaon
[22:00] <Eeyore-Jr> i noticed in aptitude there is standalone, vs server ... port forwarding boot requests?
[22:05] <Eeyore-Jr> what is a fused server?
[22:07] <Eeyore-Jr> i suppose i could put the standalone on now and then sepearte the two later
[22:10] <Eeyore-Jr> looks like there is clietn and client-core ... but adept doesn't tell me what is so different about them
[22:18] <sbalneav> ltsp-server-standalone includes the dhcp3-server package being installed. ltsp-server doesn't include the dhcp3-server package.
[22:18] <sbalneav> Most people want the -standalone package, as they typically don't have a dhcp server already.
[22:21] <varikk> Hello all
[22:22] <varikk> can anyone point me to some documentation that explains setting up an edubuntu server for my school and thin clients?
[22:29] <sbalneav> !docs
[22:29] <ubottu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[22:29] <sbalneav> Also:
[22:30] <sbalneav> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
[22:31] <sbalneav> Heading home
[22:31] <sbalneav> be on later
[22:32] <Eeyore-Jr> well, i'm about ready to test the idea of ltsp on a consumer machine with 7 clients and see if it works. :)
[23:04] <Eeyore-Jr> k, has anyone tried to use music software with a usb piano keyboard and ltsp server serving the app?
[23:04] <Eeyore-Jr> or i guess the question is, does ltsp recognize the local usb ports
[23:22] <Eeyore-Jr> is there a way to "monitor" a ltsp workstation? ie, see what is going on video wise?
[23:28] <Eeyore-Jr> ah, ha, hit f4 and the ltsp server will install
[23:31] <Eeyore-Jr> hrm, 8.10 does not have a ltsp option
[23:32] <Nubae> really
[23:32] <Nubae> it should... the alpha and beta did
[23:33] <Nubae> make sure its the alternative cd
[23:33] <Eeyore-Jr> i'm on the beta, and f4 only gives normal and minimal
[23:33] <Nubae> alternative cd?
[23:33] <Eeyore-Jr> ubuntu server cd or ubuntu alternate?
[23:33] <Nubae> ubuntu alternate
[23:33] <Eeyore-Jr> is there an ubuntuer server alternate?
[23:33] <Nubae> no
[23:34] <Eeyore-Jr> ah. booting from ubuntu, xubuntu or kuubntu will install ltsp for that particular flavor? or just a base ubuntu ltsp server?
[23:36] <Nubae> particular flavour