| [01:08] <apachelogger> blizzz: TBH, in order to fix stuff in KDE you just need to have a text editor, the knowledge how to use google and a lot of time ;-) | |
| [01:08] <apachelogger> poking code with code snippets might not be very productive but certainly works :P | |
| [01:08] <blizzz> apachelogger: my eyes are two big question marks | |
| [01:08] <apachelogger> perfect | |
| [01:09] <blizzz> what do you point at? | |
| [01:09] <apachelogger> blizzz: whether C++ knowledge is still required for doing some Kubuntu magic | |
| [01:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: I will sneak a patch to increase kopenwithdialog's reliability in my kde4libs upload | |
| [01:11] <apachelogger> currently it creates KService objects using findByName, which fails for a lot of apps | |
| [01:12] <persia> apachelogger, One doesn't need C++ to cherrypick, but it can help when upstream is inactive. I know I learned it because I needed to port an app and upstream said "Oh, I'l probably get to it in a couple years". | |
| [01:12] <blizzz> apachelogger: i will tell that as side note ;) | |
| [01:13] <apachelogger> persia: yeah, I am learning C++ so I can rewrite KDE's help center one day :) | |
| [01:13] <apachelogger> horrible application right now | |
| [01:14] <persia> heh. Best way to learn is to be motivated to fix something :) | |
| [01:14] <apachelogger> blizzz: perfect, and recruit me some minions :P | |
| [01:15] <blizzz> i don't even know what this word mean in german | |
| [01:16] <blizzz> ah Diener | |
| [01:16] <blizzz> get Carlos | |
| [01:16] <apachelogger> lol | |
| === akonadi is now known as nihui | |
| [02:10] <a|wen> where should icons for kde4 apps be put ... in /usr/share/icons/hicolor* or in someplace else also | |
| [02:11] <a|wen> ? | |
| [02:19] <Hobbsee> a|wen: #ubuntu-motu should be reasonably desktop-agnostic - but a lot of people don't know kdepackaging in there. | |
| [02:20] <a|wen> Hobbsee: there seemed to be around the same amount of life (eg. chance of an answer) in both channels | |
| [02:21] <Hobbsee> a|wen: that's true. particularly depends on when you ask, too. | |
| [02:21] <a|wen> he, true enough | |
| [02:22] <persia> Doesn't KDE4 just look in the standard XDG locations for icons? | |
| [02:23] <apachelogger> a|wen: depends on the icons really | |
| [02:24] <apachelogger> the application's icon always goes to hicolor | |
| [02:24] <a|wen> apachelogger: it is the applications main icon (to be seen in the application launcher) | |
| [02:24] <apachelogger> icons which are only used/of use for the app itself usually go to share/kde4/apps/APPNAME/icons/ | |
| [02:24] <apachelogger> though they can as well go to hicolor | |
| [02:25] <apachelogger> a|wen: hicolor then | |
| [02:26] <a|wen> apachelogger: seems the application launcher doesn't pick them up though | |
| [02:26] <apachelogger> a|wen: KDE 4 application? | |
| [02:26] <a|wen> yeah ... kvkbd | |
| [02:26] <apachelogger> hm | |
| [02:27] <apachelogger> kquitapp plasma && plasma& | |
| [02:28] <a|wen> apachelogger: i tried to logout/login again | |
| [02:28] <apachelogger> hmmm | |
| [02:28] <apachelogger> a|wen: are you sure the name in the desktop file matches the icon name? | |
| [02:31] <a|wen> apachelogger: it does | |
| [02:32] <apachelogger> very odd | |
| [02:33] <apachelogger> a|wen: can you upload the icon and desktop file somewhere | |
| [02:34] <a|wen> apachelogger: was just going to | |
| [02:36] <a|wen-intrepid> apachelogger: the .desktop file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59091/ | |
| [02:38] <a|wen-intrepid> apachelogger: and this is the location of the icon files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59092/ | |
| [02:39] <apachelogger> a|wen: try a new user | |
| [02:43] <a|wen> apachelogger: not any better :/ | |
| [02:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: uploaded kde4libs | |
| [02:44] <apachelogger> a|wen: technically it should work, are the permissions of the icon files correct? | |
| [02:47] <a|wen> apachelogger: 644 root:root in all cases (i suppose this is right) | |
| [02:48] <apachelogger> meh | |
| [02:48] <apachelogger> a|wen: no idea then | |
| [02:48] <apachelogger> in theory it should be working | |
| [02:50] <a|wen> apachelogger: strange ... it uses the icon to bounce up/down when i start the app; but can't display it still | |
| [02:50] <apachelogger> hm, maybe a caching issue | |
| [02:53] <a|wen> apachelogger: didn't we have a problem with the konversation icon not showing in certain cases? | |
| [02:53] <apachelogger> that was due to konversation not being stored in /kde4 | |
| [02:54] <apachelogger> kvkbd on the other hand is | |
| [02:55] <a|wen-intrepid> apachelogger: if i add konveration to favorites it doesn't show a correct icon <-- same for you? | |
| [02:57] <a|wen-intrepid> i suppose this could be the reason for it: | |
| [02:57] <Hobbsee> who sponsored the kdebase-workspace change? | |
| [02:57] <a|wen-intrepid> wrong size -> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/konversation.png: PNG image data, 31 x 31, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced | |
| [02:58] <Hobbsee> Riddell! | |
| [03:23] <vorian> evening | |
| [03:27] <nixternal> evening to you as well good sir | |
| [03:28] <apachelogger> a|wen: fix for that awaits approval | |
| [03:29] <a|wen> apachelogger: okay ... then i'll stay away from that :) | |
| [03:32] * vorian thinks apachelogger never sleeps | |
| [03:34] <apachelogger> sleep is overrated | |
| [03:34] * a|wen will go to sleep | |
| [03:35] <vorian> ha | |
| [03:35] <a|wen> i can sleep an hour extra for you apachelogger ;) | |
| [03:35] <vorian> congrats on your membership a|wen :) | |
| [03:35] <a|wen> thx vorian :) | |
| [03:35] <apachelogger> a|wen: very nice, thank you ;-) | |
| [03:36] <a|wen> night everyone, see you tomorrow | |
| [03:36] <vorian> nn | |
| [03:53] <nixternal> apachelogger: what is top of the agenda right now? | |
| [03:54] <apachelogger> nixternal: getting lang packs fixed ;-) | |
| [03:54] <apachelogger> and bug triage, as always | |
| [03:55] <nixternal> do we have a list of "must fix now" bugs? | |
| [04:00] <apachelogger> not really, just check out the once targeted for 8.10 | |
| [04:03] <nixternal> roger that | |
| [04:57] <nixternal> kile in svn actually builds and runs | |
| [04:58] <nixternal> impressive..however it is very rough | |
| [04:58] <ScottK-palm> nixternal: How's your dbus? | |
| [04:58] <nixternal> not as good as my udev or hal :P | |
| [04:58] <nixternal> what's up? | |
| [04:59] <nixternal> I have been up to my kneck writing some code around udev and hal for our appliance at work...what a headache that has been | |
| [04:59] <ScottK-palm> There's a guidance-power-manager bug I could use some help on. | |
| [04:59] <ScottK-palm> Back in a second with the number. | |
| [05:00] <ScottK-palm> nixternal: Bug 277678 | |
| [05:00] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 277678 in guidance-power-manager "Using Adept, upgrade - python2.5 crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277678 | |
| [05:00] <nixternal> ya, I get that damn thing all of the time...I can take a gander at that | |
| [05:02] <ScottK-palm> I don't get that one. | |
| [05:03] <nixternal> maybe this isn't the one I get...must be another 2.5 one that I have ignored for the time being as I have already commented on it | |
| [05:03] <ScottK-palm> Which? | |
| [05:07] <Hobbsee> txwikinger: your bugfix has been accepted, but has failed on lpia. | |
| [05:07] <txwikinger> ichthux? | |
| [05:08] <Hobbsee> as did ppx | |
| [05:08] <Hobbsee> ppc | |
| [05:08] <Hobbsee> yes | |
| [05:08] <Hobbsee> and sparc. | |
| [05:08] <ScottK-palm> A lot of kde is broken on lpia and all of it on hppa. | |
| [05:09] <Hobbsee> ScottK-palm: nah, it's a broken rules file | |
| [05:09] <ScottK-palm> Ah. | |
| [05:09] <txwikinger> hmm. I have to look into that then | |
| [05:10] <Hobbsee> txwikinger: ah. you don't have all the files for all the architectures in the source directory. | |
| [05:10] <Hobbsee> you've got 4 desktop-<flavour>, but 6 live-recommends-<flavour>, and no mention of lpia anywhere | |
| [05:10] <Hobbsee> etc | |
| [05:11] <txwikinger> ok.. I will have a look | |
| [05:11] * txwikinger tries to figure out how to test userconfig within systemsettings | |
| [05:15] <ScottK-palm> Hobbsee: Please beat nixternal with your stick until he fixes my Guidance bug. | |
| [05:15] <ScottK-palm> See you all later. | |
| [05:15] <Hobbsee> heh | |
| [05:15] <Hobbsee> cya | |
| [05:26] <nixternal> ScottK: looks like the GetAllProperties call in powermanage.py needs to be in a try: except: | |
| [05:27] <nixternal> !pastebin | |
| [05:27] <ubottu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | |
| [05:32] <nixternal> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/59141/ | |
| [06:14] <jussi01> rgreening: now you are a member, you get specialness like a cloak :) | |
| [06:15] <Hobbsee> prepare to be spammed! | |
| [06:31] <Hobbsee> another thing kubuntu has, but ubuntu doesn't by deafult. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/14514/ | |
| [07:14] <rgreening> 42 | |
| [07:14] <NCommander> rgreening, its 47 now once you correct for inflation | |
| [07:15] <rgreening> lol | |
| [07:15] <rgreening> It's the answer, but what it the question? | |
| [07:15] <rgreening> Dirk Gently knows | |
| [07:17] <rgreening> I lost you probably huh? Read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams) | |
| [07:31] <NCommander> rgreening, no, I read it | |
| [07:31] <NCommander> You didn't get the 47 ;-) | |
| [07:31] <NCommander> In Star Trek, its the answer corrected for inflation | |
| [07:52] <jussi01> Just finished my intrepid upgrade from hardy! | |
| [07:52] <jussi01> worked suprisingly well considering I had all sorts of weird stuff installed, the kubuntu members repo etc | |
| === eagles is now known as eagles0513875 | |
| [11:08] <NCommander> Riddell, ping | |
| [11:10] <Riddell> hi NCommander | |
| [11:10] <Riddell> jussi01: any problems? | |
| [11:12] <jussi01> Riddell: a few, x didnt start and I had to reconfigure and reinstall fglrx, lost all my konq bookmarks, (thank god for backups) and a few other configs | |
| [11:14] <jussi01> Riddell: regarding bug 281808 - Ive added a whole lot of info and done some debugging with crimsun but still stumped on that. | |
| [11:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 281808 in kdebase "Flashplugin not working in Konqueror (8.10)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/281808 | |
| [11:19] <Riddell> flash can be nasty | |
| [11:19] <seaLne> interesting update-manager fails on my machine at home complaining about needing way too much disk space in /boot :( | |
| [11:19] <NCommander> Riddell, can I steal you for an upload of linux-lpia in one or two hours? | |
| [11:20] <seaLne> so unfortunatly not just a fluke at work | |
| [11:22] <Riddell> seaLne: make sure you report a bug about that and attach /var/log/dist-upgrade/* | |
| [11:22] <seaLne> yeah just trying to find the bug i reported last time | |
| [11:22] <seaLne> #264282 | |
| [11:23] <Riddell> then poke mvo politely | |
| [11:25] <a|wen> crappy kde icon cache not updating itself ... that's why things doesn't seem to work right | |
| [11:26] <a|wen> Riddell: i have an update to kvkbd including icons ready for you in 10 minutes? ... no more missing icons on a default kubuntu install | |
| [11:31] <Riddell> a|wen: does smarter know? | |
| [11:32] * smarter waves | |
| [11:32] <a|wen> hi smarter :) | |
| [11:32] <smarter> what's your update? | |
| [11:32] <a|wen> it's simply adding some icons to kvkbd | |
| [11:32] <smarter> in the desktop file? | |
| [11:32] <smarter> if so, I've fixed it in the svn | |
| [11:33] <smarter> in fact, I may release Kvkbd 0.6 with tons of fixes today if the patch ossi sent me for apps-on-kdm work | |
| [11:33] <a|wen> the desktop files already mentions icons ... but there isn't any installed or in the package | |
| [11:33] <smarter> a|wen: shouldn't be needed, it uses an oxygen icon | |
| [11:33] <smarter> (which is a standard fd.o icon name afaik) | |
| [11:34] <a|wen> smarter: ahh, cool (that is someting new then, i suppose= | |
| [11:34] <a|wen> ? | |
| [11:34] <smarter> don't remember how it was in 0.5.99 :P | |
| [11:34] <smarter> there's a package on my ppa if you want to test | |
| [11:35] <a|wen> smarter: i'll give it a spin and see if it looks good :) | |
| [11:37] <smarter> also, once 0.6 is released I'll try to plasmoidify Kvkbd :) | |
| [11:39] <a|wen> uhh ... we also need a good keyboard for the touchscreens | |
| [11:40] <smarter> well, kvkbd should work on touchscreens | |
| [11:41] <a|wen> of course ... but it needs to be über-cool as well | |
| [11:41] <smarter> that's why I make it a plasmoid :P | |
| [11:41] <smarter> then we can have themes and stuff | |
| [11:41] <smarter> and rotated keyboard \o/ | |
| [11:41] <smarter> (not sure if that word exists :p) | |
| [11:42] <a|wen> just my point | |
| [11:42] <a|wen> :) | |
| [11:49] <a|wen> smarter: svn snapshop seems to look good ... if you have anything else you need tested regarding it, just throw a msg | |
| [12:21] <mornfall> --> Seoul. Don't forget to hit on new Adept... ; - ) | |
| [12:23] <apachelogger> argh | |
| [12:23] <apachelogger> does hunters are killin animals again | |
| [12:24] <apachelogger> there goes the good mood | |
| [13:18] <apachelogger> "write the root password down" | |
| [13:18] * apachelogger rofls | |
| [13:18] <apachelogger> http://www.linux.com/feature/150427 | |
| [13:18] <apachelogger> kick ass | |
| [13:20] <Riddell> that highlights why sudo is superior | |
| [13:23] <apachelogger> hm, "root password, a great security measure, one reason linux tends to be more secure than other operating systems" | |
| [13:23] <apachelogger> something is wrong here | |
| [13:24] * apachelogger likes robin's videos | |
| [13:24] <Riddell> opensuse has a tickbox on its installed now "set root password to same as user password" | |
| [13:26] <apachelogger> 1:44 2nd video awesome statement | |
| [13:28] * a|wen wonders how they managed to make kde4 look so non-polished | |
| [13:29] <apachelogger> just like suse did | |
| [13:29] * apachelogger is worrid about the install/remove issues in mandriva | |
| [13:29] * apachelogger rsyncs CD and checks intrepid | |
| [13:31] <Riddell> install remove issues? | |
| [13:31] <apachelogger> Riddell: watch the second video | |
| [13:33] <a|wen> mandriva 2009 = wait till 2009, then we might have fixed it | |
| [13:35] * apachelogger is wondering how mandriva is making money with that kind fo issues :| | |
| [13:35] <Riddell> what makes you think they make money? | |
| [13:36] <apachelogger> the fact that they employ people :P | |
| [13:36] <apachelogger> oh, rsync almost finished, time to start xvm | |
| [13:37] <Riddell> wow, this is quite harsh | |
| [13:42] <seele> hmm.. wonder what robertknight wanted | |
| [13:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: why is ubiquity not using oxygen? | |
| [13:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: widget theme? because nobody ported it to pykde | |
| [13:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: interestingly, it magically switches to oxygen theme by the end | |
| [13:43] <apachelogger> Oo | |
| [13:44] <apachelogger> needs to be done for jaunty | |
| [13:44] <apachelogger> pretty weird looking | |
| [13:45] <Riddell> yes, it's not hard at all, just takes somebody to do it | |
| [13:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: it's in a bzr branch? | |
| [13:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: lp:ubiquity I expect | |
| [13:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: and no it won't get into intrepid :) | |
| [13:47] <apachelogger> I already exchanged the icons :P | |
| [13:47] <Riddell> we miss the "log in automatically" tickbox that ubuntu has and I was never told about | |
| [13:47] <apachelogger> makes it only halfbad | |
| [13:47] * Riddell watches apachelogger turn into a python programmer | |
| [13:47] <apachelogger> oh my | |
| [13:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, some german magazines consider autologin a security issue | |
| [13:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: it's a non-security feature surely | |
| [13:48] <apachelogger> *nod* | |
| [13:49] <apachelogger> Riddell: we should include an image selector | |
| [13:49] <Riddell> image selector? | |
| [13:49] <apachelogger> now that KDM uses the user's image resource we could provide a selection already at installation | |
| [13:50] <apachelogger> "user pic chooser" | |
| [13:50] <Riddell> mm, that might be fun, so long as it doesn't get in the way | |
| [13:51] <seele> apachelogger: user pic is a functional requirement in the new user admin tool | |
| [13:51] <apachelogger> seele: user admin tool? | |
| [13:51] <seele> i wonder if it would make sense to put the functionality in both places | |
| [13:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: maybe a box like in systemsetttings -> about me | |
| [13:51] <seele> apachelogger: yeah, TT was working with some UI designers and ME convinced them to do some pro bono work with KUP | |
| [13:51] <apachelogger> oh, nice :D | |
| [13:51] <seele> apachelogger: so they are designing a new KUser and i assume ME is going to find someone to implement it | |
| [13:52] <seele> it's going slowly though, so probably not until 4.3, but it will exist eventually | |
| [13:52] <seele> there is also an interest in a new kpackagekit ui ;P | |
| [13:52] <Riddell> txwikinger was looking at user config porting | |
| [13:52] <apachelogger> a lot of people were looking into porting | |
| [13:52] <apachelogger> then again user config didn't work very well | |
| [13:52] <Riddell> kpackagekit seems to have been added to the 4.2 feature plan | |
| [13:56] <a|wen> it wasn't the best ... but at least the user config was better than the gnome/ubuntu equivalent IMO (missed functional group assignments totally) | |
| [14:02] <apachelogger> ohhh | |
| [14:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: ubiquity has a static style defintion | |
| [14:02] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot164.png | |
| [14:02] <apachelogger> one line change | |
| [14:08] <persia> Riddell, re: log-in-automatically : you'll want to get user-setup-apply (in user-setup) to work with kdm as a preliminary step, before trying to adjust ubiquity. | |
| [14:10] <txwikinger> seele: If you need someone to implement it, I am interested | |
| [14:19] <txwikinger> Hi blizzz | |
| [14:21] <ScottK> nixternal: So you think the Guidance thing is yet another symptom of HAL gone missing (catching up from your paste of last night)? | |
| [14:23] <Riddell> apachelogger: mmm, really? | |
| [14:23] <Riddell> persia: yeah I know | |
| [14:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: self.app = QApplication(['ubiquity', '-style=plastique']) | |
| [14:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: what would be the best way to start porting? | |
| [14:25] <Riddell> it was forced to plastique I guess when pyqt-dbus didn't work with oxygen, they shouldn't affect it any more | |
| [14:25] <Riddell> so that should be safe to fix, I guess you could ask evand and/or cjwatson if they have an opinion about letting that change in | |
| [14:26] <Riddell> porting to pykde certainly won't get in intrepid but you just need to find a pykde template and copy over the bits | |
| [14:27] <Riddell> KAboutData, kCmdLineargs, s/QApplication/KApplication/ | |
| [14:27] * Riddell coming live from mandriva | |
| [14:27] <Riddell> start openoffice -> crash screen | |
| [14:29] <Riddell> I wonder why they don't use kickoff, they did in kde 3 times | |
| [14:29] <Riddell> hey Sime, we're turning apachelogger into a pykde programmer :) | |
| [14:29] <Sime> cool. and what is he going to do first? | |
| [14:30] <Riddell> port ubiquity to pykde from pyqt | |
| [14:31] <Sime> what does ubiquity do again? | |
| [14:31] <Riddell> kubuntu installer | |
| [14:31] * Sime is busy with Marble Python bindings. | |
| [14:31] <Riddell> that'll cause renewed calls for marble in ubiquity :) | |
| [14:31] * Riddell lunches | |
| [14:36] * txwikinger is looking for kcmshell4 documentation | |
| [14:37] <a|wen> ScottK: i took a quick look at the guidance bug ... you already have patched it to catch this exception; and it shouldn't be able to happen anymore (at least not with that exact backtrace, and all the duplicates had the same trace) | |
| [14:40] <ScottK> a|wen: OK. Thanks. I guess the one comment that they still had the problem was likely someone who didn't have the current one then. | |
| [14:40] * ScottK decides to wait and see then. | |
| [14:42] <a|wen> ScottK: yeah, i suppose so ... you could throw a comment, that if he still gets an apport popup, we would like him to complete it to get his traceback | |
| [14:51] <apachelogger> hm | |
| [14:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: how do I debug ubiquity? | |
| [14:52] <apachelogger> not very chatty that app | |
| [14:52] <NCommander> apachelogger, very painfully | |
| [14:53] <apachelogger> oh noes | |
| [14:53] * apachelogger should have ported it to ruby first :P | |
| [14:59] <txwikinger> well python has a logger library | |
| [14:59] <apachelogger> how to use that? | |
| [15:01] <txwikinger> import it and set it up | |
| [15:01] <txwikinger> then you can put log statements in the code | |
| [15:03] <txwikinger> apachelogger: http://docs.python.org/lib/module-logging.html | |
| [15:03] <txwikinger> apachelogger: http://www.red-dove.com/python_logging.html | |
| [15:08] <ScottK> Riddell: Just upgraded the kid's computer to KDE 3.5.10 with no problems. | |
| [15:13] <ScottK> a|wen: Mentioning the maintainer change in debian/changelog is not needed. It's actually actively discouraged these days. | |
| [15:16] <a|wen> ScottK: okay ... i just use the update-maintainer script from ubuntu-dev-tools, thinking that was current policy | |
| [15:16] <ScottK> a|wen: Grab the one from Intrepid. It won't do that. | |
| [15:16] <ScottK> Not a big deal. Just FYI. | |
| [15:18] <a|wen> ScottK: okay, it is a rather recent change ... i'll just delete the entries in the changelog from now on | |
| [15:50] <nixternal> ScottK: yes, seems like HAL may be missing, or it is making the wrong DBus call | |
| [15:51] <ScottK> nixternal: a|wen looked at it some more and he thinks it won't get there anymore if HAL is missing. If it's the wrong DBus call though ... | |
| [15:51] <ScottK> nixternal: Any idea what a right one would be? | |
| [15:52] <nixternal> I would have to take a look a little more which I can do | |
| [16:18] <nixternal> dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method"FindDeviceByCapability" with signature "s" on interface "org.freedesktoph.Hal.Manager" doesn't exist | |
| [16:18] <nixternal> looks like the problem is deeper | |
| [16:21] <nixternal> heh, I found out the problem...I can't type | |
| [16:21] <nixternal> but if I debug while up, it doesn't crash out | |
| [17:00] <Riddell> ScottK: yay | |
| [17:01] <Riddell> apachelogger: ubiquity outputs to /var/log/installer/something or /var/log/syslog | |
| [17:15] <claydoh> am I reading this right:http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-3.5.10-updates | |
| [17:15] <claydoh> 3.5.10 in Intrepid's | |
| [17:16] <Riddell> no in hardy | |
| [17:16] <claydoh> "The latest KDE 3 bug-fix release 3.5.10 has moved to the updates section of Kubuntu 8.10." | |
| [17:18] <claydoh> I am sure there are couple of mail list/forum posters who might get a bit excited over that :) | |
| [17:18] <Riddell> claydoh: fixed | |
| [17:19] <Riddell> yes, they might get the wrong message | |
| [17:19] <claydoh> :) | |
| [17:19] <Riddell> claydoh: did you see the meeting yesterday? | |
| [17:19] <claydoh> I am catching up on that now :) | |
| [17:19] <claydoh> from logs | |
| [17:20] * claydoh apoolgizes for having to work :) it always gets in my way | |
| [17:23] <claydoh> I am making a list of questions/concerns I have picked up | |
| [17:23] <claydoh> but very little yet on upgrade issues as not many have done that yet | |
| [17:24] <claydoh> I haven't yet as my hardy box is still dead | |
| [17:28] <jussio1> *cry* my upgraded system has pretty much died... wonder what I did wrong... | |
| [17:29] <Tm_T> awww | |
| [17:29] <jussio1> Tm_T: most programs dont start, Im lucky to have konsole | |
| [17:31] <Tm_T> ouch | |
| [17:31] <Tm_T> jussio1: well I'm in between of trunk and 4.1.2 so some stuff isn't working right | |
| [17:35] <jussi01> Tm_T: I figured out what it was. soon as I installed gtk-qt-engine, everything went beserk. | |
| [17:37] <Tm_T> ouch | |
| [17:56] <apachelogger> hm | |
| [17:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: The KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges. | |
| [17:56] <apachelogger> could that be the problem? | |
| [17:56] <apachelogger> it's quitting right after that :S | |
| [18:14] <apachelogger> interesting enough that nothing in usr/*/ubiquity got a +s | |
| [18:21] <apachelogger> the good news is, adding and removing xchat actually works on kubuntu :D | |
| [18:26] <Riddell> apachelogger: huh? we have lots of apps that run as root | |
| [18:27] <Riddell> it works in mandriva too for me | |
| [18:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: that output is uber strange, according to my research a normal user couldn't start an app if it got +s | |
| [18:27] <apachelogger> works as sudo | |
| [18:28] <apachelogger> thing is, I even start ubiquity from a root prompt | |
| [18:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: according to strace it exists right after it writes that suid warning | |
| [18:32] <apachelogger> open("/root/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) | |
| [18:32] <apachelogger> Oo | |
| [18:33] <apachelogger> seriously | |
| [18:34] <apachelogger> something is very very very very very wrong here | |
| [18:35] <apachelogger> I just -R 777'ed .kde | |
| [18:35] <apachelogger> still permission denied | |
| [19:09] <yuriy> apachelogger: don't know what the conversation is about, but is selinux or similar (apparmor?) enabled? that can cause weird permissions problems | |
| [21:57] <Riddell> anyone tried the new language packs? | |
| [22:02] <smarter> Riddell: they should fix the missing i18ns? | |
| [22:07] <Riddell> smarter: hope so | |
| [22:07] <smarter> cool :) | |
| [22:07] <smarter> I'll test tomorrow and report back here the results | |
| [22:08] <smarter> the French team have achieved 100% localized strings, so it should be easily noticable :) | |
| [22:26] <txwikinger> KDE needs some better documentation! | |
| [22:27] <Riddell> txwikinger: I'm sure the docs team would glady accept your help :) | |
| [22:27] <txwikinger> I was asking for that, right? | |
| [22:28] <txwikinger> Well.. if I figure it out, I will document it :D | |
| [22:28] <Riddell> nixternal: a volunteer for you! | |
| === claydoh__ is now known as claydoh | |
| [22:46] <a|wen> Riddell: yay ... the new lang-packs has a lot more danish translations in kde :) | |
| [22:48] <Riddell> phew | |
| [22:50] <a|wen> we were getting awfully close to release | |
| [22:54] * a|wen wonders why it is so hard getting the right things to crash once the -dbg package is installed | |
| [22:54] <txwikinger> I had hoped KDE4 would survive my stress tests better than KDE3.. so far I do not see a difference | |
| [22:55] <txwikinger> Re-login took 25 mins with load of >100 | |
| [22:56] <txwikinger> I think my expectations are too high | |
| [23:07] <txwikinger> apachelogger: I have a nice bug for you Bug #285668 :D | |
| [23:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 285668 in kdebase "[intrepid] In konqueror rendered often appears in status line and scroll bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285668 | |